< 1747615297 593339 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement > 1747619058 379613 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:I am islptng/Silicon dioxide in a polypropylene box14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157987&oldid=157979 5* 03I am islptng 5* (-13) 10 < 1747619627 994622 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc9:5401:7c7a:13c0:eca4:c47b QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1747629918 929983 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia JOIN #esolangs amadaluzia :amadaluzia < 1747630526 76641 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1747630579 967349 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1747630609 669629 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1747631463 160490 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1747631486 879006 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron (they/them) < 1747631665 919901 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1747631751 461359 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron (they/them) > 1747632214 182522 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157988 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+14794) 10Added Timeline language, still working on it but I only saving progress. < 1747633365 873294 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1747634017 192583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157989&oldid=157988 5* 03Undalevein 5* (-273) 10Finished working on the Language Overview (for now) < 1747634025 881073 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1747634436 853332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157990&oldid=157989 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+530) 10Added example programs. > 1747634665 99962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157991&oldid=157990 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+10) 10Changed Unknown Usability to Unknown Computational Class > 1747634764 879522 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157992&oldid=157991 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+53) 10Changed quotations to  > 1747634817 705531 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157993&oldid=157992 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+0) 10Not being careful with typos, sorry. < 1747635650 984502 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1747636485 863872 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Undalevein14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157994 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+135) 10Added a small bio. < 1747639012 544668 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1747640071 907864 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1747644086 436150 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1747645092 819257 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157995&oldid=157480 5* 03H. H. P. M. P. Cole 5* (+863) 10 > 1747645930 759969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157996&oldid=157995 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+76) 10/* Commands */ < 1747646939 809940 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Moin < 1747648526 993460 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname > 1747650356 161442 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Semistack14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=157997 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+677) 10Created page with "Another [[SLet (Old 3)|Slet 3]] Derivative??? Interesting. --~~~~" < 1747652898 826208 :gry!~gry@chris-amadeus.bnr.la PRIVMSG #esolangs :APic: hi < 1747653414 863697 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yo gry < 1747653503 100919 :gry!~gry@chris-amadeus.bnr.la PRIVMSG #esolangs :APic: may i ask how are you < 1747653510 1845 :gry!~gry@chris-amadeus.bnr.la PRIVMSG #esolangs :what you doing here < 1747653514 402441 :gry!~gry@chris-amadeus.bnr.la PRIVMSG #esolangs :i am new < 1747653541 746668 :gry!~gry@chris-amadeus.bnr.la PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wanna figure out what you working on. i code in perl and a bit js < 1747653675 253011 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION just breakfasts a Butter-Brezn
< 1747653682 309497 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :No active Projects currently < 1747653889 119835 :gry!~gry@chris-amadeus.bnr.la PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm, what you special in? > 1747654305 734711 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157998&oldid=157993 5* 03Undalevein 5* (-2) 10Changed the Hello, World program to work in the latest update. > 1747654362 187064 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=157999&oldid=157998 5* 03Undalevein 5* (-11) 10Fixed weird grammar/contextual issue. < 1747654362 976115 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION can code in C, C++, x86/x64/ARM-Assembly, Perl, Python, Java and JavaScript
< 1747654373 871044 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :And some BrainFuck < 1747654761 43762 :gry!~gry@chris-amadeus.bnr.la CHGHOST ~gry :botters/gry < 1747654869 796908 :gry!~gry@botters/gry PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm < 1747654889 63741 :gry!~gry@botters/gry PRIVMSG #esolangs :do you know of some platfirm for byte sized content < 1747654893 299445 :gry!~gry@botters/gry PRIVMSG #esolangs :like duolingo < 1747654904 700702 :gry!~gry@botters/gry PRIVMSG #esolangs :but where i can add my own "course" < 1747655672 98775 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1747656145 183758 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nope, sorry < 1747657179 208252 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas > 1747659137 438673 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158000&oldid=157895 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+479) 10 > 1747659186 414298 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158001&oldid=158000 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-163) 10 < 1747659637 221508 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc9:5401:7c7a:13c0:eca4:c47b JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic > 1747659763 293161 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158002&oldid=157996 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+0) 10 < 1747659774 83021 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1747660579 714387 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's something I don't understand about inter-thread mutex interfaces. so we have all these multithreading library interfaces, including Posix threads, C++11 threads, C11 threads, rust std::sync. < 1747660584 654307 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they each have their own mutex and once_flag implementations that are incompatible with other libraries but have similar semantics for inter-thread synchronization. what I find