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01:19:26 <Sgeo> @tell elliott update
01:19:26 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:19:32 <Sgeo> @tell kallisti update
01:19:32 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:32:34 <kallisti> @tell Sgeo thanks
01:32:34 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:32:50 <zzo38> Finally, I figured out, and wrote down, my and my brother's character's age.
01:33:27 <zzo38> They said, you are enslaved a while and didn't keep track; but I could use the Object Reading spell to figure out the age of anyone if I have an object they own.
01:33:40 <zzo38> But even then, we couldn't do it until we know the age categories for the creatures, which I have done.
01:34:23 <zzo38> The dungeons master told me to calculate 60% of middle age, so I did that.
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02:20:44 <kallisti> > replicateM 3 (Just 2)
02:20:44 <lambdabot> Just [2,2,2]
02:21:07 <kallisti> :t replicateM
02:21:08 <lambdabot> forall (m :: * -> *) a. (Monad m) => Int -> m a -> m [a]
02:21:31 <kallisti> @hoogle Int -> (a -> m a) -> m [a]
02:21:31 <lambdabot> Test.QuickCheck.Arbitrary shrinkList :: (a -> [a]) -> [a] -> [[a]]
02:21:31 <lambdabot> Control.Monad forM :: Monad m => [a] -> (a -> m b) -> m [b]
02:21:31 <lambdabot> Prelude mapM :: Monad m => (a -> m b) -> [a] -> m [b]
02:23:22 <kallisti> > iterate (>>= (+1)) Just 2
02:23:23 <lambdabot> Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: b = m b
02:23:24 <kallisti> > iterate (>>= (+1)) (Just 2)
02:23:25 <lambdabot> Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: b = m b
02:23:35 <kallisti> > iterate (>>= (return.(+1))) (Just 2)
02:23:37 <lambdabot> [Just 2,Just 3,Just 4,Just 5,Just 6,Just 7,Just 8,Just 9,Just 10,Just 11,Ju...
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02:45:24 <kallisti> :t on
02:45:25 <lambdabot> forall b c a. (b -> b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> a -> c
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03:16:41 <zzo38> Should there be a command-line option for FerNANDo to change the PRNG bit to always 1?
03:17:26 <zzo38> (As well as another option to make it always 0)
03:19:30 <kallisti> @hoogle uncurry
03:19:30 <lambdabot> Prelude uncurry :: (a -> b -> c) -> ((a, b) -> c)
03:19:30 <lambdabot> Data.Tuple uncurry :: (a -> b -> c) -> ((a, b) -> c)
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05:08:02 <zzo38> Creatures with larva you need to keep the components separately, but you can still add them to make the total, and age categories can still work
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05:52:04 <kallisti> I hope LogicT is more efficient on mplus than list is.
05:52:11 <kallisti> because I do a lot of that.
05:52:55 <kallisti> I think by deferring construction of the list it reduces the need for multiple concatenations.
05:53:01 <kallisti> if I understand it correctly.
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06:22:35 <kallisti> > 2 + 2 `mod` 5
06:22:36 <lambdabot> 4
06:22:49 <kallisti> > 4 + 2 `mod` 5
06:22:50 <lambdabot> 6
06:22:59 <kallisti> > (4 + 2) `mod` 5
06:23:00 <lambdabot> 1
06:38:19 <kallisti> :t arr
06:38:20 <lambdabot> forall b c (a :: * -> * -> *). (Arrow a) => (b -> c) -> a b c
06:38:31 <kallisti> > arr (+1) (1,2)
06:38:32 <lambdabot> (2,3)
06:38:40 <kallisti> > arr (+1) (9000,9000)
06:38:41 <lambdabot> (9001,9001)
06:42:31 <kallisti> > arr id (9000,9000)
06:42:32 <lambdabot> (9000,9000)
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06:58:56 <Sgeo> Substitute (->) for a, (b -> c) -> ((->) b c) = (b -> c) -> (b -> c) = ($)
06:59:16 <Sgeo> (I was thinking id, but id and ($) are the same anyway except $ is type-restricted)
06:59:42 <Sgeo> > (+1) `id` 5
06:59:43 <lambdabot> 6
07:04:00 <kallisti> ever get that feeling
07:04:04 <kallisti> that what you're describing
07:04:07 <kallisti> is a monad.
07:04:11 <kallisti> when programming in Haskell? :P
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07:05:37 <Sgeo> Why?
07:05:47 <kallisti> because I am right now.
07:09:04 <kallisti> I'm using combinators on functions in order to describe the set of rules a walk across the chess board must follow.
07:09:18 <kallisti> I think it could probably be generalized into something else.
07:14:28 <kallisti> :t join (***)
07:14:29 <lambdabot> forall (a :: * -> * -> *) b c. (Arrow a) => a b c -> a (b, b) (c, c)
07:15:01 <kallisti> @hoogle (Arrow a) => a b c -> a (b, b) (c, c)
07:15:01 <lambdabot> Control.Arrow (***) :: Arrow a => a b c -> a b' c' -> a (b, b') (c, c')
07:15:01 <lambdabot> Control.Arrow second :: Arrow a => a b c -> a (d, b) (d, c)
07:15:01 <lambdabot> Control.Arrow first :: Arrow a => a b c -> a (b, d) (c, d)
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07:23:31 <kallisti> :t (>>)
07:23:32 <lambdabot> forall (m :: * -> *) a b. (Monad m) => m a -> m b -> m b
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07:37:23 <kallisti> diagonalCapture = runWalk . captureDirs . getDiags . startDirFor
07:37:23 <kallisti> where
07:37:23 <kallisti> captureDirs =
07:37:23 <kallisti> uncurry mplus . join (***) (stepWith oneStep captureRule board)
07:37:23 <kallisti> captureRule = ifBlocked `orRule` (followPortal `thenRule` ifBlocked)
07:37:25 <kallisti> getDiags = join (***) (Move c) <<< rotateCW &&& rotateCC
07:37:30 <kallisti> beautiful semi-pointless code.
