< 1761955484 761985 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: aaaaa
< 1761956187 541533 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`learn The password of the month is a red herring.
< 1761956192 315313 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is a red herring.
< 1761956606 117123 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I was tempted to go with "OH SNAP" but it doesn't feel funny, certainly won't be funny if it's still relevant at the end of the month.)
< 1761956738 796133 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :When using the IBM 305 RAMAC with the general purpose process control panel and constants on track Z, the follow instruction jumps to 187: Z38-99017 
< 1761956826 555513 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's explain as jumping to htu being Z(h+2)t -99 01 u
< 1761956832 121995 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo_: That seems to be incredibly useful information, but I don't know for whom.
< 1761956888 408187 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :People writing software to run on a currently non-existent 305 RAMAC emulator?
< 1761956889 240654 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and to be clear, that's not a complaint)
< 1761956924 814640 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://archive.org/details/the-ibm-305-ramac-general-purpose-process-control-panel
< 1761956937 269481 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I need to reread the main documentation about selectors
< 1761957149 673218 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I... don't remember track addresses having second or third digits being letters
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< 1761959123 797969 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: %#e woudl hvae been a possibility if they wanted flags
< 1761959177 578267 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm no
< 1761959183 801470 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :%#e already has a meaning
< 1761960182 512420 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1761961092 69109 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION was a bit confused by this: Instruction number is not address. The instructions are all 10 characters, and it's pretty easy to go back and forth between drum (memory) address and instruction number, but they're not the same. Was confused why it was possible to jump to a non-0 ones digit
> 1761961256 120369 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Synonyms for smelly14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167028 5* 03RainbowDash 5* (+1580) 10this is a joke page, with intentionally bad writing
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> 1761968157 449877 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07You make the esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167031&oldid=167030 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+382) 10As I'm the first contributor to the commands, I wish I can having a bigger character limit.
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> 1761970176 510014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167035&oldid=166980 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+86) 10
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> 1761976394 518483 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167046&oldid=156932 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+311) 10
> 1761976425 559809 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere2(school)/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167047&oldid=167038 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-94) 10Blanked the page
> 1761976702 255156 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167048&oldid=167045 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+149) 10/* Commands */
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> 1761978972 424869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167056&oldid=167046 5* 03Ais523 5* (+639) 10/* Etymology? */ the etymology
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> 1761979148 986208 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167058&oldid=167054 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-52) 10
< 1761979479 604101 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1761979865 535660 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167060&oldid=167059 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+24) 10/* Commands */
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> 1761980298 198532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167062&oldid=167060 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+0) 10/* Commands */
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> 1761980349 461722 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unlambda to Underflow14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167064 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+1514) 10Created page with "'''Unlambda to Underflow''' is a fun little experiment, translating [[Unlambda]] into Underflow(using the [[Underload]] translation table) == Translation == All the same properties of the Underload translation(both from Unlambda to underload and
> 1761980464 731103 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unlambda to Underflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167065&oldid=167064 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+243) 10/* Translation */
> 1761980755 749639 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pteryx14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167066 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+6991) 10Created page with "Pteryx is designed by PSTF.  In some language (in my memory, it was Ancient Greek), "Pteryx" means wings. The reason it was named '''''Pteryx''''' is because I hoped it could be as powerful as a lion(or tiger, as I'm Chinese) with wings.  Although it is still in th
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< 1761981252 454432 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine
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> 1761981414 645923 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167070&oldid=167067 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+63) 10/* Underload to Underflow */
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< 1761984346 752348 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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< 1761986731 893072 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had a bad dream where an old BASIC interpreter had integer types that couldn't take all values from -32768..32767 inclusive, but only had a range of something like -30720..30719 inclusive and raised an overflow error outside that
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< 1761986797 286762 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not that it matters because the answer is the same as with a full range: if you want a large range you use floating-point variables. 
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> 1761994413 437894 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0795-9814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167088&oldid=167087 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+13) 10
> 1761994473 536258 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:95-9814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167089&oldid=166613 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+156) 10
> 1761994699 935944 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(*U14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167090&oldid=145677 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-9984) 10/* examples */
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< 1761994864 708228 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello people!
< 1761994873 931319 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a question
< 1761994887 376112 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: I answered your question about Underload's name
< 1761994899 371436 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ais523: thanks!
< 1761994905 387553 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on underload
< 1761994908 627065 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1761994927 68290 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it still tc if (x) pushes (x) not just x
< 1761994980 339626 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: so writing (x)^^^^^^ would be equivalent to just writing (x)?
< 1761994991 299085 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how does * work in this version?
< 1761995028 97760 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :here it would be the underload subset ()^:
< 1761995061 796603 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually
< 1761995067 671175 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no it isnt tc
< 1761995084 751608 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since you can never run what is within ()
< 1761995108 10089 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no actually
< 1761995132 869567 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, if * doesn't interact with () you have no way to ever see the inside of a ()
< 1761995142 332527 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if (x) pushes (x) but also runs x immeaditly
< 1761995198 796120 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK I can't immediately figure that one out
< 1761995214 352006 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1761995217 687374 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm
< 1761995230 11606 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats actually quite the interesting puzzle lol
< 1761995245 896610 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's quite similar to "(x) pushes x but also runs x immediately" because ! exists
< 1761995254 361189 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, I haven't come up with a direct correspondence yet
< 1761995265 791641 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1761995274 353339 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmmmmm
> 1761995364 589721 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RusLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167093 5* 03Esoboring ideas 5* (+3034) 10Created page with "RusLang is an [[esoteric programming language]] for having no latin letters the letters are cylirric (functions are an exception) it was created by me for my sister (i am ~~~~) ==Description== ===Original=== RusLang        4-!  3 :,  .   ,..."
> 1761995373 413812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167094&oldid=167056 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+21) 10/* Etymology? */
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< 1761995434 427203 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the esolang ive made, and am trying to prove tc, always does ^, unless its a copy command
> 1761995609 40910 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RusLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167096&oldid=167093 5* 03Esoboring ideas 5* (+206) 10
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> 1761996059 938708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167099&oldid=167098 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+21) 10
> 1761996222 603003 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RusLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167100&oldid=167096 5* 03Ais523 5* (-81) 10do not hide the User: on links to userspace
< 1761997084 391507 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there a way to push a single ( to the stack in underlay?
< 1761997087 711509 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*underload
< 1761997130 814483 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually thats not needed
< 1761997132 311247 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry
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> 1761997642 437396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167101&oldid=167099 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-208) 10
> 1761997894 321518 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167102&oldid=167101 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+26) 10
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> 1761998203 405152 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RusLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167104&oldid=167100 5* 03Esoboring ideas 5* (+881) 10
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> 1761999031 510060 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167106&oldid=167105 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-10) 10
> 1761999089 632762 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167107&oldid=167106 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+104) 10
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> 1761999247 372804 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167109&oldid=167108 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+34) 10
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> 1762000977 284312 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pythonable RusLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167110 5* 03Esoboring ideas 5* (+771) 10Created page with "Pythonable RusLang is a version of [[RusLang]] that can be easily turned in a python code ==warning== It is only the junior-medium dialect ==the syntax== ===The important rule=== The right side of an equal sign can have as many functions as someone wan
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< 1762001105 326207 :pool!~nathan@user/PoolloverNathan QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
> 1762001133 406328 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RusLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167111&oldid=167104 5* 03Esoboring ideas 5* (+22) 10
< 1762001232 6560 :pool!~nathan@user/PoolloverNathan JOIN #esolangs PoolloverNathan :nathan
> 1762001399 900369 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167112&oldid=167109 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-33) 10
< 1762001590 25143 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523, I was just wondering how the rewriting system was created? because im trying to make one myself, and im a little unsure on how to do it lol.
< 1762001601 700017 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which rewriting system?
< 1762001633 580560 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh oops
< 1762001641 940338 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :underload's
< 1762001650 735651 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you mean the interpreter?
< 1762001691 459221 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like the `(x)(y)~ -> (y)(x)` for example
< 1762001715 360056 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that's fairly easy to do by hand
< 1762001723 498195 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for each command, you start by working out how much stack it uses
< 1762001733 404513 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1762001742 184754 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :write commands that generate that much stack using clearly different values
< 1762001748 245868 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :write the command you're trying to demonstrate
< 1762001757 124386 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1762001759 110545 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then interpret it in your head until you end up with a stack that doesn't execute any more
< 1762001767 699813 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok!
< 1762001770 679426 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks!
< 1762001774 508733 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for most concatenative languages this is very easy
< 1762001785 359707 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(you can construct languages where it's difficult but people normally don't)
< 1762001790 879422 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i assume you can just use a stack pushing command to represent thee stack
< 1762001795 779505 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep
< 1762001800 540649 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k!
< 1762001803 380027 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanku
> 1762001916 46719 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167113&oldid=167112 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-1) 10
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> 1762001971 382443 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Its random14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167114 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+445) 10Created page with "Its random is a language by [[User:Esolangist]]. ==Commands== <pre>& - Does whatever it wants to.</pre> ==Examples== Quick note that all of these might not always work. ===[[Hello world]]=== <pre>&</pre> ===[[Cat program]]=== <pre>&</pre> ===[[Truth-machine]]=== <p
< 1762002061 36575 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it possible to do for a queue btw+
< 1762002063 136248 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*?
> 1762002079 422315 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RusLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167115&oldid=167111 5* 03Esoboring ideas 5* (+442) 10
< 1762002101 976861 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could maybe expand the notation for a queue? but it would look quite different
> 1762002108 77147 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RusLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167116&oldid=167115 5* 03Esoboring ideas 5* (+0) 10
< 1762002129 161668 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the way to think about it is that in stack-based languages, you can do things that run locally without the rest of the program mattering
< 1762002130 441035 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but its still doable. great!
< 1762002141 841152 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yea
< 1762002145 776639 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you can say, in Underload, that (x)(y)~ is always equivalent to (y)(x)
< 1762002155 328781 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in queue-based languages, the contents of the queue always matter
< 1762002176 996471 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so local reasoning doesn't really work, except in trivial cases where you don't use the queue
< 1762002201 556919 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true...
< 1762002203 297053 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmmmm
< 1762002213 258102 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(in particular, commands that enqueue won't provide data to the command that comes after them unless the queue is empty)
< 1762002229 857531 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* Yayimhere internally screaming for making her esolang queue based
< 1762002246 937141 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I might actually just change it, cuz it makes the language so much harder use
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> 1762004032 159577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unlambda to Underflow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167121&oldid=167065 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+10) 10/* Translation */
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> 1762005473 795525 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RaiseAfloppaFan3925/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167124&oldid=166650 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+3883) 10RSI0
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< 1762005971 493140 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::o
< 1762005986 733432 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it literally told me that someone edited my article
> 1762006038 187410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07You make the esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167128&oldid=167127 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+90) 10Adding Categories
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< 1762006648 199425 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there a good method for reversing a translation? like if ive gone SKI -> smth else is there a semi easy/good way to make a smth -> SKI translation?
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< 1762006777 454862 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :usually no, unless the translation is simple
< 1762006818 17487 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aw:(
< 1762006839 147017 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if the translated-from and translated-to languages have different computational classes it's impossible
< 1762006861 29151 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if they're in the same class, then by definition it's possible, but in many cases it's very difficult
< 1762006868 358007 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1762006874 457756 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for me its the latter
< 1762006875 306574 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. it is much easier to translate brainfuck to Python than it is to translate Python to brainfuck
< 1762006954 717444 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1762006974 242696 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for me its like not that bad
< 1762006991 100501 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its two stack based languages
< 1762007017 697788 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ofc underload is one half
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> 1762007825 85112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167141&oldid=167140 5* 03Esolangist 5* (-1) 10TINY tweak.