weird is how the mutex and once_flag are created and destroyed. < 1747660589 707968 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the linux implementation of posix threads has the easiest to use interface. both mutexes and once_flags are just pure memory, they can be initialized by a C constant initializer, and you can just forget about either of them without calling a destructor without leaking any resuorce. < 1747660593 891664 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this makes sense, because you can effectively implement these with an atomic flag and a linked list of nodes that the waiters allocate on the stack. < 1747660598 303582 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the contented case, the waiter blocks a signal, atomically pushes itself to the wake-up list by adding its thread-id, verifies that the lock flag is still set, then sigwaits for the signal, then atomically checks-and-sets the flag, then atomically pops himself from the wake-up list. < 1747660623 801606 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :when the thread that was holding the mutex unlocks, it atomically clears the flag then pthread_kills the first thread in the wake-up list. < 1747660627 777301 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something like that, maybe I got the sequence a bit wrong here. < 1747660631 15736 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the C11, C++, Rust interfaces are a bit less general: they all give you a constructor and destructor function for mutexes, so a mutex can hold resources like operating system handles. this makes sense, they want to be general so they can be implemented on any system. < 1747660634 826538 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the posix threads interface as POSIX defines it also gives you a constructor and destructor function. but it also says that instead of calling the constructor, you can just use a static initializer. < 1747660657 312476 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :further, https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/pthread_mutex_destroy.3p.html has the weird statement "Attempting to initialize an already initialized mutex results in undefined behavior". < 1747660660 826540 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what kind of implementation would ever need such a strong guarantee that you aren't allowed to leak a mutex and overwrite the memory containing the structure even if you promise never to use it again? < 1747660664 107323 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the weirdest part is the once_flag. neither the posix threads pthread_once_t and C11 once_flag type have no destructors, and both can be statically initialized. < 1747660667 306701 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the weirdest part is the once_flag. neither the posix threads pthread_once_t and C11 once_flag type have no destructors, and both can be statically initialized. < 1747660670 963821 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :how come mutexes can leak resources if you don't destroy them, but once_flag can somehow be implemented such that it doesn't hold any resources? < 1747660877 182811 :ajal!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1747660980 671536 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1747661029 938507 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1747661277 489200 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1747661536 831120 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:I am islptng14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158003&oldid=157674 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+89) 10/* uhhhhhhhhhhhhh */ new section < 1747663088 432158 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was thinking of this mostly for < 1747663312 83549 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the context of a memory tracker that tries to run your program in a slower way where it tracks every memory allocation and free that you do and tries to find where you dereference a stray pointer or where you are accessing a library type that is supposed to be opaque in a way that the library interface doesn't expose for it. if you have a type < 1747663312 583217 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like the linux pthreads interface's mutex which normally doesn't need a destructor because it doesn't hold anything outside the structure, but the safety checked version does need to be destroyed or else it leaks resources, that can be annoying. < 1747663766 515841 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for a type that does have a destructor, there's no problem: if the debugged program leaks one without calling the destructor, it would already leak at least memory, so it's fine if the safety checker leaks more resources to track it. > 1747664343 61033 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158004&oldid=158001 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-316) 10 < 1747665054 216252 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc9:5401:7c7a:13c0:eca4:c47b QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1747665198 105287 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited/Versions14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158005&oldid=156250 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+46) 10 < 1747665557 454253 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1747666170 254671 :impomatic!~impomatic@host109-153-26-231.range109-153.btcentralplus.com JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1747666694 65101 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1747667356 903795 :impomatic!~impomatic@host109-153-26-231.range109-153.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1747667847 210243 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1747668230 218895 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc9:5401:7c7a:13c0:eca4:c47b JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1747669096 577034 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Windows 11 file explorer claims that the size of a file is "1,01,903 KB", and if I open the properties popup then it says that the file size is more precisely "99.5 MB (10,43,47,972 bytes)". Is this a normal way to place commas in some locales, or is there something weird going on here? < 1747669721 238983 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it looks like it is a thing in some locales. but I hadn't realized that this computer was set up that way. < 1747670182 188842 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> (104347872 / 2^10, 104347872 / 2^20) -- rounded up, rounded down? < 1747670183 433649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : (101902.21875,99.51388549804688) < 1747670196 929205 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: that looks quite atrocious < 1747670270 1688 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had thought the digit grouping separators were always at multiples of some distance (usually 3 or 4) away from the decimal point. but apparently computer people find the weirdest format that is ever used in real life and build it into the locale and timezones systems. < 1747670780 146358 :ajal!