> 1764634251 166049 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Microwave14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169767&oldid=137054 5* 03PhilipNaveenn 5* (+2356) 10Updated Docs.
> 1764634298 320967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Microwave14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169768&oldid=169767 5* 03PhilipNaveenn 5* (+13) 10/* External Resources */
> 1764634319 150868 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Microwave14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169769&oldid=169768 5* 03PhilipNaveenn 5* (+7) 10/* External Resources */
< 1764639852 761628 :amby!~ambylastn@host-81-178-154-63.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
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> 1764651993 63401 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wuht14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169770&oldid=165539 5* 03Jk.NDC 5* (+19) 10
> 1764652102 595969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Jk.NDC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169771&oldid=165485 5* 03Jk.NDC 5* (+90) 10/* semi-Weekly Riddle */
> 1764652109 965764 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Jk.NDC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169772&oldid=169771 5* 03Jk.NDC 5* (+0) 10/* semi-Weekly Riddle */
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< 1764666331 740659 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1764667126 99771 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Yayimhere
< 1764667529 729295 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1764667544 91398 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi ais
< 1764667601 745726 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi Yayimhere
> 1764671007 573959 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underun14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169773&oldid=169730 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+0) 10/* Rewrite rules */
< 1764671261 722126 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :any cool esolangs I should read
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< 1764672113 777948 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't think of any recently (apart from the ones Keymaker just posted)
< 1764672146 591802 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm
< 1764672151 916945 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how sad
< 1764672157 376588 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(joke)
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< 1764672439 434172 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: Bytepusher, and think about how you can set up arithmetic on it with just a bunch of 256 byte long tables without needing a full 65536 byte sized table
< 1764672456 255892 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's an interesting exercise and when I first read about the machine I hadn't realized yet that it's possible
< 1764672461 443248 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: sure
< 1764672493 407771 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still don't quite like the machine, but I hate it less than when I had thought you'd be wasting your precious address space on several full 64 kilobyte sized tables
< 1764672566 761521 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :TODO: add Bytepusher to my list
< 1764672672 4264 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: also maybe just look at the short notes in https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:B_jonas/List and read whichever language has a short description catches your fancy, though I admit those descriptions are often rather opaque to anyone but me
< 1764672690 730674 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the descriptions seem fine to me
< 1764672710 942304 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: as i am not the biggest fancier of virtual machines, im just gonna do that
< 1764672719 50954 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw I think oerjan proved Countercall sub-TC but can't remember how the proof worked
< 1764672783 549455 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Xigxag used to be lumped with Dupdog as members of the "this is probably non-TC but hard to prove" family, they're fairly similar languages (but Xigxag is a lot more elegant)
< 1764672983 557141 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually Dupdog is pretty reminiscent of Smullyan's esolangs, but I don't think it has enough commands to be TC
< 1764673109 285295 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
< 1764673115 679623 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi APic
< 1764673122 66738 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello APic!
< 1764673497 56574 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmm
< 1764673509 403138 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :has anyone made like an "operator solving language"
< 1764673534 707713 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a language that creates operators by describing them by other operators
< 1764673543 766752 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and "solves" for them by those descriptions
< 1764673838 683173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'll probably want a few 4k (or at least 1k) byte sized tables for speed, but everything together should take no more than even on 64k table
< 1764673890 86541 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais52#: thank you, but you may have more of the necessary background than Yayim
< 1764673910 575542 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, oerjan proved Countercall sub-TC? this I'll be interested to hear
< 1764673916 721387 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: that idea reminds me of https://esolangs.org/wiki/Clue_(oklopol)
< 1764673937 538547 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think the proof might be in the logs somewhere, I don't remember what it was and didn't write it odwn
< 1764673954 447879 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: thats pretty close to what ive begun work on
< 1764674009 191058 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think Clue might have been the first time we had two esolangs with the same name
< 1764674021 437275 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wow
< 1764674053 446975 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I'm guilty about that too, I think I proved that dofuck without io (brainfuck without ui with bracket loops executing at least once) is turing-complete and you can translate brainfuck to it reasonably, but haven't written the proof down, there's only a few details in the chat logs
< 1764674123 902024 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there any name for a stack operator that, for the stack elements `A,B,C,D` returns `A,D,C,B`?
< 1764674128 510822 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think I did that too
< 1764674137 657745 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: which end's the top of the stack?
