> 1778544628 351232 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mental Shakespeare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181858&oldid=181857 5* 03Miui 5* (+40) 10/* Commands */ > 1778544910 362621 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mental Shakespeare14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181859&oldid=181858 5* 03Miui 5* (+235) 10 > 1778544946 348274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mental Shakespeare14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181860&oldid=181859 5* 03Miui 5* (+4) 10/* esolang */ > 1778545094 924451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Syssolu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181861&oldid=181272 5* 03Miui 5* (+161) 10 > 1778545727 353407 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181862&oldid=181843 5* 03Zip 5* (+395) 10/* Category:Joke languages */ > 1778546226 558515 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181863&oldid=181862 5* 03Aadenboy 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03Miui 5* (+0) 10Created blank page > 1778549783 433875 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181868&oldid=181863 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+596) 10suggestion for artlangs > 1778549816 82383 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07=::Lotka+law+for+the+15+most+populated+categories+on+arXiv+(2023-07)=,+replaces+commas+with+better+commas.&title=Special:Search&go=Go14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181869&oldid=181867 5* 03Miui 5* (+41) 10Redirected page to [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] > 1778549850 936563 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181870 5* 03Miui 5* (+5) 10Created page with "{WIP}" > 1778549889 614303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Miui14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181871&oldid=181829 5* 03Miui 5* (+37) 10/* current scope */ > 1778549992 696658 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181872&oldid=181870 5* 03Miui 5* (+250) 10 < 1778551076 483145 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1778551526 281403 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) > 1778551608 842149 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz10]]": appears to be a test page / experiment with wikimarkup formatting rather than a language (and even if it is a language, there's no useful content here) > 1778551611 955793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181873&oldid=174913 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-170) 10Replaced content with "21" > 1778551622 314345 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181874 5* 03Miui 5* (+390) 10/* commands */ > 1778551622 932693 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 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02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181879&oldid=181878 5* 03Miui 5* (+109) 10 > 1778552698 61756 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181880&oldid=181879 5* 03Miui 5* (+83) 10 > 1778552947 487452 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181881&oldid=181880 5* 03Miui 5* (+57) 10 < 1778552997 872524 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 JOIN #esolangs * :realname > 1778553077 708755 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181882&oldid=181881 5* 03Miui 5* (-17) 10/* examples */ > 1778553325 518817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181883&oldid=181882 5* 03Miui 5* (-32) 10/* examples */ > 1778553379 774934 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181884&oldid=181883 5* 03Miui 5* (+27) 10 > 1778553469 991281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181885&oldid=181884 5* 03Miui 5* (+29) 10xinogenic > 1778553643 780721 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181886&oldid=181885 5* 03Miui 5* (+163) 10/* examples */ > 1778553663 889938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181887&oldid=181886 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778553857 593049 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181888&oldid=181887 5* 03Miui 5* (+160) 10/* examples */ > 1778553877 236080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181889&oldid=181888 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778553937 873975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 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02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181901&oldid=181900 5* 03Miui 5* (+214) 10/* examples */ > 1778555512 664695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181902&oldid=181901 5* 03Miui 5* (+192) 10/* examples */ > 1778555594 615766 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181903&oldid=181902 5* 03Miui 5* (+198) 10/* examples */ > 1778555680 331310 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181904&oldid=181903 5* 03Miui 5* (+193) 10/* examples */ > 1778555708 816756 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181905&oldid=181904 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778555730 140506 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181906&oldid=181905 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778555745 436972 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181907&oldid=181906 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778555776 152728 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181908&oldid=181907 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778555822 389893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181909&oldid=181908 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778556145 338830 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A boson cannon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181910 5* 03Miui 5* (+55) 10Created page with "I a! creating a fucking boson cannon right now fuck you" > 1778556418 127793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A boson cannon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181911&oldid=181910 5* 03Miui 5* (+46) 10 > 1778556449 93251 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A boson cannon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181912&oldid=181911 5* 03Miui 5* (+1) 10 > 1778557562 574687 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181913&oldid=181909 5* 03Miui 5* (+206) 10/* examples */ > 1778557719 650324 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181914&oldid=181913 5* 03Miui 5* (+212) 10/* examples */ > 1778557760 91475 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181915&oldid=181914 5* 03Miui 5* (+2) 10/* examples */ > 1778557882 51031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181916&oldid=181915 5* 03Miui 5* (+228) 10/* examples */ > 1778557961 885231 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181917&oldid=181916 5* 03Miui 5* (+193) 10/* examples */ > 1778557990 671266 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181918&oldid=181917 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778558019 13293 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181919&oldid=181918 5* 03Miui 5* (-10) 10/* examples */ > 1778558139 347156 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181920&oldid=181919 5* 03Miui 5* (+201) 10/* examples */ > 1778558218 96009 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181921&oldid=181920 5* 03Miui 5* (+191) 10/* examples */ > 1778558348 145644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181922&oldid=181921 5* 03Miui 5* (+195) 10/* examples */ > 1778558465 701289 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181923&oldid=181922 5* 03Miui 5* (+213) 10/* examples */ > 1778558552 429319 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181924&oldid=181923 5* 03Miui 5* (+185) 10/* examples */ > 1778558554 705062 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02A boson cannon10]]": offtopic; content was: "'''A boson cannon''' is a densely unimplemented weapon. [[Category:Weapons]][[Category:Unimplemented]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) > 1778558646 16244 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10blocked [[02User:Miui10]] with an expiration time of 1 day and 7 hours (account creation disabled): does not appear to be here to improve the wiki; has made repeated offtopic edits and has ignored warnings > 1778558697 717817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz10]]": offtopic > 1778558709 697215 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz10]]": offtopic > 1778558746 747161 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181925&oldid=181721 5* 03Ais523 5* (-101) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:PrySigneToFry|PrySigneToFry]] > 1778558832 234376 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Syssolu14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181926&oldid=181290 5* 03Ais523 5* (+155) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Yayimhere2(school)|Yayimhere2(school)]] > 1778558872 862497 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Syssolu10]]": no useful content stating the existence of something without giving details is not useful, and the rest of the page is offtopic > 1778558975 75682 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02'S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.10]]": no useful content (states that an esolang exists, but just contains rambling and irrelevant links rather than a specification, with the only comprehensible detail being that it's queue-based) > 1778559131 642214 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Linguistic Category:Math10]]": does not appear to be actual language documentation the stated details belong to a range of different contexts and the page doesn't seem to be about anything in particular (and the stated "both an esolang and a category proposal" nature of it is never explained) > 1778559131 658859 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Linguistic Category:Math10]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: does not appear to be actual language documentation the stated details belong to a range of different contexts and the page doesn't seem to be about anything in particular (and the stated "both an esolang and a category > 1778559146 517413 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[0210]]": content was: "Floor Function of dead fish. [[Category:stubs]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) > 1778559259 854886 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Memristor10]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language > 1778559259 871924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Memristor10]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language > 1778559291 69473 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:W-images-8-8a-mshakes.Hamlet.png10]]": zero-pixel image > 1778559305 589879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:Mental-shakespeare.png10]]": zero-pixel image > 1778559470 894657 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png-freeBSD.png10]]": we don't need two copies of this image (in fact, I'm not sure we even need one copy of this image the other is [[https://esolangs.org/wiki/File:$$Aleph_0x1111111100000001.png]], this is just that in inverse video) > 1778559514 55892 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02U Down ?10]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language > 1778559649 973572 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Old Joe's Milkshake10]]": page is not useful for understanding the esolang it claims to document (if it even exists), what content is present is rambling and self-contradictory > 1778559649 998539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Old Joe's Milkshake10]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: page is not useful for understanding the esolang it claims to document (if it even exists), what content is present is rambling and self-contradictory > 1778559671 399750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02U Down ?/presetMv golf10]]": content was: "('''()''()''''')", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) > 1778559678 768295 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02U Down ?///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////10]]": content was: "
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", and the only con > 1778559742 152015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:Mshakes.Hamlet.png10]]": zero-pixel image > 1778559912 129006 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hyperspace (Archived)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181927&oldid=181452 5* 03Ais523 5* (-66) 10remove irrelevant categories and add a relevant one > 1778559947 976618 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hyperspace (Archived)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181928&oldid=181927 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10misread this page's history, fixing my previous edit > 1778560037 320455 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181929&oldid=181574 5* 03Ais523 5* (-231) 10/* successor proposals */ remove category proposals that contain no information on why we'd want these categories, and no information but the names (which aren't very useful) on what they'd be for > 1778560104 490245 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181930&oldid=181929 5* 03Ais523 5* (-4316) 10/* re:"Metacategorization"#Consolidation proposal: new Category:Miraculous */ incomprehensible category proposal, with the supporting arguments