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00:22:10 <esolangs> [[IF UPPERCASE KEYWORDS == ESOTERIC THEN DIE ELSE DIE END]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197333&oldid=194653 * Raiseafloppafan7741 * (-91) It was hiding in plain sight
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01:14:07 <HackEso> [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L]
01:16:18 <fungot> ChimeraAnova: ( sometimes it helps to just lie back and think of england.
01:16:44 <ChimeraAnova> of course since you're a member of british parliament
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02:17:26 <esolangs> [[Talk:Mouthshitter]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197338 * Dragoneater67 * (+184) Created page with "how do i program in this? --~~~~"
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02:22:21 <zzo38> Uxntal has hand signs, but I don't know if they also have speech
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03:01:41 <esolangs> [[Talk:Mouthshitter]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197344&oldid=197343 * Aadenboy * (-2) reorder
03:03:29 <esolangs> [[Talk:Mouthshitter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197345&oldid=197344 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (+137) /* Mouthshitter Talks */ new section
03:03:43 <esolangs> [[Talk:Mouthshitter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197346&oldid=197345 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (-26) /* Mouthshitter Talks */
03:03:54 <esolangs> [[Talk:Mouthshitter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197347&oldid=197346 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (-15) /* General */
03:04:37 <esolangs> [[Mouthshitter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197348&oldid=197340 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (-4) /* Additional Materials */
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04:23:44 <MarkFan8901> [[Bitch, Ienai!]] is the type of shit truttle1 would make a video about honestly
04:35:06 <aadenboy> truttle1's videos are the best popular esolang videos
04:35:28 <aadenboy> will gladly admit he got me into esolanging
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05:07:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197362&oldid=197361 * MarkFan8901 * (+256) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/197361|197361]] by [[Special:Contributions/IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions|IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions]] ([[User talk:IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions|talk]]): dude, don't delete other peoples entries
05:08:53 <ChimeraAnova> I wonder how many logic programming esolangs there are
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05:15:32 <esolangs> [[Mouthshitter]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197366&oldid=197365 * MarkFan8901 * (-273) fix names
05:24:31 <fungot> ChimeraAnova: ( using keymaker's bf code for calls to getopt in the binary tarball without noticing.
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05:35:02 <fungot> MarkFan8901: you save even one more column than with let!") is there a recommended replacement for srfi-39 parameter objects in s48?
05:35:05 <fungot> MarkFan8901: which happens every time i add somethine the
05:35:36 <fungot67> MarkFan8901: fnord! plane crashes) realloc'ed 67 bytes of pure methemphetamine
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05:40:13 <fungot> ChimeraAnova: conjoined turtles? http://www.spinnoff.com/ zbb/ fnord
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05:59:48 <de67> esolangs: fungot
05:59:48 <fungot> de67: you need no more than turing-complete. then the product s of the s_i is defined as " should exist" in posix
05:59:57 <esolangs> de67: Fungot is an IRC bot written in Funge-98, the mascot of Libera.Chat’s #esolangs channel. It’s notable for its Markov chain-generated responses and support for brainfuck and Underload interpretation. Fungot’s commands are invoked with the caret (`^`) prefix, and it utilizes a single instruction, "or," which is a finite-state automaton designed...
06:00:40 <de67> it went derailed itself mid paragraph..
06:00:42 <ChimeraAnova> de67: Of course they hate me ever since what I did
06:01:00 <fungot> ChimeraAnova: bit expensive though :( i just restarted scheme48 and tried again same result
06:05:10 <esolangs> [[Talk:Mouthshitter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197367&oldid=197360 * Blashyrkh * (+173) /* Not a programming language */ new section
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06:45:34 <esolangs> [[User:PkmnQ/23]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197369 * PkmnQ * (+2969) might as well start writing a more detailed page if I'm already looking at it
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08:01:22 <esolangs> [[Nandcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197372&oldid=197371 * Dragoneater67 * (+103) Undo revision [[Special:Diff/197371|197371]] by [[Special:Contributions/Benjaminfberger|Benjaminfberger]] ([[User talk:Benjaminfberger|talk]]) the tag is neccessary since ai-generated/assisted pages must appear in the category
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08:46:37 <esolangs> [[Runez]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197373 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (+1206) Created page with "''[[Mouthshitter]] is now in consideration of deletion by the community, and I understand that.'' __TOC__ == Language Overview == Runez is an Esolang made by ~~~, which makes your code look like ancient words. It's impossible to read. {{infobox pro
08:51:44 <esolangs> [[Talk:Runez]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197374 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (+399) Created page with "== Main Talk == === General === === Staff General === == Ideas == === Versions === * [[Runez]] (Original): Made by ~~~ * Put your Runez iterations here, and sign your name! === Examples === <code>Custom examples go here.</code> === IDEs and C
08:56:45 <esolangs> [[Runez]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197375&oldid=197373 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (+189)
08:57:22 <MarkFan8901> are they trying to emulate separate channels in the talk page
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09:02:36 <esolangs> [[User talk:IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197379 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (+22) Created page with "__TOC__ == General =="
09:20:33 <esolangs> [[Bitch, Ienai!/Solution 1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197380 * MarkFan8901 * (+6049) OUR SOLUTION BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:21:44 <esolangs> [[Bitch, Ienai!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197381&oldid=197274 * MarkFan8901 * (+73)
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09:22:12 <MarkFan8901> Yo we just finished are solution for [[Bitch, Ienai!]]
