> 1748131456 722574 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Silicon dioxide in a polypropylene box/Chess between HCr0 and PSTF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158448&oldid=158413 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+24) 10
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> 1748137003 937958 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158449&oldid=151807 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+48) 10
> 1748137145 912194 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158450&oldid=158394 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+270) 10My attempt is to make this language Turing-complete so I linked this language with Python.
> 1748137364 855393 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User programmed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158451&oldid=158450 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+118) 10
< 1748137373 981791 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :cu
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> 1748137677 684211 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nya~*kwrgsfish+-HQ9`:'"rbtAzxdi814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158453&oldid=158260 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+101) 10
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> 1748138511 791348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CopperTones 5*  10New user account
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> 1748139307 574824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158454&oldid=158312 5* 03CopperTones 5* (+384) 10Hello World!
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< 1748140405 250635 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought to make up a HOST command in IRC and NNTP, which is like the "Host:" header of HTTP. (I don't know if they already have something like that.)
< 1748140445 56950 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :IRC does not.
< 1748140447 10991 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The HOST command is not allowed to be used with an encrypted connection, and in the case of IRC it must be sent before any other commands (including USER).
< 1748140475 282108 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :To create multiple logical IRC servers with a single ircd?
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< 1748140546 149247 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In the case of NNTP, the response from the server if it is used successfully allows the same responses that the server will respond to the initial connection (but does not have to be the same response; it is the same set of responses that is allowed), and all of the state of the protocol is reset.
< 1748140646 564044 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Creating multiple logical IRC servers with a single ircd is one use, although there are other uses as well, such as if multiple users want to run a server on the same computer (with different settings and maybe even a different implementation), or for a forwarding service that forwards version 4 to version 6 internet or from internet to one of my computers in LAN, etc.
< 1748140828 838022 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Virtual hosting is useful for many reasons like that. Some protocols already support it (TLS, HTTP, Gemini, Scorpion) and some don't (SSH, Gopher). In some cases, even if it is not already have it, it could be added, such as in this case of IRC and NNTP.
> 1748140956 642451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Deadfish++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158455&oldid=124318 5* 03CopperTones 5* (+684) 10mi toki
> 1748141045 763929 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CopperTones14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158456 5* 03CopperTones 5* (+34) 10Created page with "hi, poke me so i make this or smth"
< 1748141077 781105 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mhm
< 1748141095 285098 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :It does also add significant complexity though.
< 1748141133 212446 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Re multiple separate ircds on the same IP, is there a way to pass a socket to another process, or would you have to proxy?
< 1748141202 629964 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Proxying would be annoying because you would then also have to pass the true client IP through to the ircd.
< 1748141332 715636 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you can pass a socket to another process. Also, servers that have no use for virtual hosting would not be required to implement it, anyways.
< 1748141757 748533 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there C library for cryptography with one .c file and one .h file?
< 1748141868 477457 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :That'd mean users can't just run whatever ircd they want in that multiuser system use case though. :-/
< 1748141905 745254 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess socket handoff would have to be implemented in the backend ircd as well though.
< 1748142079 359558 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it could support whatever ircd they want if it is handled properly; there are a few considerations but I think they can be handled.
< 1748142219 586501 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you don't care about accurate user hosts, I suppose you could just proxy and append the real IP to the gecos or similar. That'd still allow for IP-based bans on some ircds (ones that have a gecos-based extban). It'd be a bit ugly though.
< 1748142222 375001 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(In some cases, it might be possible by modifying the software and that might not be too difficult, although modifying the system to support it is another way.)
< 1748142337 246439 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, if it is necessary then you could implement something like that, although if a ircd program is made to support this kind of proxying then it would already have some better way to do it, would be expected.
< 1748142401 764027 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well yeah, my idea would be to avoid having to change the ircd at all.
< 1748142439 16301 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suspect you can't easily fake a network connection's origin, but that might also be an option.
< 1748142509 283809 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some operating systems might allow it in some cases (I don't know if Linux does, or if anyone made up a kernel module or other way to do it if it normally doesn't)
< 1748142510 902167 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :In this setup, only the client and the proxy would need to support the virtual hosting. With TLS, you could even narrow that to just the proxy.
< 1748142573 532296 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like I mentioned TLS already has virtual hosting, so it is likely that a client that supports TLS also does.