being a list of unrelated mathematical results it is probably best to remove this sort of thing from the page beca > 1778560198 472320 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:The Globe.png.png10]]": offtopic (was only being used to decorate an article without being directly relevant to it, and is not related to esolangs) > 1778560249 995431 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated /PSTF Again414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181931&oldid=181181 5* 03Ais523 5* (-38) 10Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:MihaiEso|MihaiEso]] > 1778560758 74828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Data and the Nymphir10]]": the page does not appear to describe an esolang it's more like a sequence of fragments that might plausibly be part of an esolang spec, but they aren't related to each other except in terms of which words are used) > 1778560818 36866 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02ReversibleFerrariMSB10]]": copyright infringement (in addition to numerous other problems, but this is the easiest one to explain) > 1778560888 308716 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Cain and Abel10]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language < 1778560961 12206 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:2053:7e42:4ce2:128b QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1778561014 681028 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Abysys10]]": defined as a derivative of [[Cain and Abel]], but in a way that's inconsistent with the definition on that page (which was in turn inconsistent with itself), meaning that the entire page content is unusable > 1778561014 701928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Abysys10]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: defined as a derivative of [[Cain and Abel]], but in a way that's inconsistent with the definition on that page (which was in turn inconsistent with itself), meaning that the entire page content is unusable > 1778561033 934408 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Matrioshka language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181932&oldid=181198 5* 03Ais523 5* (-21) 10Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow|PythonshellDebugwindow]] > 1778561040 392578 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Matrioshka language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181933&oldid=181199 5* 03Ais523 5* (-49) 10Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Ractangle|Ractangle]] > 1778561118 384354 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:PSTF10]]": vandalism > 1778561148 647221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:ndirae10]]": contained only an offtopic (and mostly incomprehensible) comment > 1778561187 545734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Oragami10]]": offtopic (consisting of random sentences mostly taken from other pages, rather than being discussion on the article [[Oragami]]) > 1778561302 167491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:ProjectEuler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181934&oldid=181129 5* 03Ais523 5* (-224) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181129|181129]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) category proposals should be left to [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] rather than placed on every page you think might belong in the category > 1778561413 452612 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Iffiniternity10]]": contains zero information about the language (other than specifying that the creator is [[User:Miui]], who didn't specify anything about the language) an article with no information is not useful to readers > 1778561466 993404 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02W-images-8-8a-mshakes.Hamlet.png10]]": offtopic or test page (article created only to embed a single image, but articles should be used for esolangs images already have a description page) > 1778561477 389332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02User:Miui/N10]]": redirect to deleted page > 1778561600 659051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:User talk-Miui-$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png10]]": duplicate image (of [[File:$$Aleph_0x1111111100000001.png]] which may itself be offtopic) > 1778561650 159288 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02User talk:Miui/$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png10]]": page used to embed duplicate copies of an image (pages created purely to embed images aren't useful, nor are duplicate images) > 1778561675 531739 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02User:Miui/$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png10]]": page created purely to embed one image; content was: "[[File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png|left|R interperter for when ur down.]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) > 1778561714 750766 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Deadfloor10]]": redirect to deleted page > 1778561822 299785 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Quantum Gravity10]]": talk page of deleted page, no useful content > 1778562099 757960 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:Cake Knife.png10]]": offtopic > 1778562329 309328 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181935&oldid=180108 5* 03Ais523 5* (-223) 10undo two edits by [[User:Miui]] this program doesn't appear to be consistent with the specification of the language it claims to have been written in and thus is not a good example > 1778562423 836576 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181936&oldid=180598 5* 03Ais523 5* (-493) 10remove [[Oragami]] example as it doesn't appear to comply with the specification of the language it claims to have been written in > 1778563266 735731 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181937&oldid=181868 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1786) 10/* Pages that are themselves art */ this is a difficult problem; explain the contradictory constraints > 1778570715 781918 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181938&oldid=181937 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+4865) 10going a bit beyond topicality to maybe more fundamental problems that likely prompted this, but trying to be constructive < 1778570941 916464 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1778571115 444201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181939&oldid=181938 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+2) 10/* Behaviour vs. Content */ sry, fixing my messed up category link > 1778571179 453936 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181940&oldid=181767 