07:37:57 <Phantom_Hoover> Semi?
07:38:08 <kallisti> I guess naming functions in the chain doesn't count actually.
07:39:02 <kallisti> also I use free variables that aren't functions. I'm sure some contrived purist would say that it's not actually pointfree.
07:39:12 <kallisti> if such a person even exists.
07:39:48 <Sgeo> :t join (***)
07:39:49 <lambdabot> forall (a :: * -> * -> *) b c. (Arrow a) => a b c -> a (b, b) (c, c)
07:40:03 <kallisti> Sgeo: READ AS: apply this shit to both elements in a 2-tuple kthx
07:40:09 <kallisti> at least, that's how I'm using it
07:40:40 <kallisti> because for reason I'd rather do this crap instead of just writing names to my function arguments.
07:40:43 <kallisti> +some
07:42:14 <kallisti> (the above code, btw, defines the moveset for pawns when a capture is available)
07:44:12 <kallisti> > (+1) `mplus` (+2) $ 3
07:44:13 <lambdabot> No instance for (Control.Monad.MonadPlus ((->) a))
07:44:13 <lambdabot> arising from a use of...
07:44:38 <kallisti> > const Nothing `mplus` Just $ 3
07:44:39 <lambdabot> No instance for (Control.Monad.MonadPlus ((->) a))
07:44:39 <lambdabot> arising from a use of...
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07:47:05 <Phantom_Hoover> <kallisti> also I use free variables that aren't functions. I'm sure some contrived purist would say that it's not actually pointfree.
07:47:15 <Phantom_Hoover> You have no idea what pointfree means, do you.
07:47:51 <kallisti> does a vague idea that seems pretty accurate count? I know what it means in the context of Haskell, but I don't understand where the name comes from.
07:48:20 <oerjan> from topology, iirc
07:48:25 <kallisti> yes I know that much.
07:49:27 <oerjan> i think the FP (?) language may have been involved, too
07:49:47 <oerjan> basically you are free to name functions, but not their arguments
07:50:43 <oerjan> formal arguments, that is. you're of course allowed to pass something named as an argument.
07:50:59 <kallisti> yes which is why I say a free variable that's not a function is, in some sense, not pointfree. Perhaps the code I quoted is pointfree but it's written using the arguments of the function that it's defined within.
07:51:36 <fizzie> @. unpl pl \f g (a,b) -> (f a, g b)
07:51:36 <lambdabot> (\ aa f -> (\ p w -> ((,)) (aa (fst p)) (f w)) >>= \ af -> snd >>= \ ae -> return (af ae))
07:51:51 <Phantom_Hoover> :')
07:52:26 <kallisti> > (f *** g) $ (x,y)
07:52:26 <Phantom_Hoover> @. unpl pl \ f g x -> f (g x)
07:52:26 <lambdabot> (\ a b c -> a (b c))
07:52:27 <lambdabot> Ambiguous type variable `c' in the constraints:
07:52:27 <lambdabot> `GHC.Show.Show c'
07:52:27 <lambdabot> a...
07:52:42 <kallisti> > (f *** g) $ (x,y) :: (Expr, Expr)
07:52:43 <lambdabot> (f x,g y)
07:52:57 <kallisti> I think pl missed something...
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07:54:05 <kallisti> oh that's unpl...
07:54:39 <fizzie> In the ideal case, @. unpl pl won't do "anything".
07:54:50 <fizzie> The plain pl isn't exactly readable either.
07:54:52 <fizzie> @pl \f g (a,b) -> (f a, g b)
07:54:53 <lambdabot> flip flip snd . (ap .) . flip flip fst . ((.) .) . flip . (((.) . (,)) .)
08:07:10 <oerjan> as always, @pl knows nothing about arrow functions.
08:09:45 <kallisti> can you add more functions to pl's repertoire?
08:10:01 <oerjan> @list pl
08:10:02 <lambdabot> pl provides: pointless pl-resume pl
08:10:20 <oerjan> seems not
08:11:22 <oerjan> :t uncurry $ flip . ((.) . (,) .)
08:11:23 <lambdabot> The operator `.' [infixr 9] of a section
08:11:23 <lambdabot> must have lower precedence than that of the operand,
08:11:23 <lambdabot> namely `.' [infixr 9]
08:11:33 <oerjan> :t uncurry $ flip . (((.) . (,)) .)
08:11:34 <lambdabot> forall (f :: * -> *) a (f1 :: * -> *) a1. (Functor f, Functor f1) => (f a1, f1 a) -> f (f1 (a1, a))
08:12:02 <oerjan> :t let (.) = (Prelude..) in uncurry $ flip . (((.) . (,)) .)
08:12:03 <lambdabot> forall b a b1 a1. (a1 -> b1, a -> b) -> a1 -> a -> (b1, b)
08:12:16 <oerjan> oops
08:12:20 <oerjan> :t let (.) = (Prelude..) in curry $ flip . (((.) . (,)) .)
08:12:21 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type `(a, b)'
08:12:21 <lambdabot> against inferred type `a1 -> b1'
08:12:21 <lambdabot> In the second argument of `(.)', namely `(((.) . (,)) .)'
08:12:33 <oerjan> er
08:12:52 <kallisti> :t Prelude.flip
08:12:53 <lambdabot> forall a b c. (a -> b -> c) -> b -> a -> c
08:12:56 <kallisti> hth
08:13:17 <oerjan> wat
08:13:43 <oerjan> oh wait duh
08:17:38 <oerjan> :t let (.) = (Prelude..) in flip . (uncurry .) . (.) . (. (,)) . flip (.)
08:17:39 <lambdabot> forall a b b1 a1. (a1 -> b1) -> (a, a1) -> (a -> b) -> (b, b1)
08:18:06 <oerjan> darn
08:22:17 <oerjan> ah
08:22:23 <oerjan> :t let (.) = (Prelude..) in flip $ (uncurry .) . (.) . (. (,)) . flip (.)
08:22:24 <lambdabot> forall a b b1 a1. (a -> b) -> (a1 -> b1) -> (a, a1) -> (b, b1)
08:22:49 <oerjan> SO MUCH SIMPLER
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09:49:05 <fizzie> oerjan: Sure it knows about timed hi... I mean, arrows:
09:49:06 <fizzie> @pl \(a,b) -> (f a, g b)
09:49:06 <lambdabot> f *** g
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09:50:22 <oerjan> darn
09:50:23 <Deewiant> fizzie: I'm pretty sure that's new.
09:50:52 <fizzie> That's very possible.
09:50:58 * oerjan fails at pun recognition
09:51:34 <fizzie> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeKnowsAboutTimedHits if you meant that one, though it's not exactly a pun.
09:51:38 <oerjan> @pl \(a,b) -> (f b, g a)
09:51:39 <lambdabot> uncurry (flip ((,) . f) . g)
09:52:10 <Deewiant> I guess it's not new, it's just very special-cased. :-P
09:53:11 <oerjan> @pl \b a -> (f b, g a)
09:53:12 <lambdabot> (. g) . (,) . f
09:53:49 <fizzie> @pl \(a,b) -> (f a, b)
09:53:50 <lambdabot> first f
09:53:53 <fizzie> @pl \f (a,b) -> (f a, b)
09:53:53 <lambdabot> (`ap` snd) . (. fst) . ((,) .)
09:53:57 <fizzie> Good, good.
09:54:00 <leonid[sunp]> @_@
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16:46:46 <Ngevd> Hello kallisti
16:47:50 <kallisti> hi
16:48:02 <kallisti> can you fix my horrible chebyshev calculating thingy?
16:48:40 <kallisti> I actually don't even know if it works I haven't tested any of this because I am really not even sure how to test Haskell aside from probably using one of those testy things that people use but I don't know how to use those either.
16:49:47 <Ngevd> Link?
16:50:02 <kallisti> http://sprunge.us/UgdA
16:50:07 <kallisti> search chebyshev
16:50:13 <kallisti> ugda
16:50:20 <kallisti> dialect of agda good
16:51:42 <kallisti> actually why don't I just generate an infinite list.
16:53:41 <kallisti> Ngevd: basically I just noted that you can step out N-1 times at both right angles from every cardinal point to get all the points that are N distance away
16:54:04 <kallisti> ....if that makes any sense
16:54:41 <kallisti> then you just tack the diagonals on.
16:55:26 <kallisti> I'm pretty much 99.99999999...% sure that there's a better way that doesn't involve mutability.
16:55:59 <Ngevd> Couldn't you do coord -> Int -> [coord]?
16:56:25 <kallisti> that's basically what I'm doing
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16:56:48 <kallisti> Move is a coordinate + direction, I just kept them together because it's simple.
16:57:16 <kallisti> also it's how my step function works.
16:57:28 <kallisti> I plug this thing into my step function which wants Moves
16:57:36 <kallisti> because direction is important on that one.
16:59:54 <kallisti> Ngevd: oh, also
17:00:09 <kallisti> the way this algorithm works is it pairs the coordinate of the input to every cardinal direction
17:00:13 <kallisti> and then advances that way
17:00:17 <kallisti> so it could be like...
17:00:21 <kallisti> Move -> [m Move]
17:00:25 <kallisti> er
17:00:30 <kallisti> Coord -> [m Move]
17:00:56 <Ngevd> What's the MonadPlus for?
17:01:20 <kallisti> MonadPlus is a subclass of MonadLogic
17:01:34 <kallisti> it's the only "concatenation" I know of.
17:03:17 <kallisti> so to "concatenate" the results of all of these different steps I use msum and mplus
17:04:33 <kallisti> though maybe I actually want >>
17:04:35 <kallisti> I'm not entirely sure.
17:04:40 <Ngevd> Can pieces move to their own location?
17:04:43 <kallisti> no
17:04:51 <kallisti> well...
17:04:58 <kallisti> yes
17:05:06 <kallisti> hmmmmmmm
17:05:20 <kallisti> the directional pieces are supposed to be able to shift direction as a turn.
17:05:26 <kallisti> but this is awfully similar to a "do nothing"
17:07:09 <kallisti> no pretty sure I want mplus
17:07:14 <kallisti> >> would not concatenate lists
17:07:20 <kallisti> and I'm pretty sure LogicT is based on a list.
17:07:53 <kallisti> I think I'll go read that paper associated with LogicT so I can figure out wtf I'm doing. :P
17:09:35 <kallisti> so for all the directional pieces
17:09:39 <kallisti> I'll just add a coord :
17:09:42 <kallisti> to their movesets
17:11:00 <kallisti> I think I'm worrying too much
17:11:12 <kallisti> "oh no it's different from chess" probably doesn't indicate anything too flawed.
17:11:44 <kallisti> Ngevd: is any of this code legible?
17:11:49 <kallisti> I'm not sure why I decided to take this route honestly.
17:11:51 <Ngevd> Not really
17:11:56 <Ngevd> I'm not that great at Haskell
17:12:02 <kallisti> I guess because there's a lot of repetitive tasks to do
17:12:07 <kallisti> so I just make this generalized board walker thing
17:12:54 <kallisti> stepWith (followPortal `thenRule` unlessVisited)
17:13:19 <kallisti> says that when you make a step on the board you want to follow portals, unless you've previously visited them.
17:13:36 <kallisti> stepWith also takes an actual step function, that defines what a step is
17:13:50 <kallisti> the simplest one is forwardStep, which is just a single step forward in whatever direction the move is.
17:14:08 <kallisti> er oops
17:14:18 <kallisti> step (followPortal `thenRule` unlessVisited)
17:14:20 <kallisti> not stepWith
17:14:25 <kallisti> step = stepWith forwardStep
17:15:24 <kallisti> then walkWith is just an iteration of stepWith, that stops whenever its step function or rule function returns an mzero
17:15:24 <oklopol> so it turns out ultimate sets can be RE^RE^RE-complete :o
17:15:30 <oklopol> even from the full shift
17:15:34 <oklopol> isn't that just insane
17:15:35 <kallisti> oklopol: ultimate sets? sounds like a game.
17:15:38 <kallisti> like ultimate frisbee.
17:15:40 <oklopol> :D
17:15:48 <kallisti> also I have no clue what any of that means, sorry.
17:15:54 <Ngevd> kallisti, do you have a chessboard, some matchsticks, some string, and a webcam?
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17:16:05 <oklopol> well the arithmetic hierarcy, just like all quantifier stuff, can be though of as a two-player game
17:16:06 <kallisti> Ngevd: I actually have absolutely none of those things.
17:16:26 <Ngevd> So, you can't play portal chess for realz.
17:16:39 <kallisti> I don't see why I need matchsticks
17:16:45 <kallisti> string would be useful but not strictly necessary.
17:16:50 <Ngevd> Marking direction
17:16:56 <oklopol> the ultimate set of a CA is the set of (infinite) configurations which are limit points of subsequences of orbits, everyone knows that.
17:16:57 <kallisti> basically just need a chessboard and contact with another interested human being.
17:16:59 <Ngevd> For cannons
17:17:03 <kallisti> Ngevd: ah yes. you could use markers for those.
17:17:08 <kallisti> cannons don't have directions actually.
17:17:14 <Ngevd> Do they not?
17:17:16 <oklopol> in the product topology obtained by having the discrete topology on the alphabet
17:17:16 <kallisti> nope
17:17:24 <Ngevd> Matchsticks are not necassary, then
17:17:30 <kallisti> well the queen now has a direction
17:17:36 <Ngevd> Oh yes
17:17:37 <kallisti> and I think most queen pieces are radially symmetrical.
17:17:44 <kallisti> even some bishops are actually.
17:17:55 <kallisti> not every bishop piece used by chessboards has "the notch"
17:18:03 <Ngevd> You could swap the king and queen?
17:18:51 <kallisti> does the king indicate a direction?
17:19:02 <Ngevd> Damn
17:19:05 <kallisti> it has a cross but that's ambiguous.
17:19:11 <Ngevd> They have rotational symmetry order 2
17:19:15 <kallisti> uh, yeah that.
17:19:32 <Ngevd> We need an odd number for unambiguity
17:19:33 <kallisti> not a problem
17:19:42 <kallisti> tape, marker, or any other indicator is not hard to find.
17:19:51 <Ngevd> True
17:20:04 <Ngevd> Do you have a chessboard?
17:20:13 <kallisti> actually the main reason I made the lens directionless intially was because queens don't have a direction
17:20:35 <kallisti> but I think requiring extra physical implements is worth simplifying the game. otherwise you have to kind of awkward explain what's going on.
17:20:58 <kallisti> I think with the cannons no declaration is required.
17:21:12 <kallisti> you just take a piece from the board
17:21:22 <kallisti> and then if your friend is like "wtf" then you explain. :P
17:21:47 <kallisti> but instead of like "I got you diagonally!" "ohhhhh"
17:22:15 <kallisti> it's like "I redirected my cannon laser through this portal and then through this arrow and now your portal is dead"
17:23:58 <kallisti> also I don't think I'm going to do any kind of infinite loop teleporting piece weirdness
17:24:05 <kallisti> like where you can basically make a piece vanish for a while
17:24:22 <Ngevd> But that leaves ambiguity in the game
17:24:45 <kallisti> I'm... sure it can be explained away.
17:24:50 <kallisti> it's explained away in my implementation. :P
17:25:02 <kallisti> you just have to be fluent in Haskell to find it.
17:25:57 <Ngevd> So what happens if you have two portals are around a piece pointing to eachother and one of them moves over the piece
17:26:01 <kallisti> I might special case it later.
17:26:22 <Ngevd> So, what happens?
17:26:51 <kallisti> well...
17:27:13 <kallisti> unless I decide to re-add the infinite loop capture thing (lol needs better name) then the move isn't valid.
17:27:45 <Ngevd> Also, #esoteric-chess-variants isn't used very much
17:27:53 <kallisti> a portal can't transport a piece if the piece has nowhere to go.
17:28:12 <Ngevd> How do arrows move again?
17:28:22 <kallisti> bishoply + any cardinal step
17:28:45 <kallisti> essentially they move like bishops except they can also sidestep into the other square color.
17:28:51 <Ngevd> Okay
17:29:10 <kallisti> should I allow friendly capture?
17:29:21 <kallisti> this has a number of consequences
17:29:38 <Ngevd> Only with cannons
17:29:56 <kallisti> a portal can land on a piece, and thus transport it somewhere, capturing a piece
17:29:59 <kallisti> because it is a valid move
17:30:11 <Ngevd> Hmm
17:30:13 <Ngevd> Yes
17:30:16 <kallisti> if friendly capture weren't possible then the move would be invalid because the capturing piece is friendly to the captured piece.
17:30:31 <kallisti> and that would violate my piece transport rule as described above.
17:31:03 <kallisti> note that
17:31:07 <kallisti> not many pieces can actually capture.
17:31:10 <kallisti> currently.
17:31:12 <kallisti> ...uh, two.
17:31:13 <kallisti> to be precise.
17:31:25 <Ngevd> King, pawn, Ccannon, dcannon
17:31:29 <kallisti> oh
17:31:32 <kallisti> well yes the cannons count as well
17:31:35 <kallisti> I meant capture-by-movement
17:31:42 <Ngevd> Arrow?
17:31:45 <kallisti> not currently no.
17:32:20 <kallisti> also...
17:32:26 <kallisti> things are kind of tricky with pawns.
17:32:42 <kallisti> so like.....
17:33:13 <kallisti> if you were to transport a pawn, then in order to capture a piece on the other side the pawn needs to be facing the correct direction coming out of the portal.
17:33:30 <kallisti> diagonally forward. forward being defined by the pawns color.
17:33:51 <kallisti> :)
17:34:00 <Ngevd> Ooh, tricky
17:34:04 <kallisti> I think that's perhaps unecessarily complicated.
17:34:09 <kallisti> with one n
17:34:30 <kallisti> I mean
17:34:31 <kallisti> it's not
17:34:33 <kallisti> that complicated
17:34:49 <kallisti> but, I am bad at explaining things. So I don't know if I can make these points clear in The Rules.
17:35:37 <kallisti> as long as I like... explicitly define how a pawn works
17:35:52 <kallisti> instead of, say, just saying something like "oh yeah pawns they're like chess"
17:38:09 <kallisti> then there's less ambiguity when I later say "a portal can only move to an occupied square if transporting the piece occupying that square is a valid move"
17:38:25 <kallisti> where I then should probably note how transporting works...
17:38:35 <Ngevd> Would you like a game of portalchess?
17:38:41 <kallisti> hm?
17:38:48 <kallisti> go on.
17:38:55 <Ngevd> Hang on
17:39:15 <kallisti> I think the best way to describe transportation is that the act of transporting a unit is essentially like moving it a single step in the direction of the output portal.
17:39:28 <kallisti> it has to be a valid move.
17:39:30 <kallisti> for that piece
17:39:35 <kallisti> to move in that direction
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17:40:02 <kallisti> so for example, you can only transport a pawn if the output portal is facing the correct direction
17:40:09 <kallisti> otherwise the transportation is not a valid move.
17:40:38 <kallisti> is that a good rule? it seems overly complex. I could remove that restriction
17:41:20 <Ngevd> Yes
17:41:30 <kallisti> ...yes to my question I'm assuming.
17:41:52 <Ngevd> It is a good move
17:41:58 <kallisti> also
17:42:00 <kallisti> it means
17:42:00 <Ngevd> Rule
17:42:01 <kallisti> you can
17:42:01 <kallisti> chain
17:42:04 <kallisti> portal transports
17:42:27 <kallisti> by transporting a portal that then transpots another piece. :>
17:42:29 <kallisti> oh god.
17:42:32 <kallisti> NO
17:42:35 <kallisti> MUST STOP MAKING THESE RULES
17:42:54 <kallisti> I will be unable to distinguish expected and unexpected behavior when testing my implementation.
17:43:10 <Ngevd> Well, do you want to be black or white?
17:44:41 <kallisti> uh how is this going to work.
17:44:53 <Ngevd> I have a chessboard
17:44:55 <kallisti> I'll be black because that's what color I am in my fantasies. :>
17:45:18 <kallisti> (ha ha americans find race funny)
17:45:43 <Ngevd> I have no idea how to start
17:45:59 <Ngevd> King's knight's pawn forward 2
17:46:14 <Ngevd> s/kight/arrow/
17:47:00 <kallisti> this isn't going to work I AM BLIND
17:47:17 <Ngevd> Hmm
17:48:17 <kallisti> I should probably just add some code so that I can move pieces around without doing all the rule calculations
17:48:24 <kallisti> I don't know.
17:48:32 <Ngevd> Or I could Livestream my board
17:49:39 <kallisti> b7 to b6
17:50:10 <kallisti> (queen's side knight's pawn forward 1)
17:50:36 <kallisti> uh...
17:50:37 <kallisti> wait
17:50:37 <Ngevd> I shoot your dcannon with my dcannon
17:50:41 <kallisti> wat?
17:50:47 <kallisti> oh
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17:50:57 <kallisti> I thought you said king's pawn
17:51:08 <Ngevd> I'll give you that again
17:51:09 <kallisti> THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK WHAT IS THIS.
17:52:44 <Ngevd> Just do your move again
17:53:05 <kallisti> f8 to e5 facing southwest
17:53:44 <Ngevd> queenside portal's pawn 1 forward
17:54:55 <Ngevd> How do lenses move?
17:54:58 <kallisti> queens
17:55:01 <kallisti> can't capture currently
17:55:53 <Ngevd> c2c3
17:55:59 <kallisti> right
17:56:14 <kallisti> c1c2 facing south
17:56:18 <kallisti> I'll let you figure out what happens.
17:56:32 <kallisti> er
17:56:32 <kallisti> hm
17:56:39 <kallisti> technically I think I just broke a rule. :P
17:56:53 <Ngevd> That was a silly rule
17:57:09 <kallisti> yes but I don't know how to explain that behavior much better.
17:57:17 <Ngevd> Just play
17:57:17 <kallisti> I guess pawns are a special case.
