00:56:20 [[User:Miui/Drafts/Nomea]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=188252 * Miui * (+140) Created page with "Nomea is a Dafne derivative that uses the alphabet 
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06:18:46  [[User made (finalized)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=188255 * Helpeesl * (+1774) Doing what needed to be done
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08:47:19  fungot: What's the longest Anubis check you've seen so far? My browser is working on a 5 minutes one...
08:47:19  int-e: picture of omur confronting a problem set with hints/ solutions
08:48:45  (I guess it would be faster with more cores but I only have 6.)
09:09:20  Also 5 was an estimate; it took over 7 minutes in the end.
09:20:22  https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/issues/1749 perhaps.
09:20:39  (Was trying to look up how its challenge difficulty setting worked again.)
09:23:31  Hmm, perhaps. But this is a fairly big gitlab instance (GHC's, the Haskell compiler), so I'm willing to believe that it's just crawled to heavily from random IPs that this is the threshold it ends up with for fresh connections.
09:24:48  The same, btw, potentially goes for that bug report.
09:26:37  On the wiki front we're back to normal levels of "horrible between 5pm-7pm", though the cosmic background radiation is also slightly up at 7 req/s (which translates to 50% CPU utilization).
09:30:28  Of which maybe 3 is Meta (UA meta-externalagent/1.1, IP in their network), which is a _little_ high as a constant load, but, eh.
09:30:59  (It's also not respecting robots.txt.)
09:32:17  "The Meta-ExternalAgent crawler crawls the web for use cases such as training foundation AI models or improving products by indexing content directly."
09:32:17  I'd assume that their excuse is that they do this to show page snippets to real users.
09:32:26  Or not.
09:32:34  They have a different UA for that.
09:32:36  That... yeah that's just bad then
09:32:44  "The Meta-ExternalFetcher crawler may bypass robots.txt because it performs fetches that were requested by the user."
09:33:51  This one's supposed to respect it, but I have a "User-agent: *" "Disallow: /w/" entry in there, and they're still fetching URLs like `/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&from=20260805221124&fromFormatted=22%3A11%2C+5+August+2026&userExpLevel=registered&hidebots=0&hideminor=1&days=14`.
09:33:52  I see. Agent vs. Fetcher. That's easy to mix up. And it's probably an intentional choice too.
09:35:28  Not that it'll matter for User-agent: *
09:37:57  Well, you can't expect a scrappy startup like Meta to be so strict about following all the rules.
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10:13:45  Hi
10:15:47  fizzie: yeah, I've scraped sites where a robots.txt forbids it. my rationalization that I'm scraping a particular website that I know, rather than making a general purpose crawler that can access any website.
10:19:23  b_jonas: you're probably also gonna be polite about it (spacing out requests to a rate a human could muster)
10:20:52  I've done that, but I've also done faster than a human could muster. But I also don't try to download all pairwise diffs when I could instead just download 100 previous versions of a page with a request to Api.php .
10:21:29  Or just the latest version of each page if that's what I need.
10:21:41  yeah the pairwise diff thing is pretty aggrevating
10:22:13  and if I send lots of requests then I at least try to check if I get meaningful results instead of just error responses
10:22:30  Like, mediawikis are quite common, the diffs are not going to improve your training material, and you still don't have code to weed those requests out? Why
10:23:04  diffs could make sense, just not pairwise diffs between lots of versions
10:23:36  maybe
11:14:50  [[User:Dragoneater67/robots.txt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188264&oldid=188236 * Dragoneater67 * (+325) categorize
11:26:06  [[User:Dragoneater67/robots.txt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188265&oldid=188264 * Dragoneater67 * (-8) 
11:26:25  [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Dragoneater67 *  moved [[User:Dragoneater67/robots.txt]] to [[Robots.txt]]
11:26:25  [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Dragoneater67 *  moved [[User talk:Dragoneater67/robots.txt]] to [[Talk:Robots.txt]]
11:27:00  [[User:Dragoneater67]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188270&oldid=188121 * Dragoneater67 * (-35) 
12:04:41  [[User talk:Tommyaweosme]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188271&oldid=177486 * Cordership * (+8) /* collab? */
12:16:18  [[Simpl]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188272&oldid=188096 * Cordership * (+353) /* Examples */
12:16:44  TBH, I haven't checked if they're actually doing all pairs (that would require enumerating over the various radio button choices), vs. just comparing each revision to the current and immediately preceding one (which have direct "cur" and "prev" hyperlinks on the `action=history` page).
