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00:57:39 <pikhq> oerjan: Hey.
00:57:59 <pikhq> Out of *immense* curiosity, why are you no longer a first-class player in Agora?
01:01:05 <GregorR> Because, although you can store oerjan in a variable, you cannot pass oerjan as an argument to a function.
01:02:15 <ihope> Variable, you say? How hideous.
01:02:16 <pikhq> LMAO
01:02:34 <ihope> You don't see variables hanging around in math, do you? :-P
01:02:46 <oerjan> sure you do
01:03:01 <oerjan> they're just not _mutable_ variables
01:03:42 <ihope> If they're not mutable, they're not very variable, are they?
01:04:05 <GregorR> They're variables because their value depends on unknown information (generally speaking).
01:05:20 <GregorR> I love how I've prevented oerjan from actually asking the original question :P
01:05:33 <GregorR> s/asking/answering/ >_O
01:05:49 <ihope> Now preventing him further would require some creativity on your part.
01:06:06 <ihope> You just provoked him.
01:06:20 <GregorR> How did I screw up "answering" for "asking"...
01:06:26 <GregorR> I mean, they're related, but yeesh X-D
01:06:28 <ihope> Wait, did I just stifle him by saying you provoked him? Oh, wait, I provoked him by pointing out the stifling.
01:06:37 <GregorR> I'm just going to call it an incredibly intense typo.
01:06:39 <ihope> They're related and start with a. Therefore, they're confusable.
01:06:58 <GregorR> Like apples and artichoke!
01:07:17 <ihope> I don't think those are quite related enough.
01:07:34 <GregorR> They're both edible plant stuff.
01:07:38 <ihope> People ask questions regularly, and they answer questions regularly, and in about the same circumstances.
01:07:49 <pikhq> oerjan?
01:07:51 <ihope> They don't eat apples and artichokes in the same circumstances, generally.
01:08:11 <GregorR> You've never had my famous apple-glazed artichoke apparently.
01:08:37 <ihope> Indeed.
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01:11:18 * oerjan is realizing he may have to actually answer the question, despite GregorR's best attempts
01:11:30 <GregorR> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
01:11:45 <GregorR> I did such a good job of driving the conversation away, after I had myself drug it back just for the /challenge/.
01:12:06 <oerjan> oh. sorry about that.
01:12:06 <GregorR> I jumped from asking/answering to apple-glazed artichokes! Give me /some/ credit!
01:13:09 <GregorR> I think I might actually have to try apple-glazed artichokes X-D
01:13:24 <GregorR> On the surface it sounds horrible, but I think it might be one of those flavor combos that shouldn't work, but does.
01:13:39 <pikhq> I'm reminded, once again, that this is Gregor. :)
01:13:50 <oklopol> "(GregorR) How did I screw up "answering" for "asking"..." <<< yep, the laws of physics prevent him to do that
01:13:59 <oklopol> whoops
01:14:00 <oklopol> bad quote :D
01:14:05 <oklopol> anyways.
01:14:33 <GregorR> Clrealy Im' incaapble fo tpyos.
01:15:12 <ihope> Like ham and pineapple?
01:15:18 <pikhq> Mmm.
01:15:26 <ihope> Or... hmm.
01:15:35 <ihope> I'm trying to come up with a disgusting--oh, of course.
01:15:46 <ihope> Salisbury steak with strawberry ice cream.
01:15:46 <pikhq> Deep fried oil?
01:16:08 <GregorR> pikhq: How do you deep-fry oil? That's just mixing some oil into some other oil ...
01:16:12 <oerjan> anyway, i lost interest, even cut down a lot on my internet use. of course the last year has been just one large setback...
01:16:14 <ihope> I wouldn't call deep fried oil a disgusting flavor combination.
01:16:15 <GregorR> ihope: Is that /good/?
01:16:25 <pikhq> More just random.
01:16:29 <ihope> Salisbury steak with strawberry ice cream?
01:16:33 <ihope> I doubt it.
01:16:34 <GregorR> ihope: (Salistrawberry that is)
01:16:38 <GregorR> Heh
01:16:50 <pikhq> GregorR: Hmm. . .
01:16:58 <pikhq> Well, we could try to deep-fry lard. . .
01:17:21 <GregorR> 'round these parts, we call that pork rinds.
01:17:24 <GregorR> And they're deeeeeeeeeeeeelicious.
01:17:45 <pikhq> That's fried pig *skin*, not fat.
01:18:20 <GregorR> You don't cut the fat off the skin when you make pork rinds.