17:57:22 <kallisti> I did. :P
17:57:31 <Ngevd> b1 e4
17:57:36 <Ngevd> North
17:58:58 <kallisti> e5 facing south
17:59:43 <kallisti> ....it's getting hard to remember everything.
18:00:15 <Ngevd> c3 d4
18:00:33 <kallisti> huh?
18:00:55 <Ngevd> I lost track of it
18:00:58 <kallisti> that's a... pawn right.
18:01:01 <Ngevd> Yes
18:01:05 <Ngevd> That took a pawn?
18:01:18 <kallisti> oh no the pawn should be at like....
18:01:26 <kallisti> oh
18:01:28 <kallisti> yes d4 :P
18:02:10 <Ngevd> Your turn
18:02:11 <Ngevd> :)
18:02:29 <kallisti> hold on while I use my feeble monkey brain to reprocess the entire state of the game repeatedly until I have some sense of what's going on.
18:04:42 <kallisti> e5e4 facing southeast
18:05:31 <kallisti> note that currently there is no overcomplicated direction reorienting
18:05:47 <kallisti> pieces maintain an absolute direction until the player changes it as part of their turn.
18:06:30 <kallisti> uh can I have like... a picture of the board? or something. :P
18:07:43 <Ngevd> C6c5 facing south
18:08:41 <Ngevd> And no
18:08:46 <kallisti> ...
18:08:55 <kallisti> fine I'll just be awesome while completely blind.
18:09:13 <kallisti> b7b6
18:11:11 <Ngevd> How do cannons move?
18:11:16 <kallisti> kingly
18:11:28 <kallisti> they're kind of a glass cannon. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
18:12:35 <Ngevd> c5 facing NE
18:14:19 <Ngevd> bbl, dinner
18:15:37 <kallisti> b8b7 facing southeast also LAME
18:15:48 <kallisti> oh wait
18:15:51 <kallisti> lol
18:15:55 <kallisti> bad idea what am I even doing.
18:16:59 <kallisti> actually no that's not a bad idea.
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18:19:49 <kallisti> wow this game got weird very quickly.
18:25:27 <Phantom_Hoover> Ngevd, for god's sake, stop feeding him.
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18:25:53 <Phantom_Hoover> Just pay him no attention and this will die, rather than constituting half the remaining 'discussion' in the channel.
18:28:21 <kallisti> yes then we can all be silent together.
18:28:31 * kallisti cherishes the day. :')
18:29:38 <Phantom_Hoover> I'd rather that than you speaking another word.
18:30:34 <kallisti> I have a question: why are you so aggressive towards me when I'm practically doing zero harm? I haven't prevented you from idling in the channel as you seem to want to do. The only thing I've done is speak about something when no one else is speaking.
18:30:55 <kallisti> What's the problem exactly?
18:33:27 <kallisti> if you have some kind of legitimate complaint about what I'm doing then I would like to hear it. If a substantial number of people would like me to stop talking about this, then I'll gladly move to another channel of communication. but as it currently stands you're just being a dick for no discernable reason other than the fact that you don't like me personally.
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18:34:52 <ais523> ooh, the bishops are rebelling
18:35:07 <ais523> they don't end up relevantly involved in politics very often
18:35:12 <ais523> and besides, they can be outvoted very easily
18:35:17 <ais523> but it's interesting to see them make a stand
18:35:25 <kallisti> what are they rebelling about?
18:35:49 <ais523> child benefit
18:35:59 <ais523> they don't think it should be included in the government's proposed benefits cap
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18:37:16 <ais523> also, X just restarted for no obvious reason
18:37:28 <kallisti> that's always fun.
18:37:41 <Ngevd> Back
18:37:55 <kallisti> I remember when X used to freeze completely on me for no apparent reason.
18:38:21 <kallisti> Ngevd: I doubt I can keep of track of these game much longer. I just remember that I had an awesome plan that was totally awesome.
18:38:26 <kallisti> *this
18:39:23 <Ngevd> Also, I'd like to remind everyone that #esoteric-chess-variants is a thing in potentia
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18:51:14 <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, kallisti talked.
18:51:50 <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, look. Nobody's talking. It's OK if I spam the channel, then.
18:52:44 <kallisti> yes feel free to write meaningful sentences
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20:55:50 <fizzie> Phew; one more "use of #esoteric logs as data for course exercise session examples" point achieved.
20:56:54 <fizzie> HA HA HA AH
20:57:06 <oerjan> ^ha
20:57:06 <fungot> ha. ha. ha ha. ha ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...too much output!
20:57:48 <fizzie> (This is the first exercise session for the course this year, and the lecturer had promised them there's not going to be any actual assignments, so I prepared a demonstration of sorts.)
20:58:14 <fizzie> Also I wanted something that's tangentially related to the real world, so they can "relate", but couldn't invent anything.
20:58:19 <fizzie> IRC is obvsly the next best thing.
20:58:43 <fizzie> Anyway, I've "anonymized" this by replacing names with numbers, no worries.
20:59:56 <fizzie> http://users.ics.tkk.fi/htkallas/esodemo.pdf if you want to try your luck at deanonymization based on the one (1) example comment I've included of each person by means of "shuf -n 1".
21:00:01 <kallisti> we're all just numbers anyway, man
21:00:05 <fizzie> Uh... use of grep will be considered cheating, though.
21:00:38 <kallisti> I said none of those things.
21:01:00 <fizzie> That is the true; I took the ten most linesome nicks over all my own logs.
21:01:10 <kallisti> ....linesome?
21:01:18 <fizzie> Said-the-most-lines.
21:01:21 <kallisti> oh
21:01:32 <kallisti> I wonder where I'm at on that ranking now.
