< 1755217240 528634 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What random number generator should I change it to, to use 256-bits? < 1755219921 956953 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement < 1755226021 817946 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1755226447 919672 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia JOIN #esolangs amadaluzia :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1755226612 200270 :lynndotpy6!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 QUIT :Quit: bye bye < 1755226634 709274 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1755226654 748004 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia JOIN #esolangs amadaluzia :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1755226662 699740 :lynndotpy6!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 JOIN #esolangs lynndotpy :lynn < 1755226730 764944 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1755226801 975918 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia JOIN #esolangs amadaluzia :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1755227854 469212 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Quit: You > 1755229232 185644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Pifrited/PasteBin14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163423&oldid=163279 5* 03Pifrited 5* (+184) 10 > 1755229777 551122 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Plasmatoroid 5* 10New user account < 1755229832 532650 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1755229885 247038 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1755231424 398208 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Pifrited/PasteBin14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163424&oldid=163423 5* 03Pifrited 5* (+1985) 10 > 1755234365 533472 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Monoid14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163425&oldid=163410 5* 03Corbin 5* (+325) 10/* NP-completeness */ Special case. < 1755236146 771573 :sftp!~sftp@user/sftp QUIT :Server closed connection < 1755236258 592237 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.36.182 JOIN #esolangs * :sftp < 1755236258 634869 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.36.182 CHGHOST ~sftp :user/sftp > 1755236610 887176 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163426&oldid=148158 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1792) 10/* Group formulation */ The group/monoid approach won't work, at least not over this simple relation. < 1755236971 30773 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1755237260 436875 :molson!~molson@24-124-54-137-dynamic.midco.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1755238264 224603 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1755238962 753238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Pifrited/How Alternating Checkerboard rule emulate work14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=163427 5* 03Pifrited 5* (+64) 10. < 1755241695 820044 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1755241801 564588 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1755242733 479010 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1755242956 213663 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1755243025 69841 :FreeFull!~freefull@79.186.33.54.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal > 1755243565 978757 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Useless 5* 10New user account < 1755244635 546757 :FreeFull!~freefull@79.186.33.54.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1755245274 787550 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1755246360 421424 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1755246814 616157 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi > 1755247839 212613 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=163428 5* 03None1 5* (+1315) 10Created page with "{{WIP}} {{lang|a=User:None1|i=[[Chicken]]}} It's also known as ccc:cc. Everyone knows that Chicken is inspired by [http://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf the article with only Chicken and punctuations]. This language is more similar to < 1755248327 865173 :strerror!~strerror@user/strerror PRIVMSG #esolangs :The fourth wiki entry starting with chicken (fewer than I was expecting) < 1755248727 207127 :strerror!~strerror@user/strerror PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think newer games have moved to cryptographic random generators (e.g. SHA256) if truly unpredictable numbers are needed, like in PvP. They need more cpu cycles though. > 1755248958 889092 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Radson 5* 10New user account < 1755249066 842862 :strerror!~strerror@user/strerror PRIVMSG #esolangs :(if complete unpredictability isn't needed, I doubt that 256 bits is necessary) > 1755250106 939627 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Psuranas 5* 10New user account > 1755250667 674787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163429&oldid=163428 5* 03None1 5* (+179) 10 < 1755251312 242275 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1755252661 604446 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163430&oldid=163429 5* 03None1 5* (+11808) 10 > 1755252690 683676 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163431&oldid=163390 5* 03None1 5* (+47) 10/* C */ > 1755252715 603053 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163432&oldid=161166 5* 03None1 5* (+48) 10 > 1755252742 40470 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163433&oldid=163430 5* 03None1 5* (-3) 10 > 1755252752 173092 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163434&oldid=163433 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* =Empty sentences */ > 1755252775 936368 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163435&oldid=137156 5* 03None1 5* (+14) 10 > 1755252824 325650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163436&oldid=163434 5* 03None1 5* (+113) 10 > 1755252943 14065 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ccc:cc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=163437 5* 03None1 5* (+54) 10Redirected page to [[Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken]] > 1755255775 797823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dumbascii14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163438&oldid=163406 5* 03None1 5* (+29) 10 > 1755255972 157602 