< 1764674155 447325 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the rightmost element in this case
< 1764674169 578085 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I vaguely remember seeing that before but don't know offhand whether it has a name
< 1764674230 196560 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, that's been independently proved multiple times
< 1764674265 962031 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also haven't written down much about some of the restricted Amycus and Amicus variants, and I've forgotten what I found by now
< 1764674308 374734 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's at least one interesting variant where I couldn't determine how much power it has
< 1764674465 984474 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye for now!!!
> 1764674483 472997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turing tarpit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169774&oldid=169718 5* 03None1 5* (-50) 10/* Survey */
< 1764675268 406797 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I am back
< 1764675564 703289 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :@pl \f x y z -> f z y x
< 1764675564 804965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :flip . (flip .) . flip
< 1764675584 787013 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm
< 1764675637 70192 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::t (flip .)
< 1764675639 118329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :(a1 -> a2 -> b -> c) -> a1 -> b -> a2 -> c
< 1764675651 41539 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep
< 1764675656 971267 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats it to my knowledge
< 1764675667 397649 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1764675680 621337 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course, functions parameters aren't actually stacks, usually
< 1764675685 9452 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the terminology can be similar sometimes
< 1764675685 897061 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1764675704 226204 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've experimented with implementing a stack as a long list of function arguments
< 1764675742 981724 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is that not quite similar to the underload-as-rewriting rule table?
< 1764675746 470363 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it almost works but there are practical problems with handling the bottom of the stack and doing things other than stack processing
< 1764675759 437957 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is, it's very similar, that's what made me experiment with it
< 1764675783 790328 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::t (flip id)
< 1764675785 284602 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea that makes sense
< 1764675785 904991 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b -> (b -> c) -> c
< 1764675846 202110 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops
< 1764675855 976688 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think just have made my language uncomputable
< 1764675858 471404 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :better change that!
< 1764676200 592212 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmm
< 1764676222 611771 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if underload is tc if : is replaced with :*
< 1764676225 671885 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops
< 1764676230 177338 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`:*`
< 1764676232 683470 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​:*`? No such file or directory
< 1764676245 536409 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1764676338 194038 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or alternatively `:^`
< 1764676949 1061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, that's interesting
< 1764676968 558785 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's still TC with :* because you could do a:*^ as the equivalent of :
< 1764676982 456909 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1764676984 321902 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :propably
< 1764676987 146907 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1764676988 77773 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul (a)(b)a:*^S(-)SS(-)SS
< 1764676988 105845 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b-b-a
< 1764677011 559269 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and with :^ I think you can do a:^~^~
< 1764677026 422669 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1764677030 327451 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul (a)(b)a:^~^~S(-)SS(-)SS
< 1764677030 388677 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b-b-a
< 1764677069 197271 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's some amount of slack in Underload to make new commands by combining other commands
< 1764677096 490579 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :7 makes use of that, it arranges the commands somewhat differently from Underload but you can still (sort of) go back and forth
< 1764677105 39386 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1764677129 857906 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if there exists a turing complete "oisc" of underload
< 1764677145 504131 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or...
< 1764677152 77428 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess thats `m^`
< 1764677426 400524 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OISCs kind-of need arguments to work correctly
< 1764677437 526708 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1764677450 289856 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :otherwise as soon as you have a non-halting program, all longer programs also have to be non-halting
< 1764677469 836704 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in `m^` m is sort of the only argument
< 1764677481 516740 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and `^` is the single command
< 1764677515 17233 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suspect there are lots of fundamentally different ways to write a 2ISC without arguments
< 1764677529 970629 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1764677540 456103 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :twisc
< 1764677559 735929 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :TISC could be either two or three (or possibly ten)
< 1764677594 767127 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1764677597 309827 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the names are jokes/parodies on RISC and CISC
< 1764677608 731468 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is a RISC now again
< 1764677625 127141 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1764677627 296767 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a processor where the machine code instructions are individually simple, and usually also orthogonal
< 1764677628 812157 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea that makes sense
< 1764677639 758148 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you can use any command with any argument
< 1764677656 567283 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea thats cool
< 1764677665 117462 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whereas CISCs tend to have both individually complicated instructions and lots of special cases
< 1764677714 630435 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :CISC mostly ended up winning because modern processors tend to translate the machine code into a different format internally anyway, so the only real effect that the instruction format has is to change how small or large programs are
< 1764677725 150179 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1764677727 919523 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and CISC is usually better-compressed
< 1764677775 130662 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, the two most popular processor architectures nowadays are x86-64 (CISC) and AArch64 (which is historically based on a RISC processor but I'm not sure how RISCy it still is)
< 1764677818 104687 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a few years ago basically everyone was on x86-64, but AArch64 has become surprisingly popular in a fairly short length of time and now they're both pretty reasonable architectures to target
< 1764677851 517572 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh interesting
< 1764677953 278229 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this is for laptop/desktop computers, rather than smartphones)
< 1764678444 994787 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:4073:6a24:b181:8b56 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1764680219 150652 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`blsq "L68 L30 R48 L5 R60 L55 L1 L99 R14 L82"wd 50Pp{g_**2&&-.jri.*pP.+100.%Pp}m[vvp\CL:z?L[   " not an auspicious beginning "vv
< 1764680221 55569 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :3
< 1764680237 977018 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :uuuuh
< 1764680701 325098 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at a wild guess, is this related to Advent of Code?