12:20:05  In other news, I unexempted meta-externalagent (not sure why I had it exempted to begin with) from the expensive-pages policy, and CPU usage dropped from 50% to 20%.
12:22:32  [[A+B Problem]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188273&oldid=188042 * ViktorChampion * (+40) 
12:29:03  [[Factorial]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188274&oldid=185202 * ViktorChampion * (+76) 
12:29:31  [[Factorial]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188275&oldid=188274 * ViktorChampion * (+0) 
12:30:23  [[FizzBuzz]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188276&oldid=187629 * ViktorChampion * (+360) 
12:33:41  [[Calculator (program form)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188277&oldid=182928 * ViktorChampion * (+606) 
12:34:01  [[Calculator (program form)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188278&oldid=188277 * ViktorChampion * (+1) 
12:54:14  [[User:ViktorChampion]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188279&oldid=188247 * ViktorChampion * (+4) 
13:17:31  how do I put my language in the esolangs wiki
13:20:59  [[Gravity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188280&oldid=103631 * None1 * (+116) 
13:21:28  Assuming you've (got an account and are) logged in, the easiest way is probably using the search box for the title you want, and assuming it doesn't already exist, it should offer an option to create a page by that title.
13:27:02  [[CRAZYLANG]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188281&oldid=188251 * GraysonLaux * (+120) 
13:36:17  [[User talk:Win7HE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188282&oldid=147892 * None1 * (+439) I've deleted your `.github/workflows/static.yml` file on [[IEO]]
13:39:35  [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * Memesmith67 *  New user account
13:39:48  [[User talk:Win7HE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188283&oldid=188282 * None1 * (+11) 
13:46:46  its too difficult to make an account on the wiki I give up
13:48:18  No worries. Is there a website with details about your language?
14:08:11   lisbeths: if you want a wiki account, you can probably ask fizzie to give you one. but also if you have a description of an interesting esoteric language outside the wiki then you can link it here in IRC and we might edit the wiki to link to it.
14:09:28  fizzie: oh, so they might only be following the "cur" and "prev" links? that'd be much better. I had thought we knew that they did a lot of pairwise diffs on one of the large pages like Introduce yourself, which is why ais523 has hidden its old revisions at one point
14:09:47  well
14:10:01  i dont have anyone who has written about my language
14:10:10  it is called common spungus
14:10:27  lisbeths: Oh, also, what steps did you take to try to create an account? Account creation was working only a few days ago, but maybe it's broken right now; we'll only know if you share more details.
14:11:00  well I had claude solve the befunge prompt. I had to use sonnet and not haiku
14:11:20  and then I went to the page to add my introduction
14:11:42  and the syntax format of those entries is impossible for my braincells to learn
14:11:58  getting all the diffs between adjacent revisions would not be too excessive if they don't know how to use the api.php – or are prepared for wikis like Wikia that don't support that. and also downloading diffs from each revision to current seems unnecessary, but that only triples the traffic compared to only adjacent so it's probably not a big deal.
14:16:42  behold - the common spungus programming lanuage https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pqYEbhYO
14:16:55  also included: advanced spungus
14:18:40  not much is written about this language or how it works
14:31:44  Yeah, Claude can't really do anything. Genuinely funny that the Befunge prompt wasn't as hard as MW markup.
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14:42:50  is this a shell script using awk to transform a spungus script into sh script?
14:44:31  b_jonas: They certainly did a lot of diffs on that page, but it's a page with a lot of revisions to begin with, so even just the directly linked diffs is a lot, especially since you get a new set of URLs every time there's a new edit (since all the "cur" URLs change). Anyway, it's possible they're doing all pairs too, I just meant I've not actually systematically looked at the logs to confirm
14:44:33  that.
14:44:38  IIRC in the early days they started this incessant crawling they were also requesting every individual URL like 20 times. Not sure if that's still going on.
14:45:21  I had Gemini solve the CAPTCHA (as an experiment), but I don't remember if that was Flash or Pro.
