00:10:28 [[Mental Shakespeare]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181858&oldid=181857 * Miui * (+40) /* Commands */ 00:15:10 [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181859&oldid=181858 * Miui * (+235) 00:15:46 [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181860&oldid=181859 * Miui * (+4) /* esolang */ 00:18:14 [[Syssolu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181861&oldid=181272 * Miui * (+161) 00:28:47 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181862&oldid=181843 * Zip * (+395) /* Category:Joke languages */ 00:37:06 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181863&oldid=181862 * Aadenboy * (+400) 00:37:14 [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181864&oldid=181860 * Miui * (+28) 00:40:53 [[Mental Shakespeare]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181865&oldid=181864 * Miui * (+34) /* spec */ 00:53:48 [[Leetlang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181866&oldid=181786 * Squidmanescape * (+252) 01:12:24 -!- somefan has joined. 01:25:10 -!- somefan has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:34:33 -!- amby has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:36:07 [[=::Lotka+law+for+the+15+most+populated+categories+on+arXiv+(2023-07)=,+replaces+commas+with+better+commas.&title=Special:Search&go=Go]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181867 * Miui * (+0) Created blank page 01:36:23 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181868&oldid=181863 * RocketRace * (+596) suggestion for artlangs 01:36:56 [[=::Lotka+law+for+the+15+most+populated+categories+on+arXiv+(2023-07)=,+replaces+commas+with+better+commas.&title=Special:Search&go=Go]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181869&oldid=181867 * Miui * (+41) Redirected page to [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] 01:37:30 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181870 * Miui * (+5) Created page with "{WIP}" 01:38:09 [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181871&oldid=181829 * Miui * (+37) /* current scope */ 01:39:52 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181872&oldid=181870 * Miui * (+250) 01:57:56 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 02:05:26 -!- ais523 has joined. 02:06:48 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]]": appears to be a test page / experiment with wikimarkup formatting rather than a language (and even if it is a language, there's no useful content here) 02:06:51 [[User:Tommyaweosme]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181873&oldid=174913 * Tommyaweosme * (-170) Replaced content with "21" 02:07:02 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181874 * Miui * (+390) /* commands */ 02:07:02 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[=::Lotka+law+for+the+15+most+populated+categories+on+arXiv+(2023-07)=,+replaces+commas+with+better+commas.&title=Special:Search&go=Go]]": redirect to deleted page 02:07:21 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181875&oldid=181874 * Miui * (+22) 02:09:00 [[Talk:Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181876 * Miui * (+28) Created page with "not4smolIQ (ideal quotients)" 02:10:06 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181877&oldid=181875 * Miui * (+82) 02:19:21 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181878&oldid=181877 * Miui * (+42) 02:22:09 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181879&oldid=181878 * Miui * (+109) 02:24:58 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181880&oldid=181879 * Miui * (+83) 02:29:07 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181881&oldid=181880 * Miui * (+57) 02:29:57 -!- somefan has joined. 02:31:17 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181882&oldid=181881 * Miui * (-17) /* examples */ 02:35:25 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181883&oldid=181882 * Miui * (-32) /* examples */ 02:36:19 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181884&oldid=181883 * Miui * (+27) 02:37:49 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181885&oldid=181884 * Miui * (+29) xinogenic 02:40:43 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181886&oldid=181885 * Miui * (+163) /* examples */ 02:41:03 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181887&oldid=181886 * Miui * (-10) /* examples */ 02:44:17 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181888&oldid=181887 * Miui * (+160) /* examples */ 02:44:37 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181889&oldid=181888 * Miui * (-10) /* examples */ 02:45:37 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181890&oldid=181889 * Miui * (+139) /* examples */ 02:49:06 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181891&oldid=181890 * Miui * (+121) /* examples */ 02:51:21 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181892&oldid=181891 * Miui * (+193) /* examples */ 02:53:06 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181893&oldid=181892 * Miui * (+197) /* examples */ 02:55:01 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181894&oldid=181893 * Miui * (+202) /* examples */ 02:57:22 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181895&oldid=181894 * Miui * (+201) /* examples */ 03:00:03 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181896&oldid=181895 * Miui * (+211) /* examples */ 03:02:34 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181897&oldid=181896 * Miui * (-18) /* examples */ 03:04:38 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181898&oldid=181897 * Miui * (+159) /* examples */ 03:05:37 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181899&oldid=181898 * Miui * (-10) /* examples */ 03:07:42 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181900&oldid=181899 * Miui * (+196) /* examples */ 03:09:38 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181901&oldid=181900 * Miui * (+214) /* examples */ 03:11:52 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181902&oldid=181901 * Miui * (+192) /* examples */ 03:13:14 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181903&oldid=181902 * Miui * (+198) /* examples */ 03:14:40 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] 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(+46) 03:27:29 [[A boson cannon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181912&oldid=181911 * Miui * (+1) 03:46:02 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181913&oldid=181909 * Miui * (+206) /* examples */ 03:48:39 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181914&oldid=181913 * Miui * (+212) /* examples */ 03:49:20 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181915&oldid=181914 * Miui * (+2) /* examples */ 03:51:22 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181916&oldid=181915 * Miui * (+228) /* examples */ 03:52:41 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181917&oldid=181916 * Miui * (+193) /* examples */ 03:53:10 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181918&oldid=181917 * Miui * (-10) /* examples */ 03:53:39 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181919&oldid=181918 * Miui * (-10) /* examples */ 03:55:39 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181920&oldid=181919 * Miui * (+201) /* examples */ 03:56:58 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181921&oldid=181920 * Miui * (+191) /* examples */ 03:59:08 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181922&oldid=181921 * Miui * (+195) /* examples */ 04:01:05 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181923&oldid=181922 * Miui * (+213) /* examples */ 04:02:32 [[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181924&oldid=181923 * Miui * (+185) /* examples */ 04:02:34 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[A boson cannon]]": offtopic; content was: "'''A boson cannon''' is a densely unimplemented weapon. [[Category:Weapons]][[Category:Unimplemented]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) 04:04:06 [[Special:Log/block]] block * Ais523 * blocked [[User:Miui]] with an expiration time of 1 day and 7 hours (account creation disabled): does not appear to be here to improve the wiki; has made repeated offtopic edits and has ignored warnings 04:04:57 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]]": offtopic 04:05:09 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Lotte's of werth sorrrowlnz]]": offtopic 04:05:46 [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181925&oldid=181721 * Ais523 * (-101) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:PrySigneToFry|PrySigneToFry]] 04:07:12 [[Talk:Syssolu]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181926&oldid=181290 * Ais523 * (+155) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Yayimhere2(school)|Yayimhere2(school)]] 04:07:52 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Syssolu]]": no useful content stating the existence of something without giving details is not useful, and the rest of the page is offtopic 04:09:35 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[['S.K.Y' Mandown is not a valid queue.]]": no useful content (states that an esolang exists, but just contains rambling and irrelevant links rather than a specification, with the only comprehensible detail being that it's queue-based) 04:12:11 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Linguistic Category:Math]]": does not appear to be actual language documentation the stated details belong to a range of different contexts and the page doesn't seem to be about anything in particular (and the stated "both an esolang and a category proposal" nature of it is never explained) 04:12:11 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Linguistic Category:Math]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: does not appear to be actual language documentation the stated details belong to a range of different contexts and the page doesn't seem to be about anything in particular (and the stated "both an esolang and a category 04:12:26 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[]]": content was: "Floor Function of dead fish. [[Category:stubs]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) 04:14:19 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Memristor]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language 04:14:19 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Memristor]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language 04:14:51 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:W-images-8-8a-mshakes.Hamlet.png]]": zero-pixel image 04:15:05 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:Mental-shakespeare.png]]": zero-pixel image 04:17:50 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:$$Aleph 0x1111111100000001.png-freeBSD.png]]": we don't need two copies of this image (in fact, I'm not sure we even need one copy of this image the other is [[https://esolangs.org/wiki/File:$$Aleph_0x1111111100000001.png]], this is just that in inverse video) 04:18:34 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[U Down ?]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language 04:20:49 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Old Joe's Milkshake]]": page is not useful for understanding the esolang it claims to document (if it even exists), what content is present is rambling and self-contradictory 04:20:49 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Old Joe's Milkshake]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: page is not useful for understanding the esolang it claims to document (if it even exists), what content is present is rambling and self-contradictory 04:21:11 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[U Down ?/presetMv golf]]": content was: "('''()''()''''')", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]]" ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) 04:21:18 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[U Down ?///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////]]": content was: "
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the supporting arguments being a list of unrelated mathematical results it is probably best to remove this sort of thing from the page beca 04:29:58 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:The Globe.png.png]]": offtopic (was only being used to decorate an article without being directly relevant to it, and is not related to esolangs) 04:30:49 [[Translated /PSTF Again4]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181931&oldid=181181 * Ais523 * (-38) Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:MihaiEso|MihaiEso]] 04:39:18 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Data and the Nymphir]]": the page does not appear to describe an esolang it's more like a sequence of fragments that might plausibly be part of an esolang spec, but they aren't related to each other except in terms of which words are used) 04:40:18 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[ReversibleFerrariMSB]]": copyright infringement (in addition to numerous other problems, but this is the easiest one to explain) 04:41:28 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Cain and Abel]]": page is self-contradictory and not a useful description of any given language 04:42:41 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:43:34 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Abysys]]": defined as a derivative of [[Cain and Abel]], but in a way that's inconsistent with the definition on that page (which was in turn inconsistent with itself), meaning that the entire page content is unusable 04:43:34 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Abysys]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: defined as a derivative of [[Cain and Abel]], but in a way that's inconsistent with the definition on that page (which was in turn inconsistent with itself), meaning that the entire page content is unusable 04:43:53 [[Matrioshka language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181932&oldid=181198 * Ais523 * (-21) Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow|PythonshellDebugwindow]] 04:44:00 [[Talk:Matrioshka language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181933&oldid=181199 * Ais523 * (-49) Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Ractangle|Ractangle]] 04:45:18 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:PSTF]]": vandalism 04:45:48 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:ndirae]]": contained only an offtopic (and mostly incomprehensible) comment 04:46:27 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Oragami]]": offtopic (consisting of random sentences mostly taken from other pages, rather than being discussion on the article [[Oragami]]) 04:48:22 [[User talk:ProjectEuler]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181934&oldid=181129 * Ais523 * (-224) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181129|181129]] by [[Special:Contributions/Miui|Miui]] ([[User talk:Miui|talk]]) category proposals should be left to [[Esolang talk:Categorization]] rather than placed on every page you think might belong in the category 04:50:13 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Iffiniternity]]": contains zero information about the language (other than specifying that the creator is [[User:Miui]], who didn't specify anything about the language) an article with no information is not useful to readers 04:51:06 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[W-images-8-8a-mshakes.Hamlet.png]]": offtopic or test page (article created only to embed a