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Sharp flat14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163439&oldid=163228 5* 03None1 5* (+347) 10 > 1755256257 165503 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163440&oldid=163389 5* 03C++DSUCKER 5* (+577) 10 > 1755256335 582820 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07^14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163441&oldid=153855 5* 03None1 5* (+29) 10/* Interpreter */ be more specific > 1755256353 965061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163442&oldid=163440 5* 03C++DSUCKER 5* (+26) 10 > 1755256362 911206 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163443&oldid=163442 5* 03C++DSUCKER 5* (+2) 10 > 1755256374 297683 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163444&oldid=163443 5* 03C++DSUCKER 5* (-1) 10 > 1755256511 156917 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163445&oldid=163444 5* 03C++DSUCKER 5* (-7) 10 > 1755256524 106968 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163446&oldid=163445 5* 03C++DSUCKER 5* (-9) 10 < 1755257070 378693 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1755258310 300552 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1755260268 724309 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1755260334 812649 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Hello3782 5* 10New user account > 1755260410 222128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163447&oldid=163397 5* 03Hello3782 5* (+236) 10 < 1755260605 631920 :Everything!~Everythin@static.208.206.21.65.clients.your-server.de JOIN #esolangs Everything :Everything > 1755260801 585442 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=163448 5* 03Hello3782 5* (+177) 10yes > 1755260837 737083 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Hello378214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=163449 5* 03Hello3782 5* (+22) 10Created page with "Hi this is me [[C]]" > 1755260859 399878 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C flat14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=163450 5* 03Hello3782 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[C]] < 1755261761 955946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1755261848 414383 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1755261883 386646 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia JOIN #esolangs amadaluzia :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1755261893 485045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Hajunsheng14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163451&oldid=162183 5* 03Hajunsheng 5* (-149) 10 > 1755261914 317989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mint14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163452&oldid=161446 5* 03Hajunsheng 5* (-20) 10 < 1755262244 962147 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname > 1755262598 62637 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF Joust champions14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163453&oldid=150009 5* 03Ais523 5* (+152) 10/* 2025 */ mention that later versions of backstop changed the strategy slightly > 1755262654 507057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF Joust champions14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163454&oldid=163453 5* 03Ais523 5* (+2) 10/* 2025 */ fix thinko in my previous edit > 1755264403 800122 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moed/Examples14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163455&oldid=155227 5* 03Dhzb 5* (+23) 10 < 1755264432 270564 :FreeFull!~freefull@79.186.33.54.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl QUIT : < 1755266271 98537 :Everything!~Everythin@static.208.206.21.65.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1755267937 173822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1755268795 725652 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 QUIT :Quit: I use ZNC - https://znc.in < 1755268825 954840 :user3456!user3456@gateway04.insomnia247.nl JOIN #esolangs * :user3456 < 1755268849 601292 :user3456!user3456@gateway04.insomnia247.nl NICK :Guest9802 < 1755270015 947683 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1755281304 63051 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1755281922 134382 :DOS_User_webchat!~DOS_User_@user/DOS-User:11249 JOIN #esolangs DOS_User :[https://web.libera.chat] DOS_User_webchat > 1755282357 493291 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163456&oldid=163448 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+9) 10stub < 1755283663 988184 :DOS_User_webchat!~DOS_User_@user/DOS-User:11249 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1755283673 154310 :DOS_User_webchat!~DOS_User_@user/DOS-User:11249 JOIN #esolangs DOS_User :[https://web.libera.chat] DOS_User_webchat < 1755284250 254659 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :For my use, I will want to use faster random numbers and is not multi-players < 1755284294 593439 :DOS_User_webchat!~DOS_User_@user/DOS-User:11249 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do i bring my dice? (idont have context) < 1755284407 316965 :user3456!user3456@gateway04.insomnia247.nl JOIN #esolangs * :user3456 < 1755284431 365246 :user3456!user3456@gateway04.insomnia247.nl NICK :Guest8291 < 1755284475 455229 :Guest8291!user3456@gateway04.insomnia247.nl CHGHOST user3456 :user/user3456 < 1755284506 269770 :Guest8291!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :user3456 < 1755285173 918653 :DOS_User_webchat!