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01:17:27 <esolangs> [[User:RaiseAfloppaFan3925]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187156&oldid=186334 * RaiseAfloppaFan3925 * (+213) Why not [[Esolang:Community portal|join us on IRC]]?
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03:44:19 <esolangs> [[SonicSaga]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187157&oldid=179113 * PrincessPandaLovelace * (+2561) Yes, I am still working on the programming language. It's just from time to time.
03:53:16 <esolangs> [[List of quines]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187158&oldid=185164 * VP3NEG * (-2) /* Python */
04:34:55 <b_jonas> fungot, how much score do you have on ICFP contest so far?
04:34:56 <fungot> b_jonas: don't do what? !glass fnord?
04:34:57 <esolangs> [[CLEAR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187159&oldid=187152 * Corbin * (+29) Tag slop. There's not even any code and the language names are Googlewhacks.
04:38:33 <b_jonas> fungot: this may change, but currently you can get in the top 200 with very little effort
04:38:33 <fungot> b_jonas: so what would you want to do this?" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord
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06:04:51 <esolangs> [[Alexandrion]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187161&oldid=187160 * Miui * (+9) Tag AI slop
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06:26:20 <b_jonas> ais523: I'd like to note that the new esolang Little Men from ICFP 2026 allows writing polyglots very easily, because it just ignores most things in the source code that it doesn't understand. You can just write comments anywhere, as long as they don't look like a box (room) or display box, aren't in the way of what looks like a prefix of an arrow, you never try to execute it as an instruction, isn't
06:26:26 <b_jonas> between backticks in a box, and isn't an at sign or backtick in a box.
06:26:53 <ais523> b_jonas: I'm not sure if anyone's still updating the megapolyglot thread at CGCC but it'd likely be quite easy to fit in
06:27:14 <ais523> the primary problem would likely be trying to test it to make sure that none of the other several hundred languages broke
06:28:49 <b_jonas> yeah. but it can work for smaller polyglots. I was just wondering if we should modify the captcha on the esowiki for creating a new user to Little Man, possibly a polyglot, since writing numbers in base 9 is natural in Little Man (though the syntax isn't as terse as in Befunge) so the base 9 would work as an injoke for those who know the current captcha.
06:30:57 <b_jonas> what deoes lwoercase s do in Befunge? I wonder how possible it is to make it a polyglot that has the base 9 digits only once
06:33:51 <b_jonas> hmm, lowercase s tries to store a character, which wouldn't be a problem but it pops from the stack. so that's no good.
06:34:43 <b_jonas> then I think we need might need a bulkier snaking setup, where one language goes straight through the digits and the other crosses it up and down in a zig-zag.
06:35:56 <b_jonas> how many arguments does lowercase s pop?
06:36:59 <b_jonas> maybe we could work it around with some extra b instructions that push numbers for s to pop in Befunge
06:42:13 <b_jonas> apparently s pops one value from the stack, stores it to the next instruction in fungespace, and skips that instruction. we can work with that, though it'll mean three extra columns between each digit
06:44:39 <b_jonas> at that point a snaking solution might be more readable
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06:49:11 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187162&oldid=186927 * None1 * (+110) /* Interpreter (Trigbf7 dialect) */ Replace with a better one
06:49:59 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187163&oldid=187162 * None1 * (-120)
06:51:02 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187164&oldid=187163 * None1 * (-552) /* Hello, world! */
06:54:21 <b_jonas> or just two entirely separate programs that share nothing
06:56:38 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187165&oldid=187164 * None1 * (+42) /* Nope. */
06:56:50 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187166&oldid=187165 * None1 * (-1) /* Hello, world! */
06:57:10 <b_jonas> that's a pity, it would have been nice to have a readable polyglot
06:57:57 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187167&oldid=187166 * None1 * (-377) /* XKCD Random Number */
07:01:35 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187168&oldid=187050 * None1 * (+640) /* Probably a better interpreter */ Your interpreter is probably correct
07:03:41 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187169&oldid=187168 * None1 * (+409)
07:04:54 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187170&oldid=187169 * Blashyrkh * (+127) /* Original examples do not work */
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07:16:28 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187171&oldid=187170 * None1 * (+424) /* Original examples do not work */
07:16:51 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187172&oldid=187171 * None1 * (+2) /* Original examples do not work */
07:19:33 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187173&oldid=187167 * None1 * (+139) /* Interpreter (Trigbf7 dialect) */
07:19:49 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187174&oldid=187173 * None1 * (-26) /* Interpreter (Trigbf7 dialect) */
07:19:58 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187175&oldid=187174 * None1 * (+0) /* Interpreter (Trigbf7 dialect) */
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07:53:50 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187176&oldid=187172 * Blashyrkh * (+446) /* Much shorter Hello, world! */
08:02:12 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187177&oldid=187175 * None1 * (+200) /* Hello, world! */
08:03:21 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187178&oldid=187177 * None1 * (+55) /* Hello, world! */
08:04:27 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187179&oldid=187176 * None1 * (+332) /* Much shorter Hello, world! */
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08:55:30 <esolangs> [[Interpret Esolangs Online]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187180&oldid=187107 * None1 * (+0) /* Introduction */
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09:27:10 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Iyjaa * New user account
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09:48:16 <esolangs> [[Nonumbers]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187182&oldid=186348 * Randomguy34 * (-17)
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11:16:36 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187183&oldid=187179 * PkmnQ * (+1154) [[Quine]] finished
11:31:01 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187184&oldid=187183 * Blashyrkh * (+186)
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11:58:50 <esolangs> [[N++]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=187186 * Randomguy34 * (+1189) Created page with "== intorduction == N++ is a variation of [[Nonumbers|nonumbers]] designed to have only numbers, it was created by [[User:Randomguy34]], the same creator of nonumbers == how the esolang works == N++ is the same as nonumbers, but it converts all allowed symbols into binar
11:59:28 <esolangs> [[N++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187187&oldid=187186 * Randomguy34 * (+56)
12:00:00 <esolangs> [[Nonumbers]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187188&oldid=187182 * Randomguy34 * (+39)
12:00:22 <esolangs> [[N++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187189&oldid=187187 * Randomguy34 * (-5)
12:01:21 <esolangs> [[N++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187190&oldid=187189 * Randomguy34 * (+29)
12:15:39 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187191&oldid=187185 * None1 * (-2836) /* Nope. */ Replace with a shorter one
12:16:09 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187192&oldid=187191 * None1 * (-65) /* XKCD Random Number */
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12:27:06 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187193&oldid=187192 * None1 * (-6435) /* Hello, world! */
12:27:26 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187194&oldid=187193 * None1 * (-4) /* Hello, world! */
12:28:12 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187195&oldid=187194 * None1 * (+1250) /* Examples (In Trigbf7) */
12:28:55 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187196&oldid=187195 * None1 * (+51) /* Examples (In Trigbf7) */
12:30:47 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187197&oldid=187196 * None1 * (-1) /* Hello, world! */
12:31:29 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187198&oldid=187184 * None1 * (+363) /* Much shorter Hello, world! */
12:32:29 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187199&oldid=187197 * None1 * (+48) /* Examples (In Trigbf7) */
12:44:34 <esolangs> [[Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187200&oldid=187199 * None1 * (+31) /* Commands */
12:46:54 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187201&oldid=186884 * Miui * (+248) /* I've only ever seen malware analysts use the word "data-flow" */ new section
12:47:55 <esolangs> [[Vibes]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187202&oldid=187138 * Harshit-Gupta-2005 * (-270)
12:53:50 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187203&oldid=187201 * Miui * (+358) /* A Boson Cannon */ new section
12:56:11 <esolangs> [[User guessed]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187204&oldid=178745 * PKMN Trainer * (+539)
12:57:33 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187205&oldid=187203 * Miui * (+39)
13:19:02 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui/Drafts/DHS]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=187206 * Miui * (+221) /* Defensive Hacking Schetchlang */ new section
13:20:43 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui/Drafts/DHS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187207&oldid=187206 * Miui * (+32) /* Defensive Hacking Schetchlang */
13:21:38 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui/Drafts/DHS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187208&oldid=187207 * Miui * (+0) correct sketch
13:26:30 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui/Drafts/DHS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187209&oldid=187208 * Miui * (+228) Storm-incomplete
13:28:09 <esolangs> [[Vibes]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187210&oldid=187202 * RaiseAfloppaFan3925 * (-28) Those categories don't even exist...
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13:57:28 <esolangs> [[Mention]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187212&oldid=179182 * PKMN Trainer * (+34) /* Syntax */
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14:35:37 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187214&oldid=187213 * Yayimhere2(school) * (+115) /* Collaboration? */ sign, oops.
14:52:34 <esolangs> [[Whizz]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187215&oldid=187068 * Splot-dev * (+51) Clarification on whitespace insignificance
15:02:23 <esolangs> [[Talk:Aheui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187216&oldid=187059 * Miui * (+101) /* Lost Kingdom */
15:02:48 <esolangs> [[Talk:Aheui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187217&oldid=187216 * Miui * (+20) /* Lost Kingdom */
15:05:37 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187218&oldid=187214 * Miui * (+322) /* Collaboration? */
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15:09:37 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187219&oldid=187218 * Yayimhere2(school) * (+314) /* Collaboration? */
15:23:38 <esolangs> [[User talk:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187220&oldid=187219 * Yayimhere2(school) * (+146) /* English users are stupid */
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18:06:54 <esolangs> [[Vibes]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187222&oldid=187210 * Corbin * (+29) Retag slop. Don't remove this tag unless you're prepared to prove that you wrote this article and the linked code.
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18:51:09 <esolangs> [[Vibes]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187224&oldid=187222 * Aadenboy * (-23) remove beginning whitespace; remove linebreaking in wikitext
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20:21:56 <esolangs> [[Mention]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187225&oldid=187212 * PKMN Trainer * (-1) /* Syntax */
21:10:39 <esolangs> [[Talk:5D Brainfuck With Multiverse Time Travel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187226&oldid=187121 * RocketRace * (+121) you're right though
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21:36:39 <esolangs> [[Talk:Trigbf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187228&oldid=187227 * Blashyrkh * (+268) /* Output of negative values */ new section
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21:53:23 <esolangs> [[Whizz]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187229&oldid=187215 * Splot-dev * (+144) Added correction and another example
22:02:13 <esolangs> [[User made]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=187230&oldid=173578 * PKMN Trainer * (+523)
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22:06:48 <aadenboy> fizzie: math tags aren't rendering anymore
22:07:43 <aadenboy> the page still takes as long as it normally would to render when doing a purge or dummy edit but the tags don't actually turn into anything
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22:08:40 <aadenboy> the special page for the math extension has disappeared too...
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22:50:28 <fizzie> Oh, I probably forgot to include the extension when upgrading MediaWiki. Dunno how that happened.
22:50:39 <fizzie> Either that, or something in its config has changed.
22:56:32 <fizzie> No, it's still there, shows up on Special:Version's extension list too. Odd.
22:59:12 <fizzie> I'll have a closer look later. A sample page with some math on it would also be handy to know.
23:06:06 <aadenboy> fizzie: [[Arbitrary Memory Emulation]] has a fair bit of math tags
23:06:17 <aadenboy> er, [[Arbitrary memory emulation]] not in title case
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23:21:30 <fizzie> Hmm. It's some sort of a output format selection problem thing.
23:22:04 <fizzie> On Special:MathStatus, everything renders fine in the three currently supported modes, LaTeX, MathML and MathJax.
23:22:54 <fizzie> But on my user preferences page, the math option is set to SVG, which seems to have been phased out in 1.43.
23:23:35 <fizzie> (It's under "Apperance" there.)
23:24:07 <fizzie> If I switch it to (e.g.) MathML there, math starts to show up again.
23:24:56 <fizzie> I've got `$wgDefaultUserOptions['math'] = 'mathml';` set, but I guess for every user who's gotten their setting set to SVG (which used to be the default) it's stuck to that and therefore doesn't render correctly.
23:26:17 <fizzie> I'm not sure why user preferences still show SVG when I've got the $wgMathValidModes setting set to ['mathml', 'mathjax', 'source'] only.
23:36:29 <fizzie> If I got this query right, there's 3, 2, 3, 2, 2, 14 users with the math mode option set to 2, 3, 4, "native", "png" and "source", respectively. I believe 3 corresponds to "source", and 2/4 don't seem to correspond to anything, as far as MathConfig.php constants are concerned.
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23:40:10 <fizzie> Anyway, you might be able to work around the issue for yourself by setting your preference to one of the supported modes. I'll try to figure out some way to make the defaults work reasonably. Also, weirdly, in incognito mode (as a logged-out user) I still get the fallback image rendered via wikimedia.org Mathoid API.
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