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02:32:47 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165667&oldid=165506 * Iacgm * (+93) /* Introductions */
02:34:55 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck code generation]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165668&oldid=138765 * Iacgm * (+51) /* Languages that compile to brainfuck */
02:52:44 <esolangs> [[C2bf]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=165669 * Iacgm * (+1243) Created page with "C2bf (not to be confused with [[C2BF]]) is a [[compiler]] from a large subset of C into [[Brainfuck]] written by Ian Graham Martinez. The project is written in Rust, and the source code is available at [https://github.com/iacgm/c2bf]. The project supports: - Integer Arithme
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02:55:30 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Iacgm * moved [[C2bf rs]] to [[C2bf (2025)]]
02:55:38 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Iacgm * moved [[C2bf (2025)]] to [[C2BF (2025)]]
02:56:27 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck code generation]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165676&oldid=165668 * Iacgm * (+9) /* Languages that compile to brainfuck */
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07:46:35 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165680&oldid=165667 * Elbereth * (+234) Hi, I'm currently interested in [[Core War]] & NetHack, though just starting in both; I found this wiki accidentally when searching about Core War.
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09:28:25 <esolangs> [[ETC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=165681 * Elbereth * (+1454) It's simple, but not without potential...
09:30:28 <esolangs> [[ETC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165682&oldid=165681 * Elbereth * (+0) The usual wiki code transformation :(
09:31:46 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165683&oldid=165548 * Elbereth * (+10) /* E */ [[ETC]]
09:38:46 <esolangs> [[User:Elbereth]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=165684 * Elbereth * (+286) Created page with "Has not made anything notable yet; Hi; I'm currently interested in [[Core War]] & NetHack, the former being the reason i got here; I might improve pages by updating outdated information, maybe even user pages if there is a good enough reason (please check edit
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10:34:51 <iddi01> !ztest epsilon https://raw-paste.vercel.app/raw/4o990n984n470np1639p1723394337r9
10:34:52 <zemhill> iddi01: URL fetch problems: 429 Too Many Requests
10:35:13 <iddi01> !ztest epsilon https://raw-paste.vercel.app/raw/4o990n984n470np1639p1723394337r9
10:35:13 <zemhill> iddi01: URL fetch problems: 429 Too Many Requests
10:35:49 <iddi01> !ztest epsilon https://raw-paste.vercel.app/raw/4o990n984n470np1639p1723394337r9
10:35:49 <zemhill> iddi01: URL fetch problems: 429 Too Many Requests
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10:38:05 <iddi01> !ztest epsilon https://raw-paste.vercel.app/raw/4o990n984n470np1639p1723394337r9
10:38:05 <zemhill> iddi01: URL fetch problems: 429 Too Many Requests
10:39:04 <esolangs> [[LLvlN]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165686&oldid=165685 * TheSpiderNinjas * (+16)
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10:40:32 <esolangs> [[Quantum-LLvlN]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165687&oldid=165654 * TheSpiderNinjas * (+2) Rename Quantum-LLvlN to LLvlN-Quantum
10:40:47 <fizzie> Even from an endpoint that's definitely never fetched it before, that URL gives me a javascript-requiring proof-of-work challenge, which isn't going to happen with zemhill.
10:41:09 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * TheSpiderNinjas * moved [[Quantum-LLvlN]] to [[LLvlN-Quantum]]: Rename Quantum-LLvlN to LLvlN-Quantum
10:41:09 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * TheSpiderNinjas * moved [[Talk:Quantum-LLvlN]] to [[Talk:LLvlN-Quantum]]: Rename Quantum-LLvlN to LLvlN-Quantum
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10:41:56 <iddi01> I can't get a paste into pastebin.com anymore, it always falls back to the main page after the captcha...
10:42:26 <iddi01> please suggest an alternative!
10:43:07 <esolangs> [[LLvlN-Quantum]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165692&oldid=165688 * TheSpiderNinjas * (+8)
10:43:15 <fizzie> https://0x0.st/ is what I usually use (via curl).
