00:00:04 we think perhaps assigning some (relatively) rigid meaning to words and fitting them into those nodes would work 00:00:11 ...actually that has us thinking 00:00:31 if they were rigid enough it would become imperative 00:01:10 but then if you *also* had not-so-rigid words on top of that, you could theoretically write a program both declaratively and imperatively 00:02:57 then you could train an ai to compress imperative programs into their declarative counterparts 00:03:26 and then end up with the rigid definitions of the declarative words 00:04:45 you could then filter programs through it both ways; you can turn an imperative program into a delcarative program for an explanation of what it does, and vice versa for code generation from natural language 00:05:46 hm, this sounds like a graph rewriting problem 00:06:21 though its not as simple; the language would have to have some sort of non-linear control over how their rewriting rules work 00:07:36 oh an issue with that would be if you described an uncomputable problem in natural language 00:08:12 perhaps the ai could also be trained to learn if certain problems are uncomputable 00:13:27 oh that would require the ability to prove things are uncomputable 00:13:47 which means the ability to prove things 00:14:26 it would also have to apply said logic for questions where even constructing the proof of uncomputability is uncomputable 00:21:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:31:48 ..this made us read up on typesafe ai's website 00:33:00 besides the incredibly weird feelings that we have about being right on why ai is being pursued so intensely right now (unrelated to anything we've said in this channel before), jev actually seems to have the same exact principles as what we're going for 00:33:18 except it still relies on natural language and (assumingly) neural networks 00:34:54 our ideas for an ai are like a 'pure' jev, COMPLETELY broken off from any sort of biological features (like neurons or speech) and is purely computational 00:39:59 ah yea it uses the term 'neuro-symbolic ai' in one of the footnotes of its manifesto 00:41:53 [[England is a country in the United Kingdom and its main cultural export is this one stupid esolang. The main reason it exists is to have one of if not the longest name on the esolangs wiki. LOL, deal with it admins.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197576&oldid=183206 * Hotcrystal0 * (+47) 00:42:06 [[England is a country in the United Kingdom and its main cultural export is this one stupid esolang. The main reason it exists is to have one of if not the longest name on the esolangs wiki. LOL, deal with it admins.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197577&oldid=197576 * Hotcrystal0 * (-1) 00:42:17 [[England is a country in the United Kingdom and its main cultural export is this one stupid esolang. The main reason it exists is to have one of if not the longest name on the esolangs wiki. LOL, deal with it admins.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197578&oldid=197577 * Hotcrystal0 * (+0) 00:43:16 [[English (ASCIIguy)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197579 * Hotcrystal0 * (+229) Redirected page to [[England is a country in the United Kingdom and its main cultural export is this one stupid esolang. The main reason it exists is to have one of if not the longest name on the esolangs wiki. LOL, deal with it admins.]] 00:58:17 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 01:05:08 -!- lisbeths has joined. 01:16:09 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 01:17:41 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 01:18:49 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 02:01:45 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:03:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 02:05:11 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:06:57 [[Talk:Quaternions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197580&oldid=197554 * Cleverxia * (+167) /* "Octonion" or "Octonerion" - proper spelling? */ 02:07:37 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197581&oldid=197551 * Cleverxia * (-8) /* Octonerions */ spelling 02:19:32 -!- de67 has joined. 02:20:09 hi guys 02:26:37 hih 02:27:09 we now have an idea for an esolang 02:27:52 a set of rules for which graphs correspond to others 02:28:42 ok 02:29:05 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 02:29:21 actually hold on lets put it all into one message 02:30:39 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:31:09 ive read the logs btw 02:31:27 o neat 02:31:29 what do you think 02:32:10 : thats a very incomplete description but thats the base idea 02:32:15 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 02:32:25 perhaps we'll elaborate in a user subpage 02:32:48 is that graph rewriting? 02:33:04 yes, kind of 02:33:13 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:33:36 graph rewriting is what the solver uses to make the control flow defined by the correspondences 02:35:50 in other words, the solver finds a set of graph rewriting rules that follow the correspondences correctly 02:36:07 ofc you can solve that trivially by directly rewriting each graph into the other 02:36:22 but the interesting part happens when you enforce minimal rewriting rules 02:37:33 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Client Quit). 