< 1780445151 70190 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds > 1780446261 451110 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183003&oldid=182610 5* 03Zip 5* (+102) 10add hardfunge > 1780446295 953644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183004&oldid=183003 5* 03Zip 5* (+0) 10/* External resources */ move hardfunge to right place, oops < 1780449689 740474 :lisbeths!uid135845@id-135845.lymington.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1780450116 276895 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1780451620 496562 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you made a better format than PDF, what would be your idea? I would probably use SDER (which is between BER and DER; one thing that is allowed that is not allowed in DER is overlong length encodings, so this can be useful for the encoder, to be able to go back and fill in the length later). I would probably want to exclude many features of PDF but also add a few other things. < 1780451700 468753 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :For example, I would still want the possibility of spot colours, but I might have only raster graphics (perhaps with the possibility of multiple layers), with a compression that can be suitable to store the picture at multiple resolutions, in order to improve the quality. < 1780451929 114320 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :One other thing to add would be possibility of specifying colour variants, so that e.g. you can print the same file on monochrome vs colour printer and still working OK. < 1780452076 576666 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a OID for Pantone? > 1780454517 410673 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Emmyrain 5* 10New user account < 1780454723 761412 :somefan!~somefan@user/somefan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1780455414 495714 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Pictures are an oddity that COBOL is known for and PL/I has due to the influence of COBOL. Oh, the unusual features page doesn't mention pictures :( < 1780455477 803125 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm reading a PL/I document and think I understand pictures in the context of PL/I, but maybe not so much in the context of COBOL (though I'm pretty sure it's similar) < 1780455555 262308 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If it is a unusual feature not mentioned, then probably it should be added on < 1780455953 914346 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can describe it in PL/I terms but probably not COBOL terms which might be the more appropriate place for it < 1780455983 304923 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have seen that feature of COBOL before but do not quite know its working. > 1780456324 22204 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183005&oldid=182118 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+431) 10/* PL/I */ pictures < 1780456407 650610 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://bitsavers.org/pdf/honeywell/large_systems/multics/AM83A_PL1refMan_Sep78.pdf has something of a PL/I tutorial, although it's a bit... detailed. < 1780456433 816334 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Pages about conversions in an introductory section < 1780456491 339225 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, the Multics PL/I uses ", I'm not sure if all PL/Is use that > 1780456877 907835 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183006&oldid=183005 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+1) 10/* PL/I */ Use syntax that PL/I Optimizing Compiler likes < 1780457010 162138 :MizMahem_!uid296354@id-296354.helmsley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs * :🐍🐔 > 1780460258 869256 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183007&oldid=183006 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+0) 10PL/I I think "pictured" is the term for the variables. At least, I saw the Multics PL/I reference use that < 1780463550 692199 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :The way to dynamically allocate an array with length known at runtime is... interesting, but I'm not totally sure that my understanding of it is the recommended/only PL/I way < 1780463597 836480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :(You can declare the array to have a size declared in a variable, and using the allocate statement will allocate the array with the size that's currently in that variable. Assuming that the array is "controlled", which is what allows the allocate statement) < 1780463637 961219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :declare n fixed binary; declare a(n) fixed binary controlled; n = 5; allocate a; < 1780463989 195437 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds > 1780464572 265010 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Everyonelang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183008&oldid=155853 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+116) 10/* Instructions */ < 1780464635 787841 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs hooloovoo :Hooloovoo < 1780464713 745265 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1780464909 856625 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs * :Hooloovoo < 1780464946 774878 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1780464946 826882 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1780465098 786951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183009&oldid=182993 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+482) 10Added some extra commands. < 1780465209 533057 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 JOIN #esolangs ehmry :Emery < 1780465391 945595 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@216.169.5.238 JOIN #esolangs hooloovoo :Hooloovoo < 1780465429 864704 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1780465878 973824 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@216.169.5.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1780465929 75212 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs hooloovoo :Hooloovoo > 1780465947 916179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07EternalGolf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183010&oldid=180450 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+90) 10Added a few instructions! > 1780467140 557522 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=183011 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+634) 10Created page with "'''''' is a golfing esolang based on the Chinese language. It uses a stack and functions to store numbers. == Instructions == - Addition. - Subtract. - Multiply. - Division. - Push. - Pop. - Print. - Input. - Assign. - While. - If. - Else. - Function. - Return. > 1780473026 897627 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Hakerh400/Question for AI models14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183012&oldid=183002 5* 03Blashyrkh 5* (+16) 10About a nature of these experiments < 1780477092 699303 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi > 1780477633 182223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PointsCopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183013&oldid=182986 5* 03Simple9371 5* (+162) 10Lots of rewording < 1780479349 39015 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1780479621 522468 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 JOIN #esolangs ehmry :Emery > 1780480189 546315 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Monky14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183014&oldid=182666 5* 03Menguinponky 5* (-88) 10 > 1780480608 33480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Monky14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183015&oldid=183014 5* 03Menguinponky 5* (+2) 10 > 1780483413 168290 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PointsCopy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183016&oldid=183013 5* 03Simple9371 5* (+40) 10/* Copy Conditions */ p_3, p_5, ... are not in gp_1 > 1780483460 664836 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PointsCopy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183017&oldid=183016 5* 03Simple9371 5* (+2) 10/* Copy Conditions */ do > does > 1780483586 322916 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PointsCopy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183018&oldid=183017 5* 03Simple9371 5* (+36) 10/* Copy Conditions */ Clarify "any mentioned point" < 1780484531 889355 :amby!~ambylastn@host-92-17-37-104.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1780485977 624367 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1780486016 19997 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1780486149 769191 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1780489331 897789 :inhahe_!