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1747671111 322672 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1747671796 806972 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname < 1747672804 256256 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's the "Indian style", isn't it? < 1747672860 173885 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: apparently < 1747673016 350602 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Makes the commas match with the local languages having words for 100,000 and 10,000,000 (and apparently higher quantities with more factors of 10² too). > 1747673759 580691 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158006&oldid=157999 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+26) 10Fixed contextual issues and changed the symbol order > 1747673792 594525 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158007&oldid=158006 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+5) 10Fixed bio link < 1747674665 153869 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1747674689 737423 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1747675366 290359 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fun to see g++ outperform clang++ by a factor of 3 (on a particular tight number-crunching loop). < 1747675525 250302 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1747678072 194471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :woah something has gone seriously wrong with clang's register allocation in this case: https://paste.rs/ca13U.txt (top: clang++, bottom: g++ ...this is the hot part of the code though that may not be obvious to the compiler) < 1747678195 817471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm hmm. I guess one thing that makes this code bigger and increases register pressure is that it unrolled the loop. < 1747678271 747469 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe? < 1747678530 447428 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, I don't think so. GCC just did better strength reduction, so one of the multiplication is now an addition (leaq). < 1747678713 899801 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, no, not the leaq; it's the addq %rbp, %r8. Sorry for the monolog, will move on now :-) > 1747679042 272394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TenBillionPlusOne/Draft14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158008&oldid=157986 5* 03TenBillionPlusOne 5* (+52) 10 > 1747679494 355794 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TenBillionPlusOne/Draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158009&oldid=158008 5* 03TenBillionPlusOne 5* (+400) 10 < 1747679659 61261 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, if I do that transformation manually, clang++ and g++ produce code of virtually equal speed. < 1747679731 717559 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1747680043 143879 :molson!~molson@2001:48f8:7040::1593 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1747680117 378569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TenBillionPlusOne/Draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158010&oldid=158009 5* 03TenBillionPlusOne 5* (+634) 10 > 1747680678 116661 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TenBillionPlusOne/Draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158011&oldid=158010 5* 03TenBillionPlusOne 5* (+434) 10/* Expressions */ < 1747680705 110518 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If making a better programming language than C, I think that I would avoid the confusing syntax for types that C has, I would avoid Unicode, I would avoid using "0" alone as the prefix for octal numbers ("0o" would be better), I would avoid confusions with the syntax such as "/*" for comments even though "/" followed by "*" would be meaningful, and I would avoid some of the more modern stuff in other programming languages that I think < 1747680761 600264 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, I would also think to add things, such as customizing the linking in a more elaborate way, which is something that C doesn't do and I think most others also don't do. Being able to specify that a variable has the same address as another variable also can sometimes be useful. < 1747680795 945555 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if an esoteric programming language has two variants and one of them is a wimpmode then what would you call the other? > 1747680930 242639 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TenBillionPlusOne/Draft14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158012&oldid=158011 5* 03TenBillionPlusOne 5* (+66) 10/* Expressions */ < 1747680985 295069 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe you will call it "not-wimpmode", but maybe there will be a better name < 1747681028 12635 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hrm. I think I messed up that speed test. clang++ is still slow on this code. It did get rid of the extra imul though. < 1747681106 220389 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: maybe you'd like Rust ;-) < 1747681187 825652 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rust uses Unicode and I think also does not have a "goto" command like C (someone told me that the goto command in Rust is only usable for case blocks; C doesn't have this and I think it would be useful to have both uses of goto) < 1747681217 787135 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, you wanted something better than C ;-) < 1747681295 541099 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do think Rust's type syntax is pretty neat. Except maybe for function types. < 1747681325 85695 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In my opinion, most of the programming languages that they try to make better than C have various problems (and some of the things they add into new versions of C are also not so good, although some (such as the #embed command) are good) < 1747681336 262854 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :OTOH, Go's type syntax looks terrible. < 1747681347 772255 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :C's may be objectively bad but I'm used to it. ;-) < 1747681383 146287 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc9:5401:7c7a:13c0:eca4:c47b QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1747681922 837442 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1747682332 415933 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158013&oldid=158007 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+63) 10Added Truth Machine Example > 1747682355 755176 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158014&oldid=158013 