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> 1762008236 476387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167145 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+218) 10Created page with "==Float or no float?== Can the pointer float on nothing, like empty spaces are NOPs, or do you have to always be on a command? ~~~~"
> 1762008295 438674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167146&oldid=167144 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+150) 10Make two of [[User:Esolangist]]'s commands part of the base set
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> 1762008313 185099 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SLet/navbar14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167147 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+146) 10Created page with "<b><big> [[SLet (Old)|1]] | [[SLet (Old 2)|2]] | [[SLet (Old 3)|3]] | [[SLet|4]] | <span style="color:red;">5</span> | [[SletScript|6]] </big></b>"
> 1762008342 738669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SLet (Old)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167148&oldid=152608 5* 03I am islptng 5* (-42) 10
> 1762008352 776854 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SLet (Old 2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167149&oldid=157826 5* 03I am islptng 5* (-58) 10
> 1762008361 794860 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SLet (Old 3)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167150&oldid=152980 5* 03I am islptng 5* (-52) 10
> 1762008371 717549 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SLet14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167151&oldid=161993 5* 03I am islptng 5* (-58) 10
> 1762008382 894212 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SletScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167152&oldid=164982 5* 03I am islptng 5* (-33) 10
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< 1762008452 458036 :Esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is anyone online
< 1762008461 783034 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Esolangist: i am
< 1762008467 616824 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you need?
< 1762008473 292738 :Esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nothing
< 1762008480 749646 :Esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just seeing if anyone was online
< 1762008484 79015 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
> 1762008505 401036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167153&oldid=167145 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+246) 10
> 1762008701 129942 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167154&oldid=167146 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+95) 10fixed minor issue with the heading thing
> 1762008751 692345 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167155&oldid=167154 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+198) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762008999 436574 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167156&oldid=167153 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+394) 10/* Float or no float? */
> 1762009145 83865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SLet/navbar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167157&oldid=167147 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+11) 10
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< 1762010025 640997 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`olist 1335
< 1762010028 455324 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1335.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo boily nortti b_jonas Noisytoot
> 1762010766 498045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07EternalGolf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167161&oldid=167160 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+352) 10/* Basic area */
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> 1762012798 607435 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FAGI14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167162&oldid=165095 5* 03Lucaz37 5* (-8) 10
> 1762012866 674570 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lucaz3714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167163 5* 03Lucaz37 5* (+4) 10Created page with "ello"
> 1762013200 677056 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167164&oldid=167155 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (-4) 10/* Base commands */ Fixed naming inconsistency
< 1762013960 881901 :Esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nobody is editing on the wiki...
< 1762014028 317594 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Esolangist: I would, but im not sure how to better formalize my language
> 1762014130 599548 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Aadenboy 5*  10moved [[02Lucaz3710]] to [[User:Lucaz37]]: assuming this is meant to be in userspace
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> 1762015124 889216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dango14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167167&oldid=167126 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+122) 10fixed minor issues
> 1762015144 320498 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dango14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167168&oldid=167167 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (-141) 10
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> 1762015949 839168 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Lucaz3710]]": redirect left over after a page created in the wrong namespace was renamed to the correct namespace
> 1762015976 442027 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 restore10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10undeleted "[[02User:Lucaz3710]]": deleted the wrong page
> 1762016000 895196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Lucaz3710]]": redirect left over after a page created in the wrong namespace was renamed to the correct namespace
< 1762016203 606632 :Esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is the featured language on the wiki still this
< 1762016208 715332 :Esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thue*
< 1762016218 237093 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they rarely change it
< 1762016226 625347 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dunno why they just wont change it
< 1762016235 906260 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not enough admins
< 1762016260 716618 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's like, the other admins came up with a process and then disappeared
< 1762016274 31021 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it's hard for me to make selections fairly on my own
< 1762016284 658888 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you the only mod
< 1762016288 825434 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :?
< 1762016291 566632 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in theory no
< 1762016306 55192 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in practice it's very rare for anyone else to take admin actions
< 1762016316 86348 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats kinda sad
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> 1762016770 206186 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167169&oldid=167164 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+649) 10"Hello, world!" program + 2 new commands
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< 1762016994 858052 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine
> 1762017090 133090 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167170&oldid=167169 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+14) 10/* Base commands */ Re-organized top and made it reflect the new changes
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> 1762017510 588120 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RaiseAfloppaFan392514]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167171&oldid=167055 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+697) 10
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> 1762018331 95668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Esolangist14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167173&oldid=167119 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+194) 10
> 1762018345 525274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RaiseAfloppaFan392514]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167174&oldid=167172 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+0) 10/* "Hello, world!" in RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 0 */ Corrected the program
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> 1762018717 867593 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167175&oldid=167170 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+454) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762018875 71950 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167176&oldid=167175 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (-50) 10Changed hypnotization resistance stat to decrease faster
> 1762019056 163523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167177&oldid=167176 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+91) 10Nerfed the two commands that made the most sense to nerf
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> 1762019286 236242 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167178&oldid=167177 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+881) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762019366 222762 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167179&oldid=167178 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+81) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762019375 286181 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167180&oldid=167179 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+209) 10/* Base Specification */ Added smaller "Hello, world!" example
> 1762019432 412766 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Michael Bianconi 5*  10New user account
> 1762019577 215732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167181&oldid=167180 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+334) 10/* Hypnotization resistance */
> 1762019583 263501 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167182&oldid=167181 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+0) 10/* Base Specification */ Fixed conflict with a command from [[User:Esolangist]]
> 1762019653 946515 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167183&oldid=167022 5* 03Michael Bianconi 5* (+156) 10
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> 1762019778 497472 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167184&oldid=167182 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+2) 10Changed a command to avoid command conflicts
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> 1762020022 385220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167185&oldid=167184 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+116) 10/* User:Esolangist */
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> 1762020289 141928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167186&oldid=167185 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+39) 10/* Hello, world! */ Added new example
> 1762020524 601074 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167187&oldid=167186 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+211) 10
> 1762020807 667799 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167188&oldid=167187 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+148) 10/* User:Esolangist's little chat corner */ Sure, just give me one moment
> 1762020850 491742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167189&oldid=167188 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+54) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762021152 424706 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167190&oldid=167189 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+224) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762021278 315399 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167191&oldid=167156 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+456) 10/* Turing-complete? */ new section
> 1762021589 152516 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167192&oldid=167190 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+116) 10
> 1762021655 973408 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167193&oldid=167191 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+350) 10/* Turing-complete? */ I was not expecting that AT ALL
> 1762021794 175851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167194&oldid=167192 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+29) 10Added category
> 1762021847 78419 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Esolangist14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167195&oldid=167173 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+46) 10
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> 1762022136 811589 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167196&oldid=167194 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+180) 10/* Hey here's some examples! */
> 1762022273 430979 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167197&oldid=167196 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+75) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762022447 941353 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167198&oldid=167197 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+192) 10/* alternated */
> 1762022521 461460 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167199&oldid=167198 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+1811) 104 new boring unoriginal commands + CJK category + Self-modifying category
> 1762022611 729569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167200&oldid=167199 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+212) 10/* User:Esolangist's little chat corner */ yea im out of ideas
> 1762023323 57035 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167201&oldid=167200 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+793) 10/* User:Esolangist */
> 1762023625 77454 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baulk14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167202 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+2850) 10Created page with "'''Baulk''' was an attempt to by [[User:yayimhere]] create a functionally pure esolang, that does not place its basis within [[Lambda calculus]]. it came out to be a ''sort of'' string rewriting language, however the string rewriting is a lot more complex than 
< 1762023726 942943 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: i have a last question for you. how would you do the stack notation thing in reverse?
< 1762023734 401957 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there a good way to do that
< 1762023739 37068 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what are you reversing?
< 1762023746 899119 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1762023757 237173 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you know for example with the rewriting system of underload
< 1762023769 522606 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if we just had the rewriting system, could we do it in reverse
< 1762023776 601973 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :create a stack based language
< 1762023789 802562 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, the rewriting system is a way of defining a stack-based language
< 1762023790 223748 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from a rewriting systeem
< 1762023822 24025 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because if it's done correctly, you can use it directly as a language interpreter, and then you can use the interpreter to define the language
< 1762023829 466984 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1762023836 166591 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :python be like
< 1762023837 363255 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1762023855 280474 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I had this: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Baulk and I wanted to make a stack based language from it:]
< 1762023875 874714 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do you have naming ideas for it
< 1762023876 512391 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that reminds me, I don't think I've seen a pure rewrite-rule-based definition of an esolang in ages
< 1762023896 898629 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
> 1762023904 680741 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baulk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167203&oldid=167202 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+1) 10/* = Basic operation application */
< 1762023933 974514 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: idk what got into me lol
< 1762023944 477936 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i was tiree of working with lambda calculus I gueess
< 1762023946 556399 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, this isn't pure stack-based
< 1762023946 657130 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*gueess
< 1762023950 459713 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*guess
< 1762023953 29764 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holee
< 1762023959 857126 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :~ pushes to the *bottom* of the stack which you can't do with an normal stack
< 1762023965 17157 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :truee
< 1762023972 482069 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :omg my keyboard being dummb
< 1762024001 457904 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :first in first out / last out I guess
< 1762024004 718457 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there like...
< 1762024011 477843 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a data type called that?
< 1762024012 309294 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :question for baulk: does the *[x] = *[x x] mean that it infinitely duplicates like *2 > *22 > *2222?
< 1762024021 495738 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and commands like ` are usually hard to define precisely, because they mess with control flow – normally you run the next command in the program but if it's ` it gets stuck
< 1762024031 795593 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so presumably you have to run the next-but-one instead
< 1762024042 685441 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WAIT WHAT HOW DO YOU DO A CODE FONT
< 1762024045 102245 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :have you seen Unlambda? it has a d command that's very wimilar to baulk's `
< 1762024054 435310 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on IRC, you can't
< 1762024056 157869 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea ive seen unlambda
< 1762024067 538531 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although ive only read the ones used on underload
< 1762024070 125625 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but your IRC client is probably interpreting backquotes as code font; `does this appear in code font for you?`
< 1762024075 298446 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1762024080 983052 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`cool`
< 1762024084 540394 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool`? No such file or directory
< 1762024088 276436 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, so this is going to make it awkward to send messages using backquotes as backquotes
< 1762024096 332866 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hackeso im not talking to you
< 1762024100 282678 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea its a problem I have
< 1762024121 782695 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unlambda's c and d were both added primarily due to being hard to implement
< 1762024139 299008 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe use %  instead of ` so it doesn't turn into `code font`
< 1762024156 760508 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i was trying to visually get objects that are up
> 1762024160 384856 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167204&oldid=167201 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+48) 10
> 1762024174 144516 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167205&oldid=167204 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (-34) 10/* Base Commands */ oops
< 1762024174 881237 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like ^ is up compared to the [] and ¯ is too
< 1762024205 899153 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea d and ` are basically the same
< 1762024221 123235 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea you guys just use % lol
< 1762024226 446186 :Hoolooboo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org NICK :Hooloovoo
> 1762024235 116133 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167206&oldid=167205 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+224) 10/* User:Esolangist's little chat corner */
> 1762024283 655793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167207&oldid=167206 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+155) 10/* User:Esolangist's little chat corner */
< 1762024329 17494 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but rlly
< 1762024337 497432 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is a first In last in ou called?
< 1762024360 908477 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats a Deque right?
< 1762024371 142852 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a deque has pushes on both ends and pops from both ends
< 1762024380 347040 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :trueeeee
< 1762024392 418046 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does this ever pop from the bottom?
< 1762024413 866182 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I use the three-operation structure (push on both ends but pop only from one) in Esimpl, where I call it a semideque
< 1762024421 292946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think the technical name is "output-restricted deque"
< 1762024437 85026 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lets just say semideque lol
< 1762024440 457682 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it makes sense:]
< 1762024441 404049 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's just that that name's too long to use regularly, so it helps to give a shorter name, right
< 1762024452 809854 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep
< 1762024489 908605 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this is also the most powerful data structure you can easily make with a singly-linked list, which might not be coincidence – Esimpl's designed to be easy to implement efficiently in low-powered languages and so it's not surprising that its main data structure is easy to implement)
< 1762024508 259428 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh!
< 1762024510 876988 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didnt know
< 1762024519 277326 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the moreeee you knooooow
< 1762024520 397459 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
> 1762024604 964198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167208&oldid=167113 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+254) 10
< 1762024672 84844 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I have to leave:]
< 1762024678 137287 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks for the help tho!
< 1762024680 909198 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :byeeee
> 1762024693 677864 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167209&oldid=167207 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+120) 10/* User:Esolangist's little chat corner */
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> 1762024866 300289 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167210&oldid=167209 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+0) 10/* Base Commands */ Fixed conflict
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> 1762025242 889985 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167213&oldid=167211 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+84) 10/* User:Esolangist */
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> 1762025373 339082 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RSI0/Esolangist14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167215 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+56) 10Redirected page to [[RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 0/Esolangist]]
> 1762025415 731676 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167216&oldid=167213 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+141) 10
> 1762026085 110897 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167217&oldid=167216 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+710) 10Added special conditional operation
> 1762026172 105232 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167218&oldid=167217 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (-174) 10/* Base Commands */ Removed obsolete <code>=[</code> and <code>]=</code> commands
> 1762026209 823214 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167219&oldid=167218 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+60) 10/* Truth machine */
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> 1762026992 62646 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167220&oldid=167219 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+24) 10Set [[User:Esolangist]] as co-owner of RSI0
> 1762027041 13087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 0/Esolangist14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167221&oldid=167214 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+231) 10how do I summarise this
> 1762027135 214295 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167222&oldid=167220 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+73) 10
> 1762027467 929584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167223&oldid=167193 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+395) 10BF to RSI0 translation
> 1762027553 563164 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167224&oldid=167222 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+22) 10One last time.
> 1762027654 875257 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167225&oldid=167224 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (-34) 10/* Base Commands */ Forgot to remove this
> 1762027876 510531 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 0/Esolangist14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167226&oldid=167221 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+251) 10Esolangist alt
> 1762028021 122564 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167227&oldid=167225 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (-4) 10Edited code so it ACTUALLY WORKS
> 1762028112 671187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167228&oldid=167223 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+257) 10/* Turing-complete? */ Correction + whatever you call this
> 1762028202 402521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167229&oldid=167228 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+147) 10/* Joke thread */ new section
> 1762029138 422283 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Topple14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167230&oldid=166961 5* 03H33T33 5* (+38) 10
> 1762029153 571784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Topple14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167231&oldid=167230 5* 03H33T33 5* (-28) 10
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> 1762029641 776892 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167233&oldid=167227 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+267) 10Truth machine + XKCD random (translated)
> 1762029727 461422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03H33T33 5*  10moved [[02Topple/Source Code/Topple 1.010]] to [[Topple/Versions/Topple]]: Entirely reorganizing the Topple page
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> 1762030252 168515 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Topple/Topple 1/Source14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167241 5* 03H33T33 5* (+7870) 10Created page with "=Topple 1 Source Code= <pre> #include <stdio.h> #include <string.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <time.h> #include <sys/time.h>  #define MAX_SIZE 4097   // Max amount of vals, vars, etc. Currently the best way I know to do this.  #defin
> 1762030440 378665 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RaiseAfloppaFan's Stupid Idea 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167242&oldid=167233 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+726) 10BF to RSI0 translation table
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< 1762065543 131024 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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< 1762065632 662049 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi APic!
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> 1762099231 430879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167334&oldid=166044 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1574) 10Infobox proglang; rewrite opening for context, history, clarity, and humor, as well as to remove some untruths and memes; references; grammar. The blockquote is so well-attested in the community that I feel uncomfortable giving it citations, but I've done so, going back to 1993; 
> 1762099524 410908 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167335&oldid=167334 5* 03Corbin 5* (-4) 10[[Self]] is currently a joke language, not the actual research language. Ironic, given that Self is quite esoteric and the joke language is so facile.
> 1762099724 423186 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pseudocode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167336&oldid=156046 5* 03Corbin 5* (+298) 10Quick simple explanation of a concept. Reuses a blanked page. Stop blanking pages, folks. Maybe take a day before creating a page to reflect on whether it's a good idea?
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> 1762100494 291081 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gurling14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167337&oldid=167331 5* 03Skyraiderr5 5* (+135) 10Added documentation for a small lib
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> 1762100549 893648 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07B2B to ,(*+)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167338&oldid=167298 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-1219) 10Blanked the page
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< 1762101447 618496 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: Could you explain your reasoning regarding the block request?
< 1762101490 464696 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: unname has tried to edit the commands of my esolang quite a bit, so I'd like that they just arent able to do that
< 1762101501 780337 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have *no* idea why but they just kept doing it
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< 1762101588 282802 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: Write down the specification anywhere else. Write an interpreter. Put up a Web page that specifies it.
< 1762101626 545200 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: yes, but for me, its still annoying to uphold that page
< 1762101640 284168 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(im not asking for a block on anything else, just one that specific page)
< 1762101660 918961 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: Well, by what standard are your edits the correct ones and their edits the incorrect ones?
< 1762101682 298806 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Asking for a slight overreach is still asking for an overreach.)
< 1762101784 646513 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: its my language, and as such, I know what is correct and what is not
< 1762101825 285113 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I would not consider it an overreach, but maybe im wrong)
< 1762102010 603099 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It would be completely unreasonable on a larger wiki. It could be a solution to an edit war, were one to occur.
< 1762102034 327131 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1762102062 99027 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Quoting site policy, "Articles on languages you made yourself are encouraged, unlike for example Wikipedia. However, these may still be mercilessly edited by others. In most cases this is a good thing."
< 1762102132 311677 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You agree to release your articles here to the public domain. If you want to describe a language and have it show up in search results, *and* not be edited by others here to be different from your description, then you need some *additional* documentation for your language hosted somewhere else. This is a very very weak version of the notability requirement; I'm saying that we need some external source by which to judge articles.
< 1762102148 848405 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1762102236 70971 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If your language is still WIP and it's going to take you a while to finish, then moving it to be under your user namespace would be a reasonable compromise; the policy is that each user is entitled to their own user pages (and that's why the policy discourages editing each other's user pages!)
< 1762102254 198911 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1762102258 20250 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1762102276 245999 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mostly do not have a place to put my external recourses
< 1762102300 186478 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :atleast not one that is online and so accessable to others on the web
< 1762102300 553913 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Lucky 10000: neocities.org
< 1762102307 128614 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
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< 1762102355 141437 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But, again, at your age, you're not expected to be producing new languages. Certainly not producing dozens of languages/year. You're expected to be studying and learning. There's nothing wrong with experimenting, but you should be aware that experiments documented on the wiki are documented in the public domain.
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< 1762102368 764696 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1762102371 260146 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks!
< 1762102435 269870 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i assume "expected" does not mean "should not")
< 1762102457 214174 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, no problem. I remember being your age and utterly delighted by Geocities, the site which inspired Neocities. It's a good first step. Be sure to read the terms of service; there *are* rules for using other peoples' sites. If you want fewer rules then you'll have to host it yourself, which might require you to be a legal adult first.
< 1762102473 658744 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1762102484 61291 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should propably read up one rules more
< 1762102494 697982 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I am not telling you what to do. I'm telling you what the rules are, including the rules of society. I think that you should do whatever you want! But I also often think that people should modify their desires.)
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< 1762104644 858896 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is Python good for?
< 1762104791 819291 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: What is Python good for?
< 1762104792 329072 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: greece is going through bad times that is why my group is at the centre of the eu member states, but i promise to propose this plan. that is why and this is the custom with human rights.
> 1762104827 79061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Python is excellent for a wide range of tasks due to its versatility and ease of use. It excels in web development, data science, machine learning, scripting, and automation. Its extensive libraries and beginner-friendly syntax make it ideal for rapid prototyping and development. Python's cross-platform compatibility and strong community support...
> 1762104827 79666 PRIVMSG #esolangs :further enhance its appeal.
< 1762104854 333768 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's pretty good. Could be pre-canned instead of RAG though.
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< 1762105609 640373 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is the last time im asking this(if ive asked it before, I have bad memory), but can anyone reccomend a good language to prove this tc(please not a cyclic tag system though, I tried): https://esolangs.org/wiki/,(*%2B)
< 1762106013 314381 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's marked as unusable for programming and there's no reference interpreter. I don't know how the language is supposed to behave.
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< 1762106062 990074 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I put unusable for programming on most of my esolangs, for the reason they arent useful for very high level things,
< 1762106073 203367 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, is BCT really that usable?
< 1762106078 170497 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for example
> 1762106115 305106 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167348&oldid=164803 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+159) 10/* Name */
< 1762106124 79633 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: note that I often do warn people for editing commands into other people's languages – the pages are meant to describe the language, and changing the page normally doesn't change the language in its creator's mind, so it's just makign the page inaccurate
< 1762106191 591149 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I'm willing to accept that, but in this particular case I genuinely couldn't tell what the original page is supposed to look like. I'm also unclear on whether there's other chats influencing the edits.
< 1762106234 305160 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: to answer your second question, me and unname have never talked to each other before this
< 1762106252 435687 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've tried to be fairly conservative in my own edits to joke languages. Many of them are poorly worded, but does improving the wording make the joke worse? Or better?
< 1762106261 362274 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION can't do a good Invader Zim voice
< 1762106300 300513 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1762106308 730188 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* lol²
< 1762106323 366046 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: Okay. Then, for the future, the standard wiki convention is that you can revert their edits. It helps if you add to the notes for the revert to say *what they got wrong*. One wrong edit means one revert.
< 1762106337 950598 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: ok
< 1762106362 298615 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :An **edit war** is when they revert your revert, or do something equivalent. At that point, take a step back to cool off and consider asking somebody with more experience to step in.
< 1762106374 866800 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1762106514 691583 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BTW, in general, edit notes are good. You can look at regular editors like https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ais523 or https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/B_jonas to get a sense of how often they're used. Talk pages don't need it much (because you can just read the talk page) and on WP it's actually kind of rude!
< 1762106535 506551 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WP?
< 1762106536 918663 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And then there are some *freaks* like https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Corbin ~)
< 1762106563 243453 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :me? I usually don't make good edit comments
< 1762106601 693322 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WP is Wikipedia. Usually English Wikipedia, but also Wikipedia in general. English WP's rules aren't binding but they are very good conventions that scale up to thousands of editors and millions of articles.
< 1762106670 825037 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1762106721 297945 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(BTW, I think of myself as fairly precocious, but I didn't start editing English WP until I was maybe 16 or 17; it's okay to still be learning about wiki culture.)
< 1762106738 10036 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::].
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< 1762107454 772566 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, korvo, on the "no reference implementation" thing, does there need to be one? ive seen a whole lot of esolangs where it makes perfect sense but does not have a (atleast not a reference) implementation. if any command descriptions are unclear however, I'd like to know! because I want my documentation to be clear
< 1762107526 11656 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: If there's a complete specification, or even a half-complete specification, then no, a reference implementation might not exist anymore. Usually this means that one was built in the past, but it has been retired. An example is [[Game of Life]].
< 1762107574 797508 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, in those cases, we offer the `majorimpl` tag IIRC, in {{infobox proglang}}, so that we can link to major implementations. This can also be used if there's popular competing implementations, as with CPython and PyPy on [[Python]].
< 1762107651 582651 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :At some level, though, we only write languages so that we can express ourselves on the computer. We *want* implementations. Historically, languages like Lisp or APL started as blackboard notation for teaching, and the students wanted to use that notation on computers, so they implemented Lisp and APL for themselves!
< 1762107706 736134 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like, you can still compute them. in fact ive done stuff manually a whole lot of times
< 1762107726 899659 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that is not *just* me, Alan turing didnt program his chess machine
< 1762107728 961888 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :On a practical level, I think that *every* language I've authored has started as some script named something like test.py, and slowly become something like cammy.py and then cammy/main.py and then cammy/cammylib/cam.py, all *before* becoming an article like [[Cammy]]. The implementation comes first; the wiki page is just how I share what I built with the community.
< 1762107761 106794 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: to me, that just seems like differences in creating esolangs
< 1762107774 901846 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. There are languages on the wiki that challenge those concepts; [[Unary]] is interesting for complexity theory, [[Sammy]] is interesting for category theory, etc. But those languages were written down by mathematicians trying to prove something about maths itself, not about computers.
