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00:43:38 <GregorR> oklopol, ehird: Depends on the price.
00:43:39 <GregorR> I MEAN NO
01:07:43 <psyg5> la
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02:50:31 <Chase-san> heya
02:51:17 <psygnisfive> hoy goys
02:52:18 <Chase-san> Think there are simpler ways to do bitwise and bitshift operations in bf. (I can do bitshift with multiplication and division, but bitwise or and and xor still evade me)
02:53:59 <Chase-san> Anyone have an ideas on how to do the bitwise in bf (even using multiplication division etc)
02:56:37 <Chase-san> aside from the really long way <.<
02:57:02 <Chase-san> (ergo seperating out every bit, checking each bit and then putting it all back togeather again)
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03:06:37 <pikhq> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms
03:06:52 <pikhq> ?
03:08:43 <jayCampbell> bitwise or and and xor
03:09:21 <Chase-san> yes bitwise
03:09:23 <Chase-san> not boolean
03:09:43 <jayCampbell> it was just a fun sentence to parse
03:09:56 <Chase-san> heh thanks
03:11:20 <lament> or and and and xor
03:11:40 <Chase-san> I only had 2 ands
03:11:46 <Chase-san> or and and xor
03:11:54 <lament> that needs commas
03:11:57 <lament> or, and, and xor
03:12:07 <lament> but with three ands, you don't need commas
03:12:07 <Chase-san> comma are writers :)
03:12:18 <lament> "or and and and xor" is perfect english
03:12:30 <pikhq> jayCampbell: | && ^ ?
03:12:34 <Chase-san> hah perhaps so
03:13:24 <Chase-san> pikhq & && | && ^
03:13:40 <pikhq> :)
03:14:45 <psygnisfive> guys
03:14:50 <psygnisfive> does > return true/false or 0/1?
03:14:55 <psygnisfive> in C
03:15:22 <pikhq> true/false, where true=1 and false=0.
03:15:24 <Chase-san> I think 0 and 1
03:15:24 <pikhq> :p
03:15:49 <psygnisfive> ok.
03:15:52 <Chase-san> in C 0=false and >1=true
03:16:10 <Chase-san> you can't do that in some languages (its a nice shortcut though)
03:16:25 <psygnisfive> right
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03:16:39 <Chase-san> not sure what negative values are treated as
03:16:41 <jayCampbell> foo where bar had had had had had had had had had had been the correct response
03:17:20 <psygnisfive> ok you can stop now chase
03:17:26 <jayCampbell> Foo, where Bar had had "had," had had "had had." "Had had" had been the correct response.
03:17:29 <Chase-san> I was already done
03:17:35 <Chase-san> but now you force me to continue on
03:17:36 <psygnisfive> i just needed to know what i asked. :P
03:17:40 <pikhq> Chase-san They're cast to unsigned first.
03:17:43 <psygnisfive> im not programming in c.
03:18:00 <Chase-san> I don't program in c either
03:18:01 <jayCampbell> ruby's idea of false keeps making me grumble
03:18:14 <psygnisfive> which is ruby's idea?
03:18:17 <psygnisfive> nil right?
03:18:18 <Chase-san> I used to though :/
03:18:21 <psygnisfive> t/nil
03:18:24 <psygnisfive> or wa that lisp
03:18:29 <psygnisfive> thats lisp
03:18:33 <psygnisfive> ruby is true/false??
03:19:27 <jayCampbell> nil and false are false
03:19:50 <jayCampbell> -1, 0, empty lists, empty strings .. are all true
03:20:16 <psygnisfive> makes sense
03:20:26 <jayCampbell> basically only useful for checking failed hash matches
03:20:28 <psygnisfive> nil being a non-value
03:20:30 <psygnisfive> and false being false
03:20:34 <psygnisfive> everything else being a value
03:20:36 <psygnisfive> thus true
03:20:39 <Chase-san> I am trying to come up with a neat way to optimize loops in my bf interpreter, but all I can think of is a type of Artificial Nueron, but I don't feel like implimenting that. :(
03:20:41 <jayCampbell> yes
03:21:17 <jayCampbell> except "everything else being an object"
03:21:33 <psygnisfive> everything is an object yes
03:21:36 <psygnisfive> even nil! :o
03:22:02 <jayCampbell> i think you're more correct then, value
03:22:15 <jayCampbell> false and nil are the only non-true concepts without a value
03:22:35 <jayCampbell> hm value isn't even the right word, because they're both valid right-handers
03:22:40 <psygnisfive> yeah
03:22:40 <jayCampbell> anyway
03:22:50 <psygnisfive> they're just falsey
03:23:11 <jayCampbell> earlier i typed: cat = cats.pop.pop
03:23:30 <jayCampbell> the most unintentionally poetic line of my year
03:23:43 <jayCampbell> it just rolls off the tongue
03:24:23 <psygnisfive> cats equals cats pop pop
03:24:49 <jayCampbell> chigga chigga mow mow
03:28:42 <jayCampbell> woggle woggle bow out
03:32:07 <Chase-san> hem
03:34:31 <Chase-san> random question, how do you guys get motivated to work on something you don't really want to work on
03:36:51 <jayCampbell> quit, honestly
03:36:57 <Chase-san> meh
03:37:06 <Chase-san> wish things we're that simple
03:37:52 <jayCampbell> decide you're doing it for other reasons
03:38:02 <jayCampbell> just do one step at a time
03:38:07 <jayCampbell> break the task down into smaller steps
03:38:20 <jayCampbell> determine a reward if you finish
03:38:31 <jayCampbell> collaborate
03:38:41 <jayCampbell> redefine the scope of the project
03:38:46 <Chase-san> I think Ihave read that website
03:38:50 <jayCampbell> hee
03:39:02 <jayCampbell> they're true
03:39:18 <Chase-san> how do you get motivated to do those things?
03:39:18 <jayCampbell> see what sticks
03:39:24 <Chase-san> xD
03:39:30 <jayCampbell> why do you think you want to do the project?
03:39:43 <jayCampbell> do you really want to want to want to?
03:40:03 <jayCampbell> i want to want to want to quit smoking
03:40:15 <jayCampbell> but no more
03:40:49 <Chase-san> heh, not helpful but kay
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05:57:04 <oklopol> mörn
06:03:19 <oklopol> g'pie ->
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09:13:03 <Mony> pl()p
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11:59:19 <Pyramidhead> http://www.redbubble.com/people/butcherbrand/clothing/424598-6-love-machine-9000
11:59:23 <Pyramidhead> Hey >:|
11:59:42 <Pyramidhead> Someone violated the copyright registered trademark patent of the Love Machine 9000 >:|
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12:12:28 <ehird> Pyramidhead: sux
12:12:57 <ehird> <jayCampbell> earlier i typed: cat = cats.pop.pop
12:13:00 <ehird> hah
12:13:22 <oerjan> better than cats.pop.poop
12:15:25 <Slereah> POP POP
12:15:41 <oerjan> popcorn. made from cats.
12:15:56 <Slereah> Nah.
12:16:02 <Slereah> It's pop music, made by cats.
12:16:14 <Slereah> Like "Cat-fu fighting" by Kawaii Kenji
12:16:21 <oerjan> corny pop music, or is that redundant?
12:19:26 <Slereah> It's like
12:19:31 <Slereah> The meow mix song
12:19:36 <Slereah> Meow meow meow meow
12:19:36 <Slereah> Meow meow meow meow
12:19:43 <Slereah> meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
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12:19:46 <oerjan> deep lyrics
12:20:07 <Slereah> Well, the translation is much more deeper.
12:20:12 <Slereah> "I like chicken"
12:20:16 <Slereah> "I like liver"
12:20:21 <Slereah> Or something
12:20:33 <oerjan> i c a cat food commercial?
12:20:59 <Slereah> ...
12:21:04 <Slereah> You never heard the meow mix song? :o
12:21:26 <Slereah> http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=5JuVHCJVYf4
12:21:38 <Slereah> Come on, it was even on the Simpsons!
12:22:24 <oerjan> now i have
12:22:29 <oerjan> i don't watch television
12:22:43 <Slereah> *Neither do I
12:22:49 <Slereah> But I still watch the Simpsons
12:22:52 <Slereah> ON THE INTERNET
12:23:20 <oerjan> also, those weren't cats singing
12:23:41 <Slereah> YOU HAVE A LOT OF CHUTZPAH
12:24:23 <oerjan> i have a lifetime subscription of that
12:24:49 <oerjan> maybe
12:28:47 <oerjan> i refuse to be taken in by catfood commercials unless they're narrated by _real_ cats
12:29:01 <oerjan> i don't want to fooled, no sir
12:29:05 <oerjan> *be
12:29:26 <oerjan> gah that typo was...
12:29:47 <oerjan> something to tell my grandchildren, if i expected to have any
12:43:01 <Slereah> Cats will tell your grand children
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16:34:11 <ehird> Hi ais523 .
16:35:08 <ais523> hi ehird
16:41:42 <GregorR> I don't trust canned cat food that isn't made from food cats eat in the wild.
16:41:57 <GregorR> I still want to find the roach and spider bits in rat gravy cat food.
16:42:00 <GregorR> I'm sure Tia would love it.
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17:36:28 <_ehird> a
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17:58:03 <jayCampbell> random brainfuck code generators tend to create ABBA as their first recognizeable output, fyi
17:58:14 <jayCampbell> several million iterations later
17:58:34 <Slereah> ABBA?
17:58:43 <Slereah> Like... Dancing Queen? :o
18:00:33 <Mony> ABBA like.... Mony Mony Mony, must be funny
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18:08:05 <ehird> jayCampbell: haha, why?
18:08:27 <ais523> optbot!
18:08:30 <ais523> optbot?
18:08:35 <ais523> +ul (thutubot, you here?)S
18:08:35 <thutubot> thutubot, you here?
18:08:37 <ehird> bah
18:08:39 <ehird> someone restart it
18:08:56 <oerjan> wherefore art thou, optbot?
18:10:53 <jayCampbell> ehird, to test bf interpreters .. bff4 is fast but has poor bounds checking f'rinstance
18:10:59 <jayCampbell> lots of segfaults
18:11:21 <jayCampbell> this is for the genetic breeding harness
18:11:58 <ehird> jayCampbell: i mean
18:12:01 <ehird> jayCampbell: why do they produce abba
18:12:17 <jayCampbell> near the front of the alphabet
18:12:33 <ehird> true
18:12:35 <ehird> but why abba in particular?
18:12:37 <jayCampbell> as soon as you hit A, print, increment, print, print, decrement, print
18:12:48 <ehird> ah
18:12:53 <jayCampbell> as opposed to the operations required to print QWERTY
18:13:02 <ehird> jayCampbell: surely A should be printed first
18:13:40 <jayCampbell> it especially pops after sort|uniq
18:13:47 <jayCampbell> since the output of so many of these runs is identical
18:14:01 <jayCampbell> infinite stream of nulls is common
18:14:49 <jayCampbell> in the end i'll probably base this on the python bf interpreter so the harness doesn't have to boot a separate interpreter process
18:15:05 <jayCampbell> and i'll be able to add in cycle and output limits
18:16:35 <jayCampbell> trying to decide whether to make the programmer create his fitness tests in bf
18:16:53 <jayCampbell> seems .. mean
18:20:53 <ehird> jayCampbell: how does your generator work?
18:21:01 <ehird> just pick +-,.<> or loop?
18:21:10 <ehird> and then stick those in, for a loop stick [, random prorgam, ]?
18:21:16 <ehird> and then stop randomly?
18:26:59 <jayCampbell> basically
18:28:51 <jayCampbell> the last batch had no input and a loop depth limit of 1
18:44:34 <jayCampbell> if nothing else, i'm going to brute force useful snippets that use no looping
18:44:56 <jayCampbell> dictionary words, large numbers
18:45:19 <jayCampbell> if that works out i'll try feeding known inputs and make loopless utility functions
18:45:24 <ehird> jayCampbell: i'm going to write a copy of that
18:45:27 <ehird> btw, have you tried bff?
18:45:35 <ehird> its not as fast as bff4 but it's fast
18:45:35 <jayCampbell> the desktop one?
18:45:42 <jayCampbell> not yet
18:45:46 <ehird> it's good.
18:45:47 <ehird> i use it.
18:46:25 <jayCampbell> fast boot is more important than fast execution in this case
18:46:50 <jayCampbell> one of the high level language implementations might give me better overall speed
18:46:56 <ehird> jayCampbell: http://swapped.cc/bf/
18:48:20 <jayCampbell> how well does it handle malformed programs
18:48:31 <ehird> jayCampbell: well, I believe
18:48:47 <ehird> use the makefile that comes with it
18:49:29 <ehird> jayCampbell:
18:49:29 <ehird> % time (echo '['|./bff)
18:49:30 <ehird> bff: no matching ]
18:49:30 <ehird> (; echo '[' | ./bff; ) 0.00s user 0.00s system 77% cpu 0.006 total
18:51:06 <jayCampbell> definitely fewer segfaults
18:51:27 <jayCampbell> come on ABBA
18:51:48 <oerjan> jayCampbell: you may also consider loops with matching <>, then you can calculate the bounds of tape used
18:52:48 <jayCampbell> i won't care unless its output is interesting
18:53:17 <jayCampbell> it can't swamp my machine in the 1 second max i give it
18:53:43 <oerjan> i mean to avoid segfaults
18:53:50 <jayCampbell> true
18:54:17 <jayCampbell> or supply exactly enough input to satisfy the reads
18:54:47 <ehird> jayCampbell: how do you handle timeouts?
18:54:48 <jayCampbell> but the joy of this was just mashing random characters together
18:54:50 <ehird> just run it for <1 second?
18:54:59 <jayCampbell> yeah, thread kill
18:55:05 <ehird> jayCampbell: ah, multithreaded
18:55:06 <ehird> that makes sense
18:55:12 <ehird> you can probably run 30 brainfuck programs for 1 second at once
18:55:16 <ehird> maybe up to 100
18:55:37 <jayCampbell> i'm threading once just for the timeout
18:56:15 <jayCampbell> but yeah, this is way easier than constructing random but valid perl
18:56:45 * ehird writes program
18:56:56 <ehird> jayCampbell: do you do it deterministically, or just random?
18:57:56 <jayCampbell> bf, just random
18:58:29 <jayCampbell> perl, random action, which sometimes means adding matching braces or parens or etc
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18:59:46 <jayCampbell> today's is ruby wrapping bf/bff
18:59:56 <jayCampbell> master = Thread.current
18:59:56 <jayCampbell> slave = Thread.new {
18:59:56 <jayCampbell> system "echo '#{program}' | ./bff |head -c1000 >outputs/#{m} 2>/dev/null"
18:59:56 <jayCampbell> master.wakeup
18:59:56 <jayCampbell> }
18:59:56 <jayCampbell> sleep 1
18:59:58 <jayCampbell> system "killall bff"
19:00:00 <jayCampbell> slave.kill
19:02:35 <oerjan> fungot!
19:02:36 <fungot> oerjan: it has gone down already ( my thermometer has run out of " dogface" advocates atheism. is the same as
19:03:11 <oerjan> fungot: how terrible!
19:03:12 <fungot> oerjan: no man, i'm feeling a bit overall-confused, been implementing oklotalk a bit too oriented towards java's excuse for oo. i learned over the course of two hours.
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19:04:06 <ais523> hi Sgeo
19:04:16 <Sgeo> hi ais523
19:04:19 <oerjan> fungot: i'm sure oklopol wouldn't recommend that
19:04:19 <fungot> oerjan: sounds quite interesting
19:13:12 <AnMaster> ais523, hi
19:13:16 <AnMaster> ais523, see /msg
19:13:20 <ais523> I have done
19:16:47 <ais523> summary of the discussion: is setting SIGPIPE to ignore a good idea?
19:18:01 <ais523> 'y,a,
19:18:11 <ais523> is a Funge-98 program that does what the yes command does
19:18:19 <ais523> if I pipe that into head, should it exit?
19:19:15 <ehird> ais523: yes it should.
19:19:25 <AnMaster> yes, it should detect the reflect and exit
19:19:25 <ais523> that's what I think too
19:19:35 <ais523> nope, that program doesn't detect reflections
19:19:37 <ais523> but it should exit anyway
19:19:44 <ehird> exactly
19:19:45 <ais523> why should , reflect when writing into a blocked pipe?
19:19:47 <ehird> it should exit with an error
19:19:52 <ehird> wanna know why?
19:20:17 <ehird> because both python and ruby do it
19:20:20 <ehird> -e:1:in `write': Broken pipe (Errno::EPIPE)
19:20:22 <ehird> and
19:20:23 <ehird> Traceback (most recent call last):
19:20:23 <ehird> File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
19:20:23 <ehird> IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
19:20:46 <AnMaster> "These instructions will act as r does, should the standard output fail for any reason."
19:20:47 <AnMaster> from
19:20:49 <AnMaster> http://catseye.tc/projects/funge98/doc/funge98.html#Stdio
19:20:51 <AnMaster> so
19:20:57 <AnMaster> well, it should reflect
19:21:05 <AnMaster> no the interpreter shouldn't exit
19:21:10 <AnMaster> ais523, :P
19:21:16 <ais523> is that standard output failure?
19:21:22 <AnMaster> ais523, see what I linked
19:21:23 <AnMaster> and yes
19:21:42 <AnMaster> ais523, so doing anything else would break the specs too
19:21:47 <AnMaster> something I'm not prepared to do
19:22:22 <ais523> I had the linked page open before you linked it, by the way
19:22:25 <AnMaster> ais523, also both of ehird's examples,seemed to throw exceptions
19:22:35 <ais523> and ok, that's interesting
19:22:35 <ehird> yes
19:22:40 <ehird> an IOError
19:22:43 <ehird> since the IO, to stdout, failed
19:22:49 <AnMaster> which you could catch right?
19:22:49 <ehird> just like a read from stdin fails after EOF
19:22:52 <ehird> AnMaster: yes.
19:23:02 <AnMaster> ehird, think of reflect as funge exception then
19:23:13 <ehird> then reflect
19:23:19 <AnMaster> yes and that is what the specs say
19:24:23 <AnMaster> ais523, so in summary, that yes program should have been:
19:24:33 <AnMaster> 'y#@,a#@,
19:24:39 <AnMaster> :)
19:25:40 <AnMaster> or.
19:25:41 <AnMaster> 'y#@,# a,
19:26:07 <AnMaster> slightly harder to read
19:26:28 <ais523> and longer, and less useful
19:26:44 <AnMaster> ais523, both those examples are equally long
19:26:59 <AnMaster> from a golfing point of vew
19:27:00 <AnMaster> view*
19:27:07 <ais523> 'y,a, is much shorter
19:27:13 <AnMaster> ais523, well but it is buggy
19:27:21 <ais523> and also correct, that's how you'd write it in C
19:27:31 <AnMaster> ais523, well, but see http://catseye.tc/projects/funge98/doc/funge98.html#Stdio
19:27:32 <AnMaster> :P
19:27:45 <ais523> personally I think writing to a closed pipe isn't output failing
19:27:47 <AnMaster> ais523, I'm not going to change cfunge in a way that breaks the spec
19:27:50 <ais523> that's completely against the UNIX philosophy
19:27:51 <ehird> ais523: yes it is
19:27:53 <ehird> ummm
19:27:55 <ais523> it's output succeeding, just going nowhere
19:27:57 <ehird> your unix philosophy is broken
19:28:04 * AnMaster agrees with ehird
19:28:04 <ais523> and the program that writes is closed in order to save time and processor cycles
19:28:04 <ehird> since that is exactly how it behaves
19:28:07 <ehird> :D
19:28:20 <ehird> AnMaster: how the fuck did you get off my ignore list?
19:28:21 <ais523> ehird: are cat file.txt | head and head < file.txt identical?
19:28:27 <ehird> ais523: yes.
19:28:32 <AnMaster> ehird, no clue, I guess you unignored me
19:28:35 <ais523> no, they aren't, in your interpretation
19:28:36 <AnMaster> I certainly didn't change anything
19:28:39 <ehird> AnMaster: i'm not that idiotic
19:28:54 <AnMaster> ehird, well I didn't change ident or anything
19:28:57 <ais523> because the second one, standard input to head clearly works correctly
19:28:59 <AnMaster> maybe a bug in your client or something
19:29:14 <ais523> the first, standard output from cat, according to you, stops working when head ends
19:29:19 <ais523> it doesn't, it's just that cat is SIGPIPEd
19:29:20 <ehird> AnMaster: no, i was ignoring you via nickname.
19:29:24 <ais523> which is the reason SIGPIPE works
19:29:30 <AnMaster> ehird, well my nick is still the same
19:29:34 <AnMaster> as you can see
19:30:53 <oerjan> ehird: clearly you have been sleepunignoring
19:30:54 <AnMaster> ais523, and no cat file.txt | head and head < file.txt aren't identical. One only uses bash/shell, the other invokes cat
19:31:12 <ehird> <AnMaster> ais523, and no cat file.txt | head and head < file.txt aren't identical. One only uses bash/shell, the other invokes cat
19:31:15 <ehird> ^ not really fucking obvious
19:31:22 <ehird> to a tedious degree. nope
19:31:39 <oklopol> they're different, the latter one doesn't have a "c" for instance.
19:31:40 <AnMaster> but they have the same effect
19:31:53 <AnMaster> oklopol, correct too
19:31:54 <oklopol> whereas in the first one
19:31:59 <oklopol> it's the *first* character
19:32:00 <jayCampbell> depends on your implementation of cat :)
19:32:16 <oklopol> (no, all implementations of cat start with "c", actually)
19:32:20 <AnMaster> jayCampbell, hm where have I seen that name before...
19:32:30 <ehird> AnMaster: he's a b player.
19:32:33 <jayCampbell> are you my one science fiction fan?
19:32:33 <ehird> nomic.
19:32:34 <jayCampbell> oh
19:32:52 <AnMaster> ehird, ah I think I may have had a look at their website once before
19:32:54 <ehird> jayCampbell: AnMaster only ever played one nomic, me/ais523/ihope (defacto founders)'s IRCNomic
19:32:54 <AnMaster> so probably
19:33:02 <ehird> he wasn't very good at it (imo.)
19:33:08 <ehird> so i dunno how he's seen your name
19:33:10 <ais523> ehird: just on the opposite side of the big argument to you
19:33:20 <AnMaster> ais523, thanks
19:33:25 <ehird> ais523: i wasn't talking about that
19:33:26 <ehird> actually
19:33:27 <ais523> oklopol: doesn't the standard C implementation of cat start with #
19:33:38 <ehird> i was talking about how he would oppose every change that wasn't utilitarianly sensible
19:33:45 <ehird> to the highest degree
19:33:50 <AnMaster> ais523, um? It could start with /* I guess
19:33:56 <ais523> I was wondering about that
19:33:59 <AnMaster> followed by BSD or GPL one
19:34:01 <ais523> or // if it was C98
19:34:04 <AnMaster> s/one/header
19:34:07 <oerjan> ais523: just on the opposite side of _every_ argument, Miss Sophie
19:34:07 <AnMaster> ais523, C99*
19:34:11 <ais523> does the standard C implementation of cat have a particular licence?
19:34:14 <oklopol> ais523: no the *name* of every cat starts with a "c"
19:34:15 <ais523> and ok
19:34:17 <jayCampbell> some cats buffer all their input, which can allow more execution to happen than head<foo.txt
19:34:59 <AnMaster> jayCampbell, hm
19:35:07 <oerjan> why does all discussion on this channel turn to cats these days?
19:35:08 <jayCampbell> you'll see it when guys try to reimplement the standard unix command set in scripting languages
19:35:24 <AnMaster> jayCampbell, I know head foo.txt is best ;P
19:35:42 <AnMaster> catz
19:35:47 <jayCampbell> files are old fashioned anyway
19:35:47 <AnMaster> like cat, but mangles output
19:35:53 <AnMaster> to lolcats
19:35:58 <ehird> AnMaster: har har har
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19:36:24 <AnMaster> jayCampbell, hm?
19:36:27 <oklopol> oerjan: why does all discussion on this channel turn to wondering why all discussion turns to things these days these days?
19:36:41 <oklopol> *on this channel
19:37:07 <ais523> ^bf ,[.,]!oh dear, it seems BF has no way to handle SIGPIPE
19:37:07 <fungot> oh dear, it seems BF has no way to handle SIGPIPE
19:37:11 <oerjan> oklopol: why does every snarky comment end up containing stupid typos these days?
19:37:24 <oklopol> oerjan: that makes no sense without a typo
19:37:28 <oklopol> please correct it.
19:37:34 <oerjan> *on this channel
19:37:43 <oerjan> better?
19:37:50 <oklopol> :O
19:37:52 <oklopol> no!
19:37:58 <oklopol> you need to have a typo
19:38:08 <oerjan> but that was your typo too
19:38:19 <oerjan> *typos or brainos
19:38:21 <oklopol> hmm.
19:38:22 <AnMaster> <ais523> ^bf ,[.,]!oh dear, it seems BF has no way to handle SIG <-- what about it?
19:38:33 <oklopol> oerjan: approved.
19:38:38 <ais523> AnMaster: BF cat programs seem to work fine
19:38:40 <AnMaster> brainfuck isn't funge-98
19:38:42 <ais523> and yes
19:38:53 <AnMaster> ais523, so they are unrelated
19:38:58 <ais523> say you're writing a BF interp in funge-98, would you handle reflection in ,
19:39:10 <AnMaster> ais523, you would have to in your , yes
19:39:29 <ais523> how many people check , for reflections in Funge programs
19:39:30 <AnMaster> err
19:39:32 <AnMaster> your .
19:39:35 <ais523> does Mycology, for instance
19:39:38 <ais523> and no, it's , in Befunge
19:39:57 <AnMaster> ais523, well, I don't know who checks it, but I'm not going to break the specs
19:40:06 <AnMaster> I fully agree with ehird there
19:40:13 <oerjan> oh noes!
19:40:22 <oerjan> the universe is collapsing!
19:40:26 <ehird> i'd break the spec if the spec is wrong.
19:40:32 <oklopol> oerjan: stop making a scene!
19:40:34 <oerjan> whew
19:40:34 <AnMaster> well the spec isn't wrong
19:40:43 <ais523> does Mycology check for reflections from ,
19:40:54 <AnMaster> ais523, don't know, but if it doesn't it is it's own issue
19:41:05 <oerjan> oklopol: it was just an apparent agreement between AnMaster and ehird. fortunately it was overrated. only AnMaster thought they agreed.
19:41:32 <AnMaster> ais523, nothing is going to make me break the spec on this issue
19:41:35 <oklopol> yes, which is actually a higher level of disagreement.
19:41:39 <AnMaster> also it would break various fingerprints
19:41:40 <oerjan> so the universe still exists, for the time being.
19:42:24 <jayCampbell> just don't blink
19:42:40 <ais523> the universe will collapse if oerjan blinks?
19:42:45 <ais523> wow, I didn't know oerjan could do that...
19:42:48 <oerjan> too late. are we in a new universe now?
19:42:58 <AnMaster> ais523, no, common misunderstanding
19:43:07 <AnMaster> it will collapse the wave function thingy
19:43:19 <oerjan> ah
19:43:23 <oerjan> indeed
19:43:25 <AnMaster> when he *opens* his eys
19:43:28 <AnMaster> eyes*
19:43:42 <oklopol> my dad's scientist friend said the world actually *oscillates* between the wave form and the particle form.
19:43:58 <AnMaster> oklopol, when you blink?
19:43:59 <oerjan> http://www.mezzacotta.net/singles/collapse_a_wavefunction.php
19:44:22 <oklopol> AnMaster: when you blink too, pretty much all the time.
19:44:27 <AnMaster> oerjan, what if you had javascript off when you clicked and nothing happened?
19:45:08 <oerjan> AnMaster: it requires javascript?
19:45:15 <AnMaster> oerjan, yes
19:45:24 <oerjan> ah yes of course
19:46:21 <ehird> what if you click both buttons simultaneously
19:46:38 <oerjan> AnMaster: i think that means you change from Fermi-Dirac statistics to Bose-Einstein statistics, as your cases then become indistinguishable
19:46:51 <Sgeo> Not sure that that sort of decision is one where there is actually random stuff going on in the brain
19:46:54 <oerjan> try using it to make a laser
19:47:42 <oerjan> oklopol: i think that means you dad's scientist friend is not _particularly_ clever
19:47:46 <oerjan> *your
19:47:50 <oerjan> snarky comment again
19:49:26 <oerjan> or wait the cases are indistuingishable in Fermi-Dirac statistics too, it's just swapping the cases which isn't
19:50:24 <oerjan> ehird: but if you click both buttons simultaneously and nothing happens, that should prove it's Fermi-Dirac
19:50:50 <oerjan> since two identical cases cancel
19:51:37 <oklopol> http://web.petrsu.ru/~alexk/list_of_publications/ <<< dunno if he's clever, but i find this an impressive list
19:51:41 <oerjan> now excuse me while i go recalibrating my death ray
19:52:15 <Slereah> SCIENCE
19:52:40 <AnMaster> oklopol, those seem to be biology/medicine
19:52:43 <oklopol> half of that is parapsychology afaik, but i think there's some serious stuff too
19:52:58 <AnMaster> oh that too
19:53:00 <AnMaster> well
19:53:10 <AnMaster> I wouldn't trust that person
19:53:27 <oklopol> 2.5 Kaivarainen A. Application of Hierarchic Concept of Matter and Wave-Particle Duality Model for Explanation of "Biological" and "Informational" Fields Emergency (paper). Proceedings of the Second Annual Advanced Water Sciences Symposium October 4-6, 1996 Dallas, Texas, USA.
19:53:31 <oklopol> wave-particle duality
19:53:33 <oklopol> that's it
19:53:46 <Slereah> This sounds a lot like pseudoscience
19:54:13 <oklopol> he believes in ghosts, homeopathy, and that speed of light is not the maximum attainable speed.
19:54:24 <oklopol> dunno, i can't raed his writings
19:54:24 <ehird> oklopol: he's an idiot
19:54:26 <oklopol> *read
19:54:35 <ehird> ok, so the last one could be true if all the physics we know is wrong
19:54:44 <ehird> and the former is ...
19:54:45 <ehird> well, it's stupid
19:54:48 <ehird> but it's ... fine
19:54:54 <ehird> but homeopathy is provably bullshit
19:54:57 <Slereah> What happens when a ghost dies?
19:54:59 <AnMaster> ehird, ghosts could be true if everything else we know are wrong as well
19:55:05 <AnMaster> and yeah
19:55:06 <oerjan> Slereah: rebirth. sheesh.
19:55:07 <Slereah> Does it make a ghost ghost?
19:55:07 <AnMaster> I agree ehird
19:55:28 <ehird> AnMaster: Well, what about reasonable (i.e. not creation-science nonsense) christian scientists?
19:55:42 <ehird> they believe in similarly silly stuff, I don't think it makes their _science_ any less reasonable
19:56:13 <ehird> but um yeah that guy sounds like a crackpot
19:56:21 <ehird> Evidence for mobility of immunoglobulins domains obtained by spin-label method.
19:56:26 <ehird> immunoglobulins, man
19:56:48 <Slereah> Well, I'm no doctor
19:56:54 <Slereah> So I won't say anything about this
19:57:05 <Slereah> But I AM BATMAN
19:57:22 <oklopol> hard to say anything really, i don't understand a word of that.
19:58:04 <oerjan> immunoglobulins sounds like it could exist
19:58:20 <oklopol> a swedish scientist recently contacted him about a theory of his about the form of the electron
19:58:38 <Slereah> Is it shaped like a mystical symbol?
19:58:39 <oklopol> said he had made the exact same conclusion in his experiments
19:58:39 <oerjan> == antibodies, says wp
19:58:58 <jayCampbell> you have been educated stupid
19:59:27 <AnMaster> <ehird> AnMaster: Well, what about reasonable (i.e. not creation-science nonsense) christian scientists? <-- I don't know enough about them to be able to answer that question
19:59:31 <jayCampbell> http://timecube.com/
19:59:41 <Slereah> Old
19:59:43 <ehird> jayCampbell: careful, AnMaster will whine for days if you talk about timecube
19:59:53 <jayCampbell> not old, classic and pertinent
19:59:54 <Slereah> That's because he's educated stupid
20:00:04 * AnMaster borrows oerjan's frying pan
20:00:10 <oerjan> hey!
20:00:11 * AnMaster slaps jayCampbell ----###
20:00:24 <oerjan> that's not the frying pan that's the flyswatter
20:00:28 <AnMaster> oerjan, oh
20:00:44 <oerjan> This is the frying pan ===\__/
20:00:45 <AnMaster> that explains why it was so light
20:01:04 * AnMaster borrows the frying pan too and use it on jayCampbell ===\__/
20:01:09 <Slereah> * ===\________/
20:01:17 <oerjan> oh noes
20:01:23 * AnMaster gives oerjan the frying pan and the fly swatter bacjk
20:01:24 <AnMaster> back*
20:02:09 <oerjan> bulked again ===\/\/ :(
20:02:22 <oklopol> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
20:02:31 * ais523 hits oerjan with a smiley :)
20:02:48 <jayCampbell> _ __________=__
20:02:48 <jayCampbell> \\@([____]_____()
20:02:48 <jayCampbell> _/\|-[____]
20:02:48 <jayCampbell> / /(( )
20:02:48 <jayCampbell> /____|'----'
20:02:49 <jayCampbell> \____/
20:02:51 <oklopol> my :------------D's make more damage
20:03:03 <oklopol> is that a gun?
20:03:06 <Slereah> You have a thin penis
20:03:07 <oklopol> hard to say without the spaces
20:03:09 <Slereah> 8======D
20:03:26 <oerjan> Slereah: you have a strange nose
20:03:41 <jayCampbell> you never should have abandoned fixed width fonts
20:03:51 <oklopol> i never abandoned them
20:03:52 * oerjan hasn't
20:04:01 <oklopol> and i never will
20:04:24 <oklopol> non-fixed size fonts make no sense
20:04:27 <jayCampbell> then your irc client is eating spaces
20:04:28 <oklopol> they should be killed.
20:04:31 <oklopol> yes.
20:04:44 <oklopol> my irc client sucks, it's a naughty irc client.
20:04:53 <jayCampbell> that's all i'm sayin
20:04:56 <Slereah> ................................................_,,,,-------,,,__
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20:05:07 <Slereah> ........,/.f,,,,_..`*8r-,.....;......................,&@@@@@@@@@#./
20:05:07 <oklopol> Slereah: so... did you read any of the physics articles?
20:05:09 <Slereah> ......./.,$ `\,...`.-...&..../........................`%@@@@@@@@$#/
20:05:11 <Slereah> .....,/,$--__........`\..../............................#$@@@##@@@@/
20:05:13 <Slereah> ...,/\...`t-,__,;>`..../.........................................;`==.`;@#*
20:05:15 <jayCampbell> . <-- You are here
20:05:15 <Slereah> .,/....`~--~`....-`...................................,--,~#-,.._*`
20:05:17 <Slereah> (..........................................................,....`......,;`
20:05:19 <Slereah> .`\,_.....................................................&`*-,,_-`
20:05:21 <Slereah> .......`-,_................................................./
20:05:23 <Slereah> .............\..................................................|.
20:05:25 <Slereah> No I did not
20:05:27 <Slereah> I'm watching Batman
20:05:40 <jayCampbell> Treasure ------------------ > X
20:05:45 <oklopol> what's that.
20:05:47 <lament> I'm Batman, watching
20:05:49 <ais523> Slereah: is that in latin-1, some of the chars don't come out properly and my client's set to utf-8
20:06:06 <Slereah> Iunno
20:06:25 <Slereah> lament : Actually, in this movie, Batman is watching an old love interest
20:06:28 <Slereah> It's pretty creepy
20:09:32 <lament> heh
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20:14:53 <AnMaster> <jayCampbell> you never should have abandoned fixed width fonts <-- who would have done that?
20:15:12 <Slereah> The jewish plot
20:15:20 <ehird> AnMaster: Me.
20:16:09 <oklopol> ehird: you're stuppit i hate you :<
20:16:16 <ehird> i hate you too oklopol
20:16:23 <ais523> ah, how romantic
20:16:26 <oklopol> i hate you always one more
20:18:34 <AnMaster> anyway whatever it was Slereah posted above is just odd
20:18:43 <AnMaster> what was it supposed to be?
20:18:43 <ehird> facepalm
20:19:03 <AnMaster> the lines doesn't even match up
20:19:09 <ehird> facepalm.
20:19:29 <Slereah> It's not a facepalm
20:19:36 <ehird> looked like one in this font.
20:19:37 <Slereah> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Grieving_Jew
20:19:37 <ehird> oh well
20:19:43 <ehird> heh
20:19:52 <AnMaster> Slereah, what is it with you and yews?
20:20:05 <ehird> yews
20:20:09 <ehird> poor trees
20:20:10 <ehird> D:
20:20:16 <ehird> Yitler. :'(
20:20:37 <AnMaster> Godwin's law.
20:20:42 <AnMaster> (variant)
20:20:47 <ehird> AnMaster: Shut up, yazi.
20:21:13 <ais523> hang on, this is IRC, how do I lock the thread?
20:21:16 <Slereah> Yodwin's law
20:21:20 <ais523> ----------------------------------------- THREAD LOCKED -----------------------------------------
20:21:22 <ais523> there we go
20:21:25 <ehird> YEWS
20:21:25 <ais523> now to talk about something else
20:21:35 <ehird> ais523: yeah, silence the TRUTH ABOUT YAZIS
20:21:36 <ais523> ehird: stop resurrecting dead threads in a new thread
20:21:42 * ehird waits 5 years
20:21:44 <ehird> BUMP
20:21:45 <ehird> YEWS
20:22:01 <ais523> +ul (a):*:*:*:*:*:*(:)~^S
20:22:01 <thutubot> ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ...too much output!
20:22:05 <Slereah> YUDEN
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20:23:02 <Slereah> +ul (Yews)S
20:23:02 <thutubot> Yews
20:23:05 <Slereah> YEWS
20:24:13 <oerjan> your yoke is not funny
20:24:38 <Slereah> I'm no funny egg
20:25:13 <oerjan> eggs don't have yokes, they have yolks
20:25:21 <Slereah> Close enough
20:25:34 <AnMaster> oerjan, what? I use a yoystick not a yoke
20:25:35 <AnMaster> when I fly
20:25:56 <oerjan> on yoyous occasions, i assume
20:25:57 <AnMaster> Slereah, yoke is a control found in aircrafts
20:26:14 <AnMaster> oerjan, nah I'm just a flightsim fan
20:26:27 <Slereah> I did not know that
20:26:27 <AnMaster> so I do it even if it isn't a yoyous occasion
20:26:28 <ehird> yews yews yews yews yews
20:26:34 <AnMaster> Godwin!
20:26:39 <ehird> Yodwin
20:26:42 <oerjan> that's not the orginal meaning of yoke
20:26:54 <oerjan> yokes are for yaks and yoxen
20:27:01 <Slereah> (Yews ):S
20:27:08 <Slereah> +ul (Yews ):S
20:27:08 <thutubot> Yews
20:27:14 <Slereah> Man I'm no good at this
20:27:17 <ehird> +ul ((yews )S:^):^
20:27:17 <thutubot> yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews yews ...too much output!
20:27:18 <AnMaster> oerjan, hm
20:27:29 <Slereah> :D
20:27:30 <Slereah> ehird
20:27:33 <Slereah> I <3 U
20:27:36 <AnMaster> oerjan, http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Ayoke
20:27:39 <ehird> why thank you
20:27:39 <ehird> brb
20:28:01 <AnMaster> oerjan, seems it have lots of meanings
20:29:11 <oerjan> yep
20:33:23 <ais523> wb ais523 again
20:34:01 <oerjan> you do a lot of wobbling
20:35:46 <ais523> routers here are either dodgy, or paranoid, I think
20:36:00 <ais523> it normally takes me about 5 mins to convince them I'm allowed on the network
20:36:18 <oerjan> why not both? </dogbert>
20:40:51 <AnMaster> ais523, hm report the issue?
20:41:15 <oerjan> AnMaster: he is afraid it'll work as well as the doors
20:41:35 <ais523> to who?
20:41:38 <ais523> the University?
20:41:46 <ais523> btw, the Door is broken again, physically this time
20:43:17 <oerjan> maybe try an exorcist this time
20:43:28 <ais523> probably we need a door engineer
20:43:40 * ais523 is amused at how badly you can mess up a door, I mean it's only a door...
20:44:44 <AnMaster> ais523, the door is broken? How did you get in then?
20:45:14 <ais523> there are three doors, all of which lead to different problems
20:45:16 <ais523> there is the Door, the main one
20:45:21 <ais523> which is broken atm
20:45:37 <ais523> then there's the back door, which lets people out any time of day but only in during working hours, that's the one I got in via
20:46:00 <ais523> and then there's the basement door which needs a swipe card to get through in either direction, and most of the time it isn't configured to let anyone through
20:46:55 <oerjan> and then there are the two doors guarded by a knight and a knave
20:47:31 <ais523> I haven't found those yet, but if I do, I should be able to get through easily, I've read most of Smullyan's stuff
20:47:51 <oerjan> ais523: unless they are the xkcd kinds
20:48:03 <ais523> I don't know the xkcd kind of knight/knave door
20:49:13 <ehird> ais523: there is a third person
20:49:16 <ehird> who stabs people who ask tricky questions
20:49:21 <ehird> also, there is no way out.
20:49:27 <ais523> ah, ok
20:50:04 <ais523> anyway, the question "If I asked you if this is a safe door to go through, what would you say?" is a good trick to solve most of the puzzles of that nature
20:50:23 <ehird> hmm
20:50:25 <ais523> and isn't even exactly a tricky question, people do that sort of thing in RL on occasion
20:50:28 <ehird> hah
20:50:30 <ehird> that works
20:50:34 <ehird> you always get the right answer, right?
20:50:37 <ais523> yep
20:50:42 <ehird> clever, cleve.
20:50:42 <ehird> r
20:50:43 <ais523> because if they would lie, they lie twice
20:50:47 <ehird> yeah.
20:50:56 <ehird> i always thought of really complex solutions to those
20:51:28 <oerjan> http://xkcd.com/246/
20:55:37 <Sgeo> http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0327.html
20:58:11 <oerjan> http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0565.html
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21:00:09 <ehird> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=807#comic
21:10:24 <ehird> http://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/7b9gb/be_careful_what_you_wish_for/c066k4b
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21:28:52 <oerjan> oh no, an increment!
21:29:13 -!- ais524 has changed nick to ais523.
21:29:13 <oerjan> what can this mean?
21:29:18 <oerjan> whew
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21:29:40 <ais523> sorry, I accidentally got trapped in a room with some unary operators
21:29:46 <ais523> good thing I didn't hit the bitwise-NOT
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21:30:30 <oerjan> a hex! burn the witch!
21:36:16 <Slereah> And what do you burn apart from witches?
21:39:00 <oerjan> books, small animals, yews...
21:40:16 <oerjan> the occasional orca
21:40:35 <ais523> CDs of open-source operating systems, mostly
21:41:16 <oerjan> that's something everyone can agree on
21:42:45 <Slereah> Heh.
21:42:47 <Slereah> Yews.
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22:32:38 <oklopol> ;)
22:32:57 <Slereah> Psognosfove
22:33:02 <ais523> oklopol: what are you winking at out of the blue?
22:33:30 <Slereah> It's a gay signal, ais523
22:33:41 <Slereah> He's signaling his presence to the gay male, psygnisfive
22:33:59 <ais523> in just two characters? that's pretty golfy
22:34:01 * psygnisfive licks oklopol
22:34:57 <olsner> gay golf? that's a new one
22:35:22 <Slereah> Let's do a "Hello, sailor!" in gay golf
22:36:58 <olsner> I don't think you could get much shorter than oklopol's ";)" though
22:37:22 <oklopol> i just read 3 pages of random bash content, and you made me laugh more without even trying.
22:37:27 <Slereah> Isn't there an unicode penis character?
22:37:31 <ais523> oklopol: bash is working again?
22:37:47 <oklopol> don't know about again, but it's working, yes
22:38:17 <ais523> it was broken for ages
22:38:45 <Slereah> THE STONE AGE?
22:39:00 <Slereah> Bash is pretty infuriating on one point
22:39:10 <Slereah> The number one quote is incredibly lame
22:39:19 <oklopol> link i'm too lazy
22:39:27 <Slereah> http://bash.org/?top
22:39:43 <oklopol> 8|
22:39:56 <oklopol> we've done that multiple times in here, often for multiple pages.
22:40:15 <oklopol> didn't know that was on top
22:40:25 <Slereah> And it is lame
22:40:27 <Slereah> LAAAAME
22:41:22 <oklopol> the next ones are pretty good
22:41:37 <Slereah> They're okay
22:41:45 <Slereah> For some reason, the top quotes are meg
22:41:48 <Slereah> meh
22:43:51 <oklopol> dunno, those are at least theoretically funny, although i didn't exactly laught at them; most of bash it complete utter bullshit that makes me want to eat coal and poop diamonds
22:44:25 <Slereah> Well, then again, is there any moment when you don't feel like that
22:45:51 <oklopol> hmm, good point
22:45:59 <oklopol> but for different raisins
22:46:57 <Slereah> Raisins
22:47:38 <oklopol> yeah i like raisins
22:48:10 <oklopol> ohh looks like it's time to sleap
22:48:11 <oklopol> ->
22:57:38 <jayCampbell> http://shup.com/Shup/78118/screencap-Unnamed-document-4-Inkscape-108104145651.png
22:57:48 <jayCampbell> for http://www.bigzaphod.org/taxi/
22:58:15 <Slereah> Aw :D
22:58:15 <Slereah> Adorable
22:58:26 <Slereah> Much better than that lazy bird logo by that talentless hack
22:58:30 <Slereah> YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE
22:58:40 <jayCampbell> i did the COW linked from there too
22:58:41 <Slereah> Most esolangs lack a good logo
22:58:47 <jayCampbell> this happens when i'm in boring conference calls
22:59:02 <jayCampbell> who's next
22:59:41 <jayCampbell> a languages logo should not have a larger file size than its compiler, documentation and all known example code
23:02:04 <jayCampbell> hee, sean posted the logo already
23:02:56 <ehird> Slereah: Much better than that lazy bird logo by that talentless hack
23:02:56 <ehird> [22:58] Slereah: YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE
23:02:58 <ehird> Slereah: meeeeee
23:02:59 <ehird> :D
23:03:01 <ehird> but i LIKED IT
23:03:23 <Slereah> I tried to make a real logo
23:03:31 <Slereah> From the silhouette of a mockingbird
23:03:35 <Slereah> But I am also talentless :(
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23:04:00 <jayCampbell> inkscape makes it easy
23:07:40 <ehird> jayCampbell: its townsberg
23:07:42 <ehird> not townsville
23:07:43 <ehird> :(
23:08:18 <ehird> yes
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23:22:35 <jayCampbell> doh
23:22:50 <jayCampbell> who's to say it's not BOTH
23:22:58 <jayCampbell> get the townsville mayor on the line
23:23:33 <Slereah> Townsvilole is the sister city of Townsberg
23:23:40 <Slereah> But they program in Brainfuck
23:23:54 <jayCampbell> http://shup.com/Shup/78119/screencap-CDocuments-and-SettingsjayDesktop3code-programming-language-logo.svg-Inkscape-108104152316.png
23:24:07 <jayCampbell> i was going for Jeans and wound up with American McDonald's
23:24:32 <Slereah> What is that logo?
23:24:45 <jayCampbell> yours for a modest fee
23:25:09 <jayCampbell> for http://www.bigzaphod.org/3code/
23:25:19 <jayCampbell> can't help but round out this guy's esolang logo collection
23:25:32 <Slereah> Why would I want to own the logo of a language you made up?
23:25:40 <jayCampbell> not mine
23:33:55 <ehird> jayCampbell: did the townsville people vote obama or mccain?
23:34:01 <ehird> or Mayorpopple The Third
23:34:12 <ehird> Comedy option: Ron Paul
23:34:47 <Slereah> Ron Paul didn't run.
23:35:01 <Slereah> The comedy option is this : http://www.objectivistparty.us/
23:40:33 <ehird> Slereah: write-in ron paul, DUH
23:40:38 <ehird> but yes, objectivist party is hilarious
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23:55:56 <ehird> So. Who here is able to vote in the US, and who voted? :-P
23:56:25 <Slereah> I'm not even in the US
23:56:28 <ehird> Nor I.
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