01:18:26 <pikhq> True.
01:18:38 <pikhq> BTW, I'm more just being random.
01:18:49 * oerjan is trying to remember Delirium's ice cream flavor from Sandman
01:19:58 <oerjan> ah yes, giyf. "Green Mouse and Telephone Icecream"
01:22:12 <GregorR> Yum
01:23:39 <ihope> Don't telephones contain Mercury?
01:23:45 <ihope> (Either the planet or the Roman god; I don't care.)
01:24:09 <GregorR> How to make a tasty deep-fried treat: 1) Buy ingredients: Large vat of boiling oil, dry ice and a small Filipino boy. 2) Place Filipino boy in dry ice until frozen solid. 3) Shatter now-frozen Filipino boy into boiling oil. 4) Wait fifteen minutes, drain and enjoy!
01:25:21 <bsmntbombdood> so, how can we combine a brainfuck and unlambda interpreter?
01:25:52 <ihope> Take advantage of the fact that stack-based = suffix notation.
01:26:09 <ihope> Alternatively, 0x29A.
01:26:31 <bsmntbombdood> so?
01:27:00 <ihope> ...what are you after?
01:27:40 <bsmntbombdood> obfuscation
01:29:58 <ihope> Oh.
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03:09:32 <bsmntbombdood> hi
03:09:42 <edwardk> how goes?
03:12:45 <oklopol> about 49
03:14:03 <immibis> oklopol: what did you mean when you said "i found another immibis"?
03:14:50 <edwardk> how progresses oklotalk?
03:21:23 <edwardk> gah rebooting
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03:30:18 <bsmntbombdood> heh, rebooting
03:36:14 <oklopol> immibis: i found a guy that's a lot like you.
03:36:22 <oklopol> so much like you that i had to say it somewhere.
03:36:34 <bsmntbombdood> grar >_<
03:36:40 <bsmntbombdood> i can't find the book i'm looking for
03:36:47 <oklopol> is it pron?
03:37:13 <bsmntbombdood> no
03:37:34 <oklopol> i don't understand
03:38:22 <bsmntbombdood> it was about a lesbian who pretended to be a man in order to pick up chicks, and ended up hating men because of her experiences
03:38:25 <bsmntbombdood> or something like that
03:38:57 <ihope> Pretending to be a man in order to pick up chicks?
03:39:19 <oklopol> is there something weird in that? :\
03:39:21 <ihope> "I have something to tell you." "What?" "I... I'm a woman." "WHAT?" *slam*
03:39:41 <ihope> Or am I misunderstanding?
03:39:53 <ihope> I'd better read today's xkcd to make sure.
03:40:07 <oklopol> well you can do other stuff, and tell her the truth once it'll be emotionally fatal for her to leave you
03:40:39 <oklopol> i'm pretty sure someone lying about their genitals isn't that eager to get naked.
03:40:41 <bsmntbombdood> ihope: she just did it to learn about a single, het, man's relationship with women
03:41:52 <ihope> Het?
03:42:09 <bsmntbombdood> heterosexual
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03:43:55 <bsmntbombdood> but i can't remember or find the title now :(
03:45:39 <RodgerTheGreat> It baffles me why someone would go to the internet to "pick up chicks" in the first place
03:46:02 <bsmntbombdood> the internet?
03:46:33 <bsmntbombdood> she didn't
03:47:22 <oklopol> RodgerTheGreat: the get them without having to go out?
03:47:25 <oklopol> *to get
03:47:59 <RodgerTheGreat> bsmntbombdood: oh, alright- that makes a tiny bit more sense
03:48:51 <bsmntbombdood> singles bars, etc
03:49:11 <RodgerTheGreat> yes
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04:50:32 <GregorR> Hmmm, is MISC supposed to increase its instruction pointer before or after branching? That is, do you branch to 0 to just branch to the next instruction, or branch to 1? ...
04:52:50 <bsmntbombdood> oisc is pwnage
04:53:01 <GregorR> I'm trying to write a quick MISC interpreter.
04:53:34 <GregorR> But I don't know whether branching to 0 is a loop or a noop...
04:54:52 <GregorR> IMHO, \0\0\0\0 should be a noop.
04:55:16 <GregorR> (That continues on the next instruction)
04:55:23 <GregorR> That is, IP would increment after branching.
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05:19:51 <Meldarion_inq> Hello people :)
05:23:45 <oklopol> Hello, world!
05:23:56 <Meldarion_inq> lol
05:24:02 <Meldarion_inq> how are you doing?
05:24:09 <oklopol> math test in 40 mins, and i did not sleep
05:24:12 <oklopol> mwahaha
05:24:17 <Meldarion_inq> what math?
05:24:18 <oklopol> i feel wobbly
05:24:23 <oklopol> err something trivial
05:24:29 <oklopol> probabilities etc.
05:24:33 <Meldarion_inq> lol - ok.
05:24:40 <oklopol> they don't teach anything in high school
05:25:44 <oklopol> i don't know if it's any use going to the test, i'm not gonna pass the course unless i do about 50 additional exercises, and i don't think i'm gonna
05:25:56 <oklopol> but then again, it can't hurt me
05:25:57 <oklopol> ->
05:27:26 <oklopol> btw, i just installed python on my pocket pc and it has almost all the library support the *real* python has
05:27:38 <oklopol> should i idolize python or microsoft for this?
05:28:02 <oklopol> anyways, gtg ->
05:29:15 <Meldarion_inq> yup
05:29:20 <Meldarion_inq> good luck with your exam
05:29:22 <Meldarion_inq> :D
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06:50:30 <GregorR> My MISC interpreter (+ memory mapped I/O) just printed an 'A' :)
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08:10:18 <oklopol> the exam was ridiculous
08:10:39 <oklopol> i'm sure everyone wants to know that ;)
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16:25:25 <GregorR> Anybody want to write a MISC backend for GCC? :P
16:26:41 <RodgerTheGreat> :S
16:36:10 <GregorR> http://www.choosemyhat.com/ < WTF???
16:36:21 <GregorR> Did somebody hack my vote?!
16:37:45 <GregorR> They're all from different IPs >_O
16:38:00 <GregorR> Somebody first hacked a bunch of other systems, and THEN hacked my hat site :P
16:38:52 <oklopol> 75 votes is more than the usual daily vote amount?
16:38:59 <oklopol> how much more
16:40:24 <GregorR> About 74
16:41:32 <RodgerTheGreat> heh
16:41:59 <oklopol> slight growth
16:42:11 <oklopol> tomorrow it'll get over a million.
16:42:24 <GregorR> So far, tomorrow has two.
16:44:11 <RodgerTheGreat> Saturday shall be red fedora day!
16:45:05 * oklopol goes haxxor now
16:45:41 <oklopol> umm...
16:45:48 <RodgerTheGreat> GregorR: well, at least you know whoever hacked your site is dedicated
16:46:02 <oklopol> i pressed a green hat and a blue one was chosen :<<
16:46:14 <RodgerTheGreat> oh, my. What would happen if somebody dugg ChooseMyHat.com?
16:46:19 <oklopol> but anyways, i already got one vote, 999997 left
16:46:34 <oklopol> let's all digg it!
16:46:42 <RodgerTheGreat> sweet christ
16:47:03 <RodgerTheGreat> GregorR: how can your webserver stand up to a slashdot?
16:47:16 <oklopol> actually, i have 3 ip's, so i could at least get 3 votes
16:47:33 <oklopol> err...... prolly don't just ban individual ip's, but the whole... set
16:47:34 <RodgerTheGreat> I have easy access to 2 unique IPs
16:47:47 <oklopol> ah
16:47:49 <RodgerTheGreat> actually... oh, computer lab access would be evil here
16:48:33 <oklopol> pretty easy to get 75 votes there, it's not like it's that hard to get people to press one button :P
16:49:43 <bsmntbombdood> i'd digg it
16:50:10 <bsmntbombdood> i only have access to one internet protocol
16:50:23 <RodgerTheGreat> if I understand correctly, digg items getting onto the main page is a function of the "velocity", or rate at which something gains diggs.
16:50:42 <RodgerTheGreat> if you can get about 7 people to digg in in a few minutes, it'll hit front page and take off like crazy
16:50:56 <bsmntbombdood> i better make an acount
16:51:07 <RodgerTheGreat> link us up once you make the post
16:51:35 <oklopol> hmm
16:51:39 <oklopol> i'll make one too
16:53:27 <bsmntbombdood> hopefully new acounts don't have less weight than old ones
16:53:50 <RodgerTheGreat> I dunno
16:54:14 <RodgerTheGreat> hurry up with the post- I gotta leave for class in a few minutes
16:54:29 <bsmntbombdood> me too
16:55:21 <oklopol> :>
16:55:22 <oklopol> :<
16:55:28 <oklopol> i haven't gotten the mail yet..
16:56:05 <RodgerTheGreat> well, g2g
16:56:08 <RodgerTheGreat> cy'all
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16:56:17 <oklopol> bye
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17:02:36 <bsmntbombdood> gar
17:02:48 <bsmntbombdood> hurry up GregorR
17:03:59 <oklopol> hmm... what should GregorR hurry?
17:04:23 <bsmntbombdood> digging choose my hat
17:04:44 <oklopol> he said he's gonna?
17:05:07 <bsmntbombdood> i dunno
17:06:52 <oklopol> digg does not like me
17:15:09 <ehird`> digging is easy
17:15:15 <ehird`> i got to #1 almost instantly
17:15:24 <ehird`> when i made The Most Pointless Site Ever
17:15:47 <ehird`> (if you weren't there: you made an account, then there was a number. there was a button to increase the number (for everyone else too) and a list of people who have clicked the most. That's it.)
17:15:56 <ehird`> it got #1 on digg for a long time
17:16:11 <ehird`> it was submitted, then the next day a few people had digged it
17:16:17 <ehird`> i had posted it on a forum i frequent
17:16:24 <ehird`> and people just ended up digging it
17:16:51 <ehird`> all in all it got over 600 diggs in total, digg used tons of scripts, and /b/ found it
17:16:57 <ehird`> so, digg's algo is kinda broken
17:17:00 <ehird`> promotes too easily
18:00:53 <SimonRC> heh
18:05:46 <RodgerTheGreat> I'm back
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18:58:11 <bsmntbombdood> GregorR: digg plz
19:14:20 <ehird`> Context-Free Design Grammar is wow
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19:14:24 <ehird`> it has some esoterica in there
19:14:42 <ehird`> in that you can do infinite recursion as long as the part you draw gets infinitely small
19:14:47 <ehird`> which is crazy awesome
19:14:51 <ehird`> a very natural way to think about things
19:14:57 <ehird`> and must make things like the mandelbrot set trivial
19:15:12 <SimonRC> no
19:15:21 <SimonRC> The mandlebrot self is not self--similar
19:15:28 <ehird`> i know
19:16:36 <Sgeo> What are we talking about?
19:17:08 <ehird`> Context-Free Design Grammar
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21:35:58 <moomoo> let f be the mccarthy 91 function
21:37:47 <moomoo> please compute f(n) for every n between 0 and 100
21:45:03 <bsmntbom1dood> GregorR: WHERE:S TA DIGG?
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22:00:41 <bsmntbombdood> how am i supposed to talk about brainfuck with a teacher ?
22:01:51 <lament> very carefully.
22:02:05 <lament> maybe give your teacher flowers first?
22:03:26 <bsmntbombdood> today i just called it P''
22:05:16 <oerjan> call it brainhugsandkisses
22:05:32 <bsmntbombdood> maybe just BF
22:12:32 <ehird`> BrainF
22:12:53 <ehird`> brainsexualintercourse
22:13:04 <SimonRC> heh
22:13:29 <SimonRC> a clbuttic mistake
22:14:17 <ehird`> :)
22:14:28 <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: hopefully any teacher intersted in it is the type that doesn't care about the words, just how they're used
22:16:07 <ehird`> BrainShit
22:16:10 <ehird`> BrainAsshole
22:16:21 <ehird`> plenty of options
22:17:16 <SimonRC> When talking about sex, there are few words that were not at some point a euphamism.
22:17:17 <lament> is "brain" a swear word? i don't think so.
22:18:05 <ehird`> BrainBrain
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22:18:14 <SimonRC> "sex" was originally male/female, "make love" is a euphamism, "shag" is random, ditto "rodger" etc.
22:18:36 <SimonRC> the only non-euphamism I can think of is "fuck" itself
22:18:55 <bsmntbombdood> hard to say if something is a euphamism
22:19:55 <SimonRC> etymology?
22:20:12 <bsmntbombdood> and the teacher in question isn't interested in it specifically, i just have to tell them what i'm working on
22:21:10 <SimonRC> "Brainfunk"?
22:21:19 <SimonRC> "BrainF"?
22:21:23 <ehird`> BrainMakeLove
22:21:28 <SimonRC> lol
22:21:46 <lament> brainSodomize
22:21:49 <bsmntbombdood> fuck != sex in brainfuck
22:22:15 <SimonRC> BrainScrew?
22:22:15 <lament> by the way, it's "euphemism"
22:22:19 <SimonRC> works both ways
22:22:20 <ehird`> BrainEuphemism
22:22:40 <bsmntbombdood> BrainMessup
22:22:57 <bsmntbombdood> brainconfuser
22:24:06 <ehird`> Brainal
22:24:13 <ehird`> That would be a good name for a BF derivative.
22:29:37 <bsmntbombdood> gar >_<
22:29:54 <bsmntbombdood> this torrent has 7991 seeders, but is downloading at 6kB/s
22:30:01 <ehird`> they are very slow seeders
22:30:02 <ehird`> ;)
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22:33:09 <lament> 7991? it can only be porn
22:33:18 <bsmntbombdood> it's not!
22:33:25 <ehird`> it's a "linux distro"
22:33:30 <ehird`> (Aka, porn)
22:33:43 <lament> linux distro? "Lesbian"?
22:33:58 <bsmntbombdood> it's Prison.Break.S03E03.HDTV.XViD-Caph.avi
22:34:08 <ehird`> (Aka, porn)
22:34:38 <bsmntbombdood> no
22:34:44 <bsmntbombdood> i do have lots of porn seeding though
22:36:17 <bsmntbombdood> http://pizdaus.com/pics/MC3KUw7uCDtL.jpg
22:38:06 <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: is that NSFW
22:38:11 <bsmntbombdood> no
22:38:20 * SimonRC cautiously clicks
22:38:51 <SimonRC> where is that?
22:38:56 <bsmntbombdood> dunno
22:39:12 <SimonRC> where di you get it from/
22:39:18 <bsmntbombdood> http://pizdaus.com/index.php?sort=best
22:40:47 <ehird`> thats a shitload of macs
22:43:25 <ehird`> Or is it a metric fuckton?
22:43:51 <bsmntbombdood> a metric kilokiloton
22:45:28 * SimonRC prefers the imperial fuckton
22:46:21 <bsmntbombdood> a metric fuckton is larger than an imperial fuckton
22:47:34 <SimonRC> no, a common misconception
22:47:37 <oerjan> so now you can convert a pound to either newtons or fucktons, depending?
22:51:54 <ehird`> everything you need to know about the metric fuckton: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1398601
22:57:39 <bsmntbombdood> a metric fuckton is 2200 fucks
22:57:47 <bsmntbombdood> an imperial fuckton is 2000 fucks
22:59:00 <ehird`> i think you've got that back assward
22:59:03 <oerjan> ah
22:59:54 <bsmntbombdood> no
23:00:07 <SimonRC> I could nick that for an Uncyclopedia article.
23:00:55 <bsmntbombdood> or it could be 1000/907, depending on how you look at it
23:02:31 <bsmntbombdood> as long as the raito is 1.10231131
23:07:50 <oerjan> i see you are using a properly shitty calculator for this
23:09:38 <lament> >>> 1111111111 ** 2 - 1111111110 * 1111111112
23:09:40 <lament> 1L
23:09:49 <lament> i like nice calculators :)
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23:32:21 <ehird`> >>> 1
23:32:31 <ehird`> hm
23:32:36 <ehird`> oh
23:32:42 <ehird`> you copied and pasted python interactive prompt stuff
23:33:21 <oerjan> only because he is EVIL
23:34:23 <bsmntbombdood> oerjan: approximations
23:35:09 <GregorR> I made an assembly language (and assembler) for MISC.
23:35:22 <GregorR> It's fun writing assembly with only arguments, no operators :P
23:36:11 <GregorR> A taste of misc-as: 0xFF 0xFF $1 0 # Subtract 1 from the value at address 0xFF
23:36:27 <GregorR> Erm, that's /relative/ address 0xFF
23:36:29 <GregorR> For absolute:
23:36:35 <GregorR> %0xFF %0xFF $1 0
23:36:35 <bsmntbombdood> i wrote a subleq machine and assembler
23:38:06 <GregorR> What did your assembly language look like?
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23:39:00 <bsmntbombdood> a list of adresses basically
23:40:16 <bsmntbombdood> with labels and a few constants
23:40:51 <bsmntbombdood> http://pastebin.ca/723643
23:41:05 <bsmntbombdood> that's cat
23:46:37 <ehird`> Craziest reddit headline ever: Australian actresses are plagiarizing my quantum mechanics lecture to sell printers
23:54:27 <oerjan> Well, don't do that.
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23:55:54 <GregorR> So, I bought an old tablet PC plus "whatever spare parts I have lying around." Apparently "whatever spare parts I have lying around" amounts to FIVE SPARE BATTERIES.
23:56:25 <GregorR> I didn't desperately need six batteries for this :P
23:59:10 <bsmntbombdood> heh
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