5* 03AeroPurple 5* (+241) 10 > 1778571289 397217 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Stuley14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181941&oldid=177228 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+3) 10 > 1778571305 537015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02Stuley10]] to [[Makeup]]: Renamed > 1778571323 723276 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Sandbox/Timeline 183214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181944&oldid=169025 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-974) 10 > 1778571953 816259 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181945&oldid=181939 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+274) 10/* Behaviour vs. Content */ sub-page creation guidelines? < 1778573022 109003 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit > 1778575120 737425 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181946&oldid=181945 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+274) 10badly translated < 1778578090 957002 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi < 1778582530 779102 :user24!~user24___@2a02:810a:1403:4900:95c9:b410:2bb8:d74d JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1778582648 481569 :user24!~user24___@2a02:810a:1403:4900:95c9:b410:2bb8:d74d QUIT :Client Quit > 1778585962 558934 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Usernames14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181947&oldid=181792 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+584) 10 > 1778588939 842917 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181948&oldid=181946 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+607) 10friction perchance? > 1778589665 854520 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Important lesbian virtual machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181949&oldid=180633 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+112) 10/* import as from lang */ < 1778591271 57423 :amby!~ambylastn@79-77-115-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN #esolangs * :realname > 1778591411 670390 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Grill Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181950&oldid=181836 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+177) 10/* External resources */ Python experiment in representing the data appendants as RLE 'grills' too > 1778593057 444269 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07POY (2026)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181951 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+6943) 10POY > 1778593102 463790 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RocketRace14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181952&oldid=166216 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+122) 10poy > 1778593116 630760 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RocketRace14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181953&oldid=181952 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+2) 10typo > 1778593135 237491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RocketRace14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181954&oldid=181953 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+15) 10proud > 1778593196 686439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07POY (2026)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181955&oldid=181951 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+1258) 10Start with an example > 1778593392 105080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07POY (2026)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181956&oldid=181955 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+0) 10The url has changed as I was creating this page < 1778594576 685381 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1778595002 53496 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :b_jonas > 1778596434 760984 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Rococo 5* 10New user account > 1778597000 391603 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181957&oldid=181940 5* 03Rococo 5* (+180) 10/* Introductions */ > 1778600977 185010 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[074-list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181958&oldid=161544 5* 0347 5* (-2) 10 > 1778601191 580938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:=?14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181959 5* 0347 5* (+71) 10Created page with "big insparation for the [[4KOWO-like esolang]] btw~~~" > 1778601268 459491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:4714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181960&oldid=173596 5* 0347 5* (+8) 10Changed redirect target from [[User talk:Ractangle]] to [[User talk:Ractangle/Sandbox]] > 1778601415 472301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181961&oldid=180906 5* 0347 5* (+90) 10 > 1778601828 465854 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:4714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181962&oldid=181960 5* 0347 5* (-8) 10ok maybe not < 1778603128 751483 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Today's fun awk bug: '[:…]' doesn't necessarily match-and-capture the entire ellipsis '…' so instead I have to use '(:|…)' > 1778603398 155608 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:4714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181963&oldid=180996 5* 0347 5* (+382) 10 < 1778604200 621582 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1778604260 615011 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1778604375 294026 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1778604617 608694 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic > 1778605072 706710 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181964&oldid=181948 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+1156) 10 > 1778605469 403737 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181965&oldid=181964 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+320) 10small comment > 1778605576 207592 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181966&oldid=181820 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+351) 10 > 1778605745 655643 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181967&oldid=181966 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+263) 10More on mass deletions > 1778605927 559280 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181968&oldid=181965 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+299) 10 > 1778606734 872905 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dodecahedron14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181969 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+1816) 10Created page with "'''Dodecahedron''' is an esolang I created which centers on 12 dodecahedrons nested inside one another at different z-levels, 0 to 11. This is the memory. The instruction space is itself a square grid where you can place instructions. The instructions have > 1778606749 553014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dodecahedron14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181970&oldid=181969 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+18) 10 > 1778606763 641191 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181971&oldid=181968 5* 03Corbin 5* (+172) 10/* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ > 1778606864 72416 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181972&oldid=181971 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+414) 10 > 1778607537 627090 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181973&oldid=181972 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+787) 10 > 1778608257 328182 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePentuplets4814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181974&oldid=181628 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+4) 10 > 1778608326 407224 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePentuplets4814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181975&oldid=181974 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+83) 10 > 1778609428 502942 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheUselessestGuy 5* 10New user account > 1778609962 594356 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:4714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181976&oldid=181963 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-382) 10ignore that pls > 1778610268 793402 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181977&oldid=181973 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+441) 10/* Behaviour vs. Content */ on splitting the wiki in half < 1778610574 426513 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) > 1778611332 301397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181978 5* 03Ais523 5* (+570) 10warning used when a non-admin tries to create a category > 1778611369 410604 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10moved [[02MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed10]] to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-categorycreate]]: page created at the wrong title > 1778611389 923735 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Hammy/Box full of sand14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181980&oldid=181778 5* 03Hammy 5* (+124) 10/* sizes of pages */ > 1778611602 859386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ais523 non-admin/Sandbox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181981 5* 03Ais523 non-admin 5* (+4) 10testing the new edit filter by verifying that non-admins can still create pages that aren't categories < 1778611725 293650 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello! > 1778611751 639758 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Category:Goto10]]": there isn't consensus to create this category yet (see [[Esolang talk:Categorization#Category:goto based]]), and if it were created it would't be at this name > 1778611829 468684 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Category:Pages with ignored display titles10]]": blank category description page (and it can make sense for MediaWiki's auto-categories to not have a description page in order to more easily serve as an alert that something is wrong) > 1778611911 553150 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181982&oldid=181977 5* 03Ais523 5* (+420) 10/* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ maybe we could have a template for this > 1778612035 741336 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181983&oldid=181982 5* 03Ais523 5* (+624) 10/* Merging pages */ agreed > 1778612127 989228 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181984&oldid=181983 5* 03Ais523 5* (+408) 10/* Pages that are themselves art */ r to RocketRace; this is an interesting idea but we would need to find details that work < 1778613017 635801 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi somefan > 1778613274 799720 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181985&oldid=181984 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+424) 10 > 1778613455 861533 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181986&oldid=181985 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+465) 10/* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ > 1778613785 535465 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181987&oldid=181986 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+1059) 10/* Collaborative languages */ new section > 1778613850 646556 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181988&oldid=181634 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+387) 10/* About the policy proposals */ new section > 1778613966 607826 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:CAPI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181989&oldid=158388 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (-23) 10stuff > 1778613971 508521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181990&oldid=181987 5* 03Somefan 5* (+232) 10wiki dumps? > 1778614108 644301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181991&oldid=181988 5* 03Ais523 5* (+386) 10/* About the policy proposals */ reply > 1778614278 641947 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181992&oldid=181991 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+282) 10typo on filter < 1778614560 216358 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`olist 1343 < 1778614566 724952 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :olist : shachaf oerjan Sgeo boily nortti b_jonas Noisytoot > 1778614647 768949 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181993&oldid=181992 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+907) 10/* About the policy proposals */ adding my thoughts > 1778614789 266689 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MediaWiki talk:Abusefilter-categorycreate14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181994 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+364) 10Created page with "bit of a nitpick, but I think the red is too harsh here and it's a bit hard to read the text ~~~~" > 1778615557 260398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MediaWiki talk:Abusefilter-categorycreate14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181995&oldid=181994 5* 03Ais523 5* (+401) 10it's so that people don't miss the fact that the edit wasn't saved < 1778617137 475672 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`help < 1778617137 973895 