~DOS_User_@user/DOS-User:11249 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1755285876 840780 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points -9.93, score 13.47, rank 46/47 < 1755286165 272174 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points -5.88, score 17.53, rank 25/47 (+21) < 1755286636 481194 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nighty-Night * < 1755286716 545813 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points -2.48, score 20.12, rank 18/47 (+7) < 1755287127 795065 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points -0.93, score 21.52, rank 16/47 (+2) < 1755287226 927809 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: so one possibility is to hash consecutive integers, then split each resulting hash into small segments and treat each of those segments as a random result < 1755287249 218328 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that way, one hashing operation gives you several random results, so it helps to reduce the performance hit of using the hashing algorithm < 1755287598 987244 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points -0.21, score 22.15, rank 15/47 (+1) < 1755289187 235094 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points -0.10, score 22.20, rank 15/47 (--) < 1755289293 571512 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points 1.81, score 23.93, rank 12/47 (+3) < 1755290057 779069 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points 1.83, score 23.95, rank 12/47 (--) < 1755290100 926658 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points 1.93, score 24.04, rank 12/47 (--) < 1755290555 803270 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points 2.14, score 24.22, rank 12/47 (--) < 1755290769 509308 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.medium: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-35) < 1755290805 921121 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755290806 178021 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 2.14, score 24.22, rank 12/47 < 1755290828 948328 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I was initially just messing around but this does much better than I expected) < 1755290852 600800 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, I think the general strategy is too unstable for it to become a champion < 1755291137 618526 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755291137 863927 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 2.62, score 25.27, rank 10/47 (+2) < 1755291406 929809 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755291407 121545 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 2.81, score 25.56, rank 9/47 (+1) < 1755291452 547517 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it now beats 8 out of the top 10 programs, losing to two_thirds and tying with itself < 1755291495 547533 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it turns out that the standard strategy that most of the winners use is predictable enough to take advantage of it < 1755291633 194147 :amadaluzia_!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia JOIN #esolangs amadaluzia :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1755291702 401805 :amadaluzia!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds > 1755292454 468528 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF Joust strategies14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163457&oldid=149567 5* 03Ais523 5* (+787) 10/* Accelerated clear */ new section < 1755292869 985333 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1755293024 953624 :ajal!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1755293248 977038 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1755293367 439273 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755293367 652256 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 3.52, score 26.24, rank 9/47 (--) < 1755293561 321392 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1755293919 826866 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755293920 99287 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 4.43, score 26.89, rank 8/47 (+1) < 1755294491 745012 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755294491 972456 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 4.86, score 27.30, rank 7/47 (+1) < 1755294922 763756 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755294923 2403 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 6.95, score 29.78, rank 6/47 (+1) < 1755295208 460397 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust medium http://nethack4.org/pastebin/medium.bfjoust < 1755295208 762235 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.medium: points 7.05, score 29.81, rank 6/47 (--) < 1755295402 124537 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:b18c:352c:ad0a:c01 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1755295417 438324 :amadaluzia_!~amadaluzi@user/amadaluzia QUIT :Quit: You > 1755297876 463611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Arch is the best! without a quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=163458 5* 03WarzokERNST135 5* (+403) 10Created page with "[[Arch is the best! without a quine]] is an esolang made by ~~~~ which is like Arch is the best!, but if you type this: Arch is the best! it outputs: Yes, Arch is the best! Anything else outputs: Arch is the best! [[Category:Languages] < 1755297911 823929 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do we really need a quineless version of every language that just prints a fixed string? < 1755298040 209642 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( We have the answers to your rhetorical questions. ) < 1755299399 183199 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you can tell me what [[category:nope. derivatives]] should be renamed to -- something like [[category:constant languages]] or [[category:constants]] -- then I'll do the needful. < 1755299433 373202 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, I'd be willing to fill out [[category:quine-avoiding languages]]; maybe that could go through the talk-page process. < 1755301134 628191 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: might be worth discussing the name on the categorisation page < 1755301156 444460 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the name "constant string printers" came to mind, but I think we normally use that for esolangs which allow you to choose which constant string gets printed < 1755301190 534640 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in general it is a bad idea to make big changes to categories without discussion, it is hard for individual people get it right on their own (I know I struggle with it) < 1755301631 837135 :FreeFull!~freefull@79.186.33.54.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl QUIT : > 1755301965 88321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF Joust strategies14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163459&oldid=163457 5* 03Ais523 5* (+4) 10/* Clear */ fix capitalisation of [[brainfuck]] > 1755302231 118259 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF Joust strategies14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=163460&oldid=163459 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* Careless clear */ the example didn't match the commentary change the commentary to match