> 1778112819 520780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Magnesium14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181106&oldid=181096 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (-2) 10/* Commands */ no
> 1778114549 480291 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Envy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181107 5* 03Las-r 5* (+2158) 10Create page.
> 1778114591 541544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Las-r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181108&oldid=176786 5* 03Las-r 5* (+55) 10/* esolangs ive made */
> 1778114645 308621 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Syssolu14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181109&oldid=169966 5* 03Miui 5* (+99) 10
> 1778114646 678846 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Envy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181110&oldid=181107 5* 03Las-r 5* (+115) 10Add categories
> 1778114676 769403 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Envy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181111&oldid=181110 5* 03Las-r 5* (+1) 10
> 1778114921 579391 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Envy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181112&oldid=181111 5* 03Las-r 5* (-47) 10
> 1778115089 730487 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Metrolung 5*  10New user account
> 1778115117 981219 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Las-r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181113&oldid=181108 5* 03Las-r 5* (+18) 10
> 1778115165 516805 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Las-r14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181114&oldid=181113 5* 03Las-r 5* (+34) 10
> 1778115202 605698 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Infinautomata14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181115 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+1287) 10Created page with "'''Infinautomata''' is a [[Cellular automaton|cellular automaton]] definer and player with a CSS-derived look and slightly annoying comments. The first thing you must do is specify a rule using a  rule {  } template. For instance, to activate the Seeds ru
> 1778115292 647669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181116&oldid=181092 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+20) 10/* I */
> 1778115306 561615 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Ccrainx 5*  10New user account
> 1778115381 53386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Infinautomata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181117&oldid=181115 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+47) 10
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< 1778118262 801324 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do I call the IBM 1401 instruction set "1401 instruction set" on zzo38's page, like "S/360" doesn't mention IBM when I put it there?
> 1778118505 636234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181118&oldid=180881 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+234) 101401 compare
< 1778118513 878912 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like I phrased that badly
< 1778118527 425440 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :But BCD sort order is different from BCD bit patterns
< 1778118538 488169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I shouldn't be implying that that's 1401 specific
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< 1778120738 200204 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :The wiki says to go to esoteric-blah to fool with HackEso, but I assume that's outdated. Is there a new channel for that?
< 1778121194 328988 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: #esolangs-blah
< 1778121201 455789 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but private message also works
> 1778121301 138458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HackEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181120&oldid=133235 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+0) 10#esolangs-blah
> 1778121559 555541 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HackEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181121&oldid=181120 5* 03B jonas 5* (+0) 10main IRC channel name
< 1778122183 626954 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Aww there's a file size limit? And Hercules exceeds it?
< 1778122200 770938 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or at least this .tar.gz source stuff seems to
< 1778122596 985095 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :"In particular, you should not try commands such as mv /hackenv/tmp/file /hackenv/bin/file" Is there a correct way to do this?
< 1778122847 918873 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: copy instead of move. then you may delete the original in a later command.
< 1778122876 620369 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :by which I mean in a later line that you send to HackEso, after you verified that the copy was successful
< 1778122996 190581 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for the file size limit, if that's an obstacle, you can try to ask fizzie for help
< 1778123165 646118 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :ty
< 1778123202 135900 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :<Sgeo> `` altairz80l64
< 1778123202 260919 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :<HackEso> Sorry, HackEgo's sandbox currently has no web access. However, see `? `fetch \  \ Altair 8800 (Z80) simulator Open SIMH V4.1-0 Current        git commit id: 10003113 \ sim>
< 1778123205 712508 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's... a weird result
< 1778123222 526539 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also without a reasonable command file I assume that simh will close in 30sec
< 1778123440 614883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs : `edit is borked without Python
< 1778124166 516272 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I appear to have polluted /hackenv/ and am unable to unpollute it
< 1778124327 108835 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: it's version-controlled so we can revert it if neseccary
< 1778124331 347262 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh
< 1778124332 835216 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :necessary
> 1778124466 650163 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Magnesium14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181122&oldid=181119 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+92) 10add refimpl
< 1778124570 844751 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't understand how the files are there but not stattable
> 1778126799 197650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Forth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181123&oldid=91449 5* 03TheCatFromGithub 5* (-2) 10grammar and stuff
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> 1778129342 407391 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181124&oldid=181105 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+167) 10/* A template for drafts. */
> 1778129506 973346 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181125&oldid=181124 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+7) 10/* A template for drafts. */
> 1778131866 773273 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Asm-8Cat14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181126 5* 03Timm 5* (+24) 10Created page with "next day!  {{Made|Timm}}"
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> 1778131890 342166 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Timm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181127&oldid=180664 5* 03Timm 5* (+16) 10
> 1778132015 223303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~!SayWrite14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181128&oldid=180654 5* 03Timm 5* (+70) 10
> 1778135203 554176 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:ProjectEuler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181129&oldid=141869 5* 03Miui 5* (+224) 10/* candidate for Category:Miraculous */ new section
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< 1778136371 870927 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1778137695 631262 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181130&oldid=181074 5* 03Miui 5* (+207) 10/* Characterization of Miracle langs: */
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< 1778138513 995454 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The "sandbox currently has no web access" message is something printed by /hackenv/bin/{curl,lynx,wget}, which suggests that that command tried to call one of them.
> 1778138656 571869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181131&oldid=181077 5* 03Miui 5* (+223) 10/* re:"Metacategorization"#Consolidation proposal: new Category:Miraculous */
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< 1778138786 679245 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Looking at the AltairZ80 code, that would appear to be from it calling `curl --version` as part of constructing version details (it uses that for the CURL tool).
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> 1778145202 770250 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 032ndbeam 5*  10New user account
< 1778148781 223635 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine
< 1778150344 457281 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Moin
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< 1778151434 642905 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as a workaround, you should probably remove /hackenv from PATH when you run it
< 1778151441 808275 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` echo $PATH
< 1778151446 124372 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin
< 1778151473 261879 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: ^
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< 1778156386 341742 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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< 1778158086 107416 :amby!~ambylastn@79-77-115-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN #esolangs * :realname
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> 1778160075 84802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181132&oldid=181131 5* 03Miui 5* (+384) 10/* re:"Metacategorization"#Consolidation proposal: new Category:Miraculous */
< 1778160634 193747 :DOS_User_webchat!~DOS_User_@user/DOS-User:11249 JOIN #esolangs DOS_User :[https://web.libera.chat] DOS_User_webchat
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> 1778161270 979112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181133&oldid=181132 5* 03Ais523 5* (+502) 10/* re:"Metacategorization"#Consolidation proposal: new Category:Miraculous */ I don't understand this proposal
> 1778161465 45402 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181134&oldid=181133 5* 03Ais523 5* (+515) 10/* Fictional programming languages (aka Languages desined for a spefic universe/timeline) */ the advertising around a language doesn't make a good basis for a category (and these pages should be corrected to list the actual rather than claimed situation)
> 1778161554 214969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181135&oldid=180757 5* 03None1 5* (+92) 10
> 1778162918 408152 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Texter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181136&oldid=124704 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+826) 10Supplemented two further examples, introduced a twissel of page category tags, and inserted a hyperlink to my interpreter implementation in Common Lisp.
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> 1778166306 948703 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181137&oldid=181134 5* 03Corbin 5* (+373) 10/* re:"Metacategorization"#Consolidation proposal: new Category:Miraculous */
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> 1778167817 347575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Calculator (program form)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181138&oldid=181080 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+27689) 10add the rest of the languages indexed by search
> 1778168362 617896 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Hammy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181139&oldid=180955 5* 03Hammy 5* (-1013) 10removing some mess
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> 1778171473 59399 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePentuplets4814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181140&oldid=181095 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+221) 10
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> 1778172902 855857 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181141 5* 03Danieland! 5* (+756) 10Created page with "<pre> // c2 was made by [[User:Danieland!]] // how to do any thing you want: // set a var 1x2f 0x3d 0x00 1x1 // 1x is negative // the first input is var // default val: 0xfffd for vars // set to second input if 4 input = 0x1 or 0x11 // goto function in line third input if 
> 1778173335 987790 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03SnwBlls 5*  10New user account
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> 1778177513 911827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ndirae14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181142 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+2181) 10Created page with "'''ndirae''' is yet another programming language I made up, this time using a sowing-based loop-over system starting at the middle. The first part of your code should look like this:  {}{} . . . {}   {}{} . . . {}   {}{} . . . {}  {}{} . . . {}   {}{} . . . {}  
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> 1778178334 659454 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181143&oldid=181116 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (-56) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
> 1778178514 675766 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181144&oldid=181143 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+8) 10
> 1778178616 843663 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181145&oldid=181144 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+17) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
< 1778178859 810704 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :They're just going to keep editing [[language list]] for as long as it exists. Please pay down the technical debt.
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> 1778183764 845427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181147&oldid=181137 5* 03Miui 5* (+238) 10/* Candidates */
> 1778184934 114303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181148&oldid=181130 5* 03Miui 5* (+248) 10/* Characterization of Miracle langs: */
> 1778185507 558349 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181149&oldid=181147 5* 03Miui 5* (+130) 10/* Sources: */
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< 1778193725 605233 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a way to run 32-bit binaries on HackEso?