10:43:19 <esolangs> [[LLvlN-Quantum]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165693&oldid=165692 * TheSpiderNinjas * (-48)
10:43:44 <esolangs> [[LLvlN]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165694&oldid=165686 * TheSpiderNinjas * (-18)
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10:52:54 <iddi01> does not work: "405 Method Not Allowed"
10:58:23 <fizzie> !ztest bad https://0x0.st/KMCl.txt
10:58:24 <zemhill> fizzie.bad: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47
10:58:35 <fizzie> Works for me, that's all I know: https://0x0.st/KMCU.txt
10:59:25 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * 6e12fyou * New user account
11:00:22 <fizzie> I guess you could hypothetically use HackEso as well, but it would require splitting a program to fit on IRC lines, and be incredibly inconvenient as well.
11:02:27 <esolangs> [[LogicGates]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=165695 * None1 * (+1840) Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1}} ==Memory== It uses a bit accmulator, an unbounded bit tape and a pointer. All bits are initially 0. ==Commands== * {{cd|<}}/{{cd|>}}: Move the pointer to the left/right. * {{cd|[''CODE'']}}: While accmulator isn't 0, do ''CODE''. * Logic gates rep
11:03:03 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165696&oldid=165683 * None1 * (+17) /* L */
11:03:31 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165697&oldid=165696 * None1 * (+0) /* L */
11:04:05 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165698&oldid=165358 * None1 * (+64) /* My Esolangs */
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11:04:22 <fizzie> https://bpa.st/ is another site they recommend on #c -- it has a web form, and a 'raw' link that seems okay.
11:05:37 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165699&oldid=165680 * 6e12fyou * (+183) /* Introductions */
11:05:47 <esolangs> [[User:6e12fyou]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=165700 * 6e12fyou * (+5) Created page with "hi :)"
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11:06:36 <iddi01> !ztest epsilon https://bpa.st/raw/GBOA
11:06:37 <zemhill> iddi01.epsilon: points 22.19, score 57.64, rank 1/47 (+1)
11:06:44 <esolangs> [[Looping counter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165701&oldid=165433 * None1 * (+64) /* Iterate */
11:07:21 <iddi01> fizzie: thanks a lot, somehow these sites cannot be found via online searching...
11:07:32 <iddi01> !zjoust epsilon https://bpa.st/raw/GBOA
11:07:32 <zemhill> iddi01.epsilon: points 22.19, score 57.64, rank 1/47 (+1)
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11:11:31 <fizzie> Hmm, I wonder if the zemhill visualization stuff would still run, those plots haven't been updated in a long long time.
11:13:46 <esolangs> [[Talk:BRaInFUCK]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165703&oldid=165546 * None1 * (+284)
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11:41:46 <esolangs> [[Setler v2]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165704&oldid=164835 * TheSpiderNinjas * (+67) Updated Setler v2
11:57:24 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * TheSpiderNinjas * moved [[Autism]] to [[Autism (Unary)]]: Disambiguation
11:57:24 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * TheSpiderNinjas * moved [[Talk:Autism]] to [[Talk:Autism (Unary)]]: Disambiguation
11:58:42 <esolangs> [[Redcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165709&oldid=147544 * Elbereth * (+1244) yet another revision on this
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12:01:33 <esolangs> [[Autism (Esolang)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=165711 * TheSpiderNinjas * (+3439) Created new esoteric programming language based on rigid routines and repetitive patterns
12:02:55 <esolangs> [[Autism (Esolang)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165712&oldid=165711 * TheSpiderNinjas * (-3397) Removed specification content, requesting creation
12:03:37 <esolangs> [[Selter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165713&oldid=163173 * TheSpiderNinjas * (+21) Redirected page to [[Setler]]
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12:32:55 <ais523> ooh, iddi01.epsilon has joined the rarefied ranks of "programs that managed to take the #1 spot on the hill despite two_thirds having a 100% win rate"
12:35:36 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[?barinfuck]] to [[?brainfuck]]: history merge to ?brainfuck page was created at the wrong title, then moved via cut-and-paste
12:35:36 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[?brainfuck]]": Deleted to make way for move from "[[?barinfuck]]"
12:36:04 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/delete]] restore * Ais523 * undeleted "[[?brainfuck]]": part two of history merge
12:36:27 <esolangs> [[?brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165719&oldid=165718 * Ais523 * (+1603) set top revision after history merge
12:39:41 <esolangs> [[User talk:HyperbolicireworksPen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165720&oldid=164585 * Ais523 * (+675) /* How to move pages */ new section
12:45:09 <ais523> …it is kind-of astonishing that that seems to be easier than beating two_thirds without overfitting or mirroring (the only non-overfitted programs I've managed to beat two_thirds with were other versions of two_thirds with slightly different decoy setups, creating near-mirror matches where it won a couple of cycles earlier)
12:46:27 <ais523> as an experiment, I tried changing epsilon's decoys to overfit to two_thirds's clear loop, two_thirds still won
12:46:42 <ais523> because the larger decoys slowed it down too much
12:55:53 <fizzie> (The answer to the question about the visualizations, by the way, is no: I don't have the necessary Ruby bits installed for the "modern" plots, or Python 2 for the "legacy" egostats plots. All fixable, of course, but would require some work.)