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+2) 10Fixed header type < 1747682461 998644 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1747682510 263406 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc9:5401:7c7a:13c0:eca4:c47b JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic > 1747682520 768746 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158015&oldid=158014 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+2) 10Header revisions < 1747682939 193958 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc9:5401:7c7a:13c0:eca4:c47b QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1747684496 628366 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hey, what's wrong with Go's types? < 1747684504 750996 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I guess I might just have gotten used to them.) < 1747684734 392894 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I'm also used to C's type syntax so I try to write f32[8] instead of [f32;8] for the array type in rust. the actual rust syntax just isn't in my finger yet. < 1747685598 931408 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1747685798 100997 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org JOIN #esolangs * :Ae < 1747685905 340027 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I made up a ASN1_IDENTIFIED_DATA type but I don't know if that is really a good name or if a better name should be used instead. One use of this type is to identify the format and meaning of a DER file if used at top level (although it can also be used in other levels), but has other uses too. < 1747685968 48108 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It starts with a set of object identifiers, object descriptors, and/or sequences that start with a object identifier, and these identify the format (if there is more than one, any one of them (other than object descriptors) can be used; this way, a subset or special case of a file format can be identified). The second item is any value of any type. < 1747686065 855015 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(There is also an optional third item.) < 1747686078 65240 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you think there should be a different better name for such a thing? > 1747686929 818898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158016&oldid=157315 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+27) 10Added Vyxal Example > 1747688220 602345 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158017 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+331) 10Created page with "User programmed is an esolang experiment created on May 19th 2025 by [[user:helpeesl]] where you give this page a program and what it does, and Ill try to make a working esolang that does all programs correctly. == Programs == == What I think the commands are = > 1747688286 130230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ShiftEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158018&oldid=157935 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+73) 10new feature > 1747688318 768633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ShiftEso14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158019&oldid=158018 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+0) 10needs to be there > 1747688674 124372 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:I am islptng14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158020&oldid=158003 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+173) 10/* uhhhhhhhhhhhhh */ > 1747688867 663887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Postrado14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158021&oldid=154467 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-20) 10/* With functions */ > 1747689082 942300 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:I am islptng14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158022&oldid=158020 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+411) 10/* uhhhhhhhhhhhhh */ < 1747689442 667069 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:e83d:1e4b:bd0c:14ee QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1747690159 525922 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158023&oldid=158017 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+334) 10 > 1747690180 825234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "xxx" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158024&oldid=156111 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-163) 10/* See also */ > 1747690190 642368 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158025&oldid=158023 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+20) 10 > 1747690216 121426 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158026&oldid=155010 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10/* Stuff to continue */ > 1747690249 487193 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158027&oldid=158025 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-63) 10 > 1747690333 309761 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:User programmed14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158028 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+298) 10Created page with "This first program should be an easy one to guess. ~~~~" > 1747690348 650715 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158029&oldid=157693 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+213) 10/* Movie */ > 1747690449 270681 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ShiftEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158030&oldid=158019 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+98) 10 > 1747690473 632991 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158031&oldid=158027 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+140) 10 > 1747690566 334052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158032&oldid=158031 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+89) 10 > 1747690575 693062 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158033&oldid=158032 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+248) 10 > 1747690609 86896 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158034&oldid=158033 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+16) 10 > 1747690647 970620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158035&oldid=158034 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+67) 10 > 1747690723 758888 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:Wip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158036&oldid=140647 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-3) 10Redirected page to [[Template:WIP]] > 1747690758 651202 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158037&oldid=158035 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+114) 10 > 1747690772 477223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158038&oldid=158037 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+0) 10 > 1747691237 774 