14:45:58  [[Chicken]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188284&oldid=188192 * None1 * (+221) /* MiniChicken */
14:53:37  I don't think the require-users-to-introduce-themselves check cares all that much about proper formatting of the entry, though I think it does check that whatever you're adding is at the bottom of the page.
14:54:46  But you can probably just write anything as long as it's a new paragraph at the bottom of the "Introductions" section, and if someone cares enough they can clean it up afterwards.
14:56:26  (The attempted common spungus edit text is also fully captured in the filter log if someone wants to document it on your behalf, but that still wouldn't let you edit it afterwards.)
15:00:47  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188285&oldid=169061 * None1 * (+69) /* Examples */
15:03:33  [[ArrowPrint]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188286&oldid=188263 * ViktorChampion * (-52) 
15:06:30  [[Talk:Meow (None1)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=188287 * None1 * (+339) Created page with "Got interested in this again. I'll write a documentation for it. --~~~~"
15:11:00  so the righthand sh in common spungus is just go evaluate sh
15:11:19  the lefthand sh is to on the fly write a compiler
15:11:37  thus the syntax of common spungus is flexible at runtime
15:18:29  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188288&oldid=188285 * None1 * (+43) 
15:19:01  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188289&oldid=188288 * None1 * (-7511) /* Interpreter */  Fix bug
15:41:31  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188290&oldid=188289 * None1 * (+1805) 
15:42:57  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188291&oldid=188290 * None1 * (+47) 
15:43:15  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188292&oldid=188291 * None1 * (+25) 
15:44:04  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188293&oldid=188292 * None1 * (+75) /* I/O */
15:45:09  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188294&oldid=188293 * None1 * (+1) /* Loops */
15:47:45  [[Meow (None1)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188295&oldid=188294 * None1 * (-3) 
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16:27:57  [[User:Miui/Drafts/Fuse Theory(Esoteric Guage Theory)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=188297 * Miui * (+237) Created page with "::Please remember all my writing is purely fictional/theoretical and most likely grossly incorrect. Fuse theory is an approach of gauge theory that seeks to provide a computational framework for the group action of topological dif
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16:30:10  [[User:Miui/Drafts/Fuse Theory(Esoteric Guage Theory)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188299&oldid=188297 * Miui * (+98) add Non-Abelian fusion, shrinking, and quantum dimensions of Abelian gauge fluxes Zhi-Feng Zhang1, Qing-Rui Wang 2,*, and Peng Ye 1,
16:31:03  [[A Painter Ant]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188300&oldid=185200 * Rainwave * (+1112) Added computational class. A Painter Ant is Turing complete!
16:33:40  [[A Painter Ant]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188301&oldid=188300 * Rainwave * (+6) Clarified that we extend the tape's boundaries before each TEM instruction, not before each TEM cycle.
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16:38:40  [[A Painter Ant]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188302&oldid=188301 * Rainwave * (-1) Err, grammar mistakes as always
16:51:21  [[User talk:Cordership]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188303&oldid=187965 * Hotcrystal0 * (+424) /* Collab? */ new section
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17:38:48  [[User:Rainwave]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188304&oldid=187528 * Rainwave * (+184) Make the page look better better in general.
18:08:14  [[Talk:Robots.txt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188305&oldid=188268 * Dragoneater67 * (+316) 
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18:43:03  [[Main Page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188308&oldid=188306 * Aadenboy * (-3) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/188306|188306]] by [[Special:Contributions/ViktorChampion|ViktorChampion]] ([[User talk:ViktorChampion|talk]])
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19:08:37  [[Common spungus]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=188309 * Aadenboy * (+1163) create page on behalf of lisbeths on IRC; https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2026-08.html#lIp
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19:09:36  morning
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19:47:18  [[Robots.txt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188311&oldid=188266 * Yayimhere2(school) * (+140) /* Execution */
19:51:46  [[User:Yayimhere]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188312&oldid=187089 * Yayimhere2(school) * (+103) /* esolangs */
19:52:19  ecu
19:52:20  -e
20:03:24  [[The Exasperation Machine]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=188313 * Rainwave * (+9961) New language!