13:06:49 <esolangs> [[Force of Arch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165721&oldid=157446 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-23)
13:07:11 <esolangs> [[An arch is simply a curve.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165722&oldid=157445 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-24)
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13:08:24 <esolangs> [[Doug]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165724&oldid=157444 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-24)
13:09:37 <esolangs> [[BF Joust champions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165725&oldid=164512 * Elbereth * (+1150) /* 2025 */ While checking IRC logs i noticed this new champion which were not listed here; since i'm totally new to this, trying to work it out was hard, please correct mistakes XD
13:11:46 <esolangs> [[BF Joust strategies]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165726&oldid=164429 * Ais523 * (+2) /* Decoy */ typo fix
13:18:10 <esolangs> [[Neko]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165727&oldid=165664 * Dmiz * (+31)
13:19:48 <ais523> it's also worth noting that while testing medium, I initially started on the cases for beating high-decoy-count programs before focusing on the cases for beating low-decoy-count programs: one of those draft versions tied with two_thirds and beat the other top programs, but I didn't submit it because it wasn't good against the field, it lost against any program that didn't set a large number of decoys
13:20:31 <ais523> so it wasn't overfitted to the specific program but it was overfitted to beating its general strategy (and somehow it was still only a tie)
13:23:47 <ais523> that got me wondering what the highest-scoring low-decoy-count program was, it appears to be medium (which sets 3 decoys)
13:26:25 <ais523> then three_legged_frog (also 3 decoys) is next
13:26:55 <ais523> so #7 and #12 – looks like low decoy count is not a popular strategy at the top of the hill (which is why it's possible to do well even sacrificing that matchup)
13:29:10 <ais523> on the topic of visualisations, I realised that the best visualisation for showing decoy setups would probably be "average value of each cell position the last time this program adjusts it" – programs normally don't adjust their own decoys after raising them to their full height, even though defensive programs often move over them (note that you would need to be careful for NaN values because some programs never adjust certain tape cells)
13:36:43 <esolangs> [[Neko]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165728&oldid=165727 * Dmiz * (+66)
13:45:29 <esolangs> [[BF Joust strategies]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165729&oldid=165726 * Ais523 * (+256) /* Cleared decoy detection */ a counter-countermeasure (it seems like, in BF Joust, whenever a strategy is invented there's a very good chance that someone will eventually produce an offset version)
13:48:59 <esolangs> [[BF Joust strategies]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165730&oldid=165729 * Ais523 * (-1) /* Observing a cell clear early */ fix typo
13:49:02 <esolangs> [[Neko]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=165731&oldid=165728 * Dmiz * (+55)
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15:18:29 <fizzie> I think Libera.Chat might be one of those networks where you have to stay connected for at least 5 minutes before it allows a custom quit message.
15:19:19 <fizzie> It's frustratingly difficult to find any authoritative source for that, but this suggests that's the case: https://github.com/Libera-Chat/solanum/blob/main/doc/reference.conf#L1120-L1123
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15:20:12 <fizzie> Although that particular filter should just clamp it down to "Client Quit", so maybe that's not the reason.
15:21:12 <fizzie> https://github.com/Libera-Chat/solanum/blob/main/modules/core/m_quit.c#L83-L96 -- yeah, if it's "Quit: ...", it was probably actually from the client.
15:23:09 <b_jonas> dos_user: what fizzie says, libera suppresses your quit message if you haven't been present for long enough, so that you can't abuse the quit message itself for spam so easily
15:23:44 <b_jonas> there might be limits to part messages too, I don't know
15:27:09 <fizzie> That's what I thought, but it looks to me from the code that that suppression should have resulted in a quit message of "Client Quit" rather than "Quit: dos_user".
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