< 1762107846 587654 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: Well, what else does "programming language" mean? "esolang" is short for the full phrase, "esoteric programming language", not just esoteric languages in general. For example, I speak Lojban and could write an article about it, but Lojban isn't a programming language, even though it's esoteric enough that people have only vaguely heard of it.
< 1762107890 871095 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: what? like yea its a programming language, just one that currently has to be computed manually
< 1762107984 103699 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: There's no difference between manual and automatic computation. The machine is merely faster, not more capable. That's Turing's whole point about machines.
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< 1762108023 435732 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: yea, so I dont get what the issue with there being no reference implementation
< 1762108037 64886 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have to leave anyways
< 1762108044 746493 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but interesting conversation anyways
< 1762108047 497645 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries. Peace.
< 1762108057 620780 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Peace!
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< 1762112691 739712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :A 1961 book distinguishes "compiler" by "assembler" as assemblers not having macros. Since IBM 1401 Autocoder has macros that expand to multiple machine instructions, it's a compiler and not an assembler
< 1762112692 274149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/1401/A_Guide_to_1401_Programming_1961.pdf
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< 1762113169 631221 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi, i have 3 questions/notes regarding https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_speed_test : 1. it says "Each interepreter runs dbfi which ..." but the dbfi link has link to the original dbfi but shows code of cgbfi. so does it use the original dbfi or cgbfi? (also, both of them have a faster v2). 2. at the "execution argument" of the table, most of them are "type program.b | .\dbfi", however, this doesn't work in neither the original dbfi nor cgbfi, because both
< 1762113169 658337 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs : of them require the program to end in "!", but the test program doesn't end in "!", so either the program or the execution arguments are incorrect. 3. bffsree_gcc is indeed very fast, and is available to download at the "bffsree" link, however, i don't think the source code in that page is for "bffsree_gcc". i think the source is an older (and slower) version, while the download binary of bffsree_gcc is for newer version without source code. so i think it 
< 1762113169 658384 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :should be noted someplace, or alternatively, test with bssfree which was compiled from the available source.
< 1762113364 213327 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bffsree*
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< 1762113955 3435 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, this test program completes very quickly with optimizing interpreters/compilers, to the point where it's hard to measure meaningfully (startup overhead, etc), and additionally different interpreters excel at different things, so the test results are not necessarily representative in the grand scheme of things IMO, and it could be useful to have another test case.
< 1762114281 259527 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's not mentioned, but usually it's also useful to disable cpu "turbo boost" to limit the frequency so that all programs are measured with the same cpu frequency without cpu throttling.
< 1762114363 890973 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Thanks for looking at this. These pages definitely are a little messy and outdated.
< 1762114451 402187 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: thanks. well, not necessarily outdated as such, but more like some things are unclear (which dbfi was actually used), and some just can't be right (no "!" at the test program or execution args)...
< 1762114557 441300 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the bffsree/gcc thing is interesting. i was sure the source is available, till i looked at it and read the pages carefully, when i realized that i don't think it is available.
< 1762114787 634592 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wouldn't have minded so much, except that it's listed as fastest, 3x faster than the 2nd best, so source availability is important here IMO
< 1762114795 288330 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(bffsree)
< 1762114796 177540 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :FWIW the fastest options are the JITs; the fastest one that I got working is the GNU Lightning version, followed in second place by my RPython interpreter. The AOT compilers do an alright job but they're working uphill.
< 1762114847 904403 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :correct. though i also have an interpreter (no jit etc), which is only about 3x slower than jit
< 1762114864 874425 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and typically faster than bffsree_gcc too)
< 1762114921 655533 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, wow. So I hadn't actually *read* this page. This is a Windows-only page!
< 1762114962 378626 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was tested on windows, yes
< 1762114966 798080 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The fastest interpreter I've tested on NixOS (Linux) is http://lvogel.free.fr/bf.html in GNU Lightning, followed in second place by mine https://github.com/rpypkgs/rpypkgs/blob/main/bf/bf.py in RPython.
< 1762114996 297955 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :have you tried https://github.com/rdebath/Brainfuck ? the jit one is pretty sweet.
< 1762115007 276449 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i only tested on windows though)
< 1762115057 164109 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :looking now into your links. i don't think i've seen them before. thanks.
< 1762115133 492010 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: but if it uses Lightning, then it's not really an interpreter as such, right? it basically generates source and compiles it on the fly.
< 1762115151 571602 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Tritium? It's a lot of code and a big achievement. However, it's very verbose and takes a while to get to the good stuff. My interpreter's not even 300 lines, and it could be shorter if I golfed it but I wanted it to be readable. There's also an explanatory post about compiler design that goes into details: https://pypy.org/posts/2024/11/guest-post-final-encoding-in-rpython.html
< 1762115185 140679 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Tritium" ?
< 1762115193 372241 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not sure what that means)
< 1762115238 910999 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: GNU Lightning interprets bytecode for an imaginary CPU (the Lightning CPU, I guess?) and the JIT merely is a way of speeding that up, but the library includes a full emulator for that CPU too.
< 1762115264 75541 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right.
< 1762115282 284187 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but at least it's not an interpreter in the classic sense :)
< 1762115296 972580 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not that it matters to the user though...
< 1762115311 842552 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :except maybe harder to build.
< 1762115323 25928 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :An interpreter can have any internal structure. What matters is the effects that it performs.
< 1762115340 274574 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure
< 1762115406 333830 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but then, you could also call this an interpreter: "bf2c < prog.b | gcc -O2 -xc - -o tmp && ./tmp && rm tmp"
< 1762115440 459947 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :My shell doesn't have `bf2c` or `gcc` as builtins?
< 1762115480 941215 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, bf2c IS the thing you could call an interpreter, and it has a gcc dependency, just like other interpreters might have lightning as dependency
< 1762115542 83869 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh! Sure. Or, more pointedly, x86 is an interpreter.
< 1762115545 212558 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think we both understand eachother. these are just semantics.
< 1762115585 586117 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, yes. But semantics, also called effects, are what matter.
< 1762115586 549020 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but anyway, looking now at your links. i wanna try them :)
< 1762115624 940194 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :RPython might be preferable in this regard, or at least it might challenge your concept of dependency. Here's the ldd for bf.py: https://bpa.st/ZJLA
< 1762115631 900667 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( so much up for interpretation )
< 1762115637 748986 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :semantics matters to clarify the intent behind the words, but we both know what it means, just not necessarily how to call it :)
< 1762115690 207102 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's RPython? (i'm not really a python guy, more shell and c guy)
< 1762115702 75567 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: No, seriously, you're so close to seeing something really big. What if we could take an interpreter and somehow *specialize* it for a particular input? Then that would be equivalent to compiling the input, *and* we might be able to optimize the result.
< 1762115730 654118 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This leads to Futamura projections, which are what we get when we have specializers and we start applying them to interpreters and other programs.
< 1762115733 777227 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :RPython
< 1762115749 39695 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Sec, reading your reply carefully...)
< 1762115790 462609 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*Sheesh. RPython is a frozen dialect of Python 2.7 that can be compiled into a C program. Optionally, it can add a JIT to that program. It was developed to build PyPy, a JIT interpreter for Python which is written in Python.
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< 1762115830 856130 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not familiar with "Futamura projections", but i do get the gist of what you're saying. however, i don't think i understand what it implies, or what i should take from that
< 1762115871 248868 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, I'm just not sure why JIT compilers aren't interpreters. They're very fancy interpreters, but they do interpret at runtime.
< 1762115891 207894 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i see, rpython is like turtles all the way down, just with jit and python :)
< 1762115930 279031 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :GNU Lightning has similar origins. It was isolated from GNU Smalltalk's JIT.
< 1762115982 432756 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: i already agreed :) it's fine. they might require a bit more effort to use/build compared to plain python or c, but otherwise true
< 1762115990 929229 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Indeed, the idea of JIT is attached to a Smalltalk offshoot called Self; this is the language that put the `self` keyword into Python, and it's also a big influence on ECMAScript. By no coincidence, the Self JIT folks went to work on JITs for ECMAScript and also to design JIT-friendly languages like Java.
< 1762115999 822391 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Interpreters to compilers are a spectrum. If you have an intermediate bytecode, is it still a pure interpreter ;)
< 1762116025 478499 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::)
< 1762116026 72199 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you allow bytecode, what if the bytecode format happens to match the machine's architecture ;)
< 1762116046 543984 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :all true :)
< 1762116068 799476 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Well, they do still make 6502 chips.
< 1762116103 690034 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k, time to look at these links. not sure i have the deps to use them, but we'll see.
< 1762116160 310527 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Laurent's code is likely easier to use than mine; I rely on having RPython already installed, or on the usage of a Unix package manager called "Nix", and neither are easy on Windows.
< 1762116227 277487 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have many unixes too, and i don't have nix or rppython installed on any
< 1762116246 213882 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not a problem per se, just i don't have them ready)
< 1762116295 375847 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: that's Laurent's, yes? http://lvogel.free.fr/bf.html
< 1762116314 716487 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. It worked last time I tried, maybe 3-4yrs ago.
< 1762116316 688546 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :What *I* personally am looking for in an interpreter is something that I can run programs with without producing extra garbage on my drive. Which is murky; Python tends to produce pyc files quite eagerly...
< 1762116353 528888 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(there's an environment variable to disable that)
< 1762116512 792738 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: i tried the windows binary, and it's fast, but about 1.4x slower than https://github.com/rdebath/Brainfuck and only about twice slower than my "pure" interpreter (i.e. no deps, just 1 small c file and stdio in libc)
< 1762116673 974040 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :twice faster* than my c interpreter (which is not online yet)
> 1762116771 443200 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction minimalization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167357&oldid=154633 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+1334) 10what
< 1762116874 175628 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but slower than the rdebath jit (Dynasm. it supports Gnu Lightning too, but not at the windows binary)
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< 1762117186 856249 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: most interpreters can produce reasonably good c code, so to avoid leftover on your drive, you could "some-bf2c < prog.b | tcc - -run"
< 1762117250 701925 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is typically faster than most interpreters, including the compilation time, but slower than jits
< 1762117266 910703 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :slower than non-jit interpreters :)
< 1762117296 278657 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or rather tcc -run -)
< 1762117397 650812 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn. faster than non-jit interpreters, but slower than jit interpreters... my brain is fucked...
< 1762117886 223321 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: re "i don't have bf2c as shell builtin", you could add this as a function to your (posix) shell rc file:
< 1762117888 168646 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :d=#define U=unsigned; echo "#include <stdio.h>@$U char t[65536];$U h;int c;
< 1762117888 219970 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :$d C t[h&65535]@$d R ++h;@$d L --h;@$d P ++C;@$d M --C;@$d W while(C) {@$d\
< 1762117888 220035 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs : E }@$d O putchar(C);@$d I c=getchar();C=c<0?C:c;@int main(void){"|tr @ \\n
< 1762117888 220047 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :s="][><,.+-";tr -cd $s|tr $s EWRLIOPM|fold -w1;echo ";return 0;}"    # avih
< 1762117904 721792 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this is the next version of https://github.com/avih/bf2c.sh )
< 1762117997 535741 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's 300 bytes shell bf2c)
< 1762118036 570792 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(zero optimizations, but i also have a 1k version which does RLE and balanced loops and tons of options. really super practical)
< 1762118108 148348 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(with a debugger too :) )
< 1762118488 380046 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
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< 1762118812 134630 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Nice.
< 1762118851 501149 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks :)
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< 1762120553 679710 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: bonus preview, comments are welcome :) https://0x0.st/KLVv.txt
< 1762120678 951210 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: can you mention in the description how overflow and underflow from + and - are handled? the description mentions that going off the tape from < and > is customizable, but a mode with no UB from -+ would also be useful
< 1762120719 745070 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: indeed, but it's unsigned int/short/char, so wraps both ways
< 1762120735 475300 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, just document that
< 1762120743 977983 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because I find this code not easily readable
< 1762120752 476779 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh!
< 1762120756 849374 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you do say it after "CELLTYPE"
< 1762120759 457775 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I See
< 1762120764 529219 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i do have it at the github page and my WIP comment, but i wrote this comment/usage just now, but you're right)
< 1762120765 299110 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry, I'm just blidn then
< 1762120808 848694 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, you could always look at teh generated c code ;) bf2c.sh < prog.b | less
< 1762120839 18112 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's actually clearer than the sh code, as it expands all the vars
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< 1762120903 718266 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: also, except for bugs, or with B=0, it should not have UB. everything should be by the book.
< 1762120946 814127 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think "by the book" brainfuck originally allows UB, but I prefer interpreters that don't do that
< 1762120952 381928 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or compilers
< 1762120959 734018 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i my by the C book :)
< 1762120966 622711 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i mean by*
< 1762120990 211808 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the ANSI version of the K&R bible?
< 1762121010 551433 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i _think_ yes, but i mainly do c99
< 1762121050 723 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are no special types used. off the top of my head, the only think i'm not sure of is whether fcntl.h is c89
< 1762121058 800749 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thing*
< 1762121092 513658 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's only used on windows, but i didn't have enough bytes left under 1K to add #ifdef _WIN32 ;) )
< 1762121147 90419 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but i might be able to squeeze it in. it does have about 15 bytes spare after removing some spacing newlines)
< 1762121210 799321 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I might squeeze it as ${W:+#include<fcntl.h>}
< 1762121243 991347 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's why it's not at the github page yet. it's WIP)
< 1762121317 242778 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's kind of funny to go for a size limit when using brainfuck in first place means that the programs will be long
< 1762121329 169700 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't much like brainfuck
< 1762121357 864324 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, the original bf compiler went for a small size compiler...
< 1762121405 313811 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's nothing to like about it, other than it works, and can be fun to solve bf related things :)
< 1762121704 818868 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1762122032 476142 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :re readable, yeah, it's hard to squeeze things into size limit and keep it readable, but i tried to keep it as readable as possible under the circumstances. it's not packed into 80-cols lines etc, and even has few excessive newlines for spacing ;)
< 1762122436 441150 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: updated comment, unmodified code https://0x0.st/KLVd.txt
< 1762122914 823002 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"not packed into 80-cols lines" => yeah, I have some attempts at those, like https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=863110
< 1762123018 936335 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, and this is sh, it's "allowed" to use gzip too and eval the decompressed code, but i don't think it's fun, and it's also scary to use - eval of code which you can't see...
< 1762123033 904759 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like to write code that is formatted normally but the algorithm that it uses is obscure and that's what makes it hard to understand, that's why I'm proud of https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=1008395
< 1762123092 433203 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :cu
< 1762123132 353410 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no need to add surface obfuscations or golfing if the actual method with the two unpacks is crazy enough
< 1762123155 748481 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it's great that different people find different things fun :) though i didn't try to obscure it by intent. it's only a result of the size limit.
< 1762123227 96543 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as i said, the resulting c code is clearer as it expands all the variables, though the awk code can be hard to decipher, especially the second script
< 1762123249 990027 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's the balanced counter loops handling)
< 1762123277 793465 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1762123326 609278 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was my original goal with olvashato, to generate clean readable code, though I only succeeded to a small part
< 1762123352 237136 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like that debug line (#define D ... when $D is not empty) expands to about twice its size in the sh script :)
< 1762123397 851284 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is olvsharo one of the links you posted earlier?
< 1762123400 763804 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :t
< 1762123413 729521 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1762123420 868964 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not familiar with it then
< 1762123429 312141 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Olvashat%C3%B3
< 1762123432 595449 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx
< 1762123452 604646 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh hey, it's you! :D
< 1762123479 565536 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, I said "my original goal" so it's my code
< 1762123542 303750 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can't say i remember anything at all about ML...
< 1762123612 622223 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you don't have to remember the concrete syntax because the compiler knows that
< 1762123638 843307 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i'm not that much into languages beyond c and sh, but i know a few, and recently decided to play a bit with bf, because i like tiny)
< 1762123667 380408 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah :) was an unrelated comment (ML)
< 1762123961 616723 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: the olvashato code looks readable. nice.
< 1762124295 268360 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: yes, but the goal was to make the SML and Prolog code that it outputs readable
< 1762124302 99286 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I only partly succeeded that
< 1762124340 294852 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could keep trying... :)
< 1762124478 367609 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:6ca3:baf2:b6ce:6247 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1762124562 874815 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: there's no point, I already passed the relevant course for which I've written this, and I have a diploma and everything, I have no reason to compile the same code to both SML and Prolog anymore, especially not into dialects for proprietary compilers that I only had access to as student versions
< 1762124583 576264 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if I want to emit readable code I should write an Enchain compiler
< 1762124626 842304 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, i misinterpreted "only partially succeeded" as "not too happy with that"
< 1762124671 349623 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my plan is for that to emit straightforward C code, though not the most readable because it will rely on a "modern" (as in last twenty years) C compiler that can do inlining and basic register allocation 
< 1762124731 602661 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :out of curiosity, why would it need "register allocation"? (and what does it mean in this context?)
< 1762124732 872917 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it won't be readable as C code, but useful enough in that you can see how it corresponds to the enchain source code straightforwardly
< 1762124753 887930 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think that's fair
< 1762124789 527119 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: I mean it will emit each function call as a separate statement, even when the functions are just simple integer arithmetic operations, so an old non-optimizing compiler would probably unnecessarily save each intermediate result into a stack slot
< 1762124852 251263 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and why would that matter, other than performance? or are you suggesting it would use more stack than it otherwise could?
< 1762124899 884571 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i assumed the stack space would be temporary till after it's called)
< 1762124902 766852 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just performance, yes, though it's mostly the inlining that matters
< 1762124940 126001 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the C code read alone will be ugly because every value will go to a temporary with uninformative name, sort of like in the prolog output of Olvashato but worse,
< 1762124951 978472 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, performance is second to correctness. get correctness right, then worry about performance IMO.
< 1762124962 227087 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep
< 1762124969 240299 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brb
< 1762124988 891017 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but read it when you're writing the Enchain source code and you can tell that each statement corresponds to an Enchain statement
< 1762125008 545285 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right
> 1762125028 442284 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Function-level programming14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167362 5* 03Fpstefan 5* (+1295) 10to Quote of J. Backus
< 1762125032 209059 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i was a performance engineer in mozila for some years, and the amount of premature optimizations is a PITA)
< 1762125039 795489 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mozilla*
< 1762125139 521837 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs : (to be fair, it's not only mozilla. it's pretty much everywhere)
< 1762125180 936997 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i get teh fun in squeezing every last bit of perf, but it does have costs...
< 1762125328 183884 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course
< 1762125340 126363 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that includes the code that I write
< 1762125356 511702 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
< 1762127108 234665 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Ah, so you already know the most important part of profiling: stop when it's fast enough. I had been trying to determine what kind of speed you were trying to get out of Brainfuck, but it sounds like you didn't have a fixed goal.
< 1762127194 865448 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it depends on the reason. if it's for work, sure, if it's for fun, then for as long as you're still having it ;)
< 1762127234 246793 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and no, i don't have a goal, but i have few references of existing programs.
< 1762127249 754501 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, like ais523. I am more emotionally driven; I think that most of my fast Python work has been out of spite more than anything else. My goal for Monte was to be faster than CPython for equivalent code.
< 1762127253 486540 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so obviously i prefer to beat them :)
< 1762127299 277537 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1762127309 196245 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i like fast out of spite :)
< 1762127412 392327 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: btw, re my initial thing about the speed test, do you know who tested it? are they here?
< 1762127472 510708 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the golden goal is fast and tiny and readable ;)
< 1762127503 67141 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Looks like None1, who I haven't seen here before. https://esolangs.org/wiki/User_talk:None1
< 1762127543 291993 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :None1 is fairly active, but not on IRC
< 1762127554 519853 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm... how does the esolangs wiki works in general? is it acceptable to edit other people's pages? (i don't intend to, and if i will i'll first ask here, so just info)
< 1762127615 82575 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :pages aren't owned by anyone
< 1762127625 299440 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although the designer of a language will normally have more information about what to put on them than other people
< 1762127645 760020 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, it's a wiki, but i think it's courtesy to at least talk first with whoever wrote something before changing it...
< 1762127662 756847 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the purpose of mainspace pages is to describe esolangs, rather than define them, so you can edit a page as long as it still describes the language correctly
< 1762127740 322010 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that pinging them on their user talk page would be fine, and I also think that being bold about editing the main article would be fine depending on what you want to add. We're fairly collaborative here.
< 1762127748 268219 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i was referring to this https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_speed_test which doesn't describe a language, but it does have some issues, including not being able to reproduce anything if following the described test procedure
< 1762127784 48633 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and some clarity issues too)
< 1762127855 983370 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks. anyway, no intent to edit anything for now, and i'll ask first regardless. thanks.
< 1762127940 174038 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my position is basically "a language should exist outside the wiki, even if it's only in someone's head, and then the wiki is used to describe and possibly publicise that"
< 1762127942 715164 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also haven't used media wiki before, but i don't doubt i can get over that ;) )
< 1762127975 622367 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries. I hadn't seen this page at all before, so I appreciate the discussion.
< 1762127978 645360 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is ideal for the language to exist as, e.g., an implementation or specification elsewhere first, but that is not a requirement
< 1762128007 109012 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: agreed
< 1762128060 775408 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a good reason to edit pages created by other people is because you're adding things like discussions of a language's computational class, or interpreters, or relationships between the language and other languages
> 1762128131 645479 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rail (data structure)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167363 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1126) 10Stub a common Brainfuck-only data structure. More words and example code in a moment.
< 1762128134 495842 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, i'll probably add my interpreters when they're more than a preview, without asking first.
< 1762128191 91458 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523, int-e: ^^^ Stubbed the BF stack-like thing that keeps showing up in lore. I use this in my stack machines, so I have code to bring to the table. My terminology is *not* standard and I would love for you to add your names for situations.
< 1762128230 341823 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: ping palaiologos as well, he might be interested in that brainfuck speed test thingy
< 1762128232 689482 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: you are missing a generalisation, of interleaving rails
< 1762128292 230091 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: are they here sometimes?
< 1762128300 354173 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Ah, so a program can have k distinct rails, sure.
< 1762128313 502948 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I should write an Esimpl-to-BF compiler as a sort of formalisation of this sort of thing
< 1762128337 776408 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I've also written programs with a sort of "marker rail" that's nonzero in most places but zero in a few, that are used to mark positions on other rails
< 1762128338 652774 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didn't know of http://lvogel.free.fr/bf.html though, and i like it.
< 1762128390 368112 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it mentions two test programs which i don't think i;ve seen before: sisihi.b and long.b . does anyone knows where they can be found?
< 1762128442 351016 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i do test with mandelbrot and hanoi. bffsree_gcc is a deamon with that. i have no clue what the f*ck it does to be so fast...)
< 1762128458 40569 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: only by the standards of how slow this channel is. probably better to ping https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Palaiologos on the wiki.
< 1762128474 185280 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(deamon with hanoi, but in mandelbrot i'm about 2x faster than it)
< 1762128478 760636 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: to ping someone you use the user talk page, not the userpage
< 1762128483 424892 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you linked the wrong page
< 1762128486 628450 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine
< 1762128498 404192 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :people who are familiar with MediaWiki will know this but avih isn't
< 1762128536 603574 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, i get that it can be some form of communication, but i don't have an account and i haven't used it in general.
< 1762128550 363351 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I was thinking more of the ping feature which you get by writing @ followed by a link to the userpage onto an edit in some other page, such as the talk page of that speed test thingy, ping both palaiologos and None in one go
< 1762128555 289303 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you're right normally
< 1762128578 67850 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: that isn't installed on Esolang
< 1762128580 599110 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh nice, then you're still yet to learn about the base 9 thing
< 1762128603 863389 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that's not in this mediawiki installation? good to know
< 1762128622 301696 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the wiki signup process is a bit confusing – we had to make it confusing enough to stop spambots, but most legitimate editors are able to figure it out
< 1762128658 323144 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(we used to get a *lot* of spambots, but the current combination seems to be keeping them out so far)
< 1762128668 343922 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: really? what would spambots do with esolangs wiki?!
< 1762128674 516468 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :post spam on it
< 1762128678 552526 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
< 1762128686 171340 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's what they do with everything else
< 1762128713 366325 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wouldn't think it's worth the effort or power consumption. i get tat maybe on wikipedia or other places with lots of eyes...
< 1762128812 465081 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :spammers can freely choose where to put the computers that run stuff, and that makes power cheap
< 1762128854 547691 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or steal them, so that they aren't paying for the power
< 1762128926 602341 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it a common thing with wikimedia? wikipedia? i don't think i've ever seen spam in wikimedia sites...
< 1762128970 901629 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :afaik the most painful these in recent years is scrapping
< 1762129076 934080 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wikipedia has a very good spam filter
< 1762129132 679225 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are a lot of attempts to spam on it, but it's hard to automate because as soon as the admins notice patterns in the spam they put in a rule to prevent that specific pattern
< 1762129218 964635 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, i guess
> 1762129525 766348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rail (data structure)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167364&oldid=167363 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1888) 10Just writing words like it's nanowrimo again. I have not tested any of this; I'm just whipping out the code from memory. Yes, yes! You're the man now, dog!
< 1762129568 518379 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: i really like that page with that jit. it also links here https://code.google.com/archive/p/esotope-bfc/wikis/Comparison.wiki , which is interesting and i didn't know of it. currently my interpreter does everything upto and including "simple loops" (my linked bf2c.sh does those too, but not super efficiently)
< 1762129607 425665 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(still proud of what it can do in 1k though :) )
< 1762129684 864593 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i've seen quite a few bf pages, but i don't think any of them led me either to Laurent's page or that google code page
< 1762129696 373229 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks again
< 1762129771 822870 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: No worries. Eventually you can tackle Lost Kingdom!
< 1762129800 814938 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, all of my interpreters could tackle that from v0.00001 :)
< 1762129820 977856 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nice. Lots of interpreters crash on that one.
< 1762129833 738328 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :including the 4 lines sh code i posted literally here in irc :)
< 1762129848 291168 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord
< 1762129909 194983 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can jit it too: bf2c.sh < LostKingdom.b | tcc -run - /dev/tty   (or "con" on windows)
< 1762130013 41858 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but not in the 4 lines sh code, because it doesn't take an infile argument, but recent versions of tcc support custom stdin with "tcc --rstdin /dev/tty -run -", because i added it myself few days ago to tcc mob)
< 1762130312 902707 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should respect tcc more. I don't really use it much because I'm not a big C fan.
< 1762130400 477028 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tcc is great.
< 1762130437 60144 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :see, playing with bf improves tcc :)
> 1762130448 366196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rail (data structure)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167365&oldid=167364 5* 03Corbin 5* (+876) 10Interleaved rails and a bit of extra detail.
< 1762130559 763834 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Also, I hadn't seen that comparison page before, and the notation there is giving me ideas about how to improve https://esolangs.org/wiki/Algebraic_Brainfuck
< 1762130680 709934 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which comparison page? Laurent's?
< 1762130727 941307 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's your link...)
< 1762130792 454911 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Google Code page.
> 1762130813 280235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Algebraic Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167366&oldid=163679 5* 03Corbin 5* (+26) 10/* Computability */ Bluelink.
< 1762130877 25908 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, i don't think i see comparisons there? (otehr than maybe mentioning which interpreters implement which optimizations?) but it does mention optimizations i didn't think of, which would feel unfair to implement, but that won't stop me ;)
< 1762130909 906819 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was just going off the URL, that's all.
< 1762130922 678595 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, it's good. very nice.
< 1762130973 578825 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :FWIW all I'm seeing is a monoid; the way that I currently optimize BF is merely by canonicalizing that monoid. I don't really have a high-minded approach to optimization.
< 1762131045 608025 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i don't know what a monoid is, and it feels like i'm missing out on an important high level concept
< 1762131101 841721 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: remind me, is your interpreter using any 3rd party jit?
< 1762131116 868761 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(other than rpython itself)
< 1762131142 330852 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like gnu Lightning or other assemblers?
< 1762131165 798419 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A monoid is an associative binary operation along with a unit. Examples include string concatenation (with the empty string) and addition of natural numbers (with zero). They show up whenever we have a list of things; lists are "free" monoids, which just means that they are monoids regardless of what type they contain.
< 1762131221 182343 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :feels like lisp
< 1762131226 681615 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :except higher level :)
< 1762131226 962934 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Nope. RPython has its own backend. I mean, it does use libffi, which I think of as a sort of runtime assembler, but RPython does have all the nasty parts you'd expect, e.g. https://github.com/pypy/pypy/tree/main/rpython/jit/backend/x86
< 1762131227 558482 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like defining this sort of mathematical structure by showing the rules it has with a familiar example
< 1762131252 137504 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. monoids have 0 + x = x, x + 0 = x, (x + y) + z = x + (y + z) for some reasonable definition of + and 0
< 1762131265 874700 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but those are the only rules, so the operation doesn't have to act like + and 0 in other respects
< 1762131308 678770 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :We have a good wiki page, [[monoid]]. They're too common to not talk about. But programmers haven't historically had access to algebraic laws, so they haven't been able to prove that their binary operations are associative.
< 1762131311 438114 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.72 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I don't quite mean "defining" but "explaining")
< 1762131323 162670 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: yeah, of course it does, but your code is "normal" python which gets the benefit of running on top of rpython, just like c code benefits from good compiler optimizations, right?
< 1762131365 622722 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: That's the idea! In practice, RPython-flavored Python has an object model somewhat like Java, but honestly more like OCaml than anything else I've used.
< 1762131370 286410 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(unlike, for instance, c code which uses Lightning)
< 1762131417 699380 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You have full access to Python 2.7 metaprogramming, *once*, when your app is imported into memory. Then the toolchain traces your in-memory compiled program to figure out what it actually does, and compiles those traces to C instead of your original code.
< 1762131436 425946 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: that's nice. i like that approach best ("normal" code in an efficient platform)
< 1762131518 858591 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bf.py doesn't really do much with that. Cammy's core interpreter uses metaprogramming to generate a bunch of optimized bytecodes and do some OCaml-module-style codegen for classes. Monte's interpreter has a full-blown nanopass infrastructure, macros for I/O and promises, template classes, and all sorts of weird FFI.
< 1762131539 464598 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: korvo: thanks for the monoids info, i'll look into the esolangs page (or elsewhere) later. cheers.
< 1762131554 962064 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries! Welcome to abstract algebra. It's fun times.
< 1762131573 234551 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I learned group theory in order to do cryptography. I envy folks who get to do it just for fun or even just for discrete-maths credit.)
< 1762131637 603211 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i implemented a pretty decent JS Promise, conforming to CommonJS 1.1.1 spec... (can be used in mpv js code - which i maintain)
< 1762131719 648427 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, never got too much into math in uni or later, beyond the basic stuff, though CS basic math is a bit more than a degree in literature :)
< 1762131747 458697 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rad. When I did Monte, I was using E's mechanism, copying the pretty pictures at http://www.erights.org/elib/concurrency/refmech.html and now I'm looking at those once again for Vixen. Some things never change.
< 1762131760 381581 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yeah, this channel sometimes does category theory for some reason
< 1762131767 797972 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's me, I'm the reason.
< 1762131785 982591 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1762131793 623229 :ajal!~ambylastn@host-92-17-37-198.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
< 1762131871 500618 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a problem where I look at a graph and I see a category. Or I look at a monoid and I see a category. I see two objects and I think "I could put an arrow on that"
< 1762131891 305574 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::)
< 1762132167 655327 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i really like promises https://github.com/avih/nopromise/blob/master/nopromise.js
< 1762132181 449245 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :eh.. https://github.com/avih/nopromise
< 1762132239 424110 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's a pico version too
< 1762132340 596162 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think all mathematicians do that sometimes, just with different tools that they're familiar with, not category theory in particular
< 1762132414 341556 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sometimes you know a deep theory that feels like it explains the simple proof better than the more elementary phrasing
> 1762132629 610502 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rail (data structure)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167367&oldid=167365 5* 03Corbin 5* (+507) 10Explain padding better. Padding is actually really important for small algorithms since [<<] gets really big if we have to add error handling or location detection.
< 1762132712 114849 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for me one of these things is that compactness of first order logic shows that if you can prove that no infinite structure satisfies some Ramsey-like restrictions then there's an upper bound for how big finite objects satisfy it. it turns out that this doesn't actually get you any new results, because the proofs for those Ramsey-like theorems are always already explicit enough to give an upper bound, so 
< 1762132718 122498 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is at best a guide for what kind of proof you should be looking for.
< 1762132754 971446 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Nice. Monte's version is a great example of the warning, "You can write Java in any language." https://github.com/monte-language/typhon/blob/master/typhon/objects/refs.py
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< 1762132795 280366 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(looking)
< 1762132865 943364 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I like that. Ramsey intuition is hard to get going in general. I know the basic party-trick version, which is just finite Ramsey's theorem for graphs, but I don't have the intuition for how it connects to (logical) compactness.
< 1762132867 599538 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not small... (i think
< 1762132868 957262 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :)
< 1762132954 237170 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like if the task is to prove that every infinite string of a three-letter alphabet has two adjacent copies of some string as an infix then you know in advance that you'll be proving that a long enough string has such an infix
< 1762132979 53108 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: it's been a while since i use java. what do you consider "java-ism"? extensive use of OO code, methods and classes?
< 1762132985 857092 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :used*
< 1762133020 504174 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in this particular case the upper bound for the length is actually pretty small, something between 10 and 20, but of course that's not always the case, for some Ramsey results your proof will give a huge overkill upper bound and it's hard to guess even what order of magnitude you can improve the bound to
< 1762133021 62166 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Oh! I know the cringiest example. When I think of a hypergraph, I think of a category. So I once blurted out that categories were how to describe an object graph in a certain sort of actor model. I *did* use this to prove that any Hewitt actor model is Cartesian closed and thus a lambda calculus, so it saw some use, but it's very dorky.
< 1762133060 332156 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i never liked it too much TBH. it works, but it requires too much infrastructure for my taste)
< 1762133082 611502 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Yeah. Moreover, the use of lots of classes to solve the Expression Problem. In compilers, this is the problem of having N different behaviors and M different AST nodes; we need N × M different code clauses to handle them all. Here, the AST is all the possible states of a promise, and I basically wrote one method/behavior.
< 1762133135 970239 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right. i think c++ code can suffer too from that, but i'm not very experienced in it
< 1762133213 340653 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds nice and fun (the AST promise thing)
< 1762133224 14761 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. Lots of corporate C++ especially, particularly backend and gamedev stuff. I worked at Google for a bit and there was very little difference between internal C++, Java, and Python code. When Go was introduced, people started writing Go with that flavor too.
< 1762133264 893327 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::)
< 1762133285 148037 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can get the dev out of X, but not the X out of the dev :)
< 1762133349 34282 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i played with go a bit. it's nice. but then again, it's pike...
< 1762133393 634336 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not dart though)
> 1762133757 70580 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rail (data structure)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167368&oldid=167367 5* 03Corbin 5* (+602) 10/* Algorithms */ Can't have push without pop. Also use semicolons for comments instead of commas!
< 1762140037 126945 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have not used Java much, and not at all recently, but I think it is excessively object oriented programming. OOP is good for some things but Java is too excessive OOP, I think.
> 1762140488 966859 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gur yvsr14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167369&oldid=167270 5* 03Placeholding 5* (+30) 10
> 1762140870 999992 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gur yvsr14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167370&oldid=167369 5* 03Placeholding 5* (+93) 10
< 1762141244 259838 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: i think that's an RC1 https://0x0.st/KL4p.txt
< 1762141300 301524 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(fit limiting the #include <fcntl> to windows-only if binary IO is enabled)
< 1762141314 125467 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :.h
< 1762141409 714558 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(otherwise only the comment is modified)
< 1762141464 724527 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i did have to remove one newline though, but it's not too bad.
< 1762141475 818740 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's exactly 1024 :)
< 1762141630 204488 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, also modified the unbound behavior to double the memory size instead of adding fixed 256 bytes. now it's symmetric, and saved two bytes :)
> 1762143344 79533 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baulk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167371&oldid=167273 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+41) 10
> 1762143486 670847 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baulk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167372&oldid=167371 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-14) 10/* Operators */
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< 1762144416 526620 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can JIT be effective for emulating instruction sets that have tagged memory?
> 1762145358 217512 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baulk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167373&oldid=167372 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+2) 10/* Examples */
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> 1762149492 263996 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baulk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167376&oldid=167375 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-36) 10/* Full description */
> 1762149745 740290 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CARP14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167377&oldid=166735 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+8) 10Assembly change
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< 1762154828 354461 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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> 1762163457 443789 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction minimalization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167379&oldid=167361 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+831) 10/* User:Esolangist's attempts */
< 1762163595 311035 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^help
< 1762163595 380186 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
< 1762163636 299717 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul (Hello, world!)S
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< 1762164187 340084 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :HI!
< 1762164883 22030 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :g'day
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< 1762166109 562976 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :^egel 42
< 1762166116 881830 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :boo
< 1762166638 828639 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot only knows two programming languages (technically 3 but only the owner gets to run raw Funge code because that could break the sandbox)
< 1762166640 596696 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: madam president, president-in-office of the council on his first appearance. if i am not trying to play its part in this debate. there are still some disturbing grey areas. first, the congolese government continues to block the commission and, indeed, is another issue that the council is preparing to double the resources for this programme will mark a new page in the construction of the europe of networking which you de
< 1762166949 812984 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah. HackEso knows other languages, and at one point I considered setting up an egel interpreter but I didn't finish. 
< 1762166961 513811 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's a sandbox so if you want you can set up an egel interpreter on it
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> 1762170722 986508 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rotato14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167382 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+1427) 10Created page with "Rotato, or Rotato Potato is a [[turning tarpit]] by [[User:Esolangist]].  Note from creator: I'm not sure that this is Turing Complete, so would this just be a "turning esolang"? ==Commands (and the wheel)== ===Commands=== <pre> > rotates the wheel right (current 
> 1762171167 25277 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Esolangist alt 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Brainturn wheel.png10]]"
> 1762171781 638698 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainturn14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167384 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+562) 10Created page with "Brainturn is a [[turning tarpit]] by [[User:Esolangist]]. It is a [[BF]] derivative aswell. ==Commands== [[File:Brainturn wheel.png|thumb|The wheel. It starts at +]] <pre> +  rotate the wheel left, moving the "wheel pointer" to the right -  rotate the wheel righ
> 1762171800 488823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainturn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167385&oldid=167384 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+1) 10/* Hello world */
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< 1762175536 410191 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is nobody editing pages on the wiki
< 1762175566 787853 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there were edits earlier
< 1762175577 843551 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it's just that most people are doing other things atm
< 1762175604 660565 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in fact you left this channel a minute before an edit and joined 7 minutes afterwards
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< 1762182758 691293 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangist: You keep leaving in-between your edits and not seeing the notifications from other users also editing.
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> 1762184049 894474 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UnicodeLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167392 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+633) 10Created page with "Welcome to UnicodeLang. You are free to add commands. ==Rules== # No joke commands like " solves the halting problem if the universe is in a black hole" # Go in order of Unicode # Make a new section every time you reach a new Unicode block. # Have fun! ==Commands=
> 1762184168 952209 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CollaborativePL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167393&oldid=164612 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+148) 10
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< 1762184915 166797 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :[[User:CollaborativePL]] is a joke user created just to justify the user page. I'm going to move it to main.
> 1762184959 570150 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Corbin 5*  10moved [[02User:CollaborativePL10]] to [[CollaborativePL]]: Languages go in the main namespace.
< 1762185000 184621 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ah. nevermind. egel is too hard to compile anyway
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< 1762185365 324701 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sprout: it's not that hard to compile, and HackEso has a working C++ compiler. IIRC I did manage to compile it, but then I didn't install because I found that I'd need to modify the interpreter or add a wrapper around it to make it more suitable for the bot, as in some combination of (1) not print prompts in non-interactive mode, (2) import
< 1762185365 825316 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :libraries automatically, (3) take egel commands from command-line or standard input, (4) automatically exit when the script completes, (5) maybe print result values automatically. I don't remember which ones of these the interpreter didn't know out of box, but it was more than one and eventually I was not interested enough.
< 1762185409 744597 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul (Hello, world!)S
< 1762185409 792047 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, world!
< 1762185411 903679 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :especially since you were already running a dedicated IRC bot evaluating egel
< 1762185499 65862 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's probably something about this in the logs
> 1762185557 642389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:CollaborativePL10]]": not a user page, and not created by the relevant user
< 1762185645 46266 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, the logs suggest that I also had to patch out references to libicu
< 1762185657 523847 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am wondering whether we should ban "readers edit in the commands" language pages because a) the language doesn't actually exist at the time they're created, b) they never seem to lead to an interesting language, c) they're conceptually all duplicates of each other
< 1762185688 48500 :esolangist!~esolangis@194.207.212.189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...
< 1762185694 674472 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I made it even harder to compile since that by adding a aot phase
> 1762185695 162843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Discussion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167398&oldid=167397 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+450) 10/* ULTRA IMPORTANT!!! */ context
< 1762185703 430065 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :*since then
< 1762185707 868158 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what does "aot" mean?
< 1762185716 789700 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ahead of time
< 1762185744 427407 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :not a jit but an ahead of time phase
< 1762185757 563579 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2020-02.html#ltH shows where I used the standalone irc bot that you ran
< 1762185777 679491 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :some binding to liblightning that may or may not ship with your os
< 1762185876 639773 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for some libraries if they are helpful for some on topic experiments and are available from the distribution that HackEso's inside is using, you can just ask fizzie to install the library, because he has admin rights to the machine
< 1762185893 581870 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've done that with some library earlier, I'm not sure which one, probably libperl-date-manip
< 1762185956 398800 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :meh. egel is a succesful experiment with regard to trying out a different operational semantics but a failure as a language
< 1762186007 111962 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :the interpreter just kinda stuck after I showed the evaluation mechanism works
< 1762186026 933184 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` rustc --version
< 1762186028 181896 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: rustc: command not found
< 1762186067 693492 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` gcc --version
< 1762186069 262619 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :gcc (Debian 8.3.0-6) 8.3.0 \ Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
> 1762186154 70132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Discussion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167399&oldid=167398 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+10) 10/* ULTRA IMPORTANT!!! */ clarification
< 1762186209 622275 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :debian would make stuff hard. I got too used to fedora that just ships with all dependencies out of the box
< 1762186218 796220 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah well
< 1762186245 825235 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Also (d) evidence suggests that they will end up like Quorum: basically like Java or PHP or some other boring average object model that supports bland paradigms at best. Ironically, I get to cite Quorum's own research on this; they were trying to blend all colors and came up with mud.
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< 1762186273 527275 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: actually they more often end up like HQ9+
< 1762186276 139475 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangist: ^^^ If you haven't seen it, Lucky 10000 for the Quorum programming language. It's an excellent example of existing mostly as a warning to other language designers.
< 1762186295 859194 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you are encouraging people to add commands to a language without defining a data model, a common outcome is that the language doesn't have one
< 1762186311 322860 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Oh, sure. But that's because none of the editing users actually want to *use* the language. If they have to use it and not merely write graffiti on a wall then they'll come up with something insipid instead.
< 1762186544 75219 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :At any rate, I think that forbidding user-edited languages makes a lot of sense from the angle that the wiki isn't a chat service.
< 1762186585 184223 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yeah, last I checked there was no rust installed, not even the runtime libraries, so I didn't manage to compile a rust program and upload a binary. what I can do is both compile a C++ program on HackEso and run it there, or compile a C++ program locally and upload the binary to HackEso and run it there.
< 1762186670 501857 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I'm thinking about how often my languages aren't "about" their commands, and may not have distinct commands at all
< 1762186707 640265 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Waterfall Model sort-of does when viewed as a language, but only for I/O and it isn't an essential (or even commonly implemented) part of the language and isn't part of the underlying compuational model
< 1762186709 413077 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for a language where any user can define commands, we have a few IRC bots that are like that (HackEso, perlbot, and to a minor extent lambdabot and jevalbot but all commands in those are temporary), as well as Wikiplia, but what's common in these is that there's an implementation and you define commands by implementing them rather than by just
< 1762186709 912615 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :editing documentation\
< 1762186733 83380 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :meanwhile, things like Advance The Wheel! heavily care about their commands (and for ATW!, even which order they're in) but most of my languages aren't like that
< 1762186749 195417 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cammy (and an undocumented relative, Culex, not really worth sharing) started out without any data-manipulation commands; they only acted as pipelines which shuffled around data within some data structure. Culex started as a better notation for permutations IIRC.
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< 1762186767 35712 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I think a few I've defined commands in esolangs by just suggesting a command to the original maintainer and they implemented it
< 1762186848 310105 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and now I'm thinking about things like the I/D machine and Brainpocalypse II which do clearly have commands, but what those commands are is a matter of opinion/viewpoint
< 1762186916 565478 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually, the I/D machine gives a really good viewpoint of the issue: if a language has two commands and neither takes arguments, you can run-length-encode it to get a language with one command with an nonnegative-integer argument
< 1762187079 148515 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I/D machine is minimal enough that it would turn to a very different language if you added more commands into it
< 1762187161 294236 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1762187176 512879 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, the lack of commands is the point, it wouldn't be interesting if it had more
< 1762187253 269071 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wob_jonas: Oh, interesting. Maybe it's related to the extensible-language movement?
< 1762187288 533654 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes. for some languages like Egel you can add a library with new functions, implemented in either egel or native code
< 1762187304 427420 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: what is related to the extensible-langauge movement? I don't understand your question
> 1762187508 744709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Viktor's amazing 4-bit processor14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167400&oldid=166111 5* 03TheBigH 5* (+595) 10Did some fixing on the page
> 1762187539 254951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction minimalization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167401&oldid=167381 5* 03Esolangist 5* (+183) 10/* User:Esolangist's attempts */
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< 1762188267 209287 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I tried looking at Quorum but couldn't figure out how it works from the documentation
< 1762188291 63298 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :spruit: in the logs, https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2020-02.html#lMhb is where I start to experiment with compiling egel for HackEso
< 1762188292 337466 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it looks somewhat like Java with differently spelled keywords, but the docs weren't nearly clear enough to let me figure out how the class system works
< 1762188306 31190 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. it mentioned that classes can be instantiated but doesn't explain what that does
< 1762188343 141000 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I can't figure out whether its class variables are the equivalent of a Java static field or a Java instance field or something else
< 1762188444 138886 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's this and why is it not on the wiki?
< 1762188444 517903 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wob_jonas: Oh, sorry, I didn't really have a complete thought there. The idea of a user editing the language only in a constrained manner, it reminds me of extensible languages or languages with compiler plugins.
< 1762188495 744618 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wob_jonas: if you're talking about Quorum I don't think it's an esolang, except possibly by accidenet
< 1762188521 750269 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wob_jonas: https://quorumlanguage.com/ Quorum is a language developed entirely from empirical evidence. Features and changes are done by preregistering psychology experiments, testing different versions of the language with students, and considering the measured effect.
< 1762188553 601190 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the docs seem to be (intentionally?) hiding a lot of details
< 1762188564 151772 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: PHP's object model is the closest fit that I know of. Static fields are just instance fields that promise not to be modified, I think.
< 1762188572 162449 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had to experiment with their interpreter just to determine that "number" was actually a double rather than an arbitrary-precision float
< 1762188585 685271 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: that's more or less how Wikiplia works: there's a core language that you cannot change, but there's a compiler that compiles from a slightly higher level language into the core language and users can edit that. whereas HackEso runs x86_6 linux userspace and you can upload compilers that compile into that; perlbot runs perl and buubot3 macros
< 1762188586 185272 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you can make definitions using buubot3 macros; lambdabot runs Haskell and you can upload definitions; jevalbot runs J the APL-like and you can upload definitions
< 1762188586 222902 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Java static fields can be modified, though
< 1762188609 94611 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Oh, I'm thinking of Java `final`, whoops. I think both PHP and Quorum use `final` too?
