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00:00:00 <oerjan> @let primes = nubBy ((>1).gcd) [2..]
00:00:38 <oklopol> hehe
00:02:52 <oerjan> should have been @let primes = nubBy (((>1).).gcd) [2..]
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00:08:00 <oklopol> ah, i thought there was something weird in you saying that in here, but indeed, it must've been that error.
00:13:38 <ihope> immibis: maybe it's the \ in [^ \$]
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03:58:48 <oklopol> i've found another immibis
03:59:30 <oklopol> i think he's mating or something!
03:59:37 <oklopol> drinkity ->
04:12:24 <bsmntbombdood> oh no
04:12:34 <oklopol> :D
04:13:01 <oklopol> (i guess i might not have said that had i realized immibis was actually here, but i stand behind my statement xD)
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05:18:10 <immibis> oklopol: wtf?
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12:32:28 <SimonRC> hi
12:34:17 <RodgerTheGreat> hey
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13:52:41 <SimonRC> hi * 2
14:08:40 <oerjan> ackermann(hi, hi)
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16:46:06 <bsmntbombdood> we need to start our interprecompiler
18:05:56 <GregorR> ?
18:37:44 <bsmntbombdood> for IOCC
18:57:30 <RodgerTheGreat> my idea was to create something like a polyglot in reverse
18:57:44 <RodgerTheGreat> an interpreter and/or compiler for a bunch of different esolangs mooshed together
18:57:59 <RodgerTheGreat> and then, naturally, cut to ribbons to obfuscate it
18:59:51 <GregorR> Hrm.
19:08:44 * SimonRC goes
19:38:12 <bsmntbombdood> brainfuck and unlambda are a good combination because they are so different
19:38:43 <bsmntbombdood> so if you combine code for them, it will probably be completely ununderstandable
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20:14:43 <bsmntbombdood> i should write an unlambda interpreter regardless
20:23:29 <GregorR> If it's ununderstandable, does that mean it's derstandable?
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20:34:30 <molchuvka> RodgerTheGreat -- i will soon start writing a language which will have other languages as its sub-languages
20:35:47 <molchuvka> and will allow for adding additional languages using program source code (i.e. compilation units -- programs -- will add languages, it is not a install procedure but a property of compiler)
20:37:00 <molchuvka> that is, a program will be able to define one or more new sub-languages, and will be able to immediately use them
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20:37:34 <ehird`> toboge?
21:15:12 <jix> forth can do that... kind of
21:15:35 <jix> i think you can just change how the parser works right in your code
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21:23:58 <ehird`> what what
21:24:24 <oerjan> what molchuvka said just before you entered
21:26:02 <molchuvka> jix yes i know forth do some degree
21:26:14 <molchuvka> jix -- i plan even more
21:26:28 <jix> molchuvka: i think you can change everything with some forth systems
21:26:40 <jix> everything as in you can change the complete code of the parser compiler and everything
21:27:17 <molchuvka> behavior and code of compiler will be influenced at runtime by program code --- i.e. program code will be able to have a complex impact on compiler behavior, interacting compiler and program code
21:27:47 <molchuvka> jix yeah, i guess so
21:28:47 <molchuvka> but well... my language will be free syntax, noone did this in forth
21:29:16 <molchuvka> though it is possible, yes
21:30:21 <oklopol> also plof can do that
21:30:28 <molchuvka> i have a lot of expirience with ll1 grammars
21:30:38 * molchuvka googling plof
21:30:47 <oklopol> GregorR's language
21:30:51 <oklopol> one of them, that is
21:31:14 <oerjan> i recall something similar on lambda the ultimate a while ago
21:31:51 <molchuvka> also i plan that names are any objects
21:32:15 <oerjan> a language which could embed other languages' syntax
21:32:25 <molchuvka> e.g. name can be rich text or image or animation or applet
21:32:29 <oklopol> i got a pocket pc, btw! i'm the coolest ever
21:32:59 <oklopol> now if i could just find an irc client, my life would be perfect
21:33:22 * molchuvka away
21:37:23 <GregorR> oklopol: I had a Pocket PC. Then I installed a real OS :P
21:40:25 <molchuvka> i currently plan using Oberon-2 as a bootstrap language
21:40:53 <ehird`> molchuvka: you are wrong
21:40:55 <ehird`> forth is free syntax
21:41:05 <molchuvka> ehird` I agree
21:41:22 <molchuvka> where am I wrong? a quote please
21:45:42 <oklopol> GregorR: on that, or was that a joke i didn't get? :)
21:46:46 <oklopol> i have windows mobile on this, is it easy to get a nix in?