21:01:52 <fizzie> Three turned out to be one person, and two also another, but that's all right, that just gets nicely illustramated in the PATTERNS of the results slide.
21:02:01 <oklopol> am i one of those?
21:02:04 <fizzie> Also disregard the very last slide, it has nothing to do with anything.
21:02:09 <fizzie> oklopol: You're one of the numbers, yes.
21:02:14 <kallisti> several of the quotes sound elliott-esque
21:02:16 <oklopol> i mean in example comments
21:02:25 <fizzie> oklopol: You're the 1208.
21:02:36 <oklopol> that's what i figured, but wasn't sure
21:02:36 <fizzie> "so, the codomain is the domain of the cofunction
21:02:42 <fizzie> That's what you have said, apparently.
21:02:51 <oklopol> makes sense :d
21:03:05 <Ngevd> I'm none of the examples
21:03:10 <fizzie> oerjan's copyright is also there.
21:03:25 <fizzie> Ngevd: Well, half of them are made of two people, thanks to those serial nick-changers.
21:03:36 <kallisti> 1682 is oerjan maybe?
21:03:45 <fizzie> kallisti: Sadly, no.
21:04:33 <fizzie> I'm probably not revealing any huge secrets if I reveal that all the three red ones (in the table) are instances of elliott, and the two blue ones are Vorpals.
21:06:35 <kallisti> it was a secret to me. :P
21:06:42 <Ngevd> fizzie... serial nick changers!? I'm one of them!
21:07:09 * kallisti is opposite of that.
21:07:14 <kallisti> except for two large nick changes.
21:07:34 <Ngevd> Ngevd, Taneb, Taneb|Hovercraft, Taneb|Kindle...
21:07:36 <kallisti> in revulsion of my past self's naming aesthetics.
21:07:49 <Ngevd> What were you before CakeProphet?
21:08:03 * oerjan isn't sure what he said but he sort of hopes it was 889
21:09:09 <fizzie> oerjan: You are: correct.
21:09:24 <oerjan> yay
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21:09:47 <fizzie> I'm hoping some of the students ask me "what the what sort of channel is this anyway".
21:11:55 <ais523> fizzie: you mentioned the channel to your students?
21:12:20 <ais523> did you not at least check to ensure none of them lived in Hexham first?
21:12:43 * kallisti imagines the commute time from Hexham to fizzie's class
21:12:47 <fizzie> Not yet, but see above: I'm using some #esoteric logs as data in this probabilistic-models demo I have in lieu of actual exercises for the first session.
21:12:50 <kallisti> unless it's an online thing.
21:13:11 <ais523> was 1319 me?
21:13:13 <fizzie> I don't think I'll be mentioning it unless they explicitly ask.
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21:13:24 <fizzie> ais523: Yes, the INTERCAL is a bit of a giveaway.
21:13:25 <ais523> `pastlog I'm not in a mood for non-trivial INTERCAL programs
21:14:03 <ais523> hmm, it's not just the word INTERCAL, but the context it's in
21:14:06 <HackEgo> 2008-07-14.txt:22:09:27: <tusho> <ais523> I'm not in a mood for non-trivial INTERCAL programs
21:14:22 <ais523> wow, that's not the answer I was expecting
21:14:53 <fizzie> 'shuf' got me quite good examples, though I had to reroll a couple when they had "foo: ..." style attribution names in front.
21:15:16 <fizzie> ais523: Actually your initial random sample was too long to fit in the slide, horizontally speaking.
21:15:34 <ais523> heh, do I have a tendency to make unusually long comments?
21:15:59 <fizzie> It wasn't maybe so unusually long, it's more that the slide-font is awfully big.
21:16:05 <fizzie> It was "I use always-on-top a lot for watching people play NetHack in a corner of the screen while doing other things, too".
21:16:30 <fizzie> (I think I did some statistic plots on line length a while ago, though.)
21:16:32 <ais523> that seems like something I would say
21:20:54 <fizzie> Averange line lengths for the same 10 nicks: http://p.zem.fi/nhrv
21:20:59 <fizzie> s/range/rage/
21:21:38 <fizzie> Seems that it's meself that's the odd one out, really. Also I think I need to say something fluffy and needless here in order to not to slide down in the statistics. Oh, this is going to be annoying to keep up.
21:25:38 <fizzie> And the same thing but top-50 and based on post-2010-01-01 data only so that currently active people don't feel left out: http://p.zem.fi/avn8
21:25:53 <fizzie> fungot: You're so longwinded.
21:25:54 <fungot> fizzie: this one ended fnord to nasty spice, tried it and it wasn't me.
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21:29:07 <fizzie> And finally sorted by average line length, too: http://p.zem.fi/57g6 -- it's nice how elliott and elliott_ have ended right next to each other; very dependably standardized comment lengths there. (Though ehird is quite a bit lower down.)
21:29:46 <oklopol> but ehird and alise are right next to each other :D
21:29:56 <oklopol> eerm
21:29:58 <oklopol> alise__
21:30:02 <oklopol> *alise_
21:32:01 <fizzie> CakeProphet/kallisti, ais523/ais523_ and Sgeo/Sgeo_ also only have just one person in-between. And itidus20/itidus21 are neighbours. There must be something in there.
21:32:16 <ais523> CakeProphet = kallisti? I never realised
21:32:38 <fizzie> I was just going by what Ngevd said up there.
21:32:45 <kallisti> oh yes I thought everyone knew by now.
21:33:10 <fizzie> I suppose the hostname cloak is a bit confirmationary, though.
21:33:22 <kallisti> thanks wikipedia
21:33:27 <kallisti> site I haven't logged into for years.