< 1748142618 852187 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah right, you could just stick any reverse proxy in front of that.
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< 1748143999 273217 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: I think several languages use a global variable for returning from functions, e.g. the normal convention is for x86-64 asm to return values by storing them in %rax, and INTERCAL programs normally return values by storing them in the lowest-numbered variable of the correct type that wasn't used as an argument
< 1748144033 47986 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unlike other uses of global variables for parameter-passing, this one doesn't have any clashes or scoping problems, because the function you return to can immediately move the return value to a more permanent location
< 1748144073 402973 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(whereas if you pass arguments in global variables, if a function makes a function call, it loses access to its own arguments unless it spills them)
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> 1748145721 61617 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Funciton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158457&oldid=157816 5* 03Timwi 5* (+245) 10Rejiggle the functions to match the new structure of the library
> 1748147279 126052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Funciton14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158458&oldid=158457 5* 03Timwi 5* (-1) 10fix mistake in description of 
> 1748148832 217703 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MythLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158459 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2726) 10Created page with "MythLang is an Esolang designed by [[User:PrySigneToFry]].  As name shown, this language will be powerful as the myth recounts.  = Overview = MythLang is Turing-Complete, and it is "interpreted" language.  = Basic syntax = == Variable and Data types == This langu
> 1748148889 131195 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158460&oldid=158442 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+15) 10
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> 1748152367 942917 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Funciton14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158462&oldid=158458 5* 03Timwi 5* (+650) 10Small clarification in the regex example
< 1748152982 887966 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now I wrote a program to parse a X.509 certificate. So far it only checks if the certificate expired and can extract the public key, but in future it might be made to do other stuff too.
< 1748153007 830342 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It was not very difficult to do the things I implemented so far.
> 1748153901 720395 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:*lang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158463 5* 03JJRubes 5* (+5565) 10linked list example program
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< 1748159912 635971 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Looking at 2D languages for ... reasons. Does Befunge not have an input command?
> 1748160043 378491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Pifrited/test14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158466 5* 03Pifrited 5* (+61) 10Teststst
< 1748160093 261426 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has two IIRC, one that reads a char from stdin and one that reads a number
< 1748160102 732920 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(integer)
< 1748160117 585452 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :~ and & it seems, respectively
< 1748160180 589852 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :..that's what I get for searching for "input" instead of actually reading the page
< 1748160292 765476 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can I use "Befunge" in a language name if it has significant incompatibilities? Maybe I should be making a new language from scratch
< 1748160441 360912 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :First thought: ' as an input version of ": Beep the screen and have the user type text after a space after the first ' up to the ' to the right
< 1748160498 782509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, maybe that's not... that interesting except for how input is fixed length
< 1748160574 602551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ooh, a command that turns N characters after it into an input field that just... becomes part of the program. Could be used to keep " as a normal string generator and yet turn it into an input command
< 1748160689 783748 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :input directly into the playfield would mix well with g and p
< 1748160712 780876 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, I think it should push existing characters away along the ray, rather than overwriting them
< 1748160716 59282 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :command that reads input directly into the program space sounds entertainingly cursed
< 1748160721 619284 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :otherwise it is hard to determine how long the input was
< 1748160754 613063 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could just push the length of the input onto the stack
< 1748160782 950356 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :command that when executed overwrites input in the direction of program execution (starting with the command itself) and then continues execution the cell after input finishes
< 1748160796 308791 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm actually probably not, that's terrible
< 1748160800 292517 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :note that input that goes directly into the playfield doesn't mix well with Befunge-98's skipping of multiple spaces
> 1748160805 114729 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Pifrited/TopNote14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158467 5* 03Pifrited 5* (+148) 10Created page with "TopNote is an esolang.  ==Commands== {| class="wikitable" |+ Caption text |- ! Command !! Meaning |- | Example || Example |- | Example || Example |}"
< 1748160807 485162 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah I guess you could push the length
< 1748160833 200381 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Shove may be interesting, its only way to read data from its own stack pops the stack directly into the playfield
< 1748160838 350450 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you might get inspiration from there, too
< 1748160843 249817 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I kind of have to know the length before I ask for input anyway, although the input could have spaces (or blanks) at the end?