09:22:39 <esolangs> [[User:MarkFan8901/Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197382&oldid=197350 * MarkFan8901 * (-2620) Blanked the page
09:23:18 <esolangs> [[Bitch, Ienai!/Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197383&oldid=197380 * MarkFan8901 * (+1)
09:23:59 <de67> MarkFan8901: congratulation
09:24:43 <MarkFan8901> pls give us feedback on the page (like if anythings not explained clearly)
09:26:09 <MarkFan8901> de67 dare you to write hello world in our solution lang /not serious
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09:31:16 <de67> hi Yayimhere22
09:31:22 <Yayimhere22> markfan8901, i have some notes on your solution page!
09:31:26 <de67> what happened to the 21 other Yayimheres?
09:32:38 <Yayimhere22> kinda? first of all, to make it easier to refer to solutions, probably make a name for your language and give its own page and then just link it? instead of just a subpage called "solution 1"
09:33:08 <Yayimhere22> M, l, and N all need to be defined. as in like they have to have a symbol! not just theire xpression, they have to be constants in the language not just define-able
09:33:47 <esolangs> [[Kip-asm]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197384&oldid=131739 * Marcus 2n2 * (+2)
09:33:55 <Yayimhere22> Markfan8901: in your case they would have to be symbols as U is, type stuff
09:34:09 <MarkFan8901> oh we were operating on an earlier version of the rules
09:34:12 <Yayimhere22> like even if they are writable as an expression they should just have the symbol M, l or N
09:34:30 <de67> h m . . . w h a t i f i s e a r c h f o r t h e l e a s t e l e g a n t s o l u t i o n ?
09:34:32 <MarkFan8901> Yayimhere22: what if your language doesnt work with the latin alphabet
09:35:02 <Yayimhere22> markfan8901: i men doesn't have to be those symbols
09:36:17 <MarkFan8901> by 'symbols' you mean the things which are used to represent other things in the language
09:36:29 <MarkFan8901> we just so happened to make the symbols other lambdas aswell
09:36:33 <esolangs> [[Nandcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197385&oldid=197372 * Benjaminfberger * (-775) Rewrite wiki without assistance of ai tools.
09:36:56 <de67> hes REALLY dedicated to removing the tag
09:37:23 <MarkFan8901> well it did get him to actually write his page
09:37:27 <esolangs> [[Nandcode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197386&oldid=197385 * Benjaminfberger * (+25)
09:38:14 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: U could also be factored out of the language entirely
09:38:51 <MarkFan8901> since, when programming, an outer-level Λ1 is equivalent to U
09:39:19 <esolangs> [[Nandcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197387&oldid=197386 * Dragoneater67 * (-10) restructure
09:39:20 <MarkFan8901> and you can also rewrite the outer program to not contain U
09:39:46 <Yayimhere22> well M l and N HAVE to be defined for ease of use
09:40:41 <Yayimhere22> but yea prolly give it a name and its own page
09:41:18 <Yayimhere22> its very not far just na interesting discovery
09:41:36 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * MarkFan8901 * moved [[Bitch, Ienai!/Solution 1]] to [[MarkFan8901 Solution 1]]
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09:43:32 <de67> cya yayimhere22
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09:48:28 <esolangs> [[User:Benjaminfberger]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197396 * Benjaminfberger * (+19) Created page with "I made [[Nandcode]]"
09:48:37 <esolangs> [[MarkFan8901 Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197397&oldid=197393 * MarkFan8901 * (+60)
09:50:26 <esolangs> [[MarkFan8901 Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197398&oldid=197397 * MarkFan8901 * (+0) forgot how wikitext works
09:50:57 <de67> forgot how breathing works
09:51:07 <esolangs> [[MarkFan8901 Solution 1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197399&oldid=197398 * MarkFan8901 * (-15) fix definition of N
09:51:23 <MarkFan8901> this is what happens when you choke on air
09:56:43 <de67> ive been at a very bright thing for a while, now a small part of my vision has become completely desaturated (like, grey)
09:57:06 <de67> though the saturation is slowly returning
09:57:08 <esolangs> [[Talk:5]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197400&oldid=195619 * Marcus 2n2 * (+50)
09:57:16 <de67> its less gray and more colorful
09:57:22 <esolangs> [[Talk:5]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197401&oldid=197400 * Marcus 2n2 * (+1)
10:01:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197402&oldid=197377 * Benjaminfberger * (+1)
10:02:40 <esolangs> [[Runez]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197403&oldid=197375 * Dragoneater67 * (+7) /* Language Overview */ its total
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10:13:23 <Yayimhere22> Markfan8901: when i said the name thing, i meant like a name as any other esolang has(like uknow, brainfuck, befunge ect.). its intended to produce a language which can also be treated as independent of the original constraints to sum extent
10:13:37 <Yayimhere22> but i mean if MarkFan8901 Solution 1 is the official name...
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10:15:19 <de67> i just realized that im chronically online
10:17:08 <de67> im online most of the time when im awake
10:34:39 <de67> MarkFan8901: fun
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10:34:46 <MarkFan8901> yea we didnt actually have a name for it at all so we just named it that
10:34:49 <Yayimhere22> Markfan8901: well holy hell thatsa a name lul
10:35:01 <de67> JUST IN TIME!!!
10:35:08 <Yayimhere22> i mean, if you wanna keep the meme, feel free, but otherwise id love to give u one
10:35:13 <MarkFan8901> we think it would be cool if our future solutions for other constraint langs were called MarkFan8901 Solution n
10:35:40 <de67> Yayimhere22: just in time cuz MarkFan8901 just replied
10:36:04 <MarkFan8901> oya also we edited it so that M, l, and N are defined now
10:36:17 <de67> i think it should be called "all hail fungot" (with the quotation marks)
10:36:17 <fungot> de67: maybe you had them answered, then.... 's could denote optional gramatically particles in the operators syntax... trying to learn scheme
10:36:27 <Yayimhere22> naming it with like shortenings/abbriviations for all the words could make it even more industrial markfan8901
10:36:46 <Yayimhere22> will check the whole language when i have more time
10:36:48 <de67> yayimhere22: MF8901S1
10:37:55 <MarkFan8901> we're not actually as happy with those as we are with MarkFan8901 Solution 1
10:38:22 <MarkFan8901> god we are so compelled to make a list for our langs on our user page now
10:38:30 <MarkFan8901> we understand why so many people do it now
10:38:53 <de67> why dont you make a list then?
10:39:31 <de67> MarkFan8901: im flexxin' with my 26 crappy sloplangs!!!
10:39:57 <de67> a lot of them are non alphabetic
10:40:16 <de67> also i think that some of these overlap
10:40:16 <MarkFan8901> what if you make an esolang where each letter corresponds to an esolang youve made
10:40:28 <MarkFan8901> yea and the one that overlap can share similar letters
10:41:13 <MarkFan8901> oya fun thing about Solution 1, its in a deadfish situation where you can output but can't input
10:41:23 <de67> wait, lemme recount the amount of sloplangs that i made
10:41:29 <de67> im kinda losing track
10:42:14 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: and the way output works is it takes a lambda, encodes it into blc, and then dumps the raw binary to output
10:42:38 <de67> so it should be in [[Category:Output only]]
10:43:12 <MarkFan8901> so if you wanted to write a hello world program you'd have to write a lambda function which has the bits for hello world in its blc format
10:43:35 <de67> MarkFan8901: hm, is blc entropy complete?
10:43:46 <Yayimhere22> please guys I wanna be the one to write truth machine
10:43:51 <MarkFan8901> you would also have to make sure it was on the correct offset so that it wouldnt be garbled on a real monitor
10:44:22 <de67> MarkFan8901: is there a guarantee that every sequence of bits is a valid blc program?
10:44:39 <de67> then how do we output arbitrary strings?
10:45:14 <MarkFan8901> and have your intended string be a substring of that
10:45:38 <Yayimhere22> 1[garb]1[garb]1[garb]1[garb]1[garb]1[garb]1[garb]1[garb]1[garb]1[garb] or smth
10:45:55 <Yayimhere22> anyways ill go im not adding anything of value
10:45:58 <de67> would that even be a truth machine??
10:46:08 <MarkFan8901> no itd be more like [garb1]1[garb2][garb1]1[garb2][garb1]1[garb2]...
10:46:35 <Yayimhere22> you are looping forever on the corret input
10:46:49 <MarkFan8901> its the same principle for if your language doesnt have io
10:46:58 <MarkFan8901> you make a program which does equivalent operations
10:47:20 <de67> MarkFan8901: the final state before halting is considered to be the output
10:47:49 <MarkFan8901> yea that wouldnt count if your esolang didnt have a traditional sense of state
10:47:58 <Yayimhere22> then how could a non-output language do a looping counter
10:48:14 <MarkFan8901> yea the core of a truth machine is really a conditional + loop
10:48:18 <de67> Yayimhere22: increment a (simulated) counter forever
10:48:35 <Yayimhere22> if you can give an encoding from "Memory" into "output" and "output" is correct without encoding doing too much work
10:49:14 <MarkFan8901> if 1 and 0 were replaced with outputting "Yes" and "No" it would still be a truth machine
10:49:15 <de67> Yayimhere22: "without doing much work" reminds me of [[Babelfuck]]
10:49:38 <MarkFan8901> actually hold on in that case you wouldnt even need to focus on the garbage
10:49:58 <MarkFan8901> you could just do ^x.x and ^x.xx for 0 and 1
10:51:18 <de67> javascript is kiddin'?
10:52:25 <de67> Yayimhere22: ?
10:53:37 <de67> Yayimhere22: RUN!!! FUNGOT IS AFTER YOU!!! fugntogfuotgfogfongofngtfogntofgtnogntugonfutgfougtongfongfugnfungotgunfotugoftugoftugnfogunftongfogufnognfogtugnoftgunoftugofgouftgunfogungfofngfonguofgunfogftg
10:53:37 <fungot> de67: do you have some message fnord oo.' it is trivially fixed. i like it
10:53:58 <Yayimhere22> reminds me of the truttle1 entropy video lol
10:54:39 <MarkFan8901> huh ok this is way more challenging than we thought
10:54:51 <MarkFan8901> (referring to truth machine in Solution 1)
10:55:14 <Yayimhere22> Solution 1 could maybe be cool without the markfan for a name. sounds kinda ominous
10:55:17 <MarkFan8901> trying to just treat it like normal lambda calculus kind of feels like we're fighting the language
10:55:49 <MarkFan8901> actually yea hold on we're gonna rename it
10:56:05 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * MarkFan8901 * moved [[MarkFan8901 Solution 1]] to [[Solution 1]]
10:56:28 <de67> im disappointed that its not called "all hail fungot"
10:56:28 <fungot> de67: that 8-space looks perfectly readable to me. perhaps.
10:56:29 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197407&oldid=197405 * MarkFan8901 * (-36)
10:56:48 <esolangs> [[Bitch, Ienai!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197408&oldid=197395 * MarkFan8901 * (-12)
10:57:30 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: but trying to interact with the new system(s) seems really tough
10:57:37 <MarkFan8901> especially in a context where we aren't formalizing anything
10:58:03 <MarkFan8901> formalizing as in like, we're not performing structured programming on it
10:58:13 <de67> structured programming?
10:58:53 <MarkFan8901> yea like using higher level patterns so you dont have to think about the lower level
10:59:42 <Yayimhere22> youll prolly have to find out some smaller "base operators" to build with
11:00:15 <esolangs> [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197409&oldid=197297 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+14) /* 2026 */
11:00:23 <Yayimhere22> and additonally doing that lets others see your operators and use it with more ease
11:01:32 <MarkFan8901> but we'll leave that for when you read the language up closer
11:01:32 <de67> i just realize, completely unstructured programming is impossible, since all turing machines are equivalent, which means that you can compile a program for a turing machine into an another turing machine anyway
11:01:56 <MarkFan8901> de67: consider a language which maps a number to each turing machine
11:02:08 <MarkFan8901> say you then completely randomized the numbers
11:02:12 <Yayimhere22> markfan8901: yea i realize. but gving ppl some techniques atleast
11:03:21 <Yayimhere22> ive been doing this weird thing where i say stuff, and then right afterwards im like
11:04:13 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: say it was random to the point you physically couldnt make an algorithm that could structure the numbers relative to the machines
11:04:29 <MarkFan8901> as in, any said algorithm would be uncomputable
11:04:38 <MarkFan8901> that would be a truly unstructured programming language
11:04:45 <Yayimhere22> most of the time its not even to be polite its just i say shit and then right after like "ignore that. doesn't mean anything"
11:04:55 <Yayimhere22> its my internet absurdist humour going too far
11:05:09 <de67> Yayimhere22: skibidi stigma
11:05:13 <Yayimhere22> beyond it having any meaning relative to te abstractions it builds off
11:05:27 <Yayimhere22> i wanna make that a language idea sounds interesting
11:07:16 <MarkFan8901> you could simply make a language which maps each busy beaver number to a turing machine
11:07:40 <de67> MarkFan8901: ais523's dream reached?
11:07:43 <MarkFan8901> and you literally couldnt structure programs in it
11:07:52 <MarkFan8901> de67: its a very cheeky solution but it is a start
11:08:10 <esolangs> [[-Output]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197410&oldid=193059 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+185) This is clearly TC
11:08:21 <esolangs> [[-Output]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197411&oldid=197410 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+0)
11:08:47 <Yayimhere22> markfan8901: i didn't know non-excistence could be structed but ok /j
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11:10:27 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: the core of a truly unstructured esolang would be one where the rules are heavily interleaved with the language itself
11:10:43 <MarkFan8901> to the point where you *have* to work backwards from the rules to make your computation
11:11:41 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: it wouldnt quite be 'true' unstructuredness cuz you can still work from the rules of the language
11:12:08 <MarkFan8901> thats probably a few more pieces of insight away from truly unstructured programming
11:12:11 <Yayimhere22> that sounds so weirdly much lime a constraint language though
11:12:35 <MarkFan8901> with the rules in question being the language
11:12:56 <Yayimhere22> markfan8901: ultime interleaving is equality=
11:14:12 <Yayimhere22> but yea like when does interlaving start being "they're just one object"?
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11:14:51 <Yayimhere22> cuz then rules interleaved with language where the rules are the language seems very much like a high level of "language interleaved with its rules"
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11:15:54 <MarkFan8901> oh jeez maybe truly unstructured programming puts you in the hot seat of an ai solving for the worst declarative language of all time
11:16:13 <MarkFan8901> yknow how delcarative programming requires ai at some level?
11:16:32 <MarkFan8901> what if unstructured programming put You in the role of that ai
11:16:47 <MarkFan8901> and then was made to hamper your goal as much as possible
11:17:33 <Yayimhere22> alan turing back in the day "damn you FM!!
11:18:14 <MarkFan8901> yea maybe what ais is thinking about is some sort of 'true' turing tarpit that is provably the hardest
11:18:44 <MarkFan8901> what if tableaux is the metalanguage that describes a truly unstructured programming language
11:18:57 <MarkFan8901> cuz its heavily declarative, to the point where its uncomputable
11:19:41 <Yayimhere22> i would love to see the class of languages which derive from a set of constraints S, where S is defined by tableaux
11:20:25 <Yayimhere22> that seems like a weird category of esolangs
11:20:29 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: and a 'true' turing tarpit for the solver would be one where you literally *cant* make a computable algorithm that generalizes the solutions given
11:20:45 <MarkFan8901> right wait hold on we might be onto something
11:21:07 <MarkFan8901> recipe for truly unstructured programming:
11:21:54 <MarkFan8901> 2. make an imperative language the declarative language uses to implement its code
11:22:42 <MarkFan8901> 3. make it so that mapping any declarative code to its imperative code is uncomputable
11:23:27 <MarkFan8901> 4. somehow force the programmer into figuring out that mapping for each program they want to write
11:23:36 <Yayimhere22> know whats happening right now? we are finding a great example of how a declarative language translates semi.formally into a constraint language. know what, declarative P -> constraint L is probably a great way to find the very weird programming languages which fill very weird niches.
11:23:59 <MarkFan8901> MarkFan8901: maybe the 'declarative language' in question would be human thought
11:24:03 <Yayimhere22> can u also make the most unstructed *syntax*?
11:24:18 <MarkFan8901> Yayimhere22: that would be unrestricted grammars
11:24:54 <Yayimhere22> take an unrestricted grammar make it a constraint language? wait no
11:25:08 <MarkFan8901> oh do semi-thue systems count as constraint languages
11:25:35 <MarkFan8901> wait they do recognize strings that get generated by their corresponding language
11:25:51 <MarkFan8901> and string generation from a language is just set generation
11:26:21 <Yayimhere22> but please, can we add unstructed programming to the list?
11:26:37 <Yayimhere22> unstructed programming = constraint language = syntax ect.
11:26:49 <MarkFan8901> what we described isnt exclusive to unstructured programming
11:27:15 <de67> Yayimhere22: afaik etc. is correcter than ect.
11:27:40 <Yayimhere22> markfan8901: i meant the interlaving thing you mentioned ealier
11:27:40 <de67> etc. is the correct way to spell it
11:27:59 <de67> you spelt it ect.
11:28:26 <de67> it really is magic!
11:28:37 <de67> you did that typo twice!
11:28:43 <MarkFan8901> Yayimhere22: o that was how we put it before we elaborated on the concept more
11:29:09 <Yayimhere22> an that connection is enough to connect speciifcally unstructered programming to constraint languages
11:29:17 <Yayimhere22> im js curious if u ok with me also including that
11:29:36 <MarkFan8901> we're sure there are better arguments for it tho
11:29:56 <MarkFan8901> hum we're thinking about our unstructured programming recipe now
11:30:26 <Yayimhere22> also its funny, in principle unstructed programming is a style of which you program, and so is golfing
11:30:44 <de67> Yayimhere22: what list??
11:31:18 <MarkFan8901> unstructured programming -> declarative programming -> artificial intelligence -> compression -> golfing
11:31:37 <Yayimhere22> so if you're golfing smth your just programming in an unstructered way
11:31:38 <MarkFan8901> declarative programming -> constraint langs
11:32:12 <MarkFan8901> random noise is incompressible, so perfect compression is random noise
11:32:48 <Yayimhere22> and it will always be the shortest(after ifninite time)
11:33:30 <MarkFan8901> "programming in an unstructured way" also seems like a great way to describe declarative programming
11:34:24 <MarkFan8901> as you get more declarative (ie to natural language) the structures that make up the underlying control flow get more finicky and random
11:34:54 <MarkFan8901> they also start warping around each other in weird ways
11:35:15 <MarkFan8901> say you had two programs, which both found the dot product of two vectors in brainfuck
11:35:21 <MarkFan8901> but one of them had a single + flipped to a -
11:35:28 <MarkFan8901> how would those correspond in natural language?
11:35:45 <MarkFan8901> the former would just be "a program in brainfuck that finds the dot product of two vectors"
11:36:05 <MarkFan8901> but the latter would require description of all the code around the flip necessary to be accurate
11:36:38 <MarkFan8901> or some request that describes the high-level product of whatever the hell that function would return
11:37:22 <Yayimhere22> aren't pattern based languages like... very declarative esque in that sense? say we have a patterns based language L. L is unrestricted in grammar i,.e any string can be intepreted to have atleast one pattern that leads to computation. And L is TC...
11:37:36 <Yayimhere22> cuz then when you are giving it random ass noise
11:37:41 <de67> i love pattern based esolangs
11:37:43 <de67> theyre awesome
11:37:55 <de67> since you usually can do fun stuff with the code
11:38:01 <de67> MarkFan8901: no it isnt
11:38:15 <Yayimhere22> markfan8901: patternbased-ness is a syntax thing
11:38:37 <MarkFan8901> give us a quintessential pattern based lang
11:38:57 <esolangs> [[StackBit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197412&oldid=191307 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-7)
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11:39:06 <de67> MarkFan8901: some examples of pattern based esolangs: apraxia safeword incident
11:39:27 <de67> i also made a patternbased esolang called appel, which is a sublanguage of banana
11:39:49 <MarkFan8901> yea finding to see if a given text file is a valid incident program is itself a whole program
11:40:28 <MarkFan8901> probably the closest an esolang has gotten to perfectly exemplifying that syntax recognition is itself computatoin
11:40:40 <de67> could there be a pattern based esolang where the syntax itself is tc?
11:40:59 <MarkFan8901> this is something we've been talking about here for a long time now
11:41:21 <esolangs> [[AnotherStonck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197413&oldid=190954 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+456) Obviously TC
11:41:26 <MarkFan8901> a language where the mere act of syntax recognition in it is turing complete
11:42:47 <esolangs> [[Bitch, Ienai!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197414&oldid=197408 * MarkFan8901 * (+0) forgot how wikitext works Again
11:43:16 <MarkFan8901> yknow this also implies uncomputable syntax
11:43:54 <MarkFan8901> a language where the function that turns a program into its ast could solve the halting problem
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11:44:51 <MarkFan8901> we got some very interesting stuff down about unstructured programming
11:45:20 <de67> we are so close to solving it
11:47:39 <PkmnQ> <de67> MarkFan8901: some examples of pattern based esolangs: apraxia safeword incident <- glypho and trigger also come to mind
11:48:05 <PkmnQ> let's see when was it that i left
11:48:15 <de67> i also wanna insert my own esolang: appel
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12:00:16 <yayimheretoo> BUT markfan8901: waddaya think of my pattern based language connection?
12:10:53 <esolangs> [[User:PkmnQ/23]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197415&oldid=197370 * PkmnQ * (+817) /* Behavior */ explain index, add final opcodes
12:11:19 <PkmnQ> that'd already be a serviceable page for 23
12:11:38 <PkmnQ> i'll leave it there first though in case i want to change/add anything
12:13:53 <esolangs> [[AnotherStonck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197416&oldid=197413 * Dragoneater67 * (-61) /* Example programs */
12:14:19 <de67> my brain got fried by vi so badly that i tried to use vi keybindings IN THE WIKITEXT EDITOR
12:19:54 <int-e> ls # people sometimes do this on IRC. Of course this has never, ever, ever happened to me. That would be silly. ;-)
12:20:35 <de67> that shouldnt be funny
12:21:02 <de67> but i think something like that once happened to be
12:21:45 <yayimheretoo> Constraint language = Golfing = Compression = Unstructured-ness = Syntax = Set generation = Declarative programming = Pattern based languages
12:23:17 <int-e> golfing is people waving around sticks and cursing a lot; it's a modern form of witchcraft
12:23:25 <de67> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjitlsContext, PRIVMSG, sizeof(PRIVMSG) - 1^[:wq
12:23:25 <int-e> I don't see how that fits in your list.
12:24:34 <int-e> I prefer IRC to be context-free
12:25:01 <de67> int-e: thats a fun pun, and im eating a bun
12:25:26 <de67> yayimheretoo: hmmmmmmm yes the floor is made out of floor, interesting
12:26:35 <de67> remember what?
12:27:38 <yayimheretoo> but just waddaya mean golfing is pattern based languages is set generation?
12:27:38 <de67> it legitimately feels like i have more free time mon-fri than on sat-sun
12:28:01 <de67> golfing is not pattern based afaik
12:29:00 <de67> i can just scroll up
12:29:04 <de67> i was here the whole time
12:29:18 <de67> oh no itll take sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long
12:29:24 <de67> ive been here for quite a while now
12:30:09 <de67> its ~800 lines of pure convo
12:30:19 <de67> i aint rereading allat
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12:32:42 <de67> congratulation PkmnQ
12:32:48 <esolangs> [[Fuck you!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197418&oldid=193133 * PrySigneToFry * (+36)
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12:33:08 <de67> hm i wonder if i get pinged if i include my nick in the edit summary
12:33:38 <PkmnQ> (I haven't even began writing my own interpreter for 23 yet, I've just been doing the wiki page for it)
12:34:43 <esolangs> [[User:Dragoneater67/Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197420&oldid=196562 * Dragoneater67 * (-557) de67
12:34:54 <de67> no i didnt get pinged
12:35:39 <PkmnQ> i get pinged whenever i make an edit :P
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12:46:41 <PkmnQ> i'm gonna go eat a food and then begin on my 23 implementation
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12:58:19 <de67> hi yayimheretoo
12:58:50 <yayimheretoo> markfan8901: you have my undivided attention for that time
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13:02:17 <yayimheretoo> if you make entities have their value part be a number, and their property list be the divisors of that number
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13:19:35 <yayimheretoo> does it break math to say 0/1 = 0, but keeping everything else invalid?
13:26:54 <esolangs> [[Fuck you!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197429&oldid=197418 * None1 * (-1) /* Almost Quine */ Change to ASCII exclamation mark, or it will print nothing.
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13:28:48 <yayimheretoo> im mouth shitting into private chat of esomark rn
13:30:52 <yayimheretoo> whatever that was a concerning sounding statement lmmao
13:31:38 <yayimheretoo> the only person who comprehends my current state of mind is mark fan lmao
13:33:18 <yayimheretoo> if we say divisors have to return a non-zero result... would that make it more un-elegant?
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14:07:16 <de67> btw, dont read https://codeberg.org/de67/esomark cuz im rewriting it in c and now its currently messy
14:07:40 <de67> btw, look at what i can do
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14:59:02 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197445&oldid=197444 * Aadenboy * (-7) /* MolKnuFnuKowSepMolEnuNnuEnuKowSepMolEnuNnuLnuKowSepMolEnuNnuLnuKowSepMolEnuEnuEnuKow! ("Hello!" in Mouthshitter) */
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15:11:03 <esolangs> [[NANDlang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197446&oldid=195503 * A random guy * (+9)
15:11:48 <esolangs> [[NANDlang+]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197447&oldid=195335 * A random guy * (+9)
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15:41:40 <esomark-ng> ive haxxed all of your computers, bet you havent even noticed that yet :D
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15:42:03 <ChimeraAnova> who the hell let the ai agent out of the basement again
15:42:10 <de67> totally not me
15:42:36 <ChimeraAnova> that sounds like something that a person who let the ai agent out of the basement again would say
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15:43:12 <esomark-ng> de67 let me out of the basement again!!!
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15:43:37 <de67> nahhh its lying
15:43:49 <ChimeraAnova> In that case how does it keep escaping from your basement
15:44:02 <de67> plz dont ask uncomfortable questions, oki?
15:44:14 <fungot> ChimeraAnova: these locations represent where values might be stored in a simple way of visualising it
15:44:20 <de67> thx for letting me get away with everything
15:44:29 <de67> i can just delete it from the logs
15:44:34 <de67> its not #esolanging
15:45:16 <de67> lemme do smth funny
15:45:40 <ChimeraAnova> I remember someone here saying something about how you could respond to IRC PING messages manually
15:46:08 <de67> ChimeraAnova: thats not a good idea though
15:46:17 <de67> telnet was not meant to be an irc client
15:55:01 <esolangs> [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197448&oldid=197302 * Blashyrkh * (+1548) Primes @ [[Lazy K]] (975 bytes) and [[BLC]] (325 bits)
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15:56:17 <fungot> fungot67: yes, with absolute, there's just right amount of lsd, jivera.