< 1764680749 154673 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't have any definitive evidence of this, but programs out of the blue in rarely-used languages in early December generally raise my suspicions
< 1764680749 753430 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, it's the only reason I ever interact with Burlesque.
> 1764682502 497475 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+-)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169775&oldid=148396 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* + */
> 1764682605 109879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Load14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169776 5* 03None1 5* (+2496) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}} '''load''' is yet [[oxen|another]] 4-instruction esolang invented by [[User:None1]], this time a real [[Turing tarpit]]. ==Memory== Seven accumulators: A-G are used. They contain unbounded ''signed'' integers. At first, A is 1 and others are 0. ==Commands== loa
> 1764682629 696602 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Load14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169777&oldid=169776 5* 03None1 5* (+3) 10/* Commands */
< 1764683652 78807 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:4073:6a24:b181:8b56 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
> 1764683674 237018 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Load14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169778 5* 03I am islptng 5* (+255) 10Created page with "Have a look at [[LinearModulo2]], also with 4 instructions(actually operators). There's also [[StackLinearModulo2]] which is likely more powerful but different. ~~~~"
< 1764683797 127002 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :RISC and CISC are marketing terms from the early 1980s.  Don't use them, they're actively harmful to understanding anything except that part of history
< 1764683916 831849 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how could the be harmful?
< 1764684098 536686 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :RISC and CISC were ways of talking around VAX, a machine where a perfectly normal ADDL3 instruction can make 6 independent memory accesses, and the MIPS R2000, which was one of the first cut down enough for a single-chip implementation, even leaving out multiplies
< 1764684144 456107 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was also one of the first single-chip microprocessors to use a pin grid array package large enough for a full 32-bit bus, which I think was more impactful than anything in the logical design
< 1764684155 300183 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :nothing that exists today even slightly resembles either of them
< 1764684202 703969 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :kids mentally map "x86" to "CISC" and "arm" to "RISC" and then try to apply the "lessons of the 1980s" in ways that don't actually make sense
> 1764684422 982724 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ELEMENTARY14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169779 5* 03Ais523 5* (+8020) 10about time this was documented  it's likely of interest to a range of esoprogrammers, despite not having been constructed as an esolang in the traditional sense
> 1764684450 578181 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169780&oldid=169753 5* 03Ais523 5* (+17) 10/* E */ +[[ELEMENTARY]]
< 1764684477 897277 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh
< 1764684481 506517 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :gonna go read that
< 1764684546 382111 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :early MIPS had fairly terrible code size partly because that was how things factored out with the 32 bit/cycle off-chip cache and partly because people weren't optimizing for "you want the bus to be idle as much as possible to save power" back then.  68k was suffering from a narrow bus so they had a much more immediate benefit from variable-length instructions
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> 1764684863 581353 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unfunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169782&oldid=161516 5* 03JIT 5* (+29) 10
< 1764684995 351191 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, now I'm wondering whether the semi-serious language list's inclusion criterion should be "the language must be complete for a non-arbitrary computational class", so Turing-complete, PDA-complete, LBA-complete, ELEMENTARY-complete, or the like
< 1764685026 675359 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even FSM-complete languages are probably usually interesting, even though most of our finite-state languages aren't
< 1764685055 695000 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and we should continue to allow languages that are almost TC but fail due to integer size / memory size limits)
< 1764685067 497792 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1764685643 425227 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I think it might be hard for some languages, to *prove*
< 1764685683 279497 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, I didn't realize BuzzFizz was LBA-complete until someone else pointed it out
< 1764685692 594113 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I knew it was an LBA but not that it was complete, and thought it wasn't)
< 1764685747 336972 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LBA?