< 1748160860 726890 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mostly I'm thinking of how to use the 3270 terminal in an interesting way
< 1748160887 668423 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well if it pushes existing commands away, rather than overwriting them, you don't need to know the input length in advance
< 1748161310 501328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Command that sets part of the playfield writable-when-input-is-next-requested, and command that pauses and waits for user to modify playfield?
> 1748161783 801434 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Pifrited/TopNote14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=158468&oldid=158467 5* 03Pifrited 5* (+290) 10/* Commands */
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< 1748161994 448082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Half wondering if I should force everything to be EBCDIC-1047 instead of ASCII. Doesn't really change the character that much or make implementation much easier or harder, but it's amusing
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> 1748168170 37043 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:WhatLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158469 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+41) 10Created page with "==About whatlang only has symbols is tc=="
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> 1748168889 263184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Braincow14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158472 5* 03Cotikthetik 5* (+208) 10Created page with "Braincow is esolang created by cotikthetik this is modification of brainfuck   == Syntax == Big is + in brainf Small is - Chicken is > Cow is < Dog is . Cat is , Start is [ End is ] == Examples == Placeholder"
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< 1748169450 534676 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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< 1748171195 690442 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Celebrate Towel-Day!
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> 1748173930 909962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:YufangTSTSU14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=158484 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+962) 10Created page with "Your name is , but why I got  when I put <span style='font-family:XEGOEALL'>7oH_1fT</span> in Shidinn transcriber?    --[[User:PrySigneToFry|<span style="color:blue;background:yellow;"></span>]]User talk:PrySigneToFry|<span style="color:aqua;backgroun
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< 1748203115 208182 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you have EBCDIC fonts?
< 1748203203 648109 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would that look like, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Used_Punchcard_(5151286161).jpg with just the holes? :P
< 1748203224 214605 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(EBCDIC is an encoding; fonts are for glyphs)
< 1748203394 196552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blue-punch-card-front-horiz.png -- it's funny to me how chaotic the non-alphanumeric part looks
< 1748203790 104840 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean a font with EBCDIC character set which is indexed by the EBCDIC. (In most or all variants of EBCDIC they could probably be based on other character sets with reordering but it should be taken into consideration in case there are any exceptions to this, which you should not be so sure that it isn't.)
< 1748203893 288390 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure but the obvious answer is "no" and where's the fun in that
< 1748203919 528570 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because the way people would actually do that is decode ebcdic as unicode and use an unicode indexed font
< 1748203988 471612 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now I'm wondering how much use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-EBCDIC gets.
< 1748204112 388808 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It would also be possible to use a multiple indexing font format, although the consideration that I had mentioned above may still be necessary for some variants of EBCDIC, the multiple indexing would at least make it possible to do so without needing multiple fonts. (In the case of UTF-EBCDIC, it is an encoding of Unicode, so in that case you would just use a Unicode font, but that is not the only kind of EBCDIC.)
< 1748204257 683770 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Furthermore, when using Unicode, there are more considerations than just the glyphs. Other than UTF-EBCDIC and other encodings of Unicode, it would be better to use other character sets since the handling of such things as this will be less complicated than Unicode.)
< 1748204343 639757 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Nevertheless, the use of Unicode is possible as a last resort in many cases (although some characters still might not be displayable), but too often Unicode is made the first resort instead, and I think that it shouldn't be.)
< 1748204467 803563 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(EBCDIC also has different control characters, but that is independent from the fonts, anyways.)
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< 1748207848 548885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://gist.github.com/Sgeo/f90552fd86e72f59f990c0271d95419e
< 1748207872 396036 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :MUSIC/SP has conversions between its EBCDIC and what it claims is ASCII, which as far as I can tell is actually ISO-8859-1
< 1748207992 844023 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Did you publish the output of the program too?
< 1748208010 682908 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(in case you want to use it outside of MUSIC/SP)
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< 1748210794 301445 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38, just added the resulting file. But including the character itself was a bad idea
< 1748210822 982459 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Couldn't even copy/paste from my editor because of the NUL (I assume), not sure ... how Github interpreted me dragging the file onto the page
< 1748211073 525715 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Someone on YouTube got access to a full MUSIC/SP system, not just the publicly available demo. I'm jealous
< 1748211220 808018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Converted to UTF-8 (from ISO-8859-1) in my text editor and reuploaded
< 1748212636 379788 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, the file will be usable now anyways, I suppose.
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