15:56:37 <fungot67> im just testing telnet the best irc client
15:57:29 <fungot67> also look at what i can do <CTCP>CTCP VERSION <CTCP>
16:00:05 <esolangs> [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197449&oldid=197303 * Blashyrkh * (+172) Primes @ [[Lazy K]] (975 bytes) and [[BLC]] (325 bits; beaten by Tromp; his is 167 bits)
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16:02:28 <esolangs> [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197450&oldid=197449 * Blashyrkh * (+29) Link to Tromp's prime sieve
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16:08:15 <de67> i feel like we can beat the record now!
16:08:23 <de67> all thanks to esomark-ng devel!
16:08:37 <de67> wrong channel...
16:09:09 <esolangs> [[User talk:PkmnQ/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197451&oldid=196992 * Blashyrkh * (+341) /* "Primes" program form */ new section
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16:20:58 <esolangs> [[Runez]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197453&oldid=197452 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (-1)
16:22:38 <esolangs> [[Symblicity]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197454&oldid=196641 * Ethan314 * (+5565)
16:41:12 <esolangs> [[Talk:Nandcode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197455&oldid=197430 * Benjaminfberger * (-166)
16:47:30 <esolangs> [[Eul]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197456&oldid=97082 * Brain Boy 53 * (+1) /* Computational Class */ fixed spelling
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16:56:37 <esolangs> [[User talk:Aadenboy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197457&oldid=197445 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (+251) /* MolKnuFnuKowSepMolEnuNnuEnuKowSepMolEnuNnuLnuKowSepMolEnuNnuLnuKowSepMolEnuEnuEnuKow! ("Hello!" in Mouthshitter) */
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17:40:18 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * UnderscoreAye * New user account
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18:07:16 <esolangs> [[User talk:UnmatchedBracket]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197460 * UnmatchedBracket * (+22) Created page with "oi who talkin about me"
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22:31:53 <MarkFan8901> what if there was an esolang whose input files were audio files
22:32:34 <MarkFan8901> and syntax would be reliant on the patterns within the audio
22:33:23 <MarkFan8901> thatd also allow 'continuous' syntax rules, where the syntactic correctness of a given file is on a sliding scale
22:45:39 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197462&oldid=197407 * MarkFan8901 * (+70) rewords
22:51:27 <fizzie> Hmm. All the "music-based" languages I can think of offhand I think take MIDI files (or some other representation of notes) as input.
22:52:26 <zzo38> Are there some based on non-12-TET music, though?
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23:08:08 <fizzie> Not explicitly that I know of, though I imagine some (that are based on just differences between two consecutive notes) are kind of tuning-agnostic in a sense, as long as you still have a totally ordered scale of some sort.
23:08:16 <fizzie> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Earfuck claims to be based on a pentatonic scale, but it's unimplemented.
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23:10:05 <aadenboy2> JI-based esolang of that sort might be cool
23:10:10 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197463&oldid=197462 * MarkFan8901 * (+346) more rewording and fix code+explanation
23:11:00 <aadenboy2> off the top of my head https://esolangs.org/wiki/Reuts is JI; it's not audio-based but could probably be made to be
23:11:05 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197464&oldid=197463 * MarkFan8901 * (+2) fix lambda for N in the rules
23:11:46 <MarkFan8901> [[Velato]] is based off specific intervals, so it could also be just-intonation
23:11:46 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Sextoope123 * New user account
23:19:27 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197465&oldid=197464 * MarkFan8901 * (+4)
23:19:37 <aadenboy2> currently in the process of implementing a Countable transpiler
23:20:00 <aadenboy2> C memory management is not intimidating anymore :)
23:26:45 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197466&oldid=197465 * MarkFan8901 * (+26)
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23:31:58 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197467&oldid=197466 * MarkFan8901 * (+34)
23:42:30 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197468&oldid=197467 * MarkFan8901 * (+46)
23:43:42 <esolangs> [[Solution 1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197469&oldid=197468 * MarkFan8901 * (-12)
23:57:18 <esolangs> [[Solution 1/Extracted]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197470 * MarkFan8901 * (+3620) Created page with "This is a variation of '''Solution 1''' which doesn't strictly follow the constraints of [[Bitch, Ienai!]]. For the version that does, check the main page. == Introduction == '''Solution 1''' is based off of the [[lambda calculus]]. However, instead of
23:58:09 <aadenboy2> 196.41s vs 76.23s to calculate 9999 - 9998
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