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch [] " downloads files. Files saved to $HACKENV are persistent, and $HACKENV/bin is in $PATH. $HACKENV is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ to browse. $PWD ($HACKENV/tmp) is persistent but unversioned, /tmp is ephemeral. < 1778617567 360731 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1778617998 630151 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Aadenboy/Live stats14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181996&oldid=181061 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (-661) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181061|181061]] by [[Special:Contributions/Aadenboy|Aadenboy]] ([[User talk:Aadenboy|talk]]) < 1778618622 211954 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1778618817 441540 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 JOIN #esolangs * :realname > 1778619106 454134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181997&oldid=181993 5* 03CodePentuplets48 5* (+180) 10 < 1778619456 793709 :somefan!~somefan@96.241.14.210 CHGHOST ~somefan :user/somefan > 1778619822 125961 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DODO14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181998&oldid=181781 5* 03QuantumV 5* (+115) 10add get > 1778619929 725118 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DODO14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181999&oldid=181998 5* 03QuantumV 5* (+0) 10/* Var Ops */ > 1778619940 193693 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182000&oldid=181990 5* 03Corbin 5* (+217) 10/* Collaborative languages */ > 1778619942 854539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DODO14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182001&oldid=181999 5* 03QuantumV 5* (+1) 10/* I/O Ops */ < 1778619985 328044 :amby!~ambylastn@79-77-115-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1778620466 716754 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, is it good to get a core dump from /usr/lib/firefox/crashreporter ? < 1778620582 23347 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I deleted it, but maybe I should look more closely.) > 1778621516 122741 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182002&oldid=182000 5* 03Blashyrkh 5* (+255) 10/* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ < 1778621562 819209 :svm!~msv@user/msv JOIN #esolangs msv :msv < 1778621694 145333 :msv!~msv@user/msv QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1778621952 333791 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182003&oldid=182002 5* 03Ais523 5* (+203) 10/* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ deleted pages are backed up < 1778622057 234424 :amby!~ambylastn@79-77-115-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN #esolangs amby :realname > 1778622845 481098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182004&oldid=182003 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+1351) 10/* Collaborative languages */ ...like a video of your friends playing a single game of football last thursday placed at the same level as an article about football < 1778623529 318217 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1778623673 538047 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi, thought I'd loiter here a bit given all the recent admin topicality discussion. IRC might be more efficient < 1778623751 869087 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I appreciate the admin effort, thanks for implementing the Category warning so quickly! Wasn't expecting that to go in immediately < 1778624482 885373 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd been thinking about it for a while, thanks for spurring me to actually do it < 1778624562 855890 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been procrastinating on starting a proper topicality discussion for months or possibly years (although it was more a case of not having enough mental energy) < 1778624589 782202 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I should also thank the people finding new and creative things that need rules against them, in order to inform the decisions about where the lines should be < 1778624859 784826 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, it's not just a warning, it actually prevents the page being created < 1778625445 474793 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's what basically what I was suggesting. It happens so rarely I don't think it's a problem to be admin only < 1778626227 36408 :pool!~nathan@user/PoolloverNathan QUIT :Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat < 1778626336 454286 :pool!~nathan@user/PoolloverNathan JOIN #esolangs PoolloverNathan :nathan < 1778626353 230140 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: Thanks for weighing in. I appreciate that moderate folks are adding moderate opinions; it makes me look like a git, but that's fine. < 1778627128 490057 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just feel like there's so many pages where I'd find it hard to judge if they're on topic. I hope it'll be easier for you, or whatever other people you rope in as wiki admins. < 1778627188 676201 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :part of the problem is that I'm also one of the people who just has an esolang idea and then posts it that day, without an interpreter or much analysis (beyond, sometimes, a computational class proof) < 1778627225 925022 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think my esolangs posted like that are better than the average other person's esolangs posted like that – but I also see my activity as beneficial and find it hard to characterise how others' is different < 1778627427 585620 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1778627438 673291 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh, np @korvo! I think we agree on being harsh against user created concept categories, and joke proofs etc., I'm quite liberal on what I'd accept for language pages (high tolerance for absurd art), but in most cases I find myself agreeing with your handling of other users via talkpages < 1778627489 663115 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw I see both korvo and salpynx as being on the more exclusionary side of the conversation (but that's partly because I expect a nontrivial number of people to believe that the wiki should accept absolutely anything) < 1778627788 852045 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mostly want consistency in how rules are enforced. I was raised by lawyers, which is like being raised by wolves except that I use too many words instead of too few. < 1778627833 22396 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I want to see extra sandboxes and user-editable pages removed in order to stay consistent with the single-sandbox and no-social-media rules, for example. I don't mind that people have personal stuff on user pages per se. < 1778627862 101952 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: Thanks. FWIW I wish that I were able to be more polite and understanding with the younger contributors; I know that I'm getting old and out-of-touch. < 1778627885 758511 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I find the not fully fleshed out ideas are totally fine, but its something about quantity of similar edits shifts it into a meta wiki editing activity for its own sake, and diminishes the information content of whatever was posted. I'm struggling to define it too < 1778627979 461219 :somefan!