20:04:59  [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188314&oldid=188152 * Rainwave * (+31) Added The Exasperation Machine
20:24:15  [[User:Rainwave]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188315&oldid=188304 * Rainwave * (+38) Added The Exasperation Machine
20:35:36  [[-]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188316&oldid=113877 * Hotcrystal0 * (-2) Style cleanup
20:36:09  [[-]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188317&oldid=188316 * Hotcrystal0 * (-35) 
20:36:19  [[-]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188318&oldid=188317 * Hotcrystal0 * (+4) 
20:41:13  [[User talk:PkmnQ]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188319&oldid=166821 * Hotcrystal0 * (+264) 
20:41:40  [[Python but it's trash]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188320&oldid=184267 * Hotcrystal0 * (-2) 
20:47:44  [[I/D machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188321&oldid=148415 * Jan jelo * (-55) /* Python */
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20:49:36  I need assistance to post my esoteric language: common_spungus
20:49:56  i have created me account but it wants me to type an intro and the format is very alien to me
20:59:49  lisbeths: you just need to give a brief introduction about yourself on the bottom of [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]], something like "hello, I am so and so [...] ~~~~"
21:00:08  probably mention your esolang as well
21:00:08  There is not really much to it. You click on the edit button next to the "Introductions" section, and add a paragraph at the end (separated by one blank line from what was there before), and at the end of your paragraph write ~~~~ (the ~ symbol, four times), which will be automatically replaced by your user name when you save the edit.
21:00:27  hah, answered at the same time
21:02:08  You were first, but I'd written most of that and didn't want it to go to waste.
21:02:39  oh
21:02:46  I'm not even sure the signature is checked, so it's quite possible it would be sufficient to just add *any* text to the page (as long as it's a new paragraph at the end).
21:04:53  it seems like the page is already live https://esolangs.org/wiki/Common_spungus
21:05:13  but I NeVeR introduced myself he he he he he.....
21:06:06  That's because Aadenboy went and created it, it seems.
21:06:25  You'll still need to do the introduction thing if you want to edit it, though.
21:07:17  a picture of a spungus https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zqhntb1l/6909.jpg
21:23:27  That's not suitable for the wiki, being AI-generated. Only stuff in the public domain is allowed; either you author it and release it, or somebody else authored it and they said it was okay.
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22:09:57  [[DCL]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188322&oldid=187981 * Representativeofpeace * (+1039) 
22:13:16  huh
22:13:31  well common spungus isnt public domain its gpl2
22:13:48  and ive seen other languages on there that arent public domain
22:14:16  Anything in esolang wiki is required to be public domain, but I think it is acceptable to link to external files (such as implementations) which have other licenses such as GPL2
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22:18:27  well my language isnt public domain
22:18:39  so by your own rules it can not be on the wiki
22:19:00  here is a public domain drawing of a spungus https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jYNAMSpi/6910.jpg
22:20:01  a description of the esolang can be on the wiki so long as it is public domain, independent of if the language source itself is in the public domain
22:20:38  so like
22:20:53  I posted my gpl2 implementation of common spungus
22:21:12  the wiki can't host it, but it can describe it
22:21:33  thats what im saying, you gotta take common spungus down off of there
22:24:45  [[Common spungus]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188323&oldid=188309 * Aadenboy * (-848) remove source
22:58:21  i have decided to leave common spungus as gpl2 on the wiki and make no attempt to fix it
22:58:44  this has been a hard decision to make, but it benefits me the greatest out of the options at hand
23:05:24  aadenboy fixed it for you.
23:05:51  [[User:Aadenboy]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188324&oldid=187346 * Aadenboy * (-41) 
23:20:27  [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Aadenboy *  moved [[Calculator (program form)]] to [[4-function calculator]]: rename with the possibility of other calculators; it would be likely that this could be renamed to a more generic count since a few examples use four, but I'm not worried about that
23:22:28  [[4-function calculator]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188327&oldid=188325 * Aadenboy * (+15) wording
23:24:42  [[Popular problem]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188328&oldid=181082 * Aadenboy * (-15) 
23:53:58  [[Lost And Found: Kingdom of Hangul]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188329&oldid=187067 * Miui * (+67) link Aheui
23:57:54  [[Choropleth]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=188330&oldid=186648 * Miui * (+80) link exploration page
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