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00:00:18 <oklopol> i'm not entirely sure i'd have the balls for that job
00:01:40 <cheater00> i think i'd do it
00:01:50 <cheater00> except, when i got to the top, i wouldn't be doing my work
00:02:26 <oklopol> you'd just smoke grass
00:02:45 <elliott> clog is down btw
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00:03:35 <cheater00> oklopol: no, i'd probably shag the girl who's my climbing partner. :p
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00:04:13 <oklopol> okay so where i run out of balls, you get an erection
00:04:37 <oklopol> how can a gay be so manly
00:04:57 <oklopol> (remember your promise)
00:05:21 <olsner> oh, the link is that video with climbing the radio tower whatchamacallit?
00:05:33 <olsner> then I don't have to open it since I've already seen it
00:05:48 <olsner> really should put titles on the links
00:06:24 <oklopol> yeah
00:06:27 <cheater00> oklopol: gay what?
00:06:47 <oklopol> you said i can consider you gay if it helps my process
00:07:05 <cheater00> i guess a gay is 1000000x more manly than you then
00:07:23 <oklopol> that's what i said
00:07:25 <cheater00> does that make me as manly as .... GEORGE MICHAEL?
00:07:35 <oklopol> who was that again
00:07:44 <cheater00> a manly man.
00:07:50 <oklopol> let's see
00:09:08 <oklopol> okay he's some sort of human
00:12:23 <cheater00> watch his video "freek" then
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00:20:31 <Sgeo> I'm sure it made sense at one point to call 16-bit color "High Color"
00:21:13 <Sgeo> clog died
00:21:24 <Sgeo> What id I miss since 15:58:07 <oklopol> cheater00: n
00:21:27 <Sgeo> *did
00:22:04 <Sgeo> Also, when's the funeral?
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00:49:54 <perdito> hi
01:02:09 <cheater00> no.
01:02:52 <Sgeo> Hi perdito
01:03:10 <Sgeo> <begins screening>
01:03:15 <Sgeo> perdito, have you been here before?
01:05:28 <perdito> hi sgeo.. yes i've been here once
01:05:39 <Sgeo> Ok <screening done>
01:05:45 <perdito> hehe
01:05:58 <perdito> how are things going?
01:08:34 <perdito> did you manage to find new ways of developing purposeless applications
01:09:54 <perdito> are you human?
01:13:44 <coppro> w/in 11
01:14:45 <perdito> im not very familiar with freenode.net, and interested in c# programming.. can you give me some hints where to start? a chan or sth
01:14:56 <coppro> No, we're not human
01:15:04 <coppro> We are attempting to pass the Turing test
01:15:32 <perdito> check
01:18:17 <perdito> is there a .net channel on freenode?
01:19:53 <coppro> There does not exist to the best of knowledge.
01:20:50 <perdito> a pity
01:21:49 <perdito> thanks anyway
01:24:00 <Sgeo> perdito, try ##csharp
01:24:41 <perdito> k.. thx sgeo
01:24:52 <Sgeo> ys
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02:15:15 <Sgeo> Ah, 16-bit color
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03:00:40 <Sgeo> Tell me I'm not a monster
03:01:33 <Sgeo> Why is http://i.imgur.com/nmoRZ.png more unnerving to me than when I decided to increase pain to max in random norns?
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04:12:19 <pikhq> The mere idea of an ATP decoupler horrifies me.
04:20:50 <Sgeo> pikhq, how more so than that mercury compound?
15:04:00 <elliott_> oklopol has never hard of a flute
18:41:41 <elliott_> Vorpal: SO WHEN'S THE NEXT CFUNGE RELEASE
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18:54:42 <Vorpal> elliott_, no clue
18:55:05 <elliott_> Vorpal: just make a release now :
18:55:06 <elliott_> :P
18:55:45 <Vorpal> <elliott_> oklopol: get some cheapo red/blue 3d glasses <-- I thought about it
18:55:54 <Vorpal> elliott_, well there is still that gcc -O3 issue I had no time to look into
18:56:01 <Vorpal> for recent gccs
18:56:33 <elliott_> i think i have some lying around
18:56:47 <Vorpal> elliott_, I know I don't have any
18:57:09 <Vorpal> elliott_, besides I would need ones that work on top of normal glasses. The cheap paper kind usually doesn't
18:57:29 <Vorpal> at least not for me
18:57:51 <fizzie> Just glue some suitably-coloured filters on top of your regular glasses. (Then you'll see 3D in the REAL WORLD too.)
18:58:01 <Vorpal> fizzie, :P
18:58:24 <Vorpal> I have sunglasses that go on top. Special made for that. Only use them when driving.
18:58:46 <Vorpal> a lot cheaper than getting viewing correcting sunglasses
18:59:23 <fizzie> Yes, I've seen that sort of stuff.
18:59:48 <fizzie> tMy only sunglasses are with the wrong lens strength.
18:59:58 <Vorpal> only issue is that you can't place them too close. Results in condensation issues then
19:00:56 <Vorpal> ehird: doom delayed until tomorrow: http://notch.tumblr.com/
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19:04:09 <elliott_> 3d glasses obtained
19:05:04 <elliott_> Vorpal: ugh, PvP too?
19:05:24 <elliott_> "Like this if you want Notch to drive home and get the keystore and do the update today!!"
19:05:27 <elliott_> fucking sense of entitlement
19:05:51 <Vorpal> elliott_, isn't pvp supposed to be an option?
19:05:56 <elliott_> "We've all been waiting so long for this one feature, and for you to torture us by saying we don't have the update today because of a mild case of absent-mindedness."
19:05:57 <elliott_> oh fuck off
19:06:02 <elliott_> Vorpal: hopefully health is an option
19:06:09 <Vorpal> elliott_, don't think so
19:06:12 <elliott_> Vorpal: I, for one, am prepared to login with an invalid password and hope everything works.
19:06:24 <Vorpal> elliott_, try it now to see if that works
19:06:34 <Vorpal> elliott_, it won't I think
19:06:44 <Vorpal> elliott_, ineiros's server will reject your connect iirc
19:06:50 <Vorpal> standard behaviour
19:06:58 <elliott_> well, let's patch the server! :P
19:07:09 <Vorpal> elliott_, why not check now if it works for you?
19:07:16 <elliott_> yeah it says i'm not premium
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19:07:33 <elliott_> time for 3d
19:07:43 <Vorpal> elliott_, you have 3d glasses?
19:07:45 <elliott_> Vorpal: you logged in?
19:07:46 <elliott_> also, yes
19:07:49 <elliott_> cheapo cardboard ones
19:07:50 <elliott_> but they work
19:07:58 <elliott_> Vorpal: i can mail a pair to sweden if you want :P
19:07:59 <Vorpal> elliott_, I am logged in atm yes
19:08:12 <elliott_> oh man, the colours are so lost
19:08:21 <elliott_> (even without 3D)
19:08:22 <elliott_> in everything
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21:30:52 <Vorpal> fizzie, there?
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21:40:10 <fizzie> Not very.
21:40:30 <fizzie> But partially.
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22:39:24 <Phantom_Hoover_> Dear Debian: stop telling me I have 12 updates available AND THEN NOT FRICKING INSTALLING THEM WHEN I ASK YOU TO.
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22:53:08 <Vorpal> fizzie, found a torchlit cave behind your mountain
22:55:22 <Phantom_Hoover_> :O
22:55:43 <Phantom_Hoover_> Fun fact: That came out as ":POP" when I typed it.
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22:58:51 <Phantom_Hoover_> Vorpal, is it suitable for the starting point for the General Bay? I want to construct it to the west anyway, so...
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23:01:21 <fizzie> Vorpal: Yes, I've visited a few caves that way.
23:01:46 <fizzie> Group-exploring is not really my thing, and since you people keep walking around all the caves, had to look elsewhere.
23:02:32 <fizzie> I think next time I'll just walk for twenty minutes to a randomly picked direction.
23:02:37 <Phantom_Hoover_> fizzie, what awesome things could I put in a giant cuboidal cavern?
23:02:49 <fizzie> Well, "hello world" is pretty typical.
23:02:57 <fizzie> Or so I hear.
23:03:14 <fizzie> You could build the Enterprise; there's been at least two of them already.
23:03:24 <Phantom_Hoover_> That's so BORING!
23:03:27 <fizzie> Alternatively, a giant self-portrait.
23:03:28 <Phantom_Hoover_> I'll build a GCU!