~somefan@user/somefan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1778628285 883810 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd defend almost any one of that recent user that was blocked's language pages individually, even though I can't quite figure out what was going on with most many seemed like the had a kernel of an idea, but the ignored warnings about using preview, vandalism and unhelpful edits to existing pages shifted it into a pattern of disruptive behaviour < 1778628312 772515 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the warnings and temp block seemed appropriate < 1778628353 280515 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think they were undesirable for a similar reason as LLM-generated pages are, as in they appeared to be saying something but actually weren't < 1778628359 110460 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I don't think they were LLM-produced < 1778628372 473648 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel a little bad I may have encouraged them by interacting, but I was trying to be welcoming and demonstrate wiki norms or something. I've kinda fallen into this trap before < 1778628411 964682 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would have been lighter on them if they weren't making my job almost impossible < 1778628439 205150 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :many of the pages there should have been deleted earlier (e.g. the zero-sized images) but I just couldn't keep track of them because edits were being spammed in such quantity < 1778628776 717521 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does mediawiki have a built-in mechanism to force new users go through a draft review process for their first edit? I wouldn't want that to add admin overhead, but it seems that some users are collecting mediwiki accounts to 'play-mediawiki' games. esolangs seems very permissive and a target < 1778628839 793650 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I recall some userpages listing other mediawikis users were banned from as a kind of social-media badge, which is equally funny, and worrying < 1778628851 352803 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: not built in < 1778628862 406781 :svm!~msv@user/msv NICK :msv < 1778628872 33697 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the edit filter extension is programmable enough to come up with things like the Introduce yourself page < 1778628922 592887 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(which is designed to be difficult for spambot frameworks to navigate, I'm not sure a single spambot has managed to get through it yet, the occasional human looking to spam has though) < 1778628945 786954 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some kind of initial speed bump to halt the new sign-ups creating multiple pages a day. That's a pattern that seems to repeat, then they settle down to more constructive edits, or move on < 1778629058 361928 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I forgot about the intial captcha coding challenge, that is clever and seems successful. It ensures we only get human spammers with a certain level of obsessiveness :D < 1778629094 405823 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the spambots were actually able to get through the Befunge captcha, which is kind-of amazing < 1778629106 555797 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why we needed the Introduce yourself on top of that < 1778629121 783157 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure whether someone taught the spambots Befunge or whether they delegated to human CAPTCHA-solvers < 1778629265 603103 :Guest12!~Guest12@2001:4450:494c:3700:a562:6cff:27e1:748d JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest12 < 1778629370 275243 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or if someone thought the spambots just this one specific type of befunge program, the radix 9 decode < 1778629417 890310 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: The sad fact is that we already have a fantastic spam filter. The analogy I usually use in IRC is the question of city managers when faced with a wave of graffiti: how to gently discourage vandalism while permitting artists to florish? < 1778629449 733249 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I've often wondered what would have happened if we changed the captcha to include some OS commands that gathered system information, in the hope of tricking the spambots into revealing information about themselves < 1778629463 372461 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but there are numerous reasons why that would have been a bad idea, and it's too late to try now < 1778629466 536497 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...Well, okay, it's not sad that we have a filter. It's sad that the filter has limited effect. < 1778629499 861214 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yeah, hope they're running without adequate sandboxing, send them a full reverse shell, and steal all of their botnet. < 1778629508 256908 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :easy to apply Templates that point to relevant constructive guidelines seems like a good way for non admins to flag high speed edits would enable better community policing. From fighting spam elsewhere I know it's a battle of resources, you lose if you have to construct a polite custom msg each time, in case it's not a bot < 1778629531 418609 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: BTW another proposition I've had, only slightly deletionist, is to delete [[language list]]. I think that many of our youngsters get some sort of yomi or aura from tagging the wall, so to speak, and [[language list]] is one of several tagging spots. < 1778629580 89878 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I have been planning to replace that for a while, but the semi-serious language list isn't quite in the right space to replace it yet < 1778629629 812024 