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21:48:59 <GregorR> oklopol: Depends on what model.
21:49:01 <GregorR> oklopol: For most, no.
21:49:07 <oklopol> pocket loox something...
21:49:25 <GregorR> oklopol: Since there's literally zero architecture standardization, porting to one is pretty much a once-off task.
21:49:25 <oklopol> don't remember the exact model right now...
21:49:37 <oklopol> yeah
21:49:52 <oklopol> I'LL DO IT!
21:50:08 <oklopol> hmm... or then not.
21:53:22 <RodgerTheGreat> lol- check this joke out:
21:53:25 <RodgerTheGreat> "ternary ? those who know it : those who don't"
21:54:48 * oerjan thinks that joke has simply too many meta-levels
21:54:56 <RodgerTheGreat> most likely
21:54:57 <oerjan> i'm not even sure it has a point
21:55:02 <ehird`> There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who know binary, and those who don't.
21:55:02 <GregorR> I think it has too few.
21:55:07 <ehird`> And those who confuse it with ternary.
21:55:09 <ehird`> ;)
21:55:14 <GregorR> It has no real meaning.
21:55:22 <RodgerTheGreat> but this is the most likely place I know of for people to appreciate it
21:55:27 <GregorR> :P
21:55:32 <ehird`> MINE IS MORE FUNAY
21:55:50 <GregorR> There are infinity kinds of people in this world. Those who understand base-1 math, and those who don't.
21:55:51 <oerjan> USE YOUR NAY-FU
21:56:25 <ehird`> GregorR: I hate people who call base-1 unary.
21:56:40 <ehird`> If base 2 = 01, then base 1 = 0
21:56:54 <ehird`> thus everything is 0 in base 1
21:59:14 <oerjan> interesting point
21:59:15 <RodgerTheGreat> everything is base 10. How do you write 8 in base-8? 10. How do you write 3 in base-3? 10.
22:00:19 <oklopol> RodgerTheGreat: you blew my mind!
22:00:46 <RodgerTheGreat> as keanu reeves would say, "woah!"
22:00:53 <GregorR> ehird`: 0 is 0. Now increase by one, and you'll end up in an infinite loop trying to define digits.
22:01:02 <ehird`> :-)
22:01:16 <GregorR> Hence, infinity kinds of people.
22:01:24 <ehird`> RodgerTheGreat: Sam Hughes suggested that should be used for a first-contact comedy ;)
22:01:37 <RodgerTheGreat> more like disaster
22:01:54 <ehird`> "infinity" in language refers to infinity as in a number > all other numbers, not infinite number-base expansion
22:02:00 <ehird`> which is why .9r is not infinity ;)
22:02:01 <RodgerTheGreat> we should definitely use unary until we understand each other to some degree
22:02:17 <ehird`> yes
22:02:25 <ehird`> but, how should you transmit the message?
22:02:32 <ehird`> you can't do ASCII
22:02:35 <ehird`> you can't use english
22:02:38 <ehird`> you can't signal with binary
22:02:43 <ehird`> you can basically do nothing
22:02:59 <oklopol> without binary, there's nothing
22:03:05 <RodgerTheGreat> gotta start somewhere
22:03:10 <ehird`> if an alien beams down to try and communicate with you
22:03:12 <ehird`> you're hopeless
22:03:23 <ehird`> (Assuming alien has no knowledge of humans)
22:03:40 <oerjan> reverse run-length encoding
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