~inhahe@user/inhahe JOIN #esolangs inhahe :exalumen.blog - iyaesorai.wordpress.com < 1780490919 611621 :inhahe_!~inhahe@user/inhahe PRIVMSG #esolangs :How do I submit a lang to esolangs.org? < 1780491033 714079 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :inhahe_: You can make an account and make a page. Be prepared for people to edit that page. < 1780491046 574299 :inhahe_!~inhahe@user/inhahe PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, thantks. < 1780491600 412775 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1780491872 517282 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 JOIN #esolangs ehmry :Emery < 1780492945 601818 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic > 1780494074 524380 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Eode 5* 10New user account > 1780494354 428225 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183019&oldid=182979 5* 03Eode 5* (+199) 10/* Introductions */ > 1780494593 440635 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Hakerh400/Question for AI models14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183020&oldid=183012 5* 03Blashyrkh 5* (+1) 10Not sure if it's polite to fix typo in other people's messages on talk pages. Sorry in advance > 1780494659 871800 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183021&oldid=183011 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+45) 10Add categories < 1780497177 764365 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1780498910 602885 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1780499208 490395 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1780499227 786770 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 JOIN #esolangs ehmry :Emery > 1780500826 476315 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183022&oldid=183021 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+40) 10 > 1780502186 128691 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183023&oldid=183009 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+1035) 10 < 1780504215 142556 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1780504777 226938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183024&oldid=183023 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+112) 10/* Examples */ < 1780508485 636398 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1780508512 518871 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 JOIN #esolangs ehmry :Emery < 1780509250 240330 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1780509263 778555 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 JOIN #esolangs ehmry :Emery > 1780509867 938366 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Bobby Jacobs 5* 10New user account < 1780509982 266579 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :cu < 1780509983 57225 :APic!apic@chiptune.apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :😴 > 1780510155 946696 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Miui 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Pitxtal.png10]]" > 1780510429 674277 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07a pit-crystal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183026&oldid=182940 5* 03Miui 5* (-4453) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1780510990 610632 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic > 1780511107 169694 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183027&oldid=183019 5* 03Bobby Jacobs 5* (+137) 10 > 1780511126 835091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Int.png10]]" > 1780511225 158746 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183029&oldid=169736 5* 03Bobby Jacobs 5* (+91) 10/* Table of combinators */ > 1780511424 28020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183030&oldid=183024 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+110) 10 > 1780511453 961890 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183031&oldid=183029 5* 03Bobby Jacobs 5* (-274) 10/* Table of combinators */ > 1780511573 89337 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183032&oldid=183031 5* 03Bobby Jacobs 5* (-17) 10/* Table of combinators */ > 1780511765 913319 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07a pit-crystal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183033&oldid=183026 5* 03Miui 5* (+2056) 10/* Interpreter */ > 1780512044 369666 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07a pit-crystal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183034&oldid=183033 5* 03Miui 5* (-1) 10 > 1780515245 432864 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183035&oldid=177089 5* 03Blashyrkh 5* (+349) 10/* Table of common well-studied combinators - other bases? */ new section > 1780516186 57955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183036&oldid=183030 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+379) 10 < 1780516458 48457 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1780517421 603771 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1780517421 759991 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If I have P registers (P0 to P3, each storing address of an instruction) and I registers (I0 to I3, which are unsigned), and P0 is the current instruction address, and any write to I1, I2, or I3 that would increase its value also causes the corresponding P to point to the end of the program (except the instruction to exchange P with P0 and the corresponding I with I0). < 1780517525 422916 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Flow controls include forward jumps (conditional and unconditional), as well as swapping P with P0 and the corresponding I with I0, and copy P0 to P with an unconditional jump, and one that if I is zero then decrement and copy P to P0 but if I is zero then I is unchanged and P points to the end of the program. > 1780517557 105425 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope.14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183037&oldid=182935 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+88) 10Added ASCIIscript and INT. < 1780517741 204469 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :maeve (she/her) > 1780518036 540663 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183038&oldid=183036 5* 03ASCIIguy 5* (+123) 10Added categories. < 1780518246 691254 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Would infinite loops be possible? > 1780518966 573928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Hotcrystal0/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=183039&oldid=182997 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+86) 10 < 1780520547 148460 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1780522063 896162 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1780522083 514969 :emery!~quassel@217.155.30.169 JOIN #esolangs ehmry :Emery < 1780522683 592814 :inhahe_!~inhahe@user/inhahe PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do i know when i'm allowed to make a page on esolangs.org? it said i have to make an intro line first, i did thta < 1780522948 51417 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How to prevent PulseAudio from starting? < 1780523773 627410 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I figured it out < 1780524346 694234 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :inhahe_: You should be good to go. Please remember to observe Wikipedia/Mediawiki conventions; if in doubt, read [[esolang:policy]] and [[esolang:help]] first. < 1780525819 539003 :inhahe_!~inhahe@user/inhahe PRIVMSG #esolangs :i can include a link to my github for the interpreter, right? < 1780525920 202674 :inhahe_!~inhahe@user/inhahe PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and is it okay if AI helped me write some of the specs and wrote the interpreter? < 1780525973 88935 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bb1bbb.dyn.optonline.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1780526584 510291 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :inhahe_: Links to GH are fine. Chatbot output is more-or-less not welcome; see [[esolang:2026 topicality proposal]] (linked at the top of every page) for more details. While we have no opinion or control over what you push to GH, please consider using your own words to describe your work. < 1780526608 306480 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Search for "LLM-generated descriptions of languages are usually wrong (and have questionable copyright status). This is true even if the language itself was designed with LLM assistance. As such, using an LLM to write language specifications for the wiki is not allowed…" < 1780526624 400244 :inhahe_!~inhahe@user/inhahe PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, thanks. < 1780528586 671090 :amby!~ambylastn@host-92-17-37-104.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement < 1780529431 915468 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed