> 1757376254 436405 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Emoticode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164502&oldid=163179 5* 03Myalt2334 5* (+472) 10Updated outdated syntax, added comments section > 1757376407 270079 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Emoticode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164503&oldid=164502 5* 03Myalt2334 5* (+110) 10/* Strings */ < 1757380485 908205 :amby!~ambylastn@host-81-178-154-135.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1757384719 54179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Emoticode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164504&oldid=164503 5* 03Myalt2334 5* (+5) 10/* Flush */ > 1757385353 617220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Emoticode14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=164505 5* 03Myalt2334 5* (+185) 10Created page with "Okay I did NOT know [[Emo]] existed when I designed Emoticode. They did it better I think, but I abstracted I don't think they did that so I mean like at least my take was semi-original" > 1757385364 48675 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Emoticode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164506&oldid=164505 5* 03Myalt2334 5* (+92) 10 < 1757389565 736707 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How to prevent some DOS games from auto-detecting the sound card (in case I want to use the PC speaker instead)? (Many games include an option, but some don't. Additionally, while some have a separate option for music and for sound effects, some have only one option which affects both.) < 1757396697 457417 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1757396720 414710 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1757398394 823288 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AEL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164507&oldid=164491 5* 03Pro465 5* (-4) 10/* Quine */ shorten quine < 1757400942 192701 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1757401328 523475 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1757401475 736589 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust two_thirds http://nethack4.org/pastebin/two_thirds.bfjoust < 1757401476 110173 :zemhill!~cinch@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.two_thirds: points 21.10, score 55.95, rank 1/47 (--) < 1757401589 60431 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is ridiculous that the optimisation goals now include "making your decoy setup harder to recognise" < 1757401647 58467 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but this nonetheless has helped avoid me overfitting – takwin-yuzbasi is trying to special-case against two_thirds and previously I was defeating that by modifying details of the decoys to reverse the special case, getting an arbitrary advantage < 1757401683 740883 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that just leads to a sequence of repeatedly flipping checks, so now the decoy setup is designed to be neutral in terms of recognisability and I went and got the win back by improving other cases instead < 1757401714 840731 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(with the consequence that two_thirds is doing even better against the field generally, with the exception of space_elevator which naturally beats some of the new cases but is still beaten by the old ones) < 1757401939 511172 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1757402338 155306 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164508&oldid=164499 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-21) 10 > 1757402411 849740 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164509&oldid=164508 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10 > 1757402431 310600 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164510&oldid=164509 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-28) 10 < 1757402823 448053 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust two_thirds http://nethack4.org/pastebin/two_thirds.bfjoust < 1757402823 688730 :zemhill!~cinch@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.two_thirds: points 21.14, score 56.19, rank 1/47 (--) < 1757402829 996945 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(bugfix) > 1757402948 541726 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164511&oldid=164498 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-730) 10/* Implementation */ > 1757402972 848794 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF Joust champions14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164512&oldid=164379 5* 03Ais523 5* (+267) 10/* 2025 */ one more special case in two_thirds < 1757403101 620150 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :really, any program can be beaten by overfitting to it specifically, but the hope is to make two_thirds hard enough to overfit against that any program that attempts to do so will get knocked off the hill by the programs it isn't overfit against < 1757403176 424786 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the interesting thing is that takwin-yuzbasi is generally good against two_third's strategy in addition to the overfitting to the decoy setup, which is healthy as it just helps to add to the massively complex rock-paper-scissors that is the hill < 1757403194 144173 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* two_thirds' < 1757403223 155233 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, hmm, two_thirds ends with a plural noun but it is a name, so technically singular, so maybe it should be two_thirds's? < 1757403330 291201 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :many programs nowadays aim to win on some ranges of tape lengths and intentionally sacrifice the others against certain strategies (e.g. the "skip to cell 18 or so if you don't see any decoys early" strategy, which helps a lot against programs that set a lot of decoys and doesn't sacrifice too much against programs that set few) < 1757403400 967214 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, you can counter that using strategies that, e.g., assume the tape length is even (because that gives you enough speed to beat the decoy-skippers on long even tape lengths, but they lose on all the shorter tape lengths, so you win the short tapes and half of the long ones = more than 50%) < 1757403427 939594 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on this reasoning, you would expect takwin-yuzbasi to do very well against medium, and indeed it does < 1757404505 91247 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi < 1757404616 796839 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1757404944 151877 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :☺ < 1757409085 583979 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine < 1757409328 979196 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1757409810 565634 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1757411710 315073 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1757413048 537497 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LongJump14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=164513 5* 03None1 5* (+1059) 10Created page with "'''LongJump''' is a 2D [[fungeoid]] invented by [[User:None1]]. ==Memory== It has 2 unbounded signed accumulators: A and B, both initialized with 0. ==Grid== A [[Nopfunge]]-styled grid is used. Both line numbers and column numbers are 0-indexed. Execution starts at (0,0) > 1757413190 31188 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LongJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164514&oldid=164513 5* 03None1 5* (+90) 10/* XKCD Random Number */ > 1757413207 202747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LongJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164515&oldid=164514 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* XKCD Random Number */ > 1757413226 741647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LongJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164516&oldid=164515 5* 03None1 5* (+20) 10/* Commands */ > 1757413267 470056 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164517&oldid=160481 5* 03None1 5* (+3) 10/* Staples */ Change to H3 > 1757413278 578931 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164518&oldid=164517 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* Stats */ > 1757413313 424244 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164519&oldid=164518 5* 03None1 5* (+6) 10/* Program */ > 1757413325 66303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164520&oldid=164519 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* Program */ > 1757413354 59629 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164521&oldid=164520 5* 03None1 5* (+167) 10/* Length */ > 1757413483 341451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164522&oldid=164409 5* 03None1 5* (+15) 10/* L */ > 1757413566 388367 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164523&oldid=140357 5* 03None1 5* (+462) 10/* Unknown languages */ new section > 1757413602 598864 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164524&oldid=164070 5* 03None1 5* (+71) 10 > 1757413738 51903 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164525&oldid=163282 5* 03None1 5* (+350) 10 < 1757416199 624106 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1757417311 990753 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1757418767 733366 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1757419814 304735 :amby!