single image, but articles should be used for esolangs images already have a description page) 04:51:17 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[User:Miui/N]]": redirect to deleted page 04:53:20 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:User talk-Miui-$$Aleph 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Knife.png]]": offtopic 05:05:29 [[XKCD Random Number]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181935&oldid=180108 * Ais523 * (-223) undo two edits by [[User:Miui]] this program doesn't appear to be consistent with the specification of the language it claims to have been written in and thus is not a good example 05:07:03 [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181936&oldid=180598 * Ais523 * (-493) remove [[Oragami]] example as it doesn't appear to comply with the specification of the language it claims to have been written in 05:21:06 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181937&oldid=181868 * Ais523 * (+1786) /* Pages that are themselves art */ this is a difficult problem; explain the contradictory constraints 07:25:15 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181938&oldid=181937 * Salpynx * (+4865) going a bit beyond topicality to maybe more fundamental problems that likely prompted this, but trying to be constructive 07:29:01 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:31:55 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181939&oldid=181938 * Salpynx * (+2) /* Behaviour vs. Content */ sry, fixing my messed up category link 07:32:59 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181940&oldid=181767 * AeroPurple * (+241) 07:34:49 [[Stuley]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181941&oldid=177228 * Ractangle * (+3) 07:35:05 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ractangle * moved [[Stuley]] to [[Makeup]]: Renamed 07:35:23 [[User:Ractangle/Sandbox/Timeline 1832]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181944&oldid=169025 * Ractangle * (-974) 07:45:53 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181945&oldid=181939 * Salpynx * (+274) /* Behaviour vs. Content */ sub-page creation guidelines? 08:03:42 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 08:38:40 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181946&oldid=181945 * RocketRace * (+274) badly translated 09:28:10 Hi 10:42:10 -!- user24 has joined. 10:44:08 -!- user24 has quit (Client Quit). 11:39:22 [[Usernames]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181947&oldid=181792 * PrySigneToFry * (+584) 12:28:59 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181948&oldid=181946 * RocketRace * (+607) friction perchance? 12:41:05 [[Talk:Important lesbian virtual machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181949&oldid=180633 * RocketRace * (+112) /* import as from lang */ 13:07:51 -!- amby has joined. 13:10:11 [[Grill Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181950&oldid=181836 * Salpynx * (+177) /* External resources */ Python experiment in representing the data appendants as RLE 'grills' too 13:37:37 [[POY (2026)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181951 * RocketRace * (+6943) POY 13:38:22 [[User:RocketRace]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181952&oldid=166216 * RocketRace * (+122) poy 13:38:36 [[User:RocketRace]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181953&oldid=181952 * RocketRace * (+2) typo 13:38:55 [[User:RocketRace]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181954&oldid=181953 * RocketRace * (+15) proud 13:39:56 [[POY (2026)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181955&oldid=181951 * RocketRace * (+1258) Start with an example 13:43:12 [[POY (2026)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181956&oldid=181955 * RocketRace * (+0) The url has changed as I was creating this page 14:02:56 -!- b_jonas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:10:02 -!- b_jonas has joined. 14:33:54 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Rococo * New user account 14:43:20 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181957&oldid=181940 * Rococo * (+180) /* Introductions */ 15:49:37 [[4-list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181958&oldid=161544 * 47 * (-2) 15:53:11 [[Talk:=?]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181959 * 47 * (+71) Created page with "big insparation for the [[4KOWO-like esolang]] btw~~~" 15:54:28 [[User talk:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181960&oldid=173596 * 47 * (+8) Changed redirect target from [[User talk:Ractangle]] to [[User talk:Ractangle/Sandbox]] 15:56:55 [[User:Ractangle/Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181961&oldid=180906 * 47 * (+90) 16:03:48 [[User talk:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181962&oldid=181960 * 47 * (-8) ok maybe not 16:25:28 Today's fun awk bug: '[:…]' doesn't necessarily match-and-capture the entire ellipsis '…' so instead I have to use '(:|…)' 16:29:58 [[User:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181963&oldid=180996 * 47 * (+382) 16:43:20 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 16:44:20 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 16:46:15 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 16:50:17 -!