< 1764685768 381907 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :linear-bounded automaton
< 1764685774 621615 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah yea
< 1764685976 951593 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how rare is it for a language to fall into its own computational class category
< 1764686018 54658 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's pretty rare for it to do that in an interesting way
< 1764686026 786799 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm
< 1764686044 343606 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :uninteresting examples are common, though, example-based languages often have their own computational class
< 1764686065 855614 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because they only support one or two specific programs
< 1764686070 406422 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1764686082 551862 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there any interesting ones?
< 1764686134 944959 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is the type of reduction relevant or is that fully determined by the X-complete?
< 1764686189 171423 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Feed_the_Chaos most recently
< 1764686227 191508 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorear: I think it's mostly obvious/uninteresting in practice, but I'm not sure it always is in theory, and there have been some awkward cases like the 2,3 Turing machine
< 1764686418 230268 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :particularly awkward case since the nontrivial background puts it outside the usual _problem_ definition for turing machines; what I had in mind was more "Turing or Karp and what are the complexity limits on the reducer"
< 1764686479 759205 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for TC reductions you can usually just say "the reducer has to terminate" and then it's only an interesting problem in cases where it doesn't
< 1764686496 414688 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for lower computational classes that isn't necessarily enough, but it's pretty rare for people to try to cheat on that
< 1764686516 27899 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I think it might still be enough for PDA/LBA but I'm not 100% sure (it isn't for FSM)
< 1764686616 592128 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think "FSM" is only really interesting in the presence of I/O, so you can say that the reducer doesn't have access to I/O and handle it that way
< 1764686644 463236 :sorear!sid184231@id-184231.uxbridge.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :for LBAs you get into questions like "linear in what"
< 1764686770 794660 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree that FSMs are only interesting if they do I/O
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> 1764687801 845471 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I/M Machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169783&oldid=158916 5* 03TBPO 5* (+38) 10/* Computational class */
> 1764687845 99067 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[074gn/14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169784&oldid=167314 5* 03JIT 5* (+7) 10
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< 1764688093 366970 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remembrered I made this a while ago, I wonder if its turing complete: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Turtle_just_want_to_dig
> 1764688150 348236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turtle just want to dig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169787&oldid=140162 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (-27) 10/* how it works */
> 1764688162 358512 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Topple/Topple 114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169788&oldid=168106 5* 03H33T33 5* (+51) 10
< 1764688275 641543 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: I'm not sure if there's a way to have the value of a counter affect control flow
< 1764688292 517279 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: hmm
< 1764688311 847271 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is for *one of them*
< 1764688318 477159 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since its the x
< 1764688329 201779 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but x is bounded
< 1764688354 687125 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the other is *not bounded*
< 1764688365 352652 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and can have multiple values since there can be multiple holes
< 1764688418 972573 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk!
< 1764688432 809977 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, I meant the unbounded counter
< 1764688439 457048 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmm
< 1764688452 647779 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can also technically move the õ to the left and right
< 1764688467 433496 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which mayhaps can be used as *some* sort of weird control flow
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< 1764688536 399159 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is an interesting problem!
< 1764688543 28618 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that probably doesn't work because if the top õ is in a position to move left or right, it can no longer be pushed downwards
< 1764688568 665795 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: it can, since the place moved two could be one where it could be pushed down
< 1764688589 787888 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: doesn't it prefer to move sideways rather than downwards, if it has a choice?
< 1764688614 837417 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: it does!
< 1764688630 651832 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if we we have like
< 1764688645 981823 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so as long as there's space beside it (e.g. a space it just moved from) it'll always prefer to go back to that space rather than moving downwards
< 1764688658 812947 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh
< 1764688659 787187 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1764688685 105086 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wbu `õ>` combinations
< 1764688689 902271 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is the sort of thing I look for when trying to prove an esolang non-Turing-complete
< 1764688711 861158 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is called the "arbitrary effect at an arbitary point" problem – the commands that make the language TC might exist, but you have no way to cause them to run at the correct moment
< 1764688766 8296 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1764688818 897444 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that mayhaps some interesting things are doable when using `>` since the pointer doesnt move let or right *with* the bug
< 1764689170 232615 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ive found an extension
< 1764689174 791916 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that I think ill add
> 1764689298 946991 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turtle just want to dig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169789&oldid=169787 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+198) 10/* how it works */ add two commands that would be *very* useful.
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< 1764689401 223900 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree those are useful, but they don't help with TCness because eventually the bug will be pushed below all the ( and ) commands
< 1764689413 374292 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1764689424 956114 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now ive gotten another idea
< 1764689444 244173 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm wondering what would happen if the bugs preferred to go down rather than sideways
< 1764689444 779432 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but im unsure if its too much modification too the point where it isnt close enough to the original language
< 1764689455 786686 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: that is interesting actually
< 1764689463 931510 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm still not sure it's TC but there are at least some interesting interactions between bugs then
< 1764689472 152003 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1764689583 707961 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I might just change it
< 1764689597 924987 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I did actually include it as such in the original definition
< 1764689605 32557 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :looking at the looping counter
> 1764689699 661760 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turtle just want to dig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169790&oldid=169789 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+50) 10/* how it works */
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< 1764690366 951892 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@197.184.125.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :changed!
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> 1764691488 533459 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:TBPO14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169794&oldid=169793 5* 03 5* (+82) 10/* Hey */
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> 1764692241 545955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:/Template:SignBRZ14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169796 5* 03 5* (+209) 10Created page with "{{SUBST:BG|green|[[User:|{{SUBST:FontColor|white|mario}}]]}}{{SUBST:BG|red|[[User talk:|{{SUBST:FontColor|white|maker}}]]}}"
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> 1764692833 143870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169799&oldid=169798 5* 03 5* (+12) 10
> 1764692903 51802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169800&oldid=169799 5* 03Ais523 5* (+597) 10/* Signature length */ new section
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> 1764693121 514466 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169802&oldid=169801 5* 03Ais523 5* (+445) 10an example of the length issue
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< 1764694901 263045 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, I hadn't seen https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Aadenboy/Live_stats before and it's kind-of terrifying
< 1764694933 79570 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I knew there had been a lot of (mostly poor-quality) esolangs created, but hadn't really taken in the rate at which it's happening
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< 1764698570 492127 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh that still works, nice
> 1764699153 806877 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Turing tarpit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169816&oldid=169752 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+243) 10/* BinaryLanguage should not be a tarpit */
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> 1764700534 711122 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Collatz Multiverse14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169818 5* 035anz 5* (+2520) 10Created page with "The Collatz Conjecture suggests that if you take any number, and apply the rules that if it's odd, you multiply it by 3 and add 1, and if it's even, divide it by 2, you eventually get stuck in a 4-2-1-4-2-1 loop. The Collatz Multiverse is the concept that instea
> 1764700659 351569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Helloworldimagery.png10]]"
> 1764700961 926365 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Rule110.png10]]"
> 1764700972 286762 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IMAGERY14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169821 5* 03 5* (+283) 10Created page with "'''IMAGERY''' is an esolang made by [[User:]] to program with images.  == Examples == === Hello, world! === [[File:Helloworldimagery.png|thumb]]                            === Nope. === [[File:Nope.png|thumb]]                            === Rule 110 === [[File:Rule110.png|thumb
> 1764701010 263327 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IMAGERY14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169822&oldid=169821 5* 03 5* (+69) 10
> 1764701090 843292 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas/List14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169823&oldid=168080 5* 03B jonas 5* (+250) 10BytePusher
< 1764701125 299845 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot oeis_r 2,6,30,210,2310
< 1764701136 554823 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: A002110 Primorial numbers (first definition): product of first n primes. Sometimes written prime(n)#. (Formerly M1691 N0668)1, 2, 6, 30, 210, 2310, 30030, 510510, 9699690, 223092870, 6469693230, 200560490130, 7420738134810, 304250263527210, 13082761331670030, 614889782588491410, 32589158477190044730, 1922760350154212639070, 117288381359406970983270, 7858321551080267055879090
> 1764701152 868561 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:/esolangs14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169824&oldid=169804 5* 03 5* (+13) 10
> 1764701170 180275 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:5anz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169825&oldid=155098 5* 035anz 5* (+130) 10/* Rhombitrihexagonal */
< 1764701171 438912 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ^ I recently added a user-defined implementation into perlbot. the builtin command oeis also works, but why rely on that when I can just define my own? this is a programmable bot after all
< 1764701209 590447 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, there should be a space after the right parenthesis. I guess the HTML doesn't always have a space there so I should add one manually when there isn't
> 1764701210 919675 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:5anz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169826&oldid=169825 5* 035anz 5* (+22) 10/* External recourses */
< 1764701221 447176 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: you've only mentioned this a dozen times, I KNOW
> 1764701224 684316 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:5anz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169827&oldid=169826 5* 035anz 5* (-1) 10/* External recourses */
> 1764701226 458542 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Turing tarpit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169828&oldid=169817 5* 03 5* (+610) 10/* BinaryLanguage should not be a tarpit */
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> 1764701835 154197 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Turing tarpit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169829&oldid=169828 5* 03Corbin 5* (+231) 10/* BinaryLanguage should not be a tarpit */
