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00:00:16 <ehird`> i'm not as silly as to lie about typing speed
00:00:21 <fax> nah
00:00:22 <fax> Wow! Your typing speed (with 4 mistakes) is: 90.93 wpm
00:00:23 <fax> I suck
00:00:29 <ehird`> what about cpm? :)
00:00:35 <fax> I don't know :|
00:00:40 <fax> I'll try again
00:00:42 <bsmntbombdood> i got 70wpm with 6 mistakes
00:00:48 <bsmntbombdood> that's faster than i thought
00:00:57 <GregorR> Jabbin == compatible with Google Voice, might work on GNU/Linux and is F/OSS.
00:01:00 * ehird` checks results... my cpm was 545-627
00:01:26 <bsmntbombdood> are we actually going to have a voice chat?
00:01:34 * ehird` won't join in
00:01:42 <RodgerTheGreat> Wow! Your typing speed (with 4 mistakes) is: 76.41 wpm 307.5 cpm
00:01:44 <RodgerTheGreat> :/
00:01:49 <RodgerTheGreat> I'm trying that again.
00:01:58 <ehird`> hah
00:02:18 <ehird`> it's funny, i use bad old qwerty and my typing speeds are generally a lot faster than most dvorak users
00:02:24 <ehird`> especially the ones that go on and on and on about it ;)
00:02:30 <ehird`> i want to switch to dvorak sometime though
00:02:47 <fax> 350 cmp
00:02:49 <fax> cpm
00:02:50 <bsmntbombdood> i have these random pauses while i'm doing it
00:02:50 <fax> what is that?
00:02:58 <bsmntbombdood> dvorak?
00:03:02 <bsmntbombdood> it's a keyboard layout
00:03:08 <fax> what is cpm
00:03:12 <ehird`> characters per minute
00:03:14 <fax> ok
00:03:16 <bsmntbombdood> char/min
00:03:16 <GregorR> 2 mistakes, 119.79 wpm, 537.6 cpm
00:03:40 * GregorR tries to do it with no mistakes ...
00:04:08 <bsmntbombdood> got 84
00:04:20 <GregorR> 126.5 wpm with 3 mistakes :P
00:04:42 <ehird`> i just did it again... I am very tired, so my muscles aren't very fast right now, but I did give it a half-decent shot: 1 mistake, 135.48 wpm, 624.55 cpm
00:04:43 <RodgerTheGreat> nice
00:04:44 <GregorR> Must ... get ... no mistakes ...
00:05:13 <ehird`> i guess i just type really, really fast :P
00:05:20 <RodgerTheGreat> Too bad there isn't a typing tester that uses sourcecode as a benchmark.
00:05:30 <ehird`> i am actually really slow at typing code
00:05:31 <GregorR> 144.23 wpm/608.57 cpm with no mistakes
00:05:35 <ehird`> I have to think almost every line
00:05:35 <RodgerTheGreat> choose a language you're familiar with, and then pound away
00:05:49 <GregorR> I type much faster than I'm actually capable of coding *shrugs*
00:05:49 <ehird`> but that's just because I'm deciding what to write, of course
00:05:50 <ehird`> not the actual typing
00:05:58 <RodgerTheGreat> I'm quite a bit faster at *typing* when I'm coding, and I've noticed I tend to make fewer typos.
00:06:21 <GregorR> Going back to voice chat :P Jabbin == compatible with Google Voice, might work on GNU/Linux and is F/OSS.
00:06:26 <GregorR> Any arguments?
00:06:34 <ehird`> nobody's up for a voice chat :P
00:06:50 <GregorR> Oh come on, I /hate/ my voice and I still like voice chat :P
00:07:17 <bsmntbombdood> i''l;ll dod it
00:07:19 <ehird`> I like voice chats, but not when I am tired and bleh.
00:07:21 <RodgerTheGreat> I've also noticed an interesting trend with typos in IRC- the vast majority of the incorrect letters (or letter sequences) I type are phonetically equivalent.
00:07:27 <bsmntbombdood> jeez thoze typin test fuckd my fings
00:07:29 <bsmntbombdood> wtf?@?!
00:07:37 <ehird`> bsmntbombdood: ahahahahhahahha
00:07:45 <RodgerTheGreat> lol
00:08:00 <RodgerTheGreat> GregorR: voice chat, you say?
00:08:06 <ehird`> i literally rofl'd, except i leaned back on my chair probably too far instead of rolling on the floor
00:08:13 <RodgerTheGreat> heh
00:08:38 <ehird`> also i read "fings" as "figs" first
00:08:41 <ehird`> which was even more hilarious
00:09:10 <bsmntbombdood> GregorR: E: Couldn't find package jabbin
00:09:14 <bsmntbombdood> that fails
00:09:19 <GregorR> lol
00:09:30 <RodgerTheGreat> this needs to become a new in-joke. "Aw, man- that test totally fucked my figs!" "No way! You're fucking my figs!"
00:09:59 <GregorR> bsmntbombdood: There's a .deb on the jabbin web site.
00:10:11 <bsmntbombdood> executing arbitrary code?!?!
00:10:14 <bsmntbombdood> you're insane
00:10:37 <RodgerTheGreat> macOS version: "In Development". Hm.
00:10:39 <GregorR> apt-get install <foo> is executing arbitrary code
00:10:43 <bsmntbombdood> i know :P
00:10:45 <GregorR> RodgerTheGreat: Yeah, unfortunate *sigh*
00:10:51 <ehird`> GregorR: O NOES!!121212
00:11:05 <ehird`> RodgerTheGreat: i wholehartedly agree
00:11:08 <GregorR> Is there a Google-voice-alike for OS X?
00:11:13 <RodgerTheGreat> we could just all load up skype- it has good support across all platforms
00:11:19 <ehird`> skype is shady
00:11:24 <GregorR> Skype is crapzilla.
00:11:24 * RodgerTheGreat shrugs
00:11:25 <ehird`> on windows they used to send off your whole bios to their servers
00:11:31 <RodgerTheGreat> lol
00:11:36 <ehird`> and also they scan /etc/password and firefox profiles on linux
00:11:43 <ehird`> firefox profile!! why does skype need to access that?
00:11:56 <ehird`> shady, and i don't like their business model, so fuck skype
00:12:17 <bsmntbombdood> k i have jabbin GregorR
00:12:49 <bsmntbombdood> GregorR: what now?
00:13:15 <bsmntbombdood> what host?
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00:13:59 <GregorR> bsmntbombdood: Uh, I have a Google Voice account, do you?
00:14:06 <GregorR> Erm, Google Talk.
00:14:08 <GregorR> Whatever :P
00:15:19 <RodgerTheGreat> lemme try Adium
00:15:33 * ehird` disappears now
00:15:37 <ehird`> i hope many fig fucking will ensue
00:16:04 <bsmntbombdood> GregorR: nope
00:16:04 <GregorR> Hrm, I'm having trouble connecting to gtalk >_>
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00:16:34 <bsmntbombdood> how do i make one
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00:17:31 <bsmntbombdood> google talk seems to have an in-browser client
00:18:04 <RodgerTheGreat> I have a google talk client set up. Where are we connecting?
00:18:34 <bsmntbombdood> ok
00:18:36 <GregorR> Oh, there we go, now I'm online.
00:18:40 <bsmntbombdood> my google username is gavinwahl
00:19:09 <RodgerTheGreat> I'm "RodgerTheGreat"
00:19:20 <GreaseMonkey> bsmntbombdood, what library should i use for making a python IRC bot?
00:19:28 <bsmntbombdood> GreaseMonkey: you shouldn't
00:19:35 <GreaseMonkey> whyzat?
00:19:42 <bsmntbombdood> because i didn't
00:19:46 <RodgerTheGreat> GreaseMonkey: use Java. :D
00:20:17 <GreaseMonkey> bsmntbombdood, what did you use then?
00:20:32 <GreaseMonkey> a C client with Python access?
00:20:38 <bsmntbombdood> the socket library?
00:20:47 <GreaseMonkey> ok.
00:23:45 <bsmntbombdood> what do we do?!?
00:25:04 <RodgerTheGreat> indeed
00:26:16 <RodgerTheGreat> I'm so confused. :S
00:26:48 <fax> Why not write a bot in an esolang ?
00:27:05 <RodgerTheGreat> why not write an esolang *for* making bots?
00:27:26 <bsmntbombdood> oh i see
00:27:29 <bsmntbombdood> the web client can't make calls
00:27:45 <RodgerTheGreat> fuck
00:28:09 <RodgerTheGreat> how *do* we make calls?
00:32:09 <bsmntbombdood> i'm clueless
00:32:19 <bsmntbombdood> GregorR: how do you use jabbin?
00:32:26 <RodgerTheGreat> bbl
00:33:07 <bsmntbombdood> maybe we should just use skype
00:33:09 <GregorR> bsmntbombdood: There's a howto on using Jabbin for google talk on Jabbin's home page.
00:33:26 * GregorR is sure as hell not using Skype >_>
00:33:31 <bsmntbombdood> no there's not
00:33:49 <GreaseMonkey> actually, that'd rock making a bot in befunge
00:34:08 <GreaseMonkey> funge-98 FTW
00:34:41 <GregorR> bsmntbombdood: "Configure for GTalk?"
00:34:56 <bsmntbombdood> oops :P
00:35:23 <GreaseMonkey> "CAPI"(0"SOCK_STREAM"G"AF_INET"G3"socket"C)
00:36:29 <bsmntbombdood> ok cool
00:36:33 <oklopol> haha 64.8 wpm :D
00:36:36 <oklopol> @ me
00:36:39 <oklopol> i'm drunk though
00:36:54 <bsmntbombdood> hurry up GregorR pick up
00:36:56 <oklopol> and i get quite self-conscious at typing tests
00:37:15 <GregorR> bsmntbombdood: I'm actually at work right now X-D
00:38:08 <bsmntbombdood> so?
00:39:20 <bsmntbombdood> why is your name flashing in read?
00:39:22 <GregorR> So I'm in a public setting, and talking loudly would annoy people?
00:39:56 <bsmntbombdood> say somthing
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00:43:36 <bsmntbombdood> someone else do it
00:48:18 <GreaseMonkey> mind you, robomonkey had its commands coded in brainsecks
00:52:02 <GreaseMonkey> bsmntbombdood, how do i set the port number of a socket in python?
00:52:28 <bsmntbombdood> uhh...the second item in the address tuple
00:53:15 <oklopol> o
00:53:38 <GreaseMonkey> ok.
00:53:43 <oklopol> i'll do some sleeping now ->
00:54:03 <GreaseMonkey> next time i should read the top section
01:11:54 <pikhq> I win at obfuscated HTML.
01:12:01 <pikhq> http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/ob.html
01:12:06 <pikhq> It's valid. It doesn't have < in it.
01:12:09 <pikhq> Errm.
01:12:14 <pikhq> s/</>/
01:12:23 <fax> rof
01:12:28 <fax> howis that valid?
01:12:44 <pikhq> SGML null-end-tags.
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01:12:58 <fax> 1 thing
01:13:00 <fax> It doesn't work
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01:13:08 <fax> my browser sucks
01:13:09 <pikhq> Well, yes.
01:13:19 <pikhq> That's a bug in every browser in existence, not in my HTML. :p
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01:16:19 <GregorR> Um ... SGML is a proper superset of HTML ...
01:16:33 <GregorR> Which is to say: Just because it's valid SGML doesn't mean its' valid HTML.
01:17:48 <GregorR> OK ...
01:17:53 <GregorR> so the validator is happy >_O
01:18:03 <GregorR> I think that says more about the validator being el crapolla then anything else :P
01:18:09 <pikhq> In this case, it's also valid HTML, since the HTML specification and document-type definition do not do anything about the SGML *syntax*.
01:18:31 <pikhq> The HTML specs *themselves* explicitly state that my kind of abuse is quite valid (if unrecommended).
01:28:17 <fax> What is the smallest brainfuck program which you cannot prove terminates or not?
01:29:17 <pikhq> ,[]
01:29:20 <lament> fax: trick question
01:29:31 <fax> Why? I didn't intent it to be
01:29:52 <lament> fax: i doubt you can always prove that you cannot prove whether it terminates or not
01:29:56 <pikhq> lament: I assume that he means "a human can't prove terminates or not", not a Turing machine.
01:30:16 <pikhq> And the shortest way to pull that off is to use the nondeterminism of ",". ;)
01:30:58 <lament> fax: for example, consider a program that consecutively looks at every even integer
01:31:03 <lament> fax: and tries to break it into two primes
01:31:08 <lament> fax: once it fails, it halts.
01:31:21 <fax> ahaha
01:31:23 <fax> Very nice :D
01:31:28 <lament> fax: does this program halt or not? I have no idea. Can it be proven? I have no idea.
01:31:30 <fax> But this will be a large program!
01:32:27 <lament> the point remains that we don't know whether it halts or not, but we suspect that eventually it will be proven that it doesn't halt.
01:37:34 <pikhq> lament: Also, he asked what's the smallest program that can be proven that it doesn't halt, not whether any arbitrary program *can* be proven to do so.
01:39:06 <fax> :/
01:39:14 <fax> I got interested in program size and stuff
01:39:26 <fax> it seems like a bad thing to be interested in :p
01:41:35 <pikhq> Not necessarily.
01:41:39 <pikhq> Brainfuck golf == good.
01:41:44 <fax> hehe
01:41:54 <fax> I wrote this code http://paste.lisp.org/display/49075#2
01:42:08 <fax> but I think I'll try another approach tommorow
01:45:21 <fax> the genetic algorithm beats me sometimes though
01:45:27 <fax> quite often..
01:46:34 <fax> I want to see other peoples approach to tis
02:00:43 <bsmntbombdood> what's brainfuck golf?
02:01:16 <GreaseMonkey> bsmntbombdood: it's a challenge to make the smallest version of a program possible
02:01:25 <GreaseMonkey> e.g. "Hello World!!!!!1"
02:01:31 <fax> I think my challange is meta-golf though :p
02:08:23 <bsmntbombdood> oh
02:12:52 <RodgerTheGreat> I'm back
02:14:35 <GreaseMonkey> yay
02:15:50 <RodgerTheGreat> :)
02:15:57 <bsmntbombdood> hooray
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02:44:47 <GregorR> Forbleborble
02:44:58 <GregorR> Now that I'm at home, somebody help me test if this Google Talk client works :P
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02:50:10 <RodgerTheGreat> adium sucks ass
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13:11:17 <Garlic> fax machine
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13:23:00 <ehird`> tax machine
13:23:16 * fax machine
13:23:30 * ehird` machine
13:23:31 <ehird`> wait.
13:23:50 <fax> ;D
13:27:18 <ehird`> wow /me looking at earlier logs
13:27:33 <ehird`> that piemonkey bot stored cmds as strings of source code!!!
13:39:27 <fax> !bf_text Hello world
13:39:29 <EgoBot> Huh?
13:39:33 <fax> do it
13:39:38 <ehird`> !bftext blah
13:39:40 <ehird`> !help
13:39:41 <EgoBot> Huh?
13:39:43 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
13:39:45 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
13:39:48 <ehird`> !bf_txtgen.
13:39:51 <EgoBot> Huh?
13:41:21 <ehird`> where the heck is my blahbot source
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13:45:10 <ehird`> %bf +.
13:45:10 <blahbot`> <CTCP>
13:45:25 <ehird`> hmm
13:46:13 <ehird`> egobot's txtgen is realllllllly slow
13:47:09 <ehird`> %bf +.++++++++++++++[>+++++>++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>-----.++.>.<++++++.++++++.-.>>>++++.<++++.<+++++++++++++++++.>-.+.[-]+.
13:47:15 <ehird`> er
13:47:20 <ehird`> whoops.
13:47:26 <ehird`> %bf +.[-]++++++++++++++[>+++++>++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>-----.++.>.<++++++.++++++.-.>>>++++.<++++.<+++++++++++++++++.>-.+.[-]+.
13:47:27 * blahbot` test
13:47:29 <ehird`> yay
13:47:51 <fax> %bf >++++++++[<++++++++>-]<+.>++++[<++++>-]<+.-----------.-.++.>+++++[<-------->-]<+.
13:47:52 <blahbot`> ARGFH!
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13:48:12 <ehird`> blahbot has a helpful brainfuck syntax-checker too, without running code
13:48:19 <ehird`> %parse +[--<]+]+
13:48:34 <ehird`> ehm.
13:48:41 * ehird` restarts bot
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13:50:43 <ehird`> %parse +[--<]+]+
13:50:49 <ehird`> ah, d'og
13:50:51 <ehird`> *d'oh
13:52:23 <ehird`> %quit
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13:53:02 <fax> %bf >++++[<++++++++>-]<+.>++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<-.---.+++++++.++++.
13:53:02 <blahbot`> !help
13:53:05 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
13:53:07 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
13:53:15 <ehird`> fax: haha yow
13:54:01 <ehird`> now make a program (F) for blahbot`, which will run egobot's !bf with a program (G), where G will send the original program F to blahbot via %bf
13:54:03 <ehird`> infinite bot loop :D
13:54:05 <ehird`> %parse +[--<]+]+
13:54:05 <blahbot`> Unmatched ].
13:54:08 <ehird`> %parse +[--<]++
13:54:09 <blahbot`> +[--<]++
13:55:34 <fax> %bf >++++[<++++++++>-]<+.>++++++++[<++++++++>-]<+.++++.>+++++++[<---------->-]<.>+++++[<++++++>-]<.>+++[<------>-]<-....>++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++[<------>-]<-.>++++[<---->-]<-........>++++[<+++++>-]<-.>++++[<---->-]<-.>++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>++++[<-------->-]<-.>++++[<---->-]<-.+++.
13:55:34 <blahbot`> !bf >++++[<++++++++>-]<+.
13:55:37 <EgoBot> !
13:55:44 <fax> heh
13:55:50 <fax> there is not enough msg
13:55:57 <ehird`> heh
13:56:14 <ehird`> yeah, i definately think F is too complex to fit into a message
13:56:17 <ehird`> it would have to quine itself
13:56:56 <ehird`> F's output would have to be: !bf <G>, and G's output would have to be: %bf <F>
13:57:01 <ehird`> that's some crazy delayed quining
13:57:06 <fax> :D
13:57:45 <ehird`> ... if you can write it, even if it is over the message limit
13:57:48 <ehird`> i will salute you
14:06:37 <oklopol> there's a 410 character quine in bf
14:07:01 <ehird`> that isn't the point
14:07:04 <oklopol> hmm... double-quining might be a bit harder in brainfuck than normal quining
14:07:05 <ehird`> it isnt actually quining
14:07:13 <ehird`> i'll show an example, wait
14:07:17 <oklopol> ...
14:07:19 <oklopol> err okay
14:08:01 <ehird`> http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1192280870.html fully explained
14:08:36 <oklopol> i'm not sure how anyone could not have known that was what you were talking about
14:08:51 <oklopol> but anyways, i did.
14:08:59 <ehird`> well. the quine is delayed by one step.
14:09:49 <oklopol> i think you can do that with extra 100 characters...
14:09:59 <oklopol> !bf_txt_Gen
14:10:03 <EgoBot> Huh?
14:10:04 <oklopol> !bf_txt_gen !bf
14:10:07 <ehird`> !bf_txtgen
14:10:07 <EgoBot> Huh?
14:10:09 <EgoBot> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: n must be positive
14:10:10 <ehird`> actually.
14:10:18 <oklopol> !bf_text_gen !bf
14:10:20 <fax> !bf_txtgen Hello world
14:10:22 <oklopol> !help
14:10:23 <EgoBot> Huh?
14:10:23 <oklopol> ADSF
14:10:25 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
14:10:27 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
14:10:35 <oklopol> !bf_txtgen !bf
14:11:20 <oklopol> ...
14:11:25 <EgoBot> 44 +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>><<<<-]>.>-.++++. [332]
14:11:27 <fax> !bf >++++[<++++++++>-]<+.>++++++++[<++++++++>-]<+.++++.
14:11:27 <EgoBot> 104 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++><<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------. [767]
14:11:29 <EgoBot> !bf
14:11:31 <fax> grr
14:11:43 <oklopol> !bf +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>><<<<-]>.>-.++++.
14:11:47 <EgoBot> !bf
14:12:27 <ehird`> oklopol: use %bf instead of !bf
14:12:28 <oklopol> hmm, actually you can probably use the code to produce the actual source code characters to reduce that into some 15 characters
14:12:28 <fax> !bf >++++++[<++++++>-]<+.>++++++[<++++++++++>-]<+.++++.>+++++++[<---------->-]<.+.>++++++++[<++++++++>-]<+.++++.>+++++++[<---------->-]<.+++++.>++++++[<++++++++++>-]<+.++++.>+++++++[<---------->-]<.+.>++++++++[<++++++++>-]<+.++++.>+++++++[<---------->-]<.>++++++++[<++++++++++>-]<-.
14:12:30 <ehird`> since that's how the loop works
14:12:31 <EgoBot> %bf !bf %bf !bf o
14:12:36 <fax> augh >:E
14:12:37 <fax> that was stupid
14:12:38 <ehird`> look
14:12:45 <ehird`> it's not as simple as "!bf QUINE"
14:12:54 <oklopol> ehird`: 1. you have to do both 2. i'm an idiot, but i'm not *that* stupid.
14:13:06 <oklopol> really, you think i haven't made quine loops?
14:13:16 <oklopol> i have.
14:13:19 <ehird`> (PROGRAM F:) write out "!bf (PROGRAM G)"
14:13:19 <ehird`> (PROGRAM G:) write out "%bf (PROGRAM F)"
14:13:23 <ehird`> it's the extra !bf and %bf
14:13:26 <ehird`> that makes it tricky
14:13:34 <oklopol> please stop that
14:13:55 <oklopol> i was just demonstrating how little code you need to produce !bf and %bf.
14:14:11 <ehird`> right
14:14:15 <ehird`> but you have to incorporate that in the quine
14:14:40 <oklopol> yes, but it is not considerably harder than just writing a quine.
14:15:30 <oklopol> it is a bit harder, but the shortest quine i found is 410 characters, there's still almost 100 characters to use.
14:15:46 <ehird`> ok, show me ;)
14:15:52 <ehird`> except, er, do it in #esoteric-blah
14:15:56 <fax> %bf >++++[<++++++++>-]<+.>++++++++[<++++++++>-]<+.++++.>+++++++[<---------->-]<.+++++++++++.....................................+++.---.............................................................+++.---....+++.>++++[<++++>-]<.>+++[<------>-]<-.......>++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++[<------>-]<-.---------------..........>++++[<++++>-]<+.>++++[<---->-]<-.>++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>++++[<-------->-]<-.--------------.---.+++.
14:15:56 <blahbot`> !bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.++++.>+++++++[<---------->-]<.+.
14:15:59 <EgoBot> %bf !
14:16:02 <oklopol> lol like i could ever make a brainfuck quine ;)
14:16:10 <ehird`> fax: you're approaching it fsat
14:16:22 <ehird`> you just need to make blahbot's output be a program that prints the original input, heh.
14:16:24 <ehird`> so... the hard part.
14:16:27 <oklopol> that was not my point, my point was you can do it in 512 characters, if you can do it at all :)
14:16:27 <fax> hehe
14:16:41 <fax> oklopol: I find that very hard to beleive
14:16:45 <ehird`> how do you make egobot join a channel
14:16:47 <fax> but hey
14:17:04 <fax> only 3^512 possibilities!
14:17:12 <ehird`> let's enumerate them all
14:17:18 <oklopol> 3?
14:17:20 <oklopol> hmm why?
14:17:23 <fax> 3 bits
14:17:34 <oklopol> that's 8^512
14:17:42 <ehird`> no, it's 3, iirc
14:17:50 <oklopol> ...
14:17:58 <oklopol> 8 options for each, 512 characters.
14:18:01 <oklopol> 8^512
14:18:02 <fax> eek
14:18:04 <ehird`> oh
14:18:05 <ehird`> yes
14:18:06 <ehird`> :/
14:18:14 <fax> I keep making mistakes like that today
14:18:23 <oklopol> (2^3)^512 of course
14:18:34 <fax> so yeah
14:18:39 <fax> 8^512 is far too many to check
14:18:47 <oklopol> so is 3^512 :P
14:18:52 <fax> lol
14:18:53 <ehird`> :P
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14:19:59 <oklopol> 1.05^512 might be mappable, if you'd just need a trivial checking operation, however, the checking operator would need to be an oracle ;)
14:20:09 <ehird`> heh
14:20:15 <oklopol> so i don't think brute force is the way in this case
14:20:25 <ehird`> :O
14:20:27 <ehird`> RLY???!1212
14:20:45 <oklopol> yeah, i'm fairly sure
14:21:24 <ehird`> omfgbbq
15:01:06 * SimonRC thinks that the Eureka master password itsn't very secure
15:01:30 <SimonRC> I just found out where the number came from
15:01:35 <SimonRC> 8675309
15:01:37 <SimonRC> sigh
15:02:09 <SimonRC> aha, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060051/trivia
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17:45:27 <RodgerTheGreat> SimonRC: that's really pretty sad
17:46:04 <SimonRC> hm?
17:46:17 <SimonRC> I can help memorising passwords sometimes
17:46:23 <SimonRC> *can't
17:46:29 <RodgerTheGreat> NSF01
17:46:35 <RodgerTheGreat> smashthestate
17:46:40 <SimonRC> I only put it into Google to see if anyone was discussing it
17:46:44 <RodgerTheGreat> will ALWAYS be burned into my memory
17:46:45 <SimonRC> RodgerTheGreat: ???
17:47:01 <RodgerTheGreat> Deus Ex was the greatest game I've ever played
17:49:08 <RodgerTheGreat> the above is a username/password combo used in the first level
17:49:47 <RodgerTheGreat> I even remember some of the passwords from later in the game, which makes replays amusing to watch
17:50:19 <RodgerTheGreat> "how the FUCK did you know the security system's pass was 'reindeerflotilla'?"
19:14:04 <RodgerTheGreat> http://music.machinaesupremacy.com/machinae_supremacy-sidology_3-apex_ultima.ogg <- frickin' awesome
19:24:09 <SimonRC> hh
19:26:02 <RodgerTheGreat> ?
19:30:51 <SimonRC> I was going "heh" at your deu sex anecdote
19:30:55 <SimonRC> *deus ex
19:31:14 <ehird`> deu sex?
19:31:21 <oerjan> freu dianslip?
19:31:37 <ehird`> freudian's lip?
19:31:45 <SimonRC> :-)
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20:02:24 * SimonRC makes dinner
20:02:32 <bsmntbombdood> make me some too
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20:15:27 <ihope> bsmntbombdood: you'll have to give him your address so he can ship it to you.
20:15:49 <bsmntbombdood> might be cold by the time it gets here :/
20:16:43 <oerjan> ship it by icbm. guaranteed hot!
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20:26:36 <ihope> Store it in a vacuum flask!
20:33:02 <ehird`> store it in a vacuum
20:42:21 <ihope> Or that, yes.
20:42:35 <ihope> Might be a little dried out upon arrival, though.
20:43:14 <ihope> (Why doesn't the lid of a vacuum flask also contain a vacuum?)
20:46:53 <ehird`> store it in a black hole
20:46:58 <ehird`> only problem: getting it out again
20:47:06 <bsmntbombdood> ihope: too hard probably
20:47:19 <bsmntbombdood> mehthinks i'll ahve some hot chocolate
20:47:24 <bsmntbombdood> it's all rainy and dark today
20:47:51 <ihope> Pff, it's easy to get stuff out of a black hole.
20:47:55 <ihope> The problem is turning it back into food.
20:48:08 <ehird`> you've got something out of a black hole?
20:48:14 <ehird`> physicists want to see you
20:48:35 <ihope> What, Hawking radiation's been disproven?
20:48:41 <ihope> (Or disproved, if you want to go that route.)
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