- impomatic has joined. 16:57:52 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181964&oldid=181948 * Hotcrystal0 * (+1156) 17:04:29 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181965&oldid=181964 * Aadenboy * (+320) small comment 17:06:16 [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181966&oldid=181820 * Hotcrystal0 * (+351) 17:09:05 [[Esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181967&oldid=181966 * Hotcrystal0 * (+263) More on mass deletions 17:12:07 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181968&oldid=181965 * Hotcrystal0 * (+299) 17:25:34 [[Dodecahedron]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181969 * CodePentuplets48 * (+1816) Created page with "'''Dodecahedron''' is an esolang I created which centers on 12 dodecahedrons nested inside one another at different z-levels, 0 to 11. This is the memory. The instruction space is itself a square grid where you can place instructions. The instructions have 17:25:49 [[Dodecahedron]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181970&oldid=181969 * CodePentuplets48 * (+18) 17:26:03 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181971&oldid=181968 * Corbin * (+172) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ 17:27:44 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181972&oldid=181971 * Hotcrystal0 * (+414) 17:38:57 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181973&oldid=181972 * Hotcrystal0 * (+787) 17:50:57 [[User:CodePentuplets48]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181974&oldid=181628 * CodePentuplets48 * (+4) 17:52:06 [[User:CodePentuplets48]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181975&oldid=181974 * CodePentuplets48 * (+83) 18:10:28 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * TheUselessestGuy * New user account 18:19:22 [[User:47]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181976&oldid=181963 * Ractangle * (-382) ignore that pls 18:24:28 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181977&oldid=181973 * RocketRace * (+441) /* Behaviour vs. Content */ on splitting the wiki in half 18:29:34 -!- ais523 has joined. 18:42:12 [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181978 * Ais523 * (+570) warning used when a non-admin tries to create a category 18:42:49 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed]] to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-categorycreate]]: page created at the wrong title 18:43:09 [[User:Hammy/Box full of sand]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181980&oldid=181778 * Hammy * (+124) /* sizes of pages */ 18:46:42 [[User:Ais523 non-admin/Sandbox]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181981 * Ais523 non-admin * (+4) testing the new edit filter by verifying that non-admins can still create pages that aren't categories 18:48:45 hello! 18:49:11 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Goto]]": there isn't consensus to create this category yet (see [[Esolang talk:Categorization#Category:goto based]]), and if it were created it would't be at this name 18:50:29 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Pages with ignored display titles]]": blank category description page (and it can make sense for MediaWiki's auto-categories to not have a description page in order to more easily serve as an alert that something is wrong) 18:51:51 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181982&oldid=181977 * Ais523 * (+420) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ maybe we could have a template for this 18:53:55 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181983&oldid=181982 * Ais523 * (+624) /* Merging pages */ agreed 18:55:27 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181984&oldid=181983 * Ais523 * (+408) /* Pages that are themselves art */ r to RocketRace; this is an interesting idea but we would need to find details that work 19:10:17 hi somefan 19:14:34 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181985&oldid=181984 * Hotcrystal0 * (+424) 19:17:35 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181986&oldid=181985 * Aadenboy * (+465) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ 19:23:05 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181987&oldid=181986 * Hotcrystal0 * (+1059) /* Collaborative languages */ new section 19:24:10 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181988&oldid=181634 * Hotcrystal0 * (+387) /* About the policy proposals */ new section 19:26:06 [[Talk:CAPI]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181989&oldid=158388 * Hotcrystal0 * (-23) stuff 19:26:11 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181990&oldid=181987 * Somefan * (+232) wiki dumps? 19:28:28 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181991&oldid=181988 * Ais523 * (+386) /* About the policy proposals */ reply 19:31:18 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181992&oldid=181991 * Hotcrystal0 * (+282) typo on filter 19:36:00 `olist 1343 19:36:06 olist : shachaf oerjan Sgeo boily nortti b_jonas Noisytoot 19:37:27 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181993&oldid=181992 * Aadenboy * (+907) /* About the policy proposals */ adding my thoughts 19:39:49 [[MediaWiki talk:Abusefilter-categorycreate]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=181994 * Aadenboy * (+364) Created page with "bit of a nitpick, but I think the red is too harsh here and it's a bit hard to read the text ~~~~" 19:52:37 [[MediaWiki talk:Abusefilter-categorycreate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181995&oldid=181994 * Ais523 * (+401) it's so that people don't miss the fact that the edit wasn't saved 20:18:57 `help 20:18:57 Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch [] " downloads files. Files saved to $HACKENV are persistent, and $HACKENV/bin is in $PATH. $HACKENV is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ to browse. $PWD ($HACKENV/tmp) is persistent but unversioned, /tmp is ephemeral. 20:26:07 -!- impomatic has quit (Quit: Client closed). 20:33:18 [[User:Aadenboy/Live stats]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181996&oldid=181061 * Aadenboy * (-661) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/181061|181061]] by [[Special:Contributions/Aadenboy|Aadenboy]] ([[User talk:Aadenboy|talk]]) 20:43:42 -!- somefan has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:46:57 -!- somefan has joined. 20:51:46 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181997&oldid=181993 * CodePentuplets48 * (+180) 20:57:36 -!- somefan has changed hostmask to ~somefan@user/somefan. 21:03:42 [[DODO]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181998&oldid=181781 * QuantumV * (+115) add get 21:05:29 [[DODO]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=181999&oldid=181998 * QuantumV * (+0) /* Var Ops */ 21:05:40 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182000&oldid=181990 * Corbin * (+217) /* Collaborative languages */ 21:05:42 [[DODO]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182001&oldid=181999 * QuantumV * (+1) /* I/O Ops */ 21:06:25 -!- amby has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:14:26 Hmm, is it good to get a core dump from /usr/lib/firefox/crashreporter ? 21:16:22 (I deleted it, but maybe I should look more closely.) 21:31:56 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182002&oldid=182000 * Blashyrkh * (+255) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ 21:32:42 -!- svm has joined. 21:34:54 -!- msv has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:39:12 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182003&oldid=182002 * Ais523 * (+203) /* Regarding any potential mass deletions */ deleted pages are backed up 21:40:57 -!- amby has joined. 21:54:05 [[Esolang talk:2026 topicality proposal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=182004&oldid=182003 * Salpynx * (+1351) /* Collaborative languages */ ...like a video of your friends playing a single game of football last thursday placed at the same level as an article about football 22:05:29 -!- salpynx has joined. 22:07:53 hi, thought I'd loiter here a bit given all the recent admin topicality discussion. IRC might be more efficient 22:09:11 I appreciate the admin effort, thanks for implementing the Category warning so quickly! Wasn't expecting that to go in immediately 22:21:22 I'd been thinking about it for a while, thanks for spurring me to actually do it 22:22:42 I've been procrastinating on starting a proper topicality discussion for months or possibly years (although it was more a case of not having enough mental energy) 22:23:09 I guess I should also thank the people finding new and creative things that need rules against them, in order to inform the decisions about where the lines should be 22:27:39 oh, it's not just a warning, it actually prevents the page being created 22:37:25 that's what basically what I was suggesting. It happens so rarely I don't think it's a problem to be admin only 22:50:27 -!- pool has quit (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat). 22:52:16 -!- pool has joined. 22:52:33 salpynx: Thanks for weighing in. I appreciate that moderate folks are adding moderate opinions; it makes me look like a git, but that's fine. 23:05:28 I just feel like there's so many pages where I'd find it hard to judge if they're on topic. I hope it'll be easier for you, or whatever other people you rope in as wiki admins. 23:06:28 part of the problem is that I'm also one of the people who just has an esolang idea and then posts it that day, without an interpreter or much analysis (beyond, sometimes, a computational class proof) 23:07:05 I think my esolangs posted like that are better than the average other person's esolangs posted like that – but I also see my activity as beneficial and find it hard to characterise how others' is different 23:10:27 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:10:38 heh, np @korvo! I think we agree on being harsh against user created concept categories, and joke proofs etc., I'm quite liberal on what I'd accept for language pages (high tolerance for absurd art), but in most cases I find myself agreeing with your handling of other users via talkpages 23:11:29 fwiw I see both korvo and salpynx as being on the more exclusionary side of the conversation (but that's partly because I expect a nontrivial number of people to believe that the wiki should accept absolutely anything) 23:16:28 I mostly want consistency in how rules are enforced. I was raised by lawyers, which is like being raised by wolves except that I use too many words instead of too few. 23:17:13 I want to see extra sandboxes and user-editable pages removed in order to stay consistent with the single-sandbox and no-social-media rules, for example. I don't mind that people have personal stuff on user pages per se. 23:17:42 salpynx: Thanks. FWIW I wish that I were able to be more polite and understanding with the younger contributors; I know that I'm getting old and out-of-touch. 23:18:05 I find the not fully fleshed out ideas are totally fine, but its something about quantity of similar edits shifts it into a meta wiki editing activity for its own sake, and diminishes the information content of whatever was posted. I'm struggling to define it too 23:19:39 -!- somefan has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:24:45 I'd defend almost any one of that recent user that was blocked's language pages individually, even though I can't quite figure out what was going on with most many seemed like the had a kernel of an idea, but the ignored warnings about using preview, vandalism and unhelpful edits to existing pages shifted it into a pattern of disruptive behaviour 23:25:12 the warnings and temp block seemed appropriate 23:25:53 I think they were undesirable for a similar reason as LLM-generated pages are, as in they appeared to be saying something but actually weren't 23:25:59 but I don't think they were LLM-produced 23:26:12 I feel a little bad I may have encouraged them by interacting, but I was trying to be welcoming and demonstrate wiki norms or something. I've kinda fallen into this trap before 23:26:51 I would have been lighter on them if they weren't making my job almost impossible 23:27:19 many of the pages there should have been deleted earlier (e.g. the zero-sized images) but I just couldn't keep track of them because edits were being spammed in such quantity 23:32:56 Does mediawiki have a built-in mechanism to force new users go through a draft review process for their first edit? I wouldn't want that to add admin overhead, but it seems that some users are collecting mediwiki accounts to 'play-mediawiki' games. esolangs seems very permissive and a target 23:33:59 I recall some userpages listing other mediawikis users were banned from as a kind of social-media badge, which is equally funny, and worrying 23:34:11 salpynx: not built in 23:34:22 -!- svm has changed nick to msv. 23:34:32 the edit filter extension is programmable enough to come up with things like the Introduce yourself page 23:35:22 (which is designed to be difficult for spambot frameworks to navigate, I'm not sure a single spambot has managed to get through it yet, the occasional human looking to spam has though) 23:35:45 some kind of initial speed bump to halt the new sign-ups creating multiple pages a day. That's a pattern that seems to repeat, then they settle down to more constructive edits, or move on 23:37:38 I forgot about the intial captcha coding challenge, that is clever and seems successful. It ensures we only get human spammers with a certain level of obsessiveness :D 23:38:14 the spambots were actually able to get through the Befunge captcha, which is kind-of amazing 23:38:26 that's why we needed the Introduce yourself on top of that 23:38:41 I'm not sure whether someone taught the spambots Befunge or whether they delegated to human CAPTCHA-solvers 23:41:05 -!- Guest12 has joined. 23:42:50 or if someone thought the spambots just this one specific type of befunge program, the radix 9 decode 23:43:37 salpynx: The sad fact is that we already have a fantastic spam filter. The analogy I usually use in IRC is the question of city managers when faced with a wave of graffiti: how to gently discourage vandalism while permitting artists to florish? 23:44:09 b_jonas: I've often wondered what would have happened if we changed the captcha to include some OS commands that gathered system information, in the hope of tricking the spambots into revealing information about themselves 23:44:23 but there are numerous reasons why that would have been a bad idea, and it's too late to try now 23:44:26 ...Well, okay, it's not sad that we have a filter. It's sad that the filter has limited effect. 23:44:59 ais523: yeah, hope they're running without adequate sandboxing, send them a full reverse shell, and steal all of their botnet. 23:45:08 easy to apply Templates that point to relevant constructive guidelines seems like a good way for non admins to flag high speed edits would enable better community policing. From fighting spam elsewhere I know it's a battle of resources, you lose if you have to construct a polite custom msg each time, in case it's not a bot 23:45:31 salpynx: BTW another proposition I've had, only slightly deletionist, is to delete [[language list]]. I think that many of our youngsters get some sort of yomi or aura from tagging the wall, so to speak, and [[language list]] is one of several tagging spots. 