~ambylastn@host-81-178-154-135.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname > 1757422601 885378 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Birchb1024 5* 10New user account > 1757423001 338332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164526&oldid=164471 5* 03Birchb1024 5* (+210) 10 < 1757423040 97527 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1757426167 674004 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164527&oldid=164525 5* 03Ais523 5* (+519) 10/* Can you prove computational class for esolang LongJump? */ the language specification is missing an important detail < 1757426225 581051 :Everything!~Everythin@5.248.97.251 JOIN #esolangs Everything :Everything < 1757428883 666446 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1757428971 281029 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, so I finally found documentation on how x86alike memory ordering actually works: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pes20/weakmemory/cacm.pdf < 1757429025 492122 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from a C++ memory model point of view, the "default" memory ordering for ordinary instructions seems to be acquire-release, but unlocked RMW instructions aren't atomic in the sense that things can happen between the acquire and release (this is one of the main reasons to lock – the other reason is for if you need sequential consistency) > 1757429587 663824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:/nil14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164528&oldid=163225 5* 03Qawtykit 5* (+71) 10 < 1757430473 413622 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(to clarify: reads acquire and writes release, they don't both do both) < 1757430753 904846 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine < 1757430959 628657 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1757431023 856307 :strerror!~strerror@user/strerror PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was told long ago that acquire-release was invented to describe what architectures like x86 were already doing. < 1757431126 823171 :strerror!~strerror@user/strerror PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And other archs which didn't default to acquire-release, like Power, followed suit or died out.) < 1757431170 863856 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a bit complicated – some architectures have explicit "acquire" and "release" prefixes/bits, and there's the "consume" memory order which matches what weakly ordered processors do but has proven hard to specify and work with < 1757431188 751886 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suspect that the memory models and processors influenced each other > 1757431902 705642 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CCigC 5* 10New user account < 1757432223 818685 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine > 1757432389 258970 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164529&oldid=164526 5* 03CCigC 5* (+164) 10 < 1757433330 793402 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1757433330 940606 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1757433747 603562 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164530&oldid=164523 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+247) 10/* Unknown languages */ > 1757433849 340633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164531&oldid=164521 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-10) 10 > 1757433886 909635 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164532&oldid=164531 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+1) 10/* Esolangs.org */ < 1757435609 813753 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1757436624 562167 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Hotcrystal0/CGoL+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164533&oldid=157676 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-26) 10 < 1757436872 967390 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1757438925 339984 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1757439163 374785 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1757439340 384728 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164534&oldid=164532 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (-4) 10/* Esolangs.org */ revert back to h2 < 1757440621 91795 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc6:3201:b044:c894:d6c4:ecae JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1757442489 612638 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :cu < 1757442976 773666 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1757443697 116428 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DotSF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164535&oldid=160600 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+157) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the DotSF programming language on GitHub and marked the extant implementation's provenance as absent. < 1757444125 596263 :Everything!~Everythin@5.248.97.251 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1757446067 605437 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1757446151 104632 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1757447875 447657 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1757448169 964871 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc6:3201:b044:c894:d6c4:ecae QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1757448474 952597 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1757448715 97108 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc6:3201:b044:c894:d6c4:ecae JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic > 1757450050 770117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Python' is not recognized14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164536&oldid=164015 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Truth-machine */ > 1757450330 209495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Python' is not recognized14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164537&oldid=164536 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+94) 10 > 1757450371 590444 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Python' is not recognized14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164538&oldid=164537 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10/* Syntax */ > 1757450446 50124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Python' is not recognized14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164539&oldid=164538 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+31) 10/* Syntax */ > 1757454532 456384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164540&oldid=164403 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-91) 10/* Interpreter */ > 1757454739 847153 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164541&oldid=164540 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1757455376 262862 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:298e:6063:53dd:ee4e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1757455509 772402 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fc6:3201:b044:c894:d6c4:ecae QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1757456719 187700 :zemhill!~cinch@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :web.takwin-yuzbasi: points -2.95, score 18.85, rank 25/47 (+7) > 1757458507 45780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Hotcrystal0/CGoL+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=164542&oldid=154283 5* 03HyperbolicireworksPen 5* (+156) 10 < 1757458705 592963 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1757459127 207776 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, Pipe Push Paradise game is done after 47 main puzzles, an interlude puzzle and two sets of 8 extra puzzles each. :-) < 1757459285 505119 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine