< 1778198955 594574 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I ran that last command from the command line, and it produced the following output: https://zem.fi/tmp/cpm-out.txt < 1778198966 12153 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not sure why that wouldn't have been captured when executed by the bot, though in general the output handling via UML fake terminal devices can get a little quirky. < 1778199016 997423 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, there's no output if I add a `| cat` at the end. < 1778199063 848584 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which usually means something along the chain switched from unbuffered or line-buffered output into a fully-buffered mode, did not complete a full block of output, and then terminated due to the timeout. < 1778200150 285024 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: by the way, https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2026-03.html#lAC is wrong, it's called Rem instead of Mod because the method isn't called mod because mod is a keyword for making namespaces in Rust. < 1778200547 935499 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: no, line-buffering is the fault of the /hackenv/bin/\` and /hackenv/bin/\`\` commands, because those invoke the rnooodl filter that's implemented in a silly way and only lets through full lines. I was considering to replace them with a better implementation at some point, but eventually hadn't done it. < 1778200600 562501 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` (w=25; echo -n $s$' hello\nworld'; sleep $w) < 1778200607 2256 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` (w=35; echo -n $s$' hello\nworld'; sleep $w) < 1778200645 62887 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1778200648 716593 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1778200651 296825 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` (w=15; echo -n $s$' hello\nworld'; sleep $w) < 1778200678 949569 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​ hello \ world < 1778200710 395827 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`run echo run hello; echo -n world; sleep 35 < 1778200739 378990 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` echo backtick hello; echo -n world; sleep 35 < 1778200749 168510 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :run hello \ world < 1778200781 580242 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1778200892 235980 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: ^ the \` or \`` commands might swallow output if their command times out. use a different command if this may be a problem, or save important output to a file. < 1778201070 206047 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The output in question had more than one line, though. < 1778201168 668848 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's in general a thing in C facilities that the standard output stream becomes fully buffered if the output is not an interactive device, which isn't something the receiving end of the pipe has any control over. < 1778201642 468675 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1778201732 401905 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though it is probably true that that's unrelated to what was eating the output there, because as I recall, umlbox itself by default will make the output of the executed command be a pipe (with the rationale that some commands may switch to a more IRC-friendly output when that's the case). < 1778201788 430385 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`run echo -e '#include \n #include \n int main(void) { printf("default\\nfully\\nbuffered\\n"); sleep(35); }' | gcc -x c - -o /tmp/x && /tmp/x < 1778201808 262440 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`run echo -e '#include \n #include \n int main(void) { printf("overridden\\nto\\nunbuffered\\n"); sleep(35); }' | gcc -x c - -o /tmp/x && stdbuf -o0 /tmp/x < 1778201826 992248 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1778201844 933466 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :overridden \ to \ unbuffered < 1778201943 637238 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :On a mostly unrelated note, there should possibly be some sort of an extra marker that the timeout ended up getting triggered. < 1778203571 429516 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, the umlbox behavior was a little subtler than that. The Python side does `cat_output=not os.isatty(1)`, and the init binary then adds a built-in pipe into cat if that's set. So it may still play a role here, because as mentioned I get that output when calling umlbox from the command line, but not when I pipe that into cat, neither of which involves rnooodl. < 1778203854 977054 :chloetax5!~chloe@user/chloetax JOIN #esolangs chloetax :chloe < 1778203909 82159 :chloetax!~chloe@user/chloetax QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1778203909 332149 :chloetax5!~chloe@user/chloetax NICK :chloetax < 1778204150 183193 :lisbeths!uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1778204238 601665 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1778204277 332 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: the examples above show that `` might eat output even if it's more than one line if the command times out though, so it's not *just* lines < 1778204331 153799 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` /bin/echo hello; /bin/echo -n world; sleep 35 # invoking /bin/echo to make sure they definitely flush after printing < 1778204356 550341 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is eating the input is the rnooodle filter < 1778204372 584595 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1778204385 887185 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` /bin/echo hello; /bin/echo -n world; sleep 15 < 1778204416 456717 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello \ world < 1778204417 219668 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`run /bin/echo run hello; /bin/echo -n world; sleep 35 < 1778204452 353197 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :run hello \ world < 1778205081 663384 :amby!~ambylastn@79-77-115-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1778205092 913603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :???? what's with the dots < 1778205093 789865 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :`run echo -e "TYPE ELIZA.BAS\n" >/hackenv/tmp/cpmrun.txt; cd /hackenv/cpm2.d/; PATH=/usr/bin /hackenv/bin/altairz80l64 run; cat /hackenv/tmp/cpmrun.txt < 1778205138 986052 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​ \ Altair 8800 (Z80) simulator Open SIMH V4.1-0 Current git commit id: 10003113 \ . \ 64K CP/M Version 2.2 (SIMH ALTAIR 8800, BIOS V1.27, 2 HD, 02-May-2009). \ . \ A>TYPE ELIZA.BAS.. \ 5 \ . \ A> < 1778205797 298305 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :dunno, I think those might be coming from something you installed < 1778206297 294605 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1778206425 170272 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :The mainframe turnkeys are on the orders of hundreds of megs, that's probably too much < 1778206557 329894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :DOS/VS is ~64MB, don't know if it has PL/I on it < 1778206573 393130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Might be a good excuse to learn DOS/VS though < 1778207007 693623 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :CRLF newlines, most likely. < 1778207028 835487 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :HackEso translates the characters \x00, \x01 and \r into '.'. < 1778207062 341823 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And \n into ' \ '.) < 1778207092 477307 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -e'"0\x00r\rn\ne"' < 1778207096 676307 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -e'print"0\x00r\rn\ne"' < 1778207108 465376 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1778207109 931125 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eprint"0\x00r\rn\ne" < 1778207110 828389 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1778207123 423996 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :0.r.n \ e < 1778207128 633593 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh it does < 1778208304 149746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Someone is chatting with me and is telling me how limited that PL/I is < 1778208788 417079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/rcornwell/sims/blob/master/IBM360/DOS.txt exists > 1778210625 113651 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ReversibleFerrariMSB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181164&oldid=180760 5* 03Miui 5* (+191) 10/* Cobra Cardog execution */ > 1778211096 357867 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:OwOlang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181165 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+112) 10Created page with "=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=" > 1778211201 294026 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:OwOlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181166&oldid=181165 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+139) 10/* Typo I noticed */ new section > 1778211228 721555 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:OwOlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181167&oldid=181166 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (-251) 10Blanked the page > 1778211399 861174 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:HAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181168&oldid=96139 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+181) 10/* Typo I just fixed */ new section > 1778211449 131327 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181169&oldid=101831 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+0) 10 > 1778211955 898252 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ReversibleFerrariMSB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181170&oldid=181164 5* 03Miui 5* (+6) 10/* Hello, World! */ > 1778212236 944472 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ReversibleFerrariMSB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181171&oldid=181170 5* 03Miui 5* (+92) 10/* See Also */ > 1778212336 450162 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Oragami14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181172&oldid=181047 5* 03Miui 5* (-94) 10/* 2. GNU Multi-precision Arithmetic */ > 1778212425 546394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Oragami14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181173&oldid=181172 5* 03Miui 5* (-8) 10/* 2. GNU Multi-precision Arithmetic */ > 1778212484 958606 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ReversibleFerrariMSB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181174&oldid=181171 5* 03Miui 5* (+23) 10/* racecar workers and Ferrari services */ > 1778212560 391417 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mental Shakespeare14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181175&oldid=180503 5* 03Miui 5* (+19) 10 > 1778212714 957105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Memristor14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181176&oldid=180935 5* 03Miui 5* (+56) 10 > 1778212920 281199 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A bliss-pit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181177&oldid=180872 5* 03Miui 5* (+41) 10/* See also */ > 1778213016 806597 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cain and Abel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181178&oldid=180936 5* 03Miui 5* (+21) 10 > 1778213061 411128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181179&oldid=180919 5* 03Miui 5* (+22) 10 > 1778213092 15198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Abysys14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181180&oldid=180923 5* 03Miui 5* (+22) 10 > 1778213225 159031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated /PSTF Again414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181181&oldid=150368 5* 03Miui 5* (+38) 10 > 1778213466 120655 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Old Joe's Milkshake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181182&oldid=180972 5* 03Miui 5* (+83) 10 < 1778215518 817711 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://sky-visions.com/IBM360/ looks... promising < 1778215630 8439 :lisbeths!uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs lisbeths :lisbeths < 1778215666 28820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Except for S370. That does not look promising. < 1778215683 627746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I know how to use vm and I hope IBM360 works with these > 1778218153 525002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mental Shakespeare14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181183&oldid=181175 5* 03Miui 5* (+30) 10 > 1778218349 649128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ReversibleFerrariMSB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181184&oldid=181174 5* 03Miui 5* (+19) 10 > 1778218481 189224 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181185&oldid=161677 5* 03Miui 5* (+56) 10 > 1778218925 348037 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181186&oldid=181150 5* 03Miui 5* (+382) 10/* favorite esoquotes */ > 1778219220 787699 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181187&oldid=149254 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+22) 10"Shameful" is part of this language's history, removing the necessarily non-existent category breaks multiple references on talk pages and elsewhere > 1778219349 164206 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181188&oldid=181179 5* 03Miui 5* (+364) 10 > 1778219409 172741 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181189&oldid=181188 5* 03Miui 5* (+22) 10 > 1778219837 639819 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181190&oldid=181186 5* 03Miui 5* (+20) 10 > 1778219964 241298 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181191&oldid=181189 5* 03Miui 5* (+60) 10 > 1778220136 835326 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181192&oldid=181191 5* 03Miui 5* (+112) 10/* Genotype */ > 1778220264 91794 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181193&oldid=181192 5* 03Miui 5* (+45) 10/* Genotype */ > 1778220394 409223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181194&oldid=181193 5* 03Miui 5* (+22) 10/* See also */ > 1778220485 18647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181195&oldid=181194 5* 03Miui 5* (-40) 10 > 1778220753 955910 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181196&oldid=181195 5* 03Miui 5* (+225) 10 > 1778220901 898552 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181197&oldid=181196 5* 03Miui 5* (+27) 10/* See also */ > 1778221167 365438 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Matrioshka language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181198&oldid=98143 5* 03Miui 5* (+21) 10 > 1778221268 730080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Matrioshka language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181199&oldid=145832 5* 03Miui 5* (+49) 10/* Thematic Concept */ new section > 1778221505 311662 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cain and Abel14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181200&oldid=181178 5* 03Miui 5* (-8) 10/* girls & plants */ > 1778221602 664429 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181201&oldid=181197 5* 03Miui 5* (+2) 10/* Speciosa */ < 1778221845 139788 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1778222227 530864 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181202&oldid=181201 5* 03Miui 5* (+153) 10 > 1778222267 375985 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181203&oldid=181202 5* 03Miui 5* (-1) 10/* Program forms */ > 1778222334 252419 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181204&oldid=178850 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+58) 10 > 1778222349 556653 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Data and the Nymphir14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181205&oldid=181203 5* 03Miui 5* (+12) 10/* Program forms */ < 1778224104 194688 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1778224569 101752 :joast!~joast@2603:90d8:500:31cf:5e0f:3f4b:1cfe:5060 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1778225182 920399 :lisbeths!uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1778225528 648828 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1778225572 860141 :joast!~joast@2603:90d8:500:31cf:5e0f:3f4b:1cfe:5060 JOIN #esolangs joast :joast < 1778226050 804694 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1778232750 905534 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi < 1778233195 772599 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1778234018 190856 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1778234384 147204 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Mechazawa 5* 10New user account < 1778238198 975297 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1778242712 100200 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1778243607 380127 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1778245441 423323 :amby!~ambylastn@79-77-115-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN #esolangs amby :realname < 1778246188 522454 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1778247444 688628 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181206&oldid=181163 5* 03Miui 5* (+54) 10/* Candidates */ > 1778247461 180590 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181207&oldid=181206 5* 03Miui 5* (-1) 10/* =Characteristics */ > 1778247589 552333 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181208&oldid=181207 5* 03Miui 5* (+51) 10/* Candidates */ > 1778248315 885017 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181209&oldid=181208 5* 03Miui 5* (+245) 10/* Characterization of Miracle langs: */ > 1778248364 939318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181210&oldid=181209 5* 03Miui 5* (+2) 10/* Characteristics */ > 1778248391 209619 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181211&oldid=181210 5* 03Miui 5* (+6) 10/* Characteristics */ > 1778248787 444091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181212&oldid=181211 5* 03Miui 5* (+127) 10/* Characterization of Miracle langs: */ > 1778248807 370895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181213&oldid=181212 5* 03Miui 5* (-1) 10/* =result */ > 1778249249 285113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Usernames14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181214&oldid=180992 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+846) 10 > 1778249542 533169 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181215&oldid=178583 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+387) 10 > 1778249634 65217 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181216&oldid=181213 5* 03Miui 5* (-14) 10/* Adjacent + Real */ > 1778249652 793315 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181217&oldid=181216 5* 03Miui 5* (-24) 10/* Adjacent + Real */ > 1778249831 397487 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181218&oldid=181217 5* 03Miui 5* (+87) 10/* Meronym */ > 1778249928 18647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181219&oldid=181218 5* 03Miui 5* (+35) 10/* result */ > 1778250096 782824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181220&oldid=181153 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+182) 10 > 1778250398 716422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181221&oldid=181219 5* 03Miui 5* (+213) 10/* Realization */ > 1778250659 447410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181222 5* 03Miui 5* (+2967) 10Created page with "'''Linguistic Category:Math'''! A Language! Comedic! Scientific! == Category proposal. == Apologies for the few mentions I've accrued in the past few weeks. I've been using a mobile device and its a bit troublesome getting my work edited properly with it > 1778250698 786783 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181223&oldid=181222 5* 03Miui 5* (+1) 10/* Language */ > 1778250732 327550 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181224&oldid=181223 5* 03Miui 5* (-329) 10/* Category proposal. */ < 1778250751 362159 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1778250915 798937 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181225&oldid=181224 5* 03Miui 5* (-8) 10 > 1778250959 853571 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181226&oldid=181225 5* 03Miui 5* (+19) 10 > 1778251024 266000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181227&oldid=181226 5* 03Miui 5* (+59) 10 > 1778251439 257664 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ProjectEuler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181228&oldid=138689 5* 03Miui 5* (+24) 10test > 1778251539 152517 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I Ate 562 Metric Tons Of Air And Now I Am Floating Into The Atmosphere's Various Layers At Approximately 0.401 Meters Per Second. If I Had Not Ate That Much Air Then I Would Be Fine Right Now. Now I Have To Exhale All Of This Air. The Lesson Here Is To No14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181229&oldid=170955 5* 03Miui 5* (+24) 10implemented Miraculous > 1778251604 772057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181230&oldid=181190 5* 03Miui 5* (+60) 10/* eternal scope */ > 1778251634 613727 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181231 5* 03Miui 5* (+54) 10Created page with "not a joke just the name of the category type language" < 1778251796 307410 :lynndotpy6093627!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 QUIT :Quit: bye bye < 1778251813 913714 :lynndotpy6093627!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 JOIN #esolangs lynndotpy :lynn > 1778252150 113928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181232&oldid=181155 5* 03Miui 5* (+376) 10/* Category::Antimiraculous */ < 1778252271 808988 :lynndotpy6093627!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 QUIT :Quit: bye bye < 1778252352 393619 :lynndotpy6093627!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 JOIN #esolangs lynndotpy :lynn < 1778252764 272574 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1778253349 715658 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RaiseAfloppaFan392514]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181233&oldid=181035 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+448) 10re-add kasane and skilsaw < 1778255379 194800 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Somebody please fix [[User:ProjectEuler]], a program form that has become attached to a user for some reason. > 1778256881 102898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Project Euler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181234&oldid=138686 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (-31) 10can't seem to move with this in the way even though it's a redirect... > 1778256909 847773 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Project Euler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181235&oldid=181234 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+38) 10testing > 1778256935 538563 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Project Euler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181236&oldid=181235 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (-7) 10Changed redirect target from [[Project Euler (language)]] to [[User:ProjectEuler]] < 1778258426 320759 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1778258453 770579 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: voicing-insensitive identifiers seemed like a pretty unlikely reason to name the trait Rem rather than Mod anyway :-D < 1778258615 19595 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1778258703 868759 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1778258811 381732 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1778259129 756842 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we need a file system mount option, a compiler setting for Fortran (we have to figure out the interaction with implicitly declared variables because normally a variable whose name starts with K defaults to integer but one whose names starts with G defaults to float), and a linker < 1778259191 734903 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and a casefolding rule for IRC, which would apply to channel names and usernames. it's fine if it doesn't apply to channel mode or user mode letters, those are already case sensitive when channel names and usernames are case insensitive. < 1778259246 406503 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1778259303 920472 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and maybe a third set of abbreviations of SI units and prefixes, with some way to distinguish between milli, micro, nano, and mega. < 1778259775 12881 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1778260278 620236 :joast!~joast@2603:90d8:500:31cf:5e0f:3f4b:1cfe:5060 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. > 1778260411 147896 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I Ate 562 Metric Tons Of Air And Now I Am Floating Into The Atmosphere's Various Layers At Approximately 0.401 Meters Per Second. If I Had Not Ate That Much Air Then I Would Be Fine Right Now. Now I Have To Exhale All Of This Air. The Lesson Here Is To No14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181237&oldid=181229 5* 03Ais523 5* (-24) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/1812 < 1778260424 996308 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1778260442 711284 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ProjectEuler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181238&oldid=181228 5* 03Ais523 5* (-24) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181228|181228]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) rm addition of unapproved category > 1778260854 150904 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181239&oldid=181227 5* 03Miui 5* (+317) 10 < 1778260885 18836 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess a compiler could have several different case folding settings for different kinds of identifiers, each of which you could set to case-sensitive, case-insensitive, case-and-voice-insensitive. you'd have one for names local to the compilation unit, one for extern names, one for what rule to assume the linker will use (so that eg. the compiler mangles fortran function names to lowercase), one for C < 1778260891 194659 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :struct/union tags (which supposedly have to match across compilation units, but in practice aren't mangled so only a sufficiently smart link-time optimizer will care about), one for C++ struct type names, one for C++ typedef names (where one name could have a different meaning in different compilation units, but if one is used inside the definition of a struct then they do have to match), etc. > 1778260971 876050 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181240&oldid=181239 5* 03Miui 5* (+30) 10 < 1778261603 545243 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine < 1778261747 789632 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1778263481 825101 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not to sound like a deletionist but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Presumptive_removal_of_AI-generated_content > 1778265311 650201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181241&oldid=181240 5* 03Miui 5* (+142) 10/* Usecase */ > 1778265411 920046 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181242&oldid=181241 5* 03Miui 5* (+65) 10/* Usecase */ < 1778265578 860241 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: there is a lot of incomprehensible content being added to the wiki recently, and I partly blame you for it – most people can't distinguish between writing everything in terms of category-theoretic terminology without further explanation, and whatever User:Miui is doing < 1778265601 842826 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ideally Esolang would be written in a way that people can understand without specialist training, as it has a lot of enthusiastic amateurs > 1778265666 244365 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181243&oldid=181242 5* 03Miui 5* (+4) 10/* Hello, World */ !& > 1778265671 789309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Baudot 5* 10New user account < 1778265762 76304 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I'm happy to leave. I'm also happy to see everything I write be replaced. But, like, what an attitude to have when LLM-powered chatbots are *right there* as a culprit. < 1778265774 574264 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I wasn't talking about LLM-created pages in that < 1778265776 319272 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1778265777 32159 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :those have their own issues < 1778265787 937811 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do think you're a net positive to the wiki < 1778265795 993903 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I also think you struggle to understand most of the other users on it < 1778265798 709207 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think Miui and PSTF are using some sort of machine translator. I don't care whether we call it LLMs or chatbots. < 1778265814 768366 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't get that impression from Miui at all < 1778265837 680595 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(as in, I think their content is intentionally designed to be that incomprehensible, as opposed to it being a side effect of machine translation) < 1778265846 711188 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :machine-translations don't attempt to use seventh-level headings, for example < 1778265884 433370 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't really struggle to understand. I accept that understanding is impossible in general and try to be receptive to criticism. < 1778265959 423387 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(If you mean, "why don't you care about other people", I already completely destroyed my personality twice. I'm just not interested in the social aspects of life anymore. I'm only spending my time on incorrectness and misconceptions now.) < 1778265961 200342 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :part of the reason the wiki is a mess is that I have been struggling with mental health and trying to come up with a good way to fix it is going to be a lot of effort < 1778265982 40262 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and hardly any of the other admins are around often enough to help < 1778266020 688182 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I acknowledge your health issues. Part of why I recommend deleting large junk pages is to lighten your load so that there's less to be anxious about. < 1778266048 420725 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, I'm trying to keep the wiki as a useful resource – "useful" is a concept that is defined in terms of other people, which means caring about them to at least some extent < 1778266122 351159 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm in a weird space of neuro-atypicality where I do end up sympathising/caring about other people just in general (which some people may see as a character flaw) but am also capable of seeing the point of view of people who don't < 1778266260 591201 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think maybe being able to even formulate an argument like "you shouldn't murder people, because it gives the community an incentive to try to prevent you killing anyone else in case they are next, so they will fund police to put you in prison" is reprehensible/immoral to many people (because it ignores what would to most people be a much better reason to not kill people), but I'm happy to make that sort of argument if it convinces someone and reduces the < 1778266262 229652 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :number of murders – and the same principle applies even in situations with much lower stakes < 1778266293 737729 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Too much was asked of me when I was younger, so I am now tit-for-tat and transactional. I also see many of our graffiti artists as youngsters who need active education in order to be good contributors. < 1778266342 529043 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this means that I'm OK trying to interact with transactional people, as long as I'm not responsible for them in areas beyond the areas I'm supposed to be in control of < 1778266426 196698 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, as a language designer, I think that most pages are vanity pages. That includes pages about my languages, which again I'm happy to see deleted. I don't think vanity is a good usage of a community resource. < 1778266465 10972 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, having a rule that requires deletion of a large number of pages, especially if it's subjective, would create a lot more work for me because I would need to actually do the deletions and it would be hard to find every page (and to find pages near the borderline and make a decision about them) < 1778266523 409057 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, I think this point of view contradicts the entire purpose of the wiki – it was created as a reaction to pages about esolangs on Wikipedia being deleted on the basis of not being notable enough / verifiable enough / of enough interest to other people < 1778266537 243027 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I already made clear that I'd be willing to be deputized for such a task. Now, we both know that you don't trust me with elevated privileges, and again I completely understand, respect, and even endorse that lack of trust. But it seems like there's nobody else around who could be trusted, either? < 1778266561 404821 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So maybe the actual issue isn't about how much time you have, but how little delegation you can perform to offload work. < 1778266566 982519 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if I had to make someone active an admin I would probably choose None1 < 1778266581 187061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, I think before appointing more admins, it is useful to have clear rules < 1778266602 172284 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :back when I was first appointed an admin the rules appeared to be clear and made sense for what was happening at the time, and I just enforced them, everything was great < 1778266612 532749 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but over time, people have found more grey area in the rules than previously appeared to exist < 1778266615 575304 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I'm still not a deletionist. I'm an inclusionist. I also think that including *oneself* is vanity. Ideally we would all work to discuss *each other* without having to ever mention ourselves. < 1778266636 910285 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because otherwise we end up with graffiti walls where the objective is for youths to spray their tag without getting reverted. < 1778266683 571276 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one of my biggest problems is that I am much faster at coming up with ideas than I am at expressing them in a form that can be communicated to others, or recorded durably < 1778266709 554869 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I get so frustrated because people keep offering to help with "why don't you just tell me and I can write it down for you / translate" but that first step is the difficult one < 1778266804 641446 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, here we go, https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/6507 from 2006: "Articles on languages you made yourself are encouraged, unlike for example Wikipedia. However, these may still be mercilessly edited by others. In most cases this is a good thing." < 1778266813 460347 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that rule is still in the policy, even with the same wording I think < 1778266948 840385 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I'm glad that I can just put my own esolangs onto the wiki – some are more interesting than others, and many of them, perhaps nobody else will care about, but I have no way to tell > 1778267227 834482 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:THCA14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181244 5* 03Miui 5* (+74) 10Created page with "~~~~ Extreme of curious how to classify the THCA" > 1778267333 301709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I Ate 562 Metric Tons Of Air And Now I Am Floating Into The Atmosphere's Various Layers At Approximately 0.401 Meters Per Second. If I Had Not Ate That Much Air Then I Would Be Fine Right Now. Now I Have To Exhale All Of This Air. The Lesson Here Is To No14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181245&oldid=181237 5* 03RaiseAfloppaFan3925 5* (+456) 10/* Commands */ hel < 1778267374 467055 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
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> 1778267407 507677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181246&oldid=181230 5* 03Miui 5* (+43) 10 < 1778267411 903281 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not really capable of original ideas, so I can't empathize properly. I get that it's good to have community places to share and build upon each others' work. < 1778267416 600979 :Guest53!~Guest12@2001:4450:494c:3700:6e63:9d98:c9c2:86e8 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest12 < 1778267426 309456 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are a couple of new esolangs I created recently and need to write up > 1778267556 406921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07THCA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181247&oldid=132824 5* 03Miui 5* (+40) 10 > 1778267908 208396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07THCA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181248&oldid=181247 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (-40) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181247|181247]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) > 1778268350 892249 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Miui 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Deadfish.jpg.jpg10]]" > 1778268409 162851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui/deadfish14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181250 5* 03Miui 5* (+109) 10Created page with "[[File:Deadfish.jpg.jpg|thumb|alt=demon frying fish with bsd daemons 3-d glasses compatible.|'''deadfish''']]" > 1778268434 213243 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03AeroPurple 5* 10New user account > 1778268544 77579 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Miui/deadfish14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181251 5* 03Miui 5* (+23) 10Created page with "I love [[THCA]][pstf].." > 1778268847 342425 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quantum Oragami14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181252&oldid=180122 5* 03Miui 5* (+49) 10 < 1778269119 37349 :Guest53!~Guest12@2001:4450:494c:3700:6e63:9d98:c9c2:86e8 QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1778269625 547239 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui/deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181253&oldid=181250 5* 03Miui 5* (+25) 10 > 1778269716 299167 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181254&oldid=181246 5* 03Miui 5* (+135) 10 < 1778270680 124749 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1778271122 266879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish-3314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181255&oldid=181093 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+40) 10 < 1778271235 592567 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1778272104 784891 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :b_jonas < 1778272569 399479 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1778272571 890122 :joast!~joast@2603:90d8:500:31cf:5e0f:3f4b:1cfe:5060 JOIN #esolangs joast :joast > 1778272840 347828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePentuplets4814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181256&oldid=181140 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+17) 10 > 1778273169 480327 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ndirae14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181257&oldid=181146 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+27) 10 < 1778273737 108638 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1778273963 39630 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :If I do a bunch of stuff locally and want to transfer to HackEso, what would... be a good way of doing that. Need a web host I guess, urgh < 1778274005 43862 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :vm.zip looks nice but doesn't seem to have PL/I (F) installed (unless I just don't know where to look) or the batch facility > 1778274066 992842 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Linguistic Category:Math14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181258&oldid=181231 5* 03Miui 5* (+186) 10/* Successor product */ new section < 1778274300 468585 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: so there's the builtin fetch command, which requires at least a temporary web host, such as a pastebin site, and you can use this to download directly into /hackenv/tmp ; and in theory there should be the https://hack.esolangs.org/edit/ interface, but I think that's not working right now < 1778274320 505217 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: is the edit interface known to be broken, or do I just not know how to use it < 1778274349 639566 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the edit interface should let you upload data into a file, but I think it has some form encoding problem so I don't know how, if it all, it mangles non-ascii data < 1778274381 589030 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you can always edit something base64-encoded into /hackenv/tmp and then decode it in a command > 1778274573 224429 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffinit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181259&oldid=180765 5* 03Miui 5* (+207) 10 > 1778274594 507500 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffinit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181260&oldid=181259 5* 03Miui 5* (+1) 10/* "Hello, World!" example */ > 1778274663 340122 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffinit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181261&oldid=181260 5* 03Miui 5* (-3) 10 > 1778274714 757144 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181262&oldid=181254 5* 03Miui 5* (+13) 10 > 1778274820 952782 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Iffinit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181263&oldid=161703 5* 03Miui 5* (+51) 10 > 1778274863 879231 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Iffinit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181264&oldid=181263 5* 03Miui 5* (+23) 10 > 1778274903 374450 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffinit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181265&oldid=181261 5* 03Miui 5* (-1) 10 > 1778275006 14854 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffinit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181266&oldid=181265 5* 03Miui 5* (+18) 10/* "Hello, World!" example */ > 1778275118 633164 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffinit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181267&oldid=181266 5* 03Miui 5* (+33) 10 > 1778275131 47511 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffiniternity14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181268 5* 03Miui 5* (+0) 10Created blank page > 1778275163 270199 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181269&oldid=181262 5* 03Miui 5* (+22) 10/* eternal scope */ > 1778275270 978198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffiniternity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181270&oldid=181268 5* 03Miui 5* (+66) 10 > 1778275323 644290 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Iffiniternity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181271&oldid=181270 5* 03Miui 5* (+35) 10 > 1778275561 412417 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Syssolu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181272&oldid=161462 5* 03Miui 5* (+206) 10 < 1778275648 156035 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, the edit interface is broken, I forget exactly how but I think it was broken by an upgrade. < 1778275668 511867 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though TBH it's not much more integrated with HackEso than any third-party pastebin. < 1778275706 201255 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Other than having that facility of loading an existing file into it for editing. < 1778275861 727534 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess in principle I could also publish the repository on one of the code-hosting sites that have some sort of a pull request process (and then just manually sync it now and then). < 1778275923 538700 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:3c1c:a2d8:b3ec:376e QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1778275951 427885 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been toying with the idea of converting the repo to Git (as a way to avoid the hgweb dependency for exposing it for cloning), but there's so many binaries that rely on `hg` commands that it would break, I probably won't. > 1778276690 424375 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Soundcheck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181273 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+2644) 10Created page with "[[Category:2026]] '''Soundcheck''' is an esolang I did while running on nostalgic silliness and a prayer. Oh, you're asking why? Well, you have not seen Odd Squad, you chump. The commands are mostly all lyrics from the song "Dance Like Nobody's Watching" in > 1778276774 573979 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181274&oldid=181145 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+17) 10/* S */ > 1778276821 743216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePentuplets4814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181275&oldid=181256 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+17) 10 > 1778277617 256229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Usernames14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181276&oldid=180954 5* 03Esolang lover123 5* (+231) 10 > 1778277667 767289 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Moebiusbun 5* 10New user account > 1778278475 296437 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07T U F14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181277 5* 03Esolang lover123 5* (+544) 10Created page with "joke version of [[T F]] and also balanced ternary {| class=wikitable ! name !! what it does !! why |-] | T || is T || constant |- | F || same as T |- | U |- | @ || nor || nand is overated |- | X || halt || wow |- | R:X=Y || if X=Y then repeat the stuff in <> |- | < 1778278545 776348 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel vaguely guilty that I haven't been working on my PDP-1 emulator. I want to get PDP-1 Lisp running on it > 1778278739 643571 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181278&oldid=181118 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+164) 10PDP-1 Lisp < 1778278799 512606 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit > 1778279242 851361 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181279 5* 03Esolang lover123 5* (+503) 10Created page with "{{stub}} computer speak emoji is a ""joke language" created by [[User:Emoji]] (real) ==Syntax/commands/whatever else== is halt. is input number is input ascii "string" outputs string/variable if not in ""s latest input XY pops the top value of the stack. if it > 1778279243 879802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Maple 5* 10New user account > 1778279331 616871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181280&oldid=181274 5* 03Esolang lover123 5* (+22) 10 > 1778279788 866948 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181281&oldid=181055 5* 03Maple 5* (+214) 10Introducing myself (Maple) < 1778281609 126994 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)