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11:40:09 <esolangs> [[Classical logic]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=166007 * BestCoder * (+659) Created page with "Classic logic is a system for proof == Operators == or and not xor =[ implies/conditional bimplies/bi conditional turnstile/proves == Truth values == false
11:59:51 <esolangs> [[Erase]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=166008 * BestCoder * (+298) Created page with "Erase is an esolang where you erase == Commands == erase <x> - erases the character at x print <x> - prints the character at x if <x> <y> - goes to y if character at x is T == Program == helo wrd print 0 print 1 print 2 print 2 print 3 print 4 print 5 print 3
12:34:29 <esolangs> [[Ikiwekiwow]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=166009&oldid=166006 * Corbin * (+194) /* Input and Output */ Decidable in linear time! It's just 2SAT.
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14:40:10 <Sgeo> IBM mainframe terminology uses "esoteric" in a rather esoteric way. IIUC it's assigning a name to a group of devices
14:51:27 <HackEso> olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1334.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo boily nortti b_jonas Noisytoot
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16:22:31 <Sgeo> FORTRAN IV string constants can't be 0 characters
16:23:17 <Sgeo> https://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/fortran/GC28-6515-11_IBM_System360_and_System370_FORTRAN_IV_Language_Sep83.pdf
16:24:03 <Sgeo> "Each character requires one byte of storage. The number of characters in the string, including blanks, may not be less than 1 or greater than 255."
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17:58:55 <fizzie> Heh. Like they do every year, they did one of those silly keyboards, and this year's made me chuckle: https://github.com/google/mozc-devices/tree/main/mozc-dial
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21:36:07 <zzo38> What I read is that GCC has a "gnu::offset" parameter for #embed and Clang has a "clang::offset" parameter for #embed and they seem to have the same or a similar meaning. Perhaps they (both GCC and Clang) should implement "gnu::offset" and "clang::offset" with the same meaning so that programs that use that parameter can be used with both compilers.
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22:56:07 <b_jonas> zzo38: yes, clang usually eventually implements most of the gcc extensions, especially if it can be added without breaking stuff, so if they really have the same meaning then that'll probably happen
22:57:36 <b_jonas> and I think being able to compile the linux kernel source is a large part of what drove the development of all those gcc extensions into clang, such as adding labelled structure initializers old syntax
22:57:52 <b_jonas> (old syntax uses colons instead of square brackets and equals sign)
23:12:04 <Sgeo> //SSABEND DD SYSOUT=*
23:12:13 <Sgeo> Oops //SYSABEND DD SYSOUT=*
23:15:51 <ais523> in a way it's a bit surprising that the kernel didn't switch to the C99 syntax
23:15:55 <ais523> but I guess there wasn't enough gain
23:32:58 <b_jonas> the kernel does a lot of things that aren't standard in C or even normally done in user-space programs
23:33:22 <b_jonas> probably a bit less now that standard C has atomics and fences in it, but still
23:34:15 <b_jonas> though on the other hand, there are three mostly independent compilers that could compile the kernel at some point: gcc, clang, and bellard's tcc, so I think the C extensions perhaps aren't the bottleneck
23:35:09 <b_jonas> and right now I don't really see what other compiler you'd even want to port it to. I don't think there's any incentive to port to MSVC, and Intel seems to be giving up on their existing compiler and mostly embracing clang, though of course they haven't completely thrown away their compiler yet
23:36:18 <b_jonas> the tricky question is more when it's safe and future-proof enough to allow rust (or zig or C++) code into the kernel
23:36:57 <b_jonas> rust will probably eventually have two independent compilers (though probably not two mostly independent standard libraries), but it'll take a few more years
23:37:34 <b_jonas> I think zig had two compilers at some point but the bootstrapping one is now deprecated and will be phased out
23:38:21 <b_jonas> gcc went hard into C++ so there's no question C++ will be supported forever, but unlike with rust or zig it's not clear how much C++ would gain for the kernel, as most of its features aren't very appropriate for the kernel
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