02:37:52 Lord_of_Life cant decide if they like this channel or not 02:41:08 hm 02:41:14 maybe graph rewriting is the wrong strategy here 02:41:37 cuz we keep thinking of commands that would be useful that couldnt be implemented efficiently just by rewriting alone 02:41:37 yes 02:41:43 you need tree rewriting 02:41:51 where each node is a matrix 02:41:57 we have the same suspicion with tree rewriting 02:42:14 a matrix of weights 02:42:19 that decide your fate 02:42:23 wtf..................... 02:42:28 you either die in a nuclear apocalypse 02:42:45 or die from a disease that drives you mad 02:42:56 Harvard Scientist Predicts the Future of AI 02:43:15 lmao 02:45:36 gosh okay so 02:45:47 what we Really need is a few base commands 02:45:52 which can create new commands really easily 02:46:12 but can also destroy commands really easily too 02:46:20 so we need atoms 02:46:21 and some weird third thing which efficiently re-groups commands 02:46:36 perhaps that regrouping could also take care of both creation and deletion 02:46:43 what we mean by 're-grouping' is 02:47:11 say you have some bf program that outputs hello world, right 02:47:22 we scramble it do smth else? 02:47:28 nono 02:47:48 ok 02:48:03 imagine you were giving definitions to groups of those commands 02:48:11 mhm 02:48:27 you could define the groups in multiple ways, with some being more efficeint than others 02:48:44 but theres no obvious way to go from one to the other 02:49:15 thats what re-grouping is for, a way to just edit the tree of definitions really easily 02:49:19 to construct new commands 02:49:23 oh 02:50:10 hold on hm 02:50:31 we might be too focused on trying to implement intelligent behavior 02:50:57 yea, you should make dumb esolangs and then look for intelligence after the fact 02:51:11 thats what i did with 67 machine 02:51:26 it has somewhat nontrivial behaviour 02:51:27 alr making JustinBieberLang rn /j 02:52:00 ive also found an oscillator in it 02:52:07 and made a looping counter 02:52:14 we're looking at it rn 02:52:20 yea this does seem pretty interesting 02:52:32 what happens if there arent enough commands to jump 02:52:37 iirc 676 is the only chaotic program i could find 02:52:44 MarkFan8901: it wraps around 02:52:49 okay okay 02:53:02 lets check what 6666666 does 02:54:47 oscillates between 6666666 and 6766666 02:55:21 67 machine is kinda dumb, i made it during the X-complete wave, i initially wanted to make 67-complete, but then i kinda realized that it would be just an another stupid joke that would contribute nothing, so i made a stupud esolang instead that contributed nothing 02:55:36 MarkFan8901: congratulations, you found an oscillator 02:55:54 any sequences of 6 seem to be an oscillator 02:56:01 except 666 02:56:14 and except 6 02:56:31 wait 66 also has interesting behavior 02:56:56 maybe its just sequences of 6n where n > 6 02:57:19 we notice that the code doesnt have any handling for other characters 02:57:26 like theyre not errors and theyre not pruned 02:57:38 that means they act more like stoppers 02:57:59 actually hold on thats boring 02:58:13 we'll make it so that they just get re-appended to the end of the program 02:58:25 wait that wouldnt really do anything though 02:58:45 OH wait no itd eat the effect of a 6 02:59:14 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 03:00:34 eat? 03:00:58 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 03:01:51 if a non-67 character was the subject of a 6's flip, itd do nothing 03:02:09 that lets you delay its effect 03:03:29 hm 03:09:10 https://bpa.st/G5BA here's our modified source 03:09:35 topped with a custom chaotic program 03:10:50 whats the difference 03:11:11 non-67 characters are handled 03:11:41 how 03:11:56 oh i see 03:12:25 ye 03:13:05 it moves itself to the end 03:13:22 ye (2) 03:13:53 thats cool actually 03:14:28 thank u 03:14:45 perhaps its enough for arbitrary actions at arbitrary points 03:15:30 maybe 03:15:46 its really just a system that produces chaos 03:16:06 only sometimes though 03:18:43 hm 03:22:47 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 03:32:20 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * PeRsOn * New user account 03:38:26 'nother n00b 03:38:46 1m 5022y 03:39:15 1 d1dn7 u53 3n0ugh 13375p34k 03:40:01 1 m34n7 "4n07h32 n008" 03:45:18 4 61627 453 320496 133759347 03:45:40 917 947 03:46:14 917 02 046 13631 03:46:42 (translated: "u didnt use enough leetspeak" "git gud" "git on our level" 03:46:58 also we have a very weird thought rn 03:47:21 yknow how ziscs right? 03:47:47 they work not by a list of commands but by initializing memory 03:48:05 then one thing is done to the memory over and over to achieve computation 03:48:16 here's the thing though 03:48:25 imagine a zisc on a turing machine 03:48:33 ok 03:48:48 it would work by giving the tm a certain starting memory 03:49:28 the problem with that is thats also exactly how you would provide it the source code for any other kind of language 03:49:55 if you think about it, really the only difference is in how we're thinking about it 03:50:26 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197582&oldid=197529 * PeRsOn * (+218) I added myself. 03:51:09 in typical languages, memory would just so happen to be serialized into distinct sections and treated as commands 03:51:10 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197583&oldid=197582 * PeRsOn * (+85) I forgot to add my page. 03:52:10 thats why homoiconic oiscs can be though of as really complicated ziscs 03:52:12 [[User:PeRsOn]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197584 * PeRsOn * (+69) I put a bit about myself. 03:52:22 [[C!]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197585 * PeRsOn * (+1041) C! is a turning complete programming language that is made to simplify C++. 03:52:34 %%Gokgq Gaokr _Gokgq Gaokr Gowks _GRokw aoigu ockt owks ockg aoigu ockrf _? _nkwf owks _nkwf Gocg _mcusi ocuier ocwkVN owksf%% 03:52:40 hi aadengoy 03:52:43 hello 03:52:43 here's the thing though 03:52:48 i saw you join rsolang forum 03:53:00 btw 03:53:01 perchance 03:53:04 whats that gibnerish 03:53:09 secret :P 03:53:15 theres no fundamental difference between a tm being initialized with memory for a zisc and being initialized with a program for interpretation 03:53:39 the gibberish is english, just not latin 03:53:48 [[C!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197586&oldid=197585 * Dragoneater67 * (-69) fix username 03:54:01 the gibberish is what happens when you subtract the concept of latin from the concpet of english, then speak it 03:54:12 big red x emoji......... 03:54:22 ok but thats a cool idea though right 03:54:39 anglish (?) 03:54:45 no 03:54:50 aw 03:54:57 anglish is unfrenchified english 03:54:57 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 03:55:00 yes 03:55:02 that exists 03:55:11 isn't anglish no loan word at all english 03:55:15 yeah 03:55:16 which would include latin 03:55:22 does. english borrow frmo latin 03:55:24 I think it does 03:55:25 yes 03:55:27 ergo 03:55:28 a lot of loan words are frrncnc htohig 03:55:29 vice versa 03:55:31 et cetera 03:55:35 i had a fuckonf srtoke 03:55:41 fucking mobole keybaord 03:55:45 mobole 03:55:46 oj 03:55:48 frrncnc 03:55:50 oj 03:55:51 i.spelt one word cotrrctc 03:55:53 new esolangs guys 03:55:57 cotrrctc 03:56:01 I should probably mention Paste my gibberish into https://miscellaniumiscellanium.tumblr.com/- to see how it is meant to look 03:56:07 the textual representation does Not give it justice. 03:56:30 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 03:56:34 im gonna fix [[C!]] 03:56:44 aadenboy: how the hell did you do this in tumblr 03:57:00 tumblr blog themes allow straight up html 03:57:07 which includes script tags :] 03:57:26 neat. 03:58:12 can't figure out how to use the page though 03:59:00 text put into the textbox is parsed, in particular use a pair of %% strings to render the font, e.g %%bwkr%% 03:59:09 MarkFan8901: this makes us think 03:59:41 if you interpreted a zisc as actually a programming language where the tape corresponds to commands of some sort 03:59:47 what would the commands even be? 03:59:57 the semantics themselves would be self-modifying 04:00:02 Even if English is Germanic language still is Indo-European languages and some very older words are from Latin and other languages, even before the French, I think. But, you can still be English without a lot of French and other words and mostly only English words, although some are no longer common now 04:01:13 MarkFan8901: or, the commands would exist on some level higher than direct correspondence 04:01:53 what we're thinking of is that the memory would be some form of compression over a clean starting set of commands 04:02:01 actually no lets reword that 04:02:20 what we're thinking of is that the memory would be a compressed version of some program written with explicit commands 04:03:51 oh shit hold on 04:04:01 maybe finding those commands would be uncomputable 04:04:22 either the commands or the compression algorithm 04:04:43 because they rely on a turing complete system 04:04:47 [[C!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197587&oldid=197586 * Dragoneater67 * (+205) firmatting pt.1 (this was exahusting) 04:05:00 [[C!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197588&oldid=197587 * Dragoneater67 * (+0) /* Without hitespace */ typo 04:05:47 OH maybe thats what finding the properties of a given program is 04:06:21 there should be a way to tag pages as needing cleanup 04:06:33 where like, compressing/decompressing is property finding 04:07:23 de67: do you use the search and replace function? it is helpful when cleaning up pages like that 04:07:29 and the reason why chaotic sequences are so hard to study is because finding properties in them is just that 04:07:36 nah 04:07:50 little* bit of regex 04:07:55 in other words, the functions which find the properties of chaotic sequences are literally uncomputable 04:08:37 are we making sense 04:08:39 we feel like we might not 04:11:34 [[C!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197589&oldid=197588 * Dragoneater67 * (+269) /* Overview */ use tags 04:12:04 [[Talk:C!]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197590 * Dragoneater67 * (+198) Created page with "the language seems to be underspecified --~~~~" 04:12:34 Since the classical sequent calculus has a symmetry on both sides, it means that continuations can also make functions symmetric in that way. 04:12:57 wha 04:13:06 whats classical sequent calculus 04:13:14 google.it 04:13:21 ok going to google.it 04:13:33 i love how thats an actual link 04:14:35 I mean sequent calculus with classical logic. 04:15:48 [[C!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197591&oldid=197589 * Dragoneater67 * (+128) /* Examples */ cat 04:15:50 See also, Curry-Howard 04:16:04 [[C!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197592&oldid=197591 * Dragoneater67 * (+0) /* Examples */ 04:16:07 -!- PkmnQ has joined. 04:16:19 [[C!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197593&oldid=197592 * Dragoneater67 * (+1) /* Overview */ 04:16:59 goodnightveryish 04:17:11 gn aadenboy 04:17:23 gn 04:17:31 zzo38: ahhhhh 04:17:39 okay we see what you mean now (we think) 04:17:57 actually wait no we dont 04:18:41 does the symmetry in question refer to the compression/decompression of memory into explicit commands 04:20:20 categorizing [[C!]] was so boring 04:21:33 C! just seems like a weirdlang 04:21:59 actually no it is a weirdlang 04:22:09 its literally c++ but with different notation 04:23:42 its a subset of c++ with weird syntax 04:24:20 No, I mean that by exchanging some of the symbols and then you can exchange left side with right side of the turnstile, that it can be made symmetric (except the \ sign that Wikipedia mentions, but I have also seen it without that) 04:25:45 (Wikipedia mentions this symmetry in the article about sequent calculus: "Observe that, if we ignore the non-standard connective \, all rules have mirror companions, except the ones for implication [unless you add a "not implied by" connective].") 