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158039&oldid=158038 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+69) 10 > 1747691578 995708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158040&oldid=158039 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+100) 10 > 1747691671 255275 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158041&oldid=158040 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-303) 10 > 1747691793 291768 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158042&oldid=158041 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+6) 10 > 1747691814 853292 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158043&oldid=158042 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-1) 10 > 1747691823 962442 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158044&oldid=158043 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+7) 10 > 1747691965 58293 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158045&oldid=158044 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+199) 10 > 1747692052 743605 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158046&oldid=158045 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+73) 10 > 1747692067 160396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158047&oldid=158046 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-2) 10 > 1747692134 255696 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158048&oldid=158047 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+41) 10 > 1747692170 448467 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158049&oldid=158048 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+110) 10 > 1747692213 458510 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158050&oldid=158049 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+29) 10 > 1747692506 630677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158051&oldid=158050 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+58) 10 > 1747692743 667881 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158052&oldid=158051 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+143) 10/* 8th (alright Im probably not going to end anytime soon) */ error found > 1747692777 846209 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158053&oldid=158052 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+5) 10 > 1747692905 744124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158054&oldid=158053 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+274) 10 > 1747692926 856240 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158055&oldid=158054 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+20) 10 > 1747692943 127578 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158056&oldid=158055 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-20) 10 > 1747693039 574072 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158057&oldid=158056 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-1) 10 > 1747693317 254472 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158058&oldid=158057 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (-32) 10 > 1747693536 989274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158059&oldid=158058 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+8) 10 > 1747693798 736636 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158060&oldid=158059 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+182) 10 > 1747694119 780907 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158061&oldid=158060 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+40) 10 > 1747694268 773414 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158062&oldid=158061 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+12) 10 > 1747694356 248980 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158063&oldid=158062 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+122) 10 > 1747695093 136192 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158064&oldid=157976 5* 03Buckets 5* (+12) 10 > 1747695128 805789 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Buckets14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158065&oldid=157952 5* 03Buckets 5* (+11) 10 > 1747695158 450366 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158066&oldid=158063 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+374) 10 > 1747695203 630898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nymal14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158067 5* 03Buckets 5* (+3149) 10Created page with "Nymal is an Esoteric programming language created by [[User:Buckets]] in 2022. {| class="wikitable" |- ! Commands !! Instructions |- | #"" || Push number to The top Stack. |- | "" || Push String to The top Stack. |- | < || Push Input to The top Stack as a String. |- | > > 1747695245 460312 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nymal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158068&oldid=158067 5* 03Buckets 5* (+17) 10 < 1747695793 917843 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1747696693 876739 :molson!~molson@2001-48F8-7040-0-0-0-0-1593-dynamic.midco.net JOIN #esolangs molson :realname > 1747696939 688356 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158069&oldid=158066 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+138) 10Reorganizing the commands part + 15-17 > 1747696969 863306 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158070&oldid=158069 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+3) 10 > 1747697045 408742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158071&oldid=158004 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+184) 10 > 1747697084 457256 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User Programmed14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158072 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+29) 10Redirected page to [[User programmed]] < 1747697588 810315 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement > 1747697755 547156 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158073&oldid=158070 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+212) 10 > 1747698606 203801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158074&oldid=158073 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+175) 10 > 1747698664 9329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158075&oldid=158074 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-133) 10 > 1747698678 531783 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158076&oldid=158075 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+1) 10 > 1747698972 994634 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158077&oldid=158076 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+107) 10 > 1747699090 847456 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158078&oldid=158077 5* 03Helpeesl 5* (+184) 10 > 1747699169 317105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158079&oldid=158016 5* 03Undalevein 5* (+90) 10Added a more golfed version for the Python Code (I just had to)