< 1745891993 110153 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: so I don't know if you know this already, but the Factorio expansion Space Age has added items that rot in time, and it's only today that I realized that this is similar to corpses and lit light sources in nethack. Factorio already had partly used items, namely ammo (10 shots per cartridge), repair packs, and science packs, but those don't get more used from just sitting somewhere. And both < 1745891999 145194 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :partly used and spoilable items can stack when they enter an inventory slot, and their use percentage or age gets averaged out. < 1745892045 175459 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well no, that was incorrect < 1745892132 890461 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so for partly used items, the partly use gets treated as kind of a fractional worth item, so when you merge two partly used cartridges they can merge either two one partly used, or one full plus one partly used, depending on if the remaining amount of shots is more than what fits in an item. that's also how repair packs and I think science packs work. it's partly damaged items (which you get from < 1745892138 877941 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :deconstructing a damaged building) and the new rotting items where the damage and/or age gets averaged when they stack in an inventory slot. < 1745892241 606959 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also partly used fuel items don't exist: the building or vehicle that burns the fuel remembers the type of fuel it's burning and how much of the single fuel item is already used up, but that partly used item can't be extracted in any way, it's just a status of the building or vehicle. < 1745892328 759970 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sort of like partly crafted items don't exist, the crafter tracks how much time it already spent on crafting the recipe, but it only consumes the ingredients and creates the resulting item(s) when it's done a full crafting cycle, before that if you interrupt the crafting by deconstructing the building it's as if none of the crafting cycle was done (except for fuel or electricity consumed) < 1745892473 16043 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's kind of odd that labs consuming science packs work differently so partly consumed science packs exist, you'd think that's only just the lab building remembering numbers, but no. < 1745892607 536658 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know what the advantage of science packs working this way is, maybe it's just kept for compatibility because it would be strange to change it now, maybe they don't want to annoy players at the very early game when science packs are still precious and they're likely to move their very few labs < 1745892641 766448 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the ammo cartridges make more sense because you do often want to move turrets with partly consumed ammo < 1745892689 953226 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the partly used repair packs make sense too < 1745892712 420236 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though even those could have been done differently < 1745893895 454409 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1745894050 522040 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1745901198 677047 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitforth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156860&oldid=156830 5* 03Pericles 5* (-21) 10 > 1745901318 853263 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitforth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156861&oldid=156860 5* 03Pericles 5* (+4) 10 > 1745901566 713365 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitforth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156862&oldid=156861 5* 03Pericles 5* (+3) 10/* Queue Implementation */ > 1745901682 204977 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03I am islptng 5* 10moved [[02User:I am islptng/Draft for Esolang10]] to [[User:I am islptng/Draft]] > 1745901749 250671 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:I am islptng/Draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156865&oldid=156863 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+1397) 10 > 1745901792 488656 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitforth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156866&oldid=156862 5* 03Pericles 5* (+18) 10 < 1745903447 182072 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1745903491 431271 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 JOIN #esolangs GregorR :Gregor Richards > 1745905162 951239 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156867&oldid=155957 5* 03None1 5* (+358) 10 < 1745906148 137056 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1745906378 226090 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit > 1745908047 128367 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitforth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156868&oldid=156866 5* 03Pericles 5* (+82) 10 > 1745908098 921240 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitforth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156869&oldid=156868 5* 03Pericles 5* (+5) 10 < 1745911307 26825 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1745911356 851932 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1745911388 779997 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1745912128 287789 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:JIT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156870&oldid=156525 5* 03JIT 5* (+66) 10 > 1745912155 569068 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156871&oldid=156652 5* 03None1 5* (+153) 10 > 1745912345 626275 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156872&oldid=156871 5* 03None1 5* (+172) 10Sorry! > 1745912822 972886 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BrainWrite14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156873&oldid=154344 5* 03JIT 5* (+8) 10 > 1745914196 573130 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:I am islptng/Draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156874&oldid=156865 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+708) 10 > 1745915085 109421 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:I am islptng/Draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156875&oldid=156874 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+814) 10 < 1745919617 449809 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia JOIN #esolangs amadaluzia :Artur Manuel > 1745920202 721855 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:I am islptng/Draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156876&oldid=156875 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+147) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1745922078 956698 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1745922215 375467 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1745926957 207409 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1745927211 881572 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi < 1745927575 59985 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1745927645 858956 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a stupid esoteric idea. Round-robin tournament. Players are ranked by score which is just the sum of the outcome of their matches, highest score gets gold medal. You need a tie-breaker. < 1745927649 901202 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I propose the following tie-breaker. Consider every order of the players that's consistent with higher score players coming before lower score players. < 1745927653 401118 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :For each order, take the matrix of match outcomes, with rows and columns listing the players in that order. The ranking of players is the one where this matrix is the largest possible in lexicographical ordering. < 1745927656 887407 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The reason why this is fun is that determining the ranking is as hard as solving the graph isomorphism problem. < 1745927660 266421 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :For any reasonably sized tournament, this will be easy in practice. But in theory we don't know a polynomial time algorithm to find the ranking if somehow an insane number of contestants sign up for the open tournament and manage to get match outcomes with very unfortunate symmetries. < 1745928935 108644 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1745929877 103166 :lisbeths!uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs lisbeths :lisbeths < 1745930951 879118 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :This tie-breaker is good because it has maximal ability among tie-breakers to break ties: if there's any way to distinguish players based on their match results (as opposed to eg. previous results from before this tournament) then this tie-breaker will give an unambiguous ranking between them. < 1745931570 796715 :Guest98!