04:35:34 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 04:35:42 how does that correspond with our system 04:35:55 (sry we were reading up on the page for sequent calculus) 04:40:52 It is unrelated as far as I know; it is something else that I had mentioned independently (maybe I should have mention such a thing) 04:42:01 ahh 04:42:03 oki oki 04:43:05 MarkFan8901: i wasnt paying attention to anything 04:43:09 lemme reread the logs 04:44:20 ok i think i kinda got it 04:46:09 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 05:14:11 a lot of turing tarpits are somehow related to misnky machines 05:14:13 interesting 05:14:57 itd be fun to have 2d brainfuck with vertical loops using - and _ 05:15:12 hm 05:23:48 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:39:41 -!- de67 has changed nick to {{{{{{{{. 05:39:57 <{{{{{{{{> test 05:40:25 -!- {{{{{{{{ has changed nick to de67. 05:49:27 -!- iovoid has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:49:40 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Ping timeout: 271 seconds). 06:04:20 -!- lisbeths has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 06:28:38 [[C!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197594&oldid=197593 * PeRsOn * (+1449) I added an example of a program. 06:28:39 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 06:28:44 -!- iovoid has joined. 06:33:18 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197595&oldid=197502 * PeRsOn * (+9) Added C! 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It appears to be a deliberate, nonsensical string. Likely a random exchange or a playful joke within the IRC channel. There’s no inherent meaning or connection between “skibiddy” (a slang term for a clumsy or awkward person) and “toilet.” Perhaps just a random collision of words. 07:51:07 esolangs: skibidi toilet 07:51:12 de67: Skibidi Toilet is an esolang created by Mihai Popa, based on Gen Alpha slang. It utilizes Batch commands to print strings and variables. Key commands include "Toilet" for output, "Skibidi" for user input, and "Start Skibidi {x} {expression}" for looping. It’s essentially a simplified Batch interpreter with a unique naming scheme for commands. 07:51:46 [[Tetrahedron]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197622&oldid=197621 * Cleverxia * (+60) /* Truth machine (hopefully) */ notice that the program and data use shared space so semf modifying 07:52:08 esolangs: semf modifying 07:52:12 de67: Semf's "modifying" feature is essentially a sophisticated, iterative, and highly efficient way to perform complex data transformations. It works by repeatedly applying a function to a data structure, updating it in place with each iteration. This avoids creating numerous intermediate copies, making it remarkably fast and memory-friendly, especially... 07:52:12 for tasks like sorting or complex calculations involving mutable data. It’s a core element of Semf’s design. 08:02:32 -!- de67 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:02:32 [[User talk:PeRsOn]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197623&oldid=197608 * PeRsOn * (+46) 08:04:17 -!- de67 has joined. 08:04:58 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 253 seconds). 08:07:31 -!- de67 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:10:24 -!- izaboo has quit (Quit: WeeChat 4.5.1). 08:10:58 -!- de67 has joined. 08:11:32 [[User talk:Cleverxia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197624&oldid=189520 * Cleverxia * (+190) 08:12:56 [[Talk:]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197625&oldid=192308 * PeRsOn * (+228) /* I do not exist. 0 other languages allow me to program. Please help me learn! */ new section 08:13:32 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 08:15:04 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 08:18:58 -!- de67 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:21:15 -!- de67 has joined. 08:21:34 [[Talk:]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197626&oldid=197625 * Dragoneater67 * (+169) /* I do not exist. 0 other languages allow me to program. Please help me learn! */ 08:24:40 [[User talk:Cleverxia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197627&oldid=197624 * Dragoneater67 * (+200) /* idea for languages to golf */ 08:32:24 [[LoopScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197628&oldid=175353 * DockedChutoy * (+349) 08:36:07 [[Endfield]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197629&oldid=174157 * Dragoneater67 * (+147) 08:56:26 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 08:57:02 [[User:DockedChutoy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197630&oldid=193900 * DockedChutoy * (+48) 09:01:52 -!- izabera has joined. 09:02:06 -!- izabera has changed hostmask to izabera@user/meow/izabera. 09:02:24 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 09:08:49 -!- hypha_ has joined. 09:09:46 -!- hypha has quit (Ping timeout: 261 seconds). 09:09:46 -!- hypha_ has changed nick to hypha. 09:14:02 -!- de67 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:21:16 -!- de67 has joined. 09:22:17 ive been thinking of an esolang where the program is a list of programs with their inputs and outputs 09:22:39 -!- izabera has quit (Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3). 09:23:34 and the interpreter takes it and creates a language where all of these programs, when given its respective input, produces its respective output 09:23:58 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 09:27:27 -!- izabera has joined. 09:28:33 [[Entitia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197631&oldid=197552 * Cordership * (-14) 09:29:04 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 09:29:14 -!- izabera has changed hostmask to izabera@user/meow/izabera. 09:30:10 [[Stackfest]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197632&oldid=194228 * Cordership * (+54) /* The additional operations */ 09:30:45 -!- izabera has quit (Client Quit). 09:31:06 -!- izabera has joined. 09:31:10 -!- izabera has changed hostmask to izabera@user/meow/izabera. 09:32:04 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 09:40:56 [[Jormungandr]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197633&oldid=196941 * Typhe681 * (-35) shorter quine 09:44:47 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 09:46:15 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 10:06:51 -!- PkmnQ has joined. 10:20:23 -!- ChimeraAnova has joined. 10:23:45 -!- de67 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:46:14 Hi 11:06:11 -!- de67 has joined. 11:06:14 hi guys 11:06:16 im back 11:09:23 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 11:13:32 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 11:30:09 -!- inhahe has quit (Quit: Bouncer shutting down). 11:41:36 [[Bitch, Ienai!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197634&oldid=197560 * Cordership * (+63) /* Solutions */ 12:01:01 [[ABG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197635&oldid=108610 * Marcus 2n2 * (+43) 12:01:27 [[ABG]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197636&oldid=197635 * Marcus 2n2 * (+35) /* Commands */ 12:03:20 [[ABG]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197637&oldid=197636 * Marcus 2n2 * (-34) /* Commands */ 12:10:27 -!- PkmnQ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:19:50 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197638&oldid=197534 * Cordership * (+9) /* CT interpreter */ 12:20:14 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197639&oldid=197638 * Cordership * (-3) /* CT interpreter */ 12:20:31 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197640&oldid=197639 * Cordership * (+11) /* Syntax */ 12:23:49 -!- PkmnQ has joined. 12:26:34 [[Cryn]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197641 * Vextoly * (+7628) Added Cryn 12:27:00 [[14]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197642&oldid=197569 * Marcus 2n2 * (-34) /* Examples */ 12:27:45 [[Entitia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197643&oldid=197631 * Yayimhere2(school) * (+9) seems very ambiguous / stubby. feel free to fix and then remove. also, prolly easier to understand if its in a format thhats more table like. 12:27:49 [[Cryn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197644&oldid=197641 * Vextoly * (-780) /* Why Cryn is esoteric */ 12:30:13 [[Cryn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197645&oldid=197644 * Vextoly * (-79) 12:39:28 [[Cryn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197646&oldid=197645 * Dragoneater67 * (+29) /* External resources */ im pretty sure the page was written by an llm 12:40:23 -!- ChimeraAnova has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:46:48 [[Talk:Cryn]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197647 * Blashyrkh * (+166) inaccessible external references 12:56:50 [[Cryn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197648&oldid=197646 * Vextoly * (+17) 13:05:28 [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197649&oldid=195466 * None1 * (+101) 13:05:48 [[Runez]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197650&oldid=197453 * IMakeTerribleEsolangDecisions * (+10) 13:11:21 [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197651&oldid=197649 * None1 * (+219) 13:15:33 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197652&oldid=197640 * Cordership * (+145) /* Syntax */ 13:15:59 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197653&oldid=197652 * Cordership * (-94) /* Syntax */ 13:21:02 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197654&oldid=197653 * Cordership * (-279) /* Examples */ 13:29:25 [[Cat program]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197655&oldid=196805 * Cordership * (+7148) 13:30:44 [[StackBit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197656&oldid=197412 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-10) 13:30:52 [[Cat program]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197657&oldid=197655 * Cordership * (+457) 13:31:49 [[Cat program]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197658&oldid=197657 * Cordership * (+61) /* Regards, */ 13:35:05 de67: reminds me of [[a=ab=bc=cd=d!]] 13:35:27 [[Cat program]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197659&oldid=197658 * Cordership * (+132) 13:36:55 -!- CRISPR has joined. 13:36:57 -!