23:46:20 korvo: I have been planning to replace that for a while, but the semi-serious language list isn't quite in the right space to replace it yet 23:47:09 I don't like the semi-serious language list 23:47:14 ais523: From our last conversation, I recall that the main issue was that we have lots of incoming bluelinks to it, including from templates and MW includes, which would need to be fixed up to either point to [[:category:languages]] or be completely reworded. 23:47:37 could we delete the joke language list and the semi-serious language list but keep the language list? 23:47:41 (As always, if you need some mass editing done and you're just not feeling like doing it, but you can specify it, just ask me to do it.) 23:48:06 I tended to avoid adding my own things to [[langauge list]] because I didn't quite see the point of it over Category:Languages, they are both unwieldy. I feel even stronger against the 'semi-serious language list' though, it's a watered down 2.0 that will likely suffer from the same fundamental problem 23:48:08 b_jonas: I think the SSLL is better than the current language list (which is mostly just redundant to the category) 23:48:09 it won't help too much, but I feel like a joke language list just encourages a few people to write joke languages and doesn't really have positive effects 23:48:32 Gonna leave in a few for the bar. Either running Super Metroid or Link to the Past, bartender's choice. 23:48:37 lol, multpile haters of the 'semi-serious' list! 23:48:45 fwiw, with these topicality proposals, Category:Languages may turn into something more like the current SSLL due to merging languages that are too similar onto single pages 23:50:26 but my ideal is that you can pick a random page and find something interesting 23:50:35 a page listing all the BF equivalents is a lot more interesting than a page listing a single one would be 23:50:44 salpynx: I think that the problem with "semi-serious" is that it's polysemous. For me, it might be something that I'm not sure is a real language, I guess? I don't use the category at all. But for some regular contributors it's a "lol xd random" sort of category, while for others it's a "I have not proven this to have coherent reduction" sorts of silliness. 23:51:02 korvo: the page is clearly misnamed 23:51:10 ais523: Yes! Make Special:Random interesting again! 23:51:25 I think the goal is to exclude useless/uninteresting/redundant languages while not excluding esolangs just due to being esoteric 23:53:13 fwiw I strongly oppose merging historically separate pages like Lenguage and Unary, but for pretty specific reasons. They have a history, and I created an almost similar lang with slightly different features because the subtle differences once seemed very important to me. At some point it gets arguable, do we merge pages about all sub-species of cats (animal) into one article or not? I also don't think it's the most important argument to have :) 23:53:32 maybe the original idea for a name was "serious language list" and then it was rejected because esolangs aren't considered serious by most people 23:53:54 salpynx: I think merging pages with subtle differences is actually a good thing, as it helps you focus on the differences 23:54:21 like, you can write once about the concept of using length as source code (including things like EOF sort-of being like a symbol), and then talk about the languages based on it and what the precise differences are 23:54:37 salpynx: Hey, if it was good enough for Aristoteles to talk about~ Categorization is certainly hard. I think that, at least from what I recall at the time, ais523 is talking about concepts like [[constant language]], where we hashed out a unifying framework as infrastructure for an eventual removal of all (most?) of the constant-language pages. 23:55:19 "length as source code" becomes super-interesting when you start thinking about non-integer lengths 23:56:38 I'd worry that if an existing language page contained a lot of information in context, merging could destroy that information, especially if performed by someone who wasn't familiar with the subtleties. Many esolangs have hidden peculiarities not immediately obvious. I'd worry assuming "sameness" could lose info _for pre-existing dense article_ 23:56:56 oh yes, it would have to be done carefully 23:57:05 OTOH, that information is mostly not present even in the current pages 23:57:15 Oh, also, consider that we have other ways of making bluelinks branch out. For example, check out the "main article" pattern I used on [[computable]], [[self-reproducing object]], or [[Turing tarpit]]. We *can* have fairly clean trees of articles with central hubs without listicles. 23:57:55 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Lenguage is very unclear on the fact that the I/O is totally different from most BF derivatives (the only thing indicating it's different is the reference interpreter) 23:58:16 salpynx: Yes, another good point. [[Lesser known programming languages]] is a recent one, or [[prehistory of esoteric programming languages]] is a personal favorite. Sometimes we gotta do research. 23:58:51 fwiw, I think listicles, perhaps accompanied by a separate article about the concept, are actually a good format for conveying esolang knowledge