23:03:31 <Phantom_Hoover_> That's easy!
23:03:43 <Phantom_Hoover_> You just build another giant cuboid in the cavern!
23:03:59 <Phantom_Hoover_> I don't think you can do forcefields with redstone, though...
23:05:14 <fizzie> Build a GSV: "between 25 km and 200 km in each dimension" => start with a cave of dimensions in the [25000, 200000] block range. (Of course height-wise you only have something like 120 metres to work with, sooo...)
23:06:46 <Phantom_Hoover_> Well, Culture ships aren't physically that big; most of that size is field enclosures.
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23:07:37 <Phantom_Hoover_> Although IIRC they're still several kilometres high, so...
23:08:35 <Sgeo> <3 Tuesdays
23:09:00 <Phantom_Hoover_> Also, in any case they are, to quote Banks himself, "shoeboxes with the corners rounded off", so the actual *construction* would be pretty easy.
23:09:19 <olsner> Sgeo: me too! tuesdays are easily the most productive day of the week for me
23:09:37 <Sgeo> In my case, it's less about productivity...
23:09:44 <Phantom_Hoover_> fizzie, I didn't know you'd read the Culture series...
23:09:58 <Sgeo> And this is where elliott_ starts claiming that I have insane hormones
23:10:08 <olsner> monday is spent waking up, thursdays are spent pining for friday and friday is spent pining for the weekend, wednesday is just meh in the middle
23:10:09 <fizzie> PH: Yes, but a GSV. "They burst from the last membrane into a great hazy space lit by a yellow-white line burning high above, beyond layers of wispy cloud. ...
23:10:16 <fizzie> ... They were above and aft of the craft's stern. The ship was twenty-five kilometres long and ten wide. The top surface was parkland; wooded hills and ridges separated by and studded with rivers and lakes."
23:10:33 <fizzie> So 25000x10000 blocks and non-trivial to shape.
23:11:19 <Phantom_Hoover_> Well, if we just go for the outer field enclosure...
23:11:19 <Sgeo> I was talking with the girl I for about 2 and a half hours
23:11:33 <olsner> the girl you what?
23:11:44 <Phantom_Hoover_> The girl he talks to, silly.
23:12:01 <olsner> oh, obviously
23:12:27 <fizzie> He talked an unspecified length of time with the girl he did *something* to for 2.5 hours.
23:12:44 <Phantom_Hoover_> fizzie, hmm. Are there any ships which could reasonably fit into a box 120 metres high?
23:12:54 <fizzie> (The preposition was just a guess.)
23:13:35 <fizzie> I don't recall concrete measurements offhand, but probably.
23:14:15 <Phantom_Hoover_> fizzie, oh, Sgeo's adolescent hormones become much more entertaining if you use that interpretation.
23:14:30 <Sgeo> I still haven't asked her out :(
23:14:36 <Sgeo> I'm pretty sure she likes me, though
23:14:37 <olsner> time to sleep anyway
23:15:16 <Phantom_Hoover_> Sgeo, I want to crowbar an AW joke in here but I am too tired.
23:15:20 <fizzie> "The air swarmed with thousands of craft of every type Quilan had ever seen or heard of, and more besides. Some were tiny, some were the size of the Superlifter." I'm not sure if he specified that size. This is Look to Windward, of course.
23:15:32 <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott_, you are more nocturnal. Mock Sgeo for me.
23:15:55 <Phantom_Hoover_> fizzie, how do you have those quotes on hand?
23:16:26 <olsner> fizzie has memorized everything he's ever read, that's how
23:16:27 <fizzie> I may have acquired a collection of a thousand ebooks from somewhere. No idea how it happened.
23:16:33 <Phantom_Hoover_> Ah.
23:16:47 <Phantom_Hoover_> e...books. I ought to try them at some point.
23:17:13 <olsner> it's like movies without sound and without video, just the subtitles
23:17:37 <olsner> of course, the subtitles are more thorough than they usually are in movies, to compensate
23:17:40 <Phantom_Hoover_> olsner, uncultured swine!
23:17:49 <Phantom_Hoover_> I demand satisfaction!
23:17:52 <poiuy_qwert> audiobooks is where its at
23:17:54 * Phantom_Hoover_ slaps olsner.
23:18:01 * Phantom_Hoover_ throws his glove on the floor.
23:18:15 <Phantom_Hoover_> You can meet up with oklopol to discuss duelling.
23:18:33 * olsner picks up the glove, cuts it in pieces and makes a stew
23:19:07 <olsner> I take it you have recently heard about duelling from james may's tv show
23:19:07 <fizzie> "Killer Class [ROU] (200 meters long)" says Wikipedia, in the very encyclopediaic and notable "Ship types (The Culture)" article.
23:19:30 <Phantom_Hoover_> Hmm. So we could fit a small ROU into it.
23:19:54 <Phantom_Hoover_> ROUs are cigar-shaped with two globes at the end, aren't they?
23:20:03 <Phantom_Hoover_> So <120m in height.
23:20:07 <fizzie> I assume this is the royal "we".
23:20:29 <Phantom_Hoover_> Indeed.
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23:20:45 <Phantom_Hoover_> I assume that everyone else is my slave and will do whatever I tell them.
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23:22:07 <Phantom_Hoover_> If I acquire (read: steal) loads of gunpowder I can put TNT cannons in the weapons globes, as well...
23:22:17 <Hiant> Oh god, there is a really prolific spambot messing with esolang...
23:22:48 <Phantom_Hoover_> Has graue been alerted?
23:22:58 <Phantom_Hoover_> Fsck, ais and oerjan are both offline.
23:23:22 <Hiant> No idea, but the username is Ejuzarih.
23:23:57 <Hiant> And it is literally everywhere. It seems to be targeting the first subheading of every page.
23:25:11 <Hiant> Phantom_Hoover_: And it is changing a new page about every minute.
23:25:39 <Phantom_Hoover_> I've alerted graue; now we wait.
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23:26:11 <Hiant> Phantom_Hoover_: Every link it created leads to a Trojan.
23:26:20 <fizzie> Did you use the red telephone?
23:26:34 <Phantom_Hoover_> There's a red telephone?
23:26:43 <Phantom_Hoover_> If it's graue's email, then yes, I have.
23:26:59 <fizzie> No, but there should be. For matters grave.
23:27:22 <Hiant> What interests me is, how is it picking its targets? I dont see any order to its changes.
23:27:32 <Phantom_Hoover_> Random page, perhaps?
23:27:39 <Phantom_Hoover_> MW does make it very easy.
23:28:33 <Phantom_Hoover_> FWIW, the spambot doesn't look very sophisticated; there's just noöne around to stop it.
23:28:47 <Hiant> Phantom_Hoover_: Possible, but it is also creating pages. My guess is that it is doing so according to red links.
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23:34:06 <fizzie> Do the trojan links at least have esolang-related link texts?
23:35:11 <Phantom_Hoover_> Are the trojans written in Brainfuck?
23:35:27 <Phantom_Hoover_> fizzie, thing to put in the General Bay: a redstone BF interpreter
23:35:30 <Sgeo> In order to be dangerous, wouldn't it need...
23:35:35 <Hiant> fizzie: Nope. They all say something like 'Site maintenance, alternate page here'
23:35:46 <Sgeo> Phantom_Hoover_, I've been begging for that, despite not being there
23:35:55 <Hiant> Phantom_Hoover_: I wish...
23:36:01 <fizzie> Spambots nowadays, completely missing that personal touch.
23:36:07 <Phantom_Hoover_> Sgeo, begging for a BF interpreter/
23:36:16 <Sgeo> PH, yes
23:36:36 <Hiant> Sgeo, Phantom_Hoover_: In minecraft?
23:36:43 <Phantom_Hoover_> Hiant, yes.
23:37:03 <Phantom_Hoover_> [[The North would "continue to make merciless military attacks with no hesitation if the South Korean enemy dares to invade our sea territory by 0.001mm", it warned.]]
23:37:26 <Phantom_Hoover_> There's so much hilarious about that 0.001mm.
23:37:50 <Phantom_Hoover_> I mean, did he actually say "one point nought nought one millimetres"?
23:37:59 <Phantom_Hoover_> *nought point
23:38:03 <fizzie> PH: If you can fit the circuitry in the radius that redstone circuits work in, around the player. I think that ALU was already quite big. (But I'm no redstonician.)
23:38:43 <fizzie> Maybe he said "one micrometre", and the article writer was afraid readers don't know the unit.
23:38:52 <Sgeo> Minecraft wiki is under spam attack
23:38:57 <Phantom_Hoover_> fizzie, wait, they don't work after a certain distance?
23:39:01 <Phantom_Hoover_> At all?
23:39:01 <Sgeo> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Redstone_circuits&action=history
23:39:19 <fizzie> So they say.
23:40:14 <fizzie> Hey, it's the same bot?
23:40:36 <fizzie> It must be international "Spam a MediaWiki" day today.
23:41:20 <fizzie> Anyway, "Circuits that are more than ~300 blocks away from your current position will cease to operate due to being on unloaded chunks."
23:41:33 <Phantom_Hoover_> Ah, of course.
23:41:58 <fizzie> Maybe you could have some dedicated brainfuck interpreter observers always logged-on.
23:42:38 <elliott_> back
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23:42:51 <elliott_> <Phantom_Hoover_> Dear Debian: stop telling me I have 12 updates available AND THEN NOT FRICKING INSTALLING THEM WHEN I ASK YOU TO.
23:42:52 <Phantom_Hoover_> Well, if you can fit an ALU into a 600x600 square are, you can fit a BF intepreter into a 600x600x120 volume.
23:42:54 <elliott_> it has to upgrade some before others i think
23:43:07 <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott_, it's been doing this for TWO DAYS.
23:44:34 <elliott_> <Sgeo> <3 Tuesdays
23:44:39 <elliott_> <Sgeo> In my case, it's less about productivity...
23:44:44 <elliott_> on tuesdays, active worlds is FREE!
23:46:31 <elliott_> <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott_, you are more nocturnal. Mock Sgeo for me.
23:46:34 <elliott_> Not tonight I'm not.
23:46:45 <Sgeo> But you already did!
23:46:46 <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott_, MOCK. SGEO.
23:46:57 <Sgeo> Not sufficiently though
23:46:58 <Phantom_Hoover_> Mock his love life!
23:47:05 <Phantom_Hoover_> He wants to be mocked!
23:47:18 <Phantom_Hoover_> Your mockery gives him meaning!
23:48:01 <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott_, incidentally, the wiki is being heavily spamme.d
23:48:04 <Phantom_Hoover_> *spammed.
23:48:22 <Phantom_Hoover_> I wouldn't like to be ais when he gets online...
23:48:49 <elliott_> <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott_, it's been doing this for TWO DAYS.
23:48:53 <elliott_> because stuff is changing a lot
23:48:56 <elliott_> in the last dash before release
23:48:59 <elliott_> :P
23:49:00 <elliott_> joking
23:49:05 <elliott_> Phantom_Hoover_: basically it happens when it has to install or remove new packages, i think
23:49:14 <elliott_> Phantom_Hoover_: just use a bot to revert the wiki
23:49:19 <elliott_> simpler than doing it manually
23:49:42 <elliott_> lol, look at the site it's spamming
23:49:43 <elliott_> http://gonlyourchoicess.com/
23:49:49 <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott_, do you want to hack together a bot interface to a hideously outdated version of MW?
23:50:15 <elliott_> Phantom_Hoover_: Um, you do realise that all the bot APIs basically just use the API interface of MediaWiki, which is solid?
23:50:22 <Phantom_Hoover_> It is?
23:50:25 <elliott_> "Look at history" and "edit this page" has ... not changed.
23:50:34 <elliott_> Phantom_Hoover_: Sure, it's what you get when you see a URL like /w/index.php?title=Foo&action=raw.
23:50:41 <elliott_> You can also specify format and stuff, and do things via POST.
23:50:43 <elliott_> Well.
23:50:48 <elliott_> It's actually /w/api.php or something.
23:50:49 <elliott_> Whatever.
23:50:53 <elliott_> Point is: ...something.
23:51:08 <elliott_> Phantom_Hoover_: Anyway, pywikipediabot should work just fine or whatever.
23:51:12 <elliott_> Failing that, just literally web-scrape the pages.
23:51:16 <elliott_> 10 minute Perl script job.
23:51:43 <elliott_> It, er, quoted our markup: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=EsoInterpreters&curid=2229&diff=19469&oldid=18653
23:52:04 <Phantom_Hoover_> Strange.
23:52:21 <elliott_> Anyway, it has seemingly stopped.
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