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00:09:15 <esolangs> [[Category:Sus]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157465 * Helpeesl * (+184) This is a reupload of a category that someone else made and was conspicuously missing from its place
00:14:39 <esolangs> [[Category:Counter-based]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157466 * Helpeesl * (+139) Created page with "This is a list containing all counter based languages Also [[User:ais523]] suggested this so if the delete this that is a little bit ironic"
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00:36:30 <korvo> ais523: Regarding class layouts: yes, if the class were still around at runtime then a checked mode is possible. RPython runs on a standard Python 2.7 interpreter for that purpose.
00:37:27 <korvo> As one might suspect, nearly all of the class is erased at runtime. The class name .__class__.__name__ is the only thing available and that's mostly for generic pretty-printing.
00:38:09 <esolangs> [[User talk:Helpeesl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157472&oldid=157461 * Ais523 * (+423) /* Please stop creating categories without approval */ you continued creating categories even though I asked you to stop
00:39:10 <ais523> hmm, that may mean that Python erases classes more thoroughly than Java or Perl do
00:39:35 <esolangs> [[User talk:I am islptng]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157473&oldid=157390 * Hotcrystal0 * (+296)
00:40:17 <korvo> I usually think of RPython classes as like Haskell typeclasses, Rust traits, or C++ multiple-inheritance classes. RPython throws away any information that isn't relevant to the shape of the vtables.
00:40:20 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Counter-based]]": although this category should likely exist, this category description page is not useful it doesn't precisely define which languages belong in the category and contains metacommentary and leaving the description page up encourages people to categorise languages into it potentiall
00:41:29 <ais523> korvo: ah, right – Java and Perl have a layer of indirection in which the object has a reference to the class and the class has the vtable
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00:42:25 <korvo> Yeah. Whereas this is more like C++ casting. We can upcast so that an entire class hierarchy looks like a uniform algebraic data type, or we can downcast when we need to dig an instance variable out for a special case.
00:42:34 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Sus]]": still an unapproved category (with a bad name), recreated after deletion
00:43:01 <korvo> The object itself is a fat pointer, I think? So cool that I can just *say* that; twenty years ago, fat pointers would have been considered a horrendous waste.
00:43:15 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/protect]] protect * Ais523 * protected "[[Category:Sus [create=sysop] (indefinite)]]": recreated after being deleted, not an appropriate name for a category
00:44:16 <ais523> I still don't have a good intuitive feel for the performance of fat pointers versus having a pointer from object to class
00:44:44 <ais523> the pointer-from-object-to-class will usually save memory because most objects have more than one reference and few have less than one reference, but it also introduces an extra layer of indirection
00:44:51 <esolangs> [[User:PrySigneToFry/Silicon dioxide in a polypropylene box/Chess between HCr0 and PSTF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157475&oldid=157464 * Hotcrystal0 * (+22)
00:45:09 <esolangs> [[User:PrySigneToFry/Silicon dioxide in a polypropylene box/Chess between HCr0 and PSTF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157476&oldid=157475 * Hotcrystal0 * (+0)
00:46:05 <korvo> Yeah. Fat pointers might be more compelling if they offered some useful functionality. I find it very cool that we can change the class/traits of an object merely by replacing half of the fat pointer, and I know that Rust strings use this sort of optimization.
00:47:02 <korvo> But Smalltalk-style become: is really about the limit of what can be done that way. I think that it is a powerful way to have a system where objects are *inside* of another system which routes them; today there's Kafka and k8s, but I remember Zope and Twisted Axiom too.
00:49:22 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157477&oldid=157425 * PrySigneToFry * (-75) Qu'vatlh.