~Guest98@n175-32-209-194.mas22.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest98 < 1745932726 382612 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1745936071 1503 :Guest98!~Guest98@n175-32-209-194.mas22.nsw.optusnet.com.au PART :#esolangs < 1745937339 872684 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1745939427 118791 :lisbeths!uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1745943831 279227 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1745944298 229419 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Aadenboy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156877&oldid=156543 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+112) 10/* anything else */ brainfuck derivative counter < 1745945870 482281 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1745947024 365036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~ATH14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156878&oldid=130563 5* 03Krolkrol 5* (-2) 10 > 1745947061 534838 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~ATH14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156879&oldid=156878 5* 03Krolkrol 5* (+2) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/156878|156878]] by [[Special:Contributions/Krolkrol|Krolkrol]] ([[User talk:Krolkrol|talk]]) > 1745947066 253495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mlatu14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=156880 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+7453) 10Create page > 1745947207 107397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Stkptr14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156881&oldid=156709 5* 03Stkptr 5* (-49) 10 < 1745947294 306367 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1745947448 509563 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Stkptr14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156882&oldid=156881 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+42) 10 > 1745947494 481450 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Corbin14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=156883 5* 03Krolkrol 5* (+140) 10Created page with "Hello, can you please tell me what the implementation of language [[1_Billion_Row_Challenge]] is supposed to be linking to [[User:Krolkrol]]" > 1745947518 651979 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Corbin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156884&oldid=156883 5* 03Krolkrol 5* (+3) 10 > 1745947530 100967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PolishScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156885&oldid=155337 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+33) 10 > 1745947564 730899 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Corbin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156886&oldid=156884 5* 03Krolkrol 5* (+10) 10 > 1745947811 891370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07;;;14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156887&oldid=155349 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+79) 10This language is likely Turing complete < 1745947881 471488 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1745948315 591804 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071 Billion Row Challenge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156888&oldid=144272 5* 03Corbin 5* (+31) 10Update links. The community leaderboard appears to be offline. < 1745948363 36834 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1745948466 198855 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Corbin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156889&oldid=156886 5* 03Corbin 5* (+491) 10 > 1745948578 121381 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156890&oldid=105499 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+569) 10It's Turing complete > 1745949310 827855 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mlatu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156891&oldid=156880 5* 03Corbin 5* (+430) 10Properly bluelink our friends at catlangwiki, and also explain where the name comes from. .i u'i coi pendo .i xu do tavla? (Lojban's baseline is public domain, so quoting it is not a problem.) > 1745949739 113011 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(())14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156892&oldid=147214 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+149) 10 > 1745950580 738825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mlatu14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156893&oldid=156891 5* 03Stkptr 5* (-2) 10Head spacing > 1745951367 873207 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mlatu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156894&oldid=156893 5* 03Stkptr 5* (-101) 10Fix history, make the Lojban fact a reference to focus more on the programming language > 1745952077 850924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beetle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156895&oldid=120078 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+1271) 10Turing complete > 1745952187 311120 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beetle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156896&oldid=156895 5* 03Stkptr 5* (-60) 10/* Computational class */ Simplify loop > 1745952594 120684 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SynDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156897&oldid=132537 5* 03Stkptr 5* (+32) 10It models CFGs > 1745953251 15533 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Forthrooms14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=156898 5* 03TenBillionPlusOne 5* (+1360) 10Work in progress < 1745953273 915149 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1745953338 111644 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname < 1745953904 67351 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1745954044 527845 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1745957277 904730 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Quit: Hi, this is Paul Allen. I'm being called away to London for a few days. Meredith, I'll call you when I get back. Hasta la vista, baby. < 1745957404 398474 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :cu > 1745957515 991269 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156899&oldid=156850 5* 03Buckets 5* (+12) 10 > 1745957542 328518 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Buckets14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156900&oldid=156851 5* 03Buckets 5* (+11) 10 > 1745957557 678951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Guava14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=156901 5* 03Buckets 5* (+1018) 10Created page with "Guava is an Esoteric programming language created by [[User:Buckets]] in 2020 from A joke from a Dream: "Java? More like Guava". {| class="wikitable" |- ! Commands !! Instructions |- | > || Move right On the memory Access. |- | 'A' || Rewrite Current Memory to "A"(, As a < 1745961174 347448 :yewscion!~yewscion@2601:547:1400:1ab0:b3d9:e178:7811:ae04 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1745961847 150252 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Forthrooms14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156902&oldid=156898 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+1) 10fix bracket > 1745962459 917794 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iterate14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156903&oldid=154086 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+84) 10/* Completeness */ is Iterate Turing complete without the $# command? < 1745963345 284038 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:81f6:6a75:5fad:c9b4 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1745964458 778066 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1745965618 60732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Horse14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156904&oldid=156797 5* 03RainbowDash 5* (-8) 10/* Turing Completeness */ > 1745965959 231695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Horse/Implementations14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156905&oldid=156742 5* 03RainbowDash 5* (-1478) 10Printing > 1745966018 996438 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Horse14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156906&oldid=156904 5* 03RainbowDash 5* (+58) 10/* Available Commands */ > 1745967949 101814 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07META II14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=156907&oldid=156567 5* 03Corbin 5* (+35) 10Long 2015 says that Schorre actually developed META II in 1962, two years before the 1964 paper came out, and gives some supporting timeline. Sounds plausible to me; Long 2015 was written in 2014, after all! < 1745968111 320238 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :Quit: ... < 1745969158 906366 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe QUIT :Quit: zzzz <3 < 1745969305 115201 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe JOIN #esolangs Lymia :Lymia Aluysia