- CRISPR has quit 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(+28) /* Python 3 */ 13:50:30 [[User:None1/InDev]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197668&oldid=197651 * None1 * (+576) 13:51:23 [[Deadbird]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197669&oldid=177077 * Cordership * (+89) /* Additions */ 13:51:27 hello 13:51:49 [[Deadbird]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197670&oldid=197669 * Cordership * (-90) 13:52:55 [[Avoid]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197671 * Jack6254 * (+1794) Created page with "'''Avoid''' is an esoteric language created by User:Jack6254 on October 7th, 2026. It is based on the study of combinatorics on words. The subject originated with foundational work published by Axel Thue on square-free words, infinite words, and repetitions in the early 13:53:07 oh 13:53:21 glad to know that this day wasnt totally uneventful 13:54:52 [[Avoid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197672&oldid=197671 * Dragoneater67 * (+16) /* Turing Complete? */ every language must be in [[Category:Languages]] 13:55:22 [[Avoid]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197673&oldid=197672 * Jack6254 * (-9) Grammar correction. 13:55:34 goodbye 13:56:07 cya 13:59:43 [[Avoid]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197674&oldid=197673 * Jack6254 * (-4) Fixed spelling 14:00:37 [[Avoid]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197675&oldid=197674 * Jack6254 * (-25) Removed unnecessary sentence 14:02:36 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Czar Pedro * New user account 14:02:54 the turing completeness proof for [[Ednfield]] is quite boring 14:02:57 [[Avoid]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197676&oldid=197675 * Jack6254 * (-51) Removed unnecessary categories 14:04:22 i think that itd be fun to try to prove that some sort of restricted version of endfield is turing complete 14:04:56 [[Avoid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197677&oldid=197676 * Jack6254 * (+9) 14:06:28 de67: do i hear esoteric subset 14:06:35 maybe???] 14:07:10 basically, [[Endfield]] is bf with unbounded cells, and the - command is useless 14:07:33 it just decrements a random non-0 sell by 3 14:07:42 cell* 14:08:22 but [[Brainfuck minus -]] proves that a subset of brainfuck with unbounded cells and no way to decrement is still turing complete 14:08:34 which makes [[Endfield]] boring 14:09:24 unfortunately I think any turing-complete subset would have to contain ><+[] which is already Turing-complete on its own 14:09:37 + is necessary since otherwise you can't store anything 14:09:43 [ and ] are necessary for looping 14:10:36 but there are other ways to restrict the language 14:10:40 without removing commands 14:10:42 without one of > or < you can only store one counter's worth of data, and if you only have one of them, there's technically a chance - never decrements any of the cells you can't reach again 14:11:01 but if, say, - was made less random, i think you could remove the other one of > or < 14:11:04 for example, [[Brainfuck minus -]] is still turing complete with max loop depth 2 14:20:35 eh I think you have to make Endfield's - not fully random to make it interesting (or at least I don't think it would be interesting if it was fully random) but some similar stuff in the style of "decrement a cell that has nothing to do with where the current pointer is" would be interesting 14:21:33 [[Avoid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197678&oldid=197677 * Jack6254 * (+173) Added long-halting time 14:24:33 [[Avoid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197679&oldid=197678 * PkmnQ * (+28) a few links for good measure 14:35:44 ive also been thinking about [[str]] 14:35:52 though i doubt that its turing complete 14:36:06 since the only way to read data is destructive 14:36:15 (not a promising trait obviously) 14:52:12 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Exe-cutie * New user account 15:00:16 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197680&oldid=197566 * Blashyrkh * (+191) /* 14 */ [[A+B]] @ [[14]] - 101 bytes 15:01:45 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197681&oldid=197567 * Blashyrkh * (+48) [[A+B]] @ [[14]] - 101 bytes 15:03:18 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197682&oldid=197595 * Vextoly * (+11) Added Cryn 15:07:41 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197683&oldid=197680 * Blashyrkh * (+424) [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC]] (148 bits) 15:08:03 [[One Time Cat]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197684&oldid=197667 * Aadenboy * (+34) /* Lua */ golf in [[Lua]] 15:09:10 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197685&oldid=197681 * Blashyrkh * (+52) [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC]] (148 bits) 15:15:52 -!- ajal has joined. 15:17:01 hi ajal 15:18:02 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197686&oldid=197683 * Blashyrkh * (+137) /* 14 */ Shorter [[A+B]] @ [[14]] (101 > 88) 15:19:14 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197687&oldid=197685 * Blashyrkh * (+20) Shorter [[A+B]] @ [[14]] (101 > 88) 15:21:06 that BLC looping counter looks beatable but i'm not adding a BLC row to my table because i don't want to make special bit-exceptions for each of the program forms 15:22:09 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197688&oldid=197686 * Blashyrkh * (+258) /* BLC */ Shorter [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC]] (148 > 140) 15:22:58 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197689&oldid=197687 * Blashyrkh * (+20) Shorter [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC]] (148 > 140) 15:30:55 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197690&oldid=197688 * Blashyrkh * (+554) [[Immutable Brainfuck]] golfed code, including new [[Looping counter]] (62 bytes) 15:33:26 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197691&oldid=197689 * Blashyrkh * (+23) [[Looping counter]] @ [[Immutable Brainfuck]] (62 bytes) 15:38:05 i just realized that any proper control flow in [[GolferNightmare]] requires bit buckets 15:38:06 :D 15:40:54 the reason is that if the first / doesnt skip, then you need to make sure that the second / wont skip too, or else the program wont do what you expect it to do 15:41:21 the most obvious way to do that is to make the second / check a useless cell 15:41:27 which would basically be a bit bucket 16:13:45 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197692&oldid=197690 * Blashyrkh * (+169) /* 14 - Primes */ Shorter Primes @ [[14]] (121 > 120) 16:14:42 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197693&oldid=197691 * Blashyrkh * (+21) Shorter Primes @ [[14]] (121 > 120) 16:15:26 [[14]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197694&oldid=197642 * Blashyrkh * (-1) /* Prime number generator */ 1 byte shorter 16:15:52 alr 16:15:55 bye guys 16:15:55 -!- de67 has quit (Quit: zzz). 16:19:56 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197695&oldid=197692 * Blashyrkh * (+217) /* 14 */ Shorter [[Looping counter]] @ [[14]] (33 > 32) 16:21:14 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197696&oldid=197693 * Blashyrkh * (+37) Shorter [[Looping counter]] @ [[14]] (33 > 32) 16:22:04 [[14]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197697&oldid=197694 * Blashyrkh * (-1) /* Looping counter */ 1 byte shorter 16:25:13 [[User:PeRsOn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197698&oldid=197584 * PeRsOn * (+64) signed my name 16:35:36 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197699&oldid=197695 * Blashyrkh * (+1981) /* 14 */ Shorter [[Quine]] @ [[14]] (1737 > 1713) 16:37:34 cu 16:37:59 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197700&oldid=197696 * Blashyrkh * (+47) Shorter [[Quine]] @ [[14]] (1737 > 1713) 16:40:09 [[14]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197701&oldid=197697 * Blashyrkh * (-24) /* Quine */ Shorter QUINE (1737 > 1713) 16:42:55 -!- Yayimhere22 has joined. 16:54:46 [[Talk:Avoid]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197702 * Jack6254 * (+184) Created page with "If anyone has any lower/upper bounds as to maximum halting times for certain lists B, let me know! ~~~~" 16:55:49 hi. 17:02:02 -!- iamgroot9 has joined. 17:02:06 wassup 17:02:21 iamgroot9 not much it seems 17:02:27 ah 17:02:48 yayimhere22 you working on any esolangs 17:02:59 iamgroot9 not rlly 17:03:01 ah 17:03:04 i have smth to do eventually tho 17:03:13 tell me 17:03:35 [[Avoid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197703&oldid=197679 * Aadenboy * (+0) /* Turing Complete? */ Turing Complete Turing-complete 17:03:54 oh no aadenboy made another language? /j 17:04:27 omg 17:04:41 iamgroot9: solving for a language , like you solve for a variable X 17:05:00 [[User:Aadenboy/randomuserpage]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197704&oldid=196330 * Aadenboy * (+29) Yayimhere22: if only I did... :P 17:05:12 it's because there are like 2 million aadenboys but 1 million of them got killed in the great aadenboy massacre of oct 2026 17:05:33 aadenboy: how dare thy do it as such 17:07:20 oh that's Jack6254's esolang not aadenboy's 17:07:32 great 17:07:33 lol 17:07:38 thats a surprise somehow 17:07:40 but ye 17:08:02 ah 17:08:23 my main question is who's this "Aristotle" because i don't think it's the greek philosopher in this case 17:08:26 considering this language was created literally yesterday 17:08:38 and the greek philosopher over 2000 years ago 17:08:44 hey what if someone made an esolang that's just python but all the characters have to be ASCII art? 17:08:54 that'd be an esolang for sure 17:09:05 and it'd be silly af to program in 17:09:41 a 2d language would be more fitting for that if anything in my opinion 17:11:07 oh yea 17:11:20 but I think it'd still be funny for python 17:12:32 [[Avoid]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197705&oldid=197703 * PkmnQ * (-9) /* Definition */ I think append is clearer? 17:16:06 [[Avoid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197706&oldid=197705 * Jack6254 * (-14) Changed concatenate to append for clarity! 17:18:04 hey PkmnQ do you want to make a "reference-bot" as an irc bot that gives references with the right keywords? 17:18:25 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 17:23:45 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 17:30:39 ok nvm 17:36:11 -!- iamgroot9 has quit (Quit: Client closed). 17:37:30 -!- zzo38 has joined. 17:38:21 -!- Yayimhere22 has quit (Quit: Client closed). 17:45:21 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197707&oldid=197699 * Blashyrkh * (+249) /* Looping counter */ Shorter [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC]] (140 > 97) 17:45:50 yep there it is 17:46:09 or wait 17:46:30 eh whatever 17:46:38 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197708&oldid=197700 * Blashyrkh * (+19) Shorter [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC]] (140 > 97) 17:50:45 -!- PkmnQ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:19:49 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 18:25:07 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197709&oldid=197707 * Blashyrkh * (+478) [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC#BLC8 | BLC8]] (45 bytes) 18:28:26 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197710&oldid=197708 * Blashyrkh * (+124) [[Looping counter]] @ [[BLC#BLC8 | BLC8]] (45 bytes, beaten by PkmnQ) 18:32:13 how many fixed-size integer arithmetic operations are there where some of the arguments or results are signed and others are unsigned? like, I think subtracting two unsigned integers and saturating the result to a signed integer of the same size is used somewhere. less-than comparing a signed integer with an unsigned integer is definitely useful, and there are now functions for it in the C++ standard 18:32:19 library. are there any other useful combination for saturating add/subtract? does anyone multiply a signed integer with an unsigned integer and gets the high word of the result as a signed integer? or take the minimum of a signed integer and an unsigned integer as a signed integer result? anything else? (I don't count the signedness of a shift count.) 18:46:59 [[User:Vextoly]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197711 * Vextoly * (+2) Created page with "yo" 18:47:51 [[User talk:PkmnQ/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197712&oldid=197451 * Blashyrkh * (+251) /* You call 15-bytes BLC8 "Hello, world" trivial? */ new section 18:56:44 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197713&oldid=197709 * Blashyrkh * (+193) /* BLC8 - Looping counter */ Explain the code 18:57:05 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 19:21:30 [[User talk:PkmnQ/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197714&oldid=197712 * Blashyrkh * (+317) /* You call 15-bytes BLC8 "Hello, world" trivial? */ 19:22:07 TI TMS320C64x DSP has instructions for the mixed-sign integer multiplications, so presumably some people must have found them useful. 19:22:12 E.g. MPYSU multiplies a signed 16-bit integer by an unsigned 16-bit integer to produce a signed 32-bit result. 19:22:32 I see 19:22:56 [[Cryn]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197715&oldid=197648 * Vextoly * (+56) /* External resources */ 19:26:26 It often processes audio, and audio samples are often signed 16-bit values, and I guess that way you can scale them with one more bit of precision in the scaler than you would get from an s16 x s16 -> s32 multiplication. 19:41:55 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197716&oldid=197710 * Blashyrkh * (+43) Add [[Recall]] to the table 19:45:05 [[Talk:JUMP]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197717 * PeRsOn * (+60) Created page with "This seems a lot like a turing machine with different steps." 19:54:07 [[Talk:JUMP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197718&oldid=197717 * Blashyrkh * (+211) no, it's not a Turing machine 19:55:11 I see 19:56:07 -!- somefan has joined. 19:57:47 [[C!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197719&oldid=197617 * PeRsOn * (+67) added L command 20:26:46 [[Countable]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197720&oldid=188422 * Aadenboy * (+61) resolve potential ambiguity 20:28:05 [[Lucky 9]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197721 * Vextoly * (+2105) Add Lucky 9 20:28:37 [[Lucky 9]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197722&oldid=197721 * Vextoly * (+4) 20:29:56 [[Lucky 9]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197723&oldid=197722 * Vextoly * (+10) 20:30:46 [[Lucky 9]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197724&oldid=197723 * Vextoly * (-144) 20:53:27 [[User:Hotcrystal0/Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197725&oldid=197568 * Hotcrystal0 * (+303) /* P9+ */ 20:56:03 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197726&oldid=197713 * Blashyrkh * (+184) /* Brainfuck */ [[Looping counter]] @ [[Brainfuck]] (54 bytes) 20:59:08 -!- svm has joined. 20:59:45 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197727&oldid=197716 * Blashyrkh * (+121) [[Looping counter]] @ [[Brainfuck]] (54 bytes, beaten by PkmnQ) 21:02:10 -!- msv has quit (Ping timeout: 259 seconds). 21:09:31 [[User:Hotcrystal0/Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197728&oldid=197725 * Hotcrystal0 * (+245) /* P2-8 */ 21:28:40 -!- somefan has quit (Quit: seeya later). 21:39:43 -!- ChimeraAnova has joined. 22:05:58 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 22:06:55 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 22:21:32 Good evening fungot 22:21:32 ChimeraAnova: why on earth? beats all the species. 22:22:45 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 22:28:03 [[Trmaxion]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197729&oldid=195381 * Miui * (+0) /* Computational class */ corrected typo 22:33:35 -!- izabera has changed nick to bellanox. 22:44:00 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 22:46:09 [[Talk:C!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197730&oldid=197606 * PeRsOn * (+287) /* Implementation request */ new section 22:47:02 [[Talk:C!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197731&oldid=197730 * PeRsOn * (+73) /* Turing-complete? */ 22:48:18 [[C!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197732&oldid=197719 * PeRsOn * (+23) /* Slime fighting game */ added inspiration 22:58:13 [[Joe]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=197733 * PeRsOn * (+828) Created page with "=JOE= Joe is the only Joe-complete program because it emulates a Joe program. Joe is strictly input - output, and runs the input as a Joe program, modifies the response, and outputs it. The deepest Joe program inside is called the Joe machine, it takes the input and gives i 23:00:18 [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197734&oldid=196191 * PeRsOn * (+91) Added Joe 23:01:17 -!- sprock has joined. 23:01:49 -!- ChimeraAnova has quit (Quit: bye). 23:48:00 [[List of ideas]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197735&oldid=196462 * PeRsOn * (+42) 23:50:30 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 23:55:21 [[Minecraft commands]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=197736&oldid=192667 * PeRsOn * (+419)