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> 1764702292 790286 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NumbersPlusWhat14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169830&oldid=150192 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+2) 10typos
> 1764702328 399369 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Og14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169831&oldid=85865 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702351 701321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OUI14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169832&oldid=156561 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702376 223739 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Replace14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169833&oldid=66875 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702418 246076 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Use of AI in esoteric languages14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169834&oldid=139414 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typos
> 1764702457 249707 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Drw14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169835&oldid=164206 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702497 638574 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FuckTheBit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169836&oldid=167443 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702532 645318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Strang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169837&oldid=169138 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702556 621012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CFCK14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169838&oldid=167828 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702576 708671 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SMIL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169839&oldid=43393 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702600 299043 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MineFriff14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169840&oldid=99079 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+1) 10typo
> 1764702897 807182 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bytemap14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169841&oldid=74878 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+2) 10typos
> 1764702947 347083 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07APOL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169842&oldid=93141 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (+0) 10typo
> 1764703259 103651 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Definition14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169843&oldid=162903 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-55) 10
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> 1764705105 767146 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LIMITED14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169844&oldid=169674 5* 03DadoDev 5* (+502) 10Added command set shrinking concept
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< 1764708257 153218 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :cu
> 1764708535 490850 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UnicodeLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169845&oldid=169751 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+111) 10Esolangist alt
> 1764708848 110834 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UnicodeLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169846&oldid=169845 5* 03Esolangist alt 5* (+133) 10Esolangist alt
> 1764711447 148482 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UnicodeLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169847&oldid=169846 5* 03 5* (+379) 10
> 1764712498 180552 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169848&oldid=169780 5* 03Buckets 5* (+10) 10
> 1764712521 886132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Buckets14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169849&oldid=169755 5* 03Buckets 5* (+9) 10
> 1764712535 176946 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ags14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169850 5* 03Buckets 5* (+1288) 10Created page with "Ags Is An Esoteric programming language Created by [[User:Buckets]] in 2021.  {| class="wikitable" |- ! Commands !! Instructions |- | PUSH m || It will Push the Next item Given To the program To stack m. |- | "" || Within the Quotes is a String and Will Be given To the prog
< 1764712729 525937 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I used the name "translation list" for the key/value list where the keys specify languages, according to your suggestion of "translation database".
> 1764713931 999666 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Deltayelta14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169851 5* 03Deltayelta 5* (+90) 10It's me :)
> 1764713975 790834 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Deltayelta14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169852&oldid=169851 5* 03Deltayelta 5* (+1) 10Why do you have to do two newlines to get one???
> 1764714108 308772 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Use of AI in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169853&oldid=169834 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+15) 10/* Other AI-related esolangs */ Add the missing language
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> 1764714454 611204 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Use of AI in esoteric languages14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169854 5* 03Corbin 5* (+290) 10Created page with "So, is this supposed to be a historical collection akin to [[prehistory of esoteric programming languages]] or [[timeline of esoteric programming languages]], or is it a clearinghouse for language-model output? ~~~~"
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> 1764714765 124650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iterate14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169855&oldid=168623 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+68) 10/* Loop amounts */ define undefined behavior
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> 1764715968 391145 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Use of AI in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169856&oldid=169854 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+497) 10this page is probably a hub for everything AI-related in esolanging
> 1764716216 185229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RaiseAfloppaFan392514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=169857&oldid=169766 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+212) 10
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> 1764716726 282716 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Deltayelta/Dredge14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=169858 5* 03Deltayelta 5* (+476) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Dredge |paradigms=imperative |author=[[User:Deltayelta]] |year=[[:Category:2025|2025]] |memsys=registers |dimensions=one-dimensional |class=[[:Category:Unknown computational class|Unknown]] |influence=[[wikipedia:LOOP (programmi
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