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't like the semi-serious language list < 1778629634 396834 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: From our last conversation, I recall that the main issue was that we have lots of incoming bluelinks to it, including from templates and MW includes, which would need to be fixed up to either point to [[:category:languages]] or be completely reworded. < 1778629657 600266 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :could we delete the joke language list and the semi-serious language list but keep the language list? < 1778629661 257694 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(As always, if you need some mass editing done and you're just not feeling like doing it, but you can specify it, just ask me to do it.) < 1778629686 3270 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tended to avoid adding my own things to [[langauge list]] because I didn't quite see the point of it over Category:Languages, they are both unwieldy. I feel even stronger against the 'semi-serious language list' though, it's a watered down 2.0 that will likely suffer from the same fundamental problem < 1778629688 186383 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think the SSLL is better than the current language list (which is mostly just redundant to the category) < 1778629689 326986 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it won't help too much, but I feel like a joke language list just encourages a few people to write joke languages and doesn't really have positive effects < 1778629712 149639 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Gonna leave in a few for the bar. Either running Super Metroid or Link to the Past, bartender's choice. < 1778629717 39263 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol, multpile haters of the 'semi-serious' list! < 1778629725 509518 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw, with these topicality proposals, Category:Languages may turn into something more like the current SSLL due to merging languages that are too similar onto single pages < 1778629826 606217 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but my ideal is that you can pick a random page and find something interesting < 1778629835 696219 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a page listing all the BF equivalents is a lot more interesting than a page listing a single one would be < 1778629844 263937 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: I think that the problem with "semi-serious" is that it's polysemous. For me, it might be something that I'm not sure is a real language, I guess? I don't use the category at all. But for some regular contributors it's a "lol xd random" sort of category, while for others it's a "I have not proven this to have coherent reduction" sorts of silliness. < 1778629862 730307 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the page is clearly misnamed < 1778629870 185286 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Yes! Make Special:Random interesting again! < 1778629885 343016 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the goal is to exclude useless/uninteresting/redundant languages while not excluding esolangs just due to being esoteric < 1778629993 866317 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw I strongly oppose merging historically separate pages like Lenguage and Unary, but for pretty specific reasons. They have a history, and I created an almost similar lang with slightly different features because the subtle differences once seemed very important to me. At some point it gets arguable, do we merge pages about all sub-species of cats (animal) into one article or not? I also don't think it's the most important argument to have :) < 1778630012 977480 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe the original idea for a name was "serious language list" and then it was rejected because esolangs aren't considered serious by most people < 1778630034 964187 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: I think merging pages with subtle differences is actually a good thing, as it helps you focus on the differences < 1778630061 716851 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, you can write once about the concept of using length as source code (including things like EOF sort-of being like a symbol), and then talk about the languages based on it and what the precise differences are < 1778630077 96375 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: Hey, if it was good enough for Aristoteles to talk about~ Categorization is certainly hard. I think that, at least from what I recall at the time, ais523 is talking about concepts like [[constant language]], where we hashed out a unifying framework as infrastructure for an eventual removal of all (most?) of the constant-language pages. < 1778630119 129989 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"length as source code" becomes super-interesting when you start thinking about non-integer lengths < 1778630198 337770 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.98.104.53 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd worry that if an existing language page contained a lot of information in context, merging could destroy that information, especially if performed by someone who wasn't familiar with the subtleties. Many esolangs have hidden peculiarities not immediately obvious. I'd worry assuming "sameness" could lose info _for pre-existing dense article_ < 1778630216 432163 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yes, it would have to be done carefully < 1778630225 893542 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OTOH, that information is mostly not present even in the current pages < 1778630235 706429 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, also, consider that we have other ways of making bluelinks branch out. For example, check out the "main article" pattern I used on [[computable]], [[self-reproducing object]], or [[Turing tarpit]]. We *can* have fairly clean trees of articles with central hubs without listicles. < 1778630275 497068 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Lenguage is very unclear on the fact that the I/O is totally different from most BF derivatives (the only thing indicating it's different is the reference interpreter) < 1778630296 127200 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: Yes, another good point. [[Lesser known programming languages]] is a recent one, or [[prehistory of esoteric programming languages]] is a personal favorite. Sometimes we gotta do research. < 1778630331 569709 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw, I think listicles, perhaps accompanied by a separate article about the concept, are actually a good format for conveying esolang knowledge