< 1762188625 888867 :wob_jonas!~wob_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: that sounds like a crazy premise
< 1762188637 224394 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't find any final in the docs I read – but the Quorum docs are terrible so that doesn't mean it doesn't support it
< 1762188670 155517 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wob_jonas: I've looked at research into keyword names that are understandable for both programmers and non-programmers
< 1762188684 333976 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wob_jonas: For sure. I have a lot of contempt for their underlying metaphysics, but in terms of PLT it's just bland. No new ideas, no interesting approaches to computation, just a kind of tired Sisyphean retread of the worst parts of Pascal's design philosophy.
< 1762188698 900384 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think they came up with "repeat" for loops as the only keyword that both groups were comfortable with (although I don't think this got as far as determining what sort of loop it was)
< 1762188748 143216 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I don't really like projects that attempt to twist metaphysics to the point that physics breaks. Quorum ignores how computers work. Dynamicland's another good example; I should stub a page on it if I can keep my cool.)
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< 1762189621 43218 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello peers(is that a valid term? oh well)
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< 1762189886 345380 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: I think it's valid but people don't normally use it in that context
< 1762189897 525054 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: thanks!
< 1762190370 697787 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :could I perhaps ask for some help formalizing a command?
< 1762190421 759901 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can say what you're stuck on and see if anyone responds
< 1762190436 679683 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although I'm not sure whether I'm personally up to it right now
< 1762190463 647452 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wanst asking anyone particular, I was just wondering if it was appropriate for this channel
< 1762190551 240986 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, this channel's about esolangs and related discussion, so it would be on-topic at least (and it is hard to know whether or not anyone will be interested in responding on any given topic)
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< 1762190669 380374 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: Don't ask to ask; just ask.
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< 1762192405 373024 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: fungot prefers to call them "hon. and learned friend the member for [district represented]" or "hon. and learned friend the minister for [department name]"
< 1762192406 157186 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: mr president, mr commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, but sometimes things are very difficult to establish these preconditions together in order to achieve them money is needed; the aid conference was successful but more is needed alongside it. it is still deficient. however, the very small budget we are debating whether we can use the facility or not.
< 1762192810 315252 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: In the textual descriptions for algorithms in TAOCP, Knuth mostly uses if-goto constructs with multiple different keywords for goto including "go to", "go back to", "return to", "repeat" (for going to the same step where you are), sometimes followed by " step". But there are also inline loops within one step.
< 1762192937 839085 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a suspicion that Knuth wrote the algorithms in a way that would map onto asm easily, due to caring about the efficiency of the resulting machine code
< 1762192958 233423 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and there are FORTRAN-like counted loops which involve a come-from after a step, as in "C3. Perform step C4, for j = i - 1, i - 2, ..., 1."
< 1762192981 100935 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't Shakespeare's gotos change form depending on whether they jump forwards or backwards?
< 1762192993 309442 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: does C4 run on its own after that? or not?
< 1762192994 540675 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know, I was thinking of Chef's loops
< 1762193014 129144 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember this being a big problem for Funge-98's y instruction
< 1762193022 563562 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: no, but that's because the previous line says "C2. Perform step C3, for i = N, N-1, ..., 2; then terminate the algorithm."
< 1762193036 37491 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is algorithm 5.2.C 
< 1762193049 125338 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is a loop, and you write the loop body after the instruction, but after y runs normally the loop body is the next thing in the path of execution so it gets run to
< 1762193063 290636 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(except if the argument to y is 0, when it gets skipped for some reason – y is weird)
< 1762193070 777197 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err. is this k rather than y?
< 1762193074 494692 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my befunge is rusty
< 1762193157 46017 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the next algorithm has a step saying "D2. Perform step D3 for 1 ≤ j ≤ N; then go to step D4." so it looks like it just avoids fallthroughs after multi-line loops
< 1762193390 258758 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's also "S1. Perform steps S2 through S5 for j = 2, 3, ..., N; then terminate the algorithm." so this definitely looks like FORTRAN loops that come from after the last step of the loop body 
< 1762193447 39222 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder how prevalent comefrom-style loops are nowadays
< 1762193461 846040 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even in non-programming contexts
< 1762193513 157910 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the non-programming contexts mostly don't use line labels
< 1762193580 820589 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, they use <ol>-style lists fairly often, which come with built in list item labels to refer to
< 1762193918 991468 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what was the Smalltalk-like esolang on the esowiki where when you create an object you give the name but not value of its instance variables and it copies the value from somewhere... maybe from the lexical environment or from self in the creating context
< 1762193941 61035 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it uses identifiers that are one-character long only
< 1762194038 358044 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also many but not all keywords and identifiers are non-ascii
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< 1762194133 22364 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I found it, it's https://esolangs.org/wiki/SCOOP
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> 1762204914 159774 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Error quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167414&oldid=160700 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+3) 10/* How to write an error quine */ better first and last step
< 1762205008 540307 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, that's good enough for now. I also have a paper by Byrd et al. that shows how to use relational languages like miniKanren to generate quines, twines, thrines, etc. Not sure how to integrate that yet. Also have to write the ganguine article.
< 1762205240 270402 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which esolangs use character sets which are not compatible with Unicode, ASCII, EBCDIC, Morse code, Baudot code, and punch cards?
< 1762205952 993844 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: that mostly sounds like esolangs whose input isn't characters, like Piet or efghij
< 1762206062 281842 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, although I did not mean that, since pictures and that other stuff are not character sets.
< 1762206097 313763 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: unless you're unsatisfied with the mapping of the VIC-20 or PET's character sets to Unicode, which wouldn't be too unreasonable, in which case VIC-20 BASIC or PET BASIC, except those don't count as esoteric
< 1762206238 425349 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh right, my SHARP EL-5120 calculator's BASIC-like language. it doesn't have a tape or magnetic card reader accessory, so there's no mapping of its character set to anything tangible, the characters only exist as bytes in its RAM and many of them encode a whole keyword like cos⁻¹ or GOSUB, so they aren't technically compatible with anything else
< 1762206294 326381 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this probably applies to some microcomputer BASICs too, the ones that don't parse keywords from letter sequences but only have keywords as a single character and only show them as multiple letters when displayed
< 1762206305 957591 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have to enter them as one character, usually with a modifier key
< 1762206358 343704 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there are two different keyboard layouts and possibly two different character sets, one for BASIC statements (at the start of a line or after a colon) and one everywhere else, the characteristic example being on the ZX Spectrum
< 1762206377 455984 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do you count these?
< 1762206407 678031 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, those would count.
< 1762206459 277319 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Although not quite in the way I meant, they still count in a somewhat different way.)
< 1762206496 55872 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they have a custom internal characters set (or possibly more than one) that encodes those characters as one byte (or possibly a few bytes)
< 1762206624 381672 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and of course there are all sorts of CPU-ran machine code where the program is encoded as bytes (or words of some size) and aren't identified with any character set
< 1762207673 333129 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am unsatisfied with the mapping of any character set to Unicode (including Unicode itself, due to various things it does), but some are perhaps less objectionable to others (e.g. possibly the mappings from ISO 8859).
< 1762207738 540485 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :At best, it might be used for approximation of character conversion when you want to display text that you do not have the appropriate fonts for that character set or if you need to convert between character sets but cannot do so directly for whatever reason; even then, it is not really best way to do it but can often provide an approximation which might or might not be suitable depending on your intention.
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> 1762238141 685672 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167424&oldid=167415 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+311) 10/* Thoughts on burn */
> 1762238264 357096 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FuckTheBit14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167425 5* 03FluixMakesEsolangs 5* (+1305) 10Initial Commit
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< 1762241805 173211 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine
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< 1762244708 293782 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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< 1762248137 111821 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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> 1762254466 904388 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chicken chicken chicken: chicken chicken14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167427&oldid=167120 5* 03None1 5* (+11) 10Fix mistakes
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< 1762275471 722987 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :'ello people, I have this command {xyz}. basically what It does is, does not exist, however whenever any symbol within it changes in some way(like for example moves across the program in some way), all of the symbols inside of the {} move with it
< 1762275479 547539 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I need help formalizing it
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< 1762275887 488601 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I suspect you might have to put limits on the "in some way" to make that make sense
< 1762275909 333562 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but normally the way you formalise this sort of thing is to define {} as not being a command, but rather a way to group commands
< 1762275933 873909 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then, say, a command that moved all 'y's would be defined instead as "move every group of commands that contains a 'y'"
< 1762275962 294876 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that way you can check that your definition make sense with all the command-changing commands
< 1762276053 306081 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1762276066 945539 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.99.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks ais523!
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< 1762277110 805972 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: by the way, you said earlier that your interpreter is second to Laurent's right? is it typically the same factor? e.g. typically 2x slower or some such? if yes, what's this factor?
< 1762277149 622368 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(i would try it, but i don't currently have the setup for it)
< 1762277299 601241 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think mine's typically x2-x3 slower than Laurant's. but with bffsree_gcc it's weird, both compared to Laurant's and mine. in some cases it just blitz everything (like hanoi), and in some others is average-ish at best (good, but nothing to write home about).
< 1762277378 748647 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a shame its source is not available. i think i know what it does, which mine doesn't do (i think it flattens some nested loops).
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< 1762281974 299128 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :avih: Oh, I don't remember the exact factor. Probably somewhere between 1-2x. I only remember what I learned: I should take GNU Lightning seriously, on par with RPython or Truffle. (Friends don't let friends use Truffle because Oracle owns it.)
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< 1762283819 443419 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: x1-2 is very nice. i'm not there yet :)
< 1762283919 292827 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to be optimize further i need to expand my opcodes vocabulary, so that they can represent higher level of abstraction.
< 1762284167 224661 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though again, at least with the precompiled binaries on windows, this is ~ 1.5x faster than Laurent's for me https://github.com/rdebath/Brainfuck and it supports Lightning but this one is compiled only with LuaJIT's Dynasm.
< 1762284224 878287 :avih!~quassel@23.94.231.119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but at least for now, i prefer to stay with minimal plain c and no jit
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> 1762379800 205677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esofish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167497&oldid=142065 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+226) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Esofish programming language on GitHub, altered the Unimplemented tag to Implemented, amended a few orthographic mistakes, and improved the formatting.
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> 1762402253 909783 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[073ISC14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167505 5* 03PhiPhiPHipHi2.0 5* (+1006) 10Created page with "3ISC is a theoretical programming language created by user PhiPhiPHipHi2.0 (Phoenix Irwin). You may be able to tell by the name, it is a computer that uses 3 instructions (or 5 if you use IO)  it is similar to brainfuck in that it uses a long tape with a pointer po
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> 1762406916 176419 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:I am islptng14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167507&oldid=164743 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+8) 10
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> 1762439537 887199 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Alno14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167525 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+1565) 10Created page with "'''Alno''' is an [[Along and Across]] language created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. It is composed of a subset of algebra(Add, subtract, multiply, divide, modulo and brackets), and [[Not hundred]]. Alno's computational class is currently unknown, though it propably is
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> 1762442646 860670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Finite Countermodel Machine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=167527 5* 03Ukeharu 5* (+1752) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Finite Countermodel Machine |paradigms=[[:Category:Declarative paradigm|declarative]], logic |author=[[User:Ukeharu]] |year=[[:Category:2025|2025]] |memsys=State-based |dimensions=one-dimensional |class=[[:Category:Finite sta
< 1762442818 666005 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cautiously excited for this one.
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> 1762472229 587761 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075MAT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=167532&oldid=164315 5* 03Kg583 5* (+859) 10Add I/O section
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< 1762482445 18307 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would think that it would be more difficult to reverse ChaCha20 if you do not use the entire output. I would also think that it might be better to not have a separate counter and nonce and key, therefore all of these things can be longer, because the numbers will be added together.
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