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00:56:23 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157479&oldid=157453 * Helpeesl * (+694) /* There are categories that exist but arent on here */ new section
00:59:00 <esolangs> [[UserEdited]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157480&oldid=156254 * PrySigneToFry * (+159)
01:06:37 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157481&oldid=157479 * Ais523 * (+573) /* There are categories that exist but arent on here */ how this happens
01:08:08 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157482&oldid=157477 * Aadenboy * (+75) hey could you not do that
01:10:05 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157483&oldid=157481 * Ais523 * (+859) /* Proposed Category:Interpreter-modifying */ I don't think this is worth a category yet, but it may be in the future
01:12:44 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157484&oldid=157483 * Ais523 * (+562) /* Counter-based languages */ some thoughts about definition
01:18:37 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157485&oldid=157484 * Helpeesl * (+74) /* There are categories that exist but arent on here */
01:22:11 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157486&oldid=157485 * Helpeesl * (+89) This is my first time leaving a comment
01:28:08 <esolangs> [[User talk:Helpeesl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157487&oldid=157472 * Ais523 * (+517) /* How to sign your comments */ new section
01:32:19 <esolangs> [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157488&oldid=157147 * Helpeesl * (+493) /* I have a question about the unnoticed categories */ new section
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01:39:12 <esolangs> [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157490&oldid=157488 * Ais523 * (+1444) /* I have a question about the unnoticed categories */ reply
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02:04:12 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy/Self-terminating powers]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157491 * Aadenboy * (+12754) interesting math thing I found
02:04:38 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Aadenboy * moved [[User:Aadenboy/Self-terminating powers]] to [[User:Aadenboy/Self-equaling squares]]: rename
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02:05:06 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157494&oldid=157428 * Aadenboy * (+41) /* anything else */ [[User:Aadenboy/Self-equaling powers]]
02:05:25 <esolangs> [[User:Aadenboy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157495&oldid=157494 * Aadenboy * (+1) /* anything else */
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02:55:01 <esolangs> [[Flow]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157497&oldid=157439 * Helpeesl * (+9)
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05:49:20 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157503&oldid=157502 * Ais523 * (-89) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/157502|157502]] by [[Special:Contributions/PrySigneToFry|PrySigneToFry]] ([[User talk:PrySigneToFry|talk]]) please don't restyle other peoples' user pages against their wishes
05:50:25 <esolangs> [[Echo Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157504&oldid=115682 * Ais523 * (+25) /* See also */ +[[Symmetric Echo Tag]]
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09:26:19 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy/Self-equaling squares]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157506 * PkmnQ * (+618) Created page with "Looking at things a bit closer, I think I can see a more specific pattern. The amount of self-equaling squares for a base seems to be <math>2^{\omega(n)}</math>, where <math>\omega(n)</math> is the number of unique prime factors <math>n</ma
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09:38:30 <esolangs> [[User:CreeperBomb/common.css]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157508 * CreeperBomb * (+6039) Created page with "/* WikimediaUI Dark Mode * * Wikimedia Design Team 2019-2021 * Original authors: * - Volker E. [[User:Volker_E._(WMF)]] * - Alex Hollender * - MusikAnimal * - Carolyn Li-Madeo * - Jdlrobson * * Original at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
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10:12:30 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Neon * uploaded "[[File:ASCII Table (suitable for printing).svg.png]]"
10:19:32 <esolangs> [[LargeFish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157514&oldid=157468 * TenBillionPlusOne * (-26) This lang is just variable-based.
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11:49:13 <esolangs> [[User talk:I am islptng]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157517&oldid=157499 * PrySigneToFry * (+627) /* */ new section
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17:17:56 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy/Self-equaling squares]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157524&oldid=157506 * Aadenboy * (+1342)
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17:34:03 <esolangs> [[User:TenBillionPlusOne]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157526&oldid=157523 * TenBillionPlusOne * (+28) /* Other stuff */
17:46:55 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157527&oldid=157498 * TenBillionPlusOne * (+525) /* Proposed Category:Interpreter-modifying */
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18:40:55 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy/Self-equaling squares]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157532&oldid=157524 * Aadenboy * (+366)
18:47:37 <esolangs> [[lang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157533&oldid=153622 * PlaceReporter99 * (+196) /* Lua Interpreter */
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19:19:48 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157535&oldid=157527 * Ais523 * (+1373) /* Proposed Category:Interpreter-modifying */ I think this would be more useful for readers as a list rather than as a category, and here's why
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