< 1778193752 947794 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also is it ok to download closed-source programs onto HackEso?
< 1778194135 847839 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some pro-PL/1 anti-C propaganda https://eberhard-sturm.de/ZIV/PL1andC.html
< 1778194553 745888 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: closed source yes, but if you don't have a license to distribute the binary than possibly no, since anyone can download whatever you install in there
< 1778194963 848463 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Iron Spring Software grants you the right to use and copy the Iron Spring PL/I compiler and library freely. You may distribute programs compiled using the compiler and/or linked with the library under any terms you wish without restriction. The source to the library is licensed under the terms of the Gnu Lesser General Public License (LGPL).
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< 1778195240 246919 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not entirely sure the official Debian container image is amenable to multiarch support, since it'd be kind of weird in that context. And it would take some space (which is in somewhat short supply).
< 1778195264 628342 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A statically linked x86-32 binary I imagine should Just Work™, though. Unless there's some quirks in that due to UML.
< 1778195348 530951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` file /hackenv/pli-1.4.1/pli-1.4.1/plic
< 1778195352 705923 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​/hackenv/pli-1.4.1/pli-1.4.1/plic: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel i386, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped
< 1778195527 243576 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Interesting.
< 1778196177 447690 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It is a little hard to find definite material about this, but it does look like it might be the case that the Debian `user-mode-linux` package configures the UML kernel not to support 32-bit binaries.
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< 1778196229 461273 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or at least the allegedly relevant kernel config options (`CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION`, `CONFIG_COMPAT`) do not appear in https://salsa.debian.org/uml-team/user-mode-linux/-/blob/master/config.amd64
< 1778196277 592530 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :If so, then it's likely not really feasible, because I'd really rather rely on Debian's prebuilt UML binaries.
< 1778196360 789049 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a way for a command to temporarily do networkish stuff just internally? e.g. if I tell simh to listen on a port and immediately send data to the port in the meantime
< 1778196502 429573 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Depends on whether the loopback interface gets configured, I guess.
< 1778196504 944226 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` ip -4 addr
< 1778196508 78322 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 \     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo \        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
< 1778196541 262107 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, I'd imagine that should work fine, modulo possibly slightly draconian ulimit restrictions.
< 1778196724 610708 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :As it happens, there's also an incidental socat binary installed on the system, because that's what the bot itself uses, and the UML guest inherits /usr from it.
< 1778196810 755247 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` (sleep 1; echo hello | socat -u STDIN TCP-CONNECT:127.0.0.1:13524) & socat -u TCP-LISTEN:13524 STDOUT
< 1778196815 101371 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
< 1778196859 619223 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Just to be clear, though, it all has to be within a single IRC message.
< 1778196915 636802 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I... think I might not need that.
< 1778196916 778509 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's absolutely no persistence (beyond the contents of /hackenv) from one message to another. A new Linux kernel instance boots for every message.
< 1778196942 836679 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, but it's easy enough to write anything to the file system for persistence
< 1778196959 66470 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like parts of a longer command that you will execute later
< 1778197043 622826 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, depending. If you're using an emulator of some kind, it would need to support (de)serializing its state for leveraging that as a persistence mechanism.
< 1778197055 733437 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, the 30 second limit for commands applies
< 1778197076 595072 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that came up when I was compiling some non-small programs locally on HackEso
< 1778197092 947317 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fortunately each compilation unit was small enough, so I just had to re-run make a few times
< 1778197114 590676 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also as a general rule of thumb, please don't store that sort of persistence outside of /hackenv/tmp, because the version-controlled part is _already_ a little unwieldy.)
< 1778197119 876276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :attach sio whatever looks like it will cause the emulator to read from whatever
< 1778197253 355688 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: Thanks for sharing. PL/I truly looks like suffering. Worse than Ada, I'd guess.
< 1778197278 911718 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And more generally it's probably best to do pretty much all exploration that involves more than a megabyte of data in /hackenv/tmp and only move things outside if and when they actually become usable, that way there's no permanent disk space consumption for things that didn't pan out.)
< 1778197325 219903 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :>.> oops
< 1778197452 208910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` rm -r /hackenv/pli-1.4.1
< 1778197457 612694 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Safe to say that one didn't work
< 1778197460 996540 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output.
< 1778197489 138638 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah. /hackenv/tmp is supposedly temporary and could be cleared at any time, but in practice its contents have lasted for many years by now
< 1778197600 57298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure why my sio stuff isn't working as I'd hoped