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21:40:59 <oerjan> j-invariant/MissPiggy are also neighbors
21:42:58 <oerjan> er wait
21:43:06 <oerjan> looking at the wrong link
21:44:07 <oerjan> quite far apart in the intended one, actually
21:45:38 * oerjan notes how the top consists of bots, finns and zzo38
21:52:44 <Phantom_Hoover> fizzie, no love for Phantom__Hoover?
21:52:56 <oerjan> heh i noticed that
21:53:01 <oerjan> `? Phantom___Hoover
21:53:08 <HackEgo> Phantom___Hoover ? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:53:13 <oerjan> wat :(
21:53:24 <oerjan> `? Phantom__Hoover
21:53:29 <HackEgo> Phantom__Hoover ? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:53:33 <oerjan> `? Phantom_Hoover
21:53:35 <Phantom_Hoover> OUTRAGE
21:53:37 <HackEgo> Phantom_Hoover ? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:53:40 <oerjan> wtf
21:53:45 <Phantom_Hoover> `ls wisdom
21:53:45 <oerjan> `ls wisdom
21:53:49 <HackEgo> ​? \ ais523 \ augur \ banach-tarski \ c \ cakeprophet \ category \ comonad \ coppro \ egobot \ elliott \ endofunctor \ esoteric \ everyone \ finland \ finns \ fizzie \ flower \ friendship \ functor \ fungot \ glogbot \ gregor \ hackego \ haskell \ ievan \ intercal \ itidus20 \ itidus21 \ kallisti \ lifthrasiir \ mad \ misspellings of croissant \ monad \ monads \ monoid \ monqy \ ngevd \ nooga \ oerjan \ oklopol
21:53:56 <ais523> `? monad
21:53:57 <Phantom_Hoover> WHOEVER DID THIS WILL DIE
21:54:00 <HackEgo> Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
21:54:03 <augur> HackEgo: I WILL KILL YOU
21:54:21 <Gregor> Well, this is some ... errr ... excitement.
21:54:31 <augur> Gregor: why hello
21:54:35 * augur is excited
21:54:36 <oerjan> Gregor: you sound guilty
21:54:40 <kallisti> `? misspellings of croissant
21:54:43 <HackEgo> ​? \ ais523 \ augur \ banach-tarski \ c \ cakeprophet \ category \ comonad \ coppro \ egobot \ elliott \ endofunctor \ esoteric \ everyone \ finland \ finns \ fizzie \ flower \ friendship \ functor \ fungot \ glogbot \ gregor \ hackego \ haskell \ ievan \ intercal \ itidus20 \ itidus21 \ kallisti \ lifthrasiir \ mad \ misspellings of croissant \ monad \ monads \ monoid \ monqy \ ngevd \ nooga \ oerjan \ oklopol
21:54:44 <HackEgo> misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:54:52 <kallisti> ..
21:55:10 <ais523> what was previously at PH's wisdom entry?
21:55:10 <augur> lmfao what
21:55:33 <kallisti> `? esoteric
21:55:36 <kallisti> `? augur
21:55:36 <HackEgo> This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.
21:55:40 <HackEgo> augur took no cakes.
21:55:45 <augur> its true
21:55:49 <augur> i took no cakes
21:55:51 <oerjan> `? monad
21:55:55 <HackEgo> monad ? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:55:56 <Gregor> `? Gregor
21:55:56 <kallisti> good to know.
21:55:58 <oerjan> aha!
21:55:59 <HackEgo> Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
21:56:02 <oerjan> `? Phantom_Hoover
21:56:06 <HackEgo> Phantom_Hoover is a true Scotsman and hatheist.
21:56:18 <oerjan> it's that damn space bug again
21:56:28 <monqy> `? misspellings of croissant
21:56:31 <HackEgo> misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:56:37 <oerjan> i cannot recall it from before. hm.
21:56:48 <kallisti> monqy: ha ha
21:56:55 <oerjan> Gregor: did you very recently change HackEgo to preserve spaces at the end of command lines?
21:57:09 <Gregor> Nope.
21:57:27 <oerjan> because some stuff that i don't recall breaking before, now seems to.
21:57:45 <oerjan> `cat bin/?
21:57:48 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z) \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ cat "wisdom/$topic" \
22:01:40 <oerjan> `? Phantom___Hoover
22:01:43 <HackEgo> Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself.
22:03:44 <oerjan> `? kallisti
22:03:47 <HackEgo> kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity
22:05:07 <oerjan> hm perhaps what happens is that i simply stopped deleting invisible spaces at the end of lines...
22:05:13 <oerjan> *ed
22:05:49 <oerjan> a sign of my becoming a much more relaxed person, i'm sure. although exceedingly slowly.
22:11:12 <kallisti> oerjan: surely
22:11:30 * kallisti has become a /less/ relaxed person as of late. :P
22:13:35 <oerjan> `? finland
22:13:38 <HackEgo> Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus.
22:13:40 <oerjan> `? finns
22:13:44 <HackEgo> Finns are helpful, albeit grossly overpopulated (cf. 'Finland').
22:13:53 <oerjan> `? functor
22:13:56 <HackEgo> Functors are just morphisms in the category of small categories
22:14:05 <oerjan> `? ievan
22:14:09 <HackEgo> ievan is basically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4om1rQKPijI
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22:38:19 * Phantom_Hoover notes that the Finnish lyrics to Ievan Polkka take up about twice the space of the English ones in those subtitles.
22:38:36 <Phantom_Hoover> It's true: Finnish is just English with all the letters doubled.
22:41:26 <oklopol> also english used to have a dot on top of vowels but we took all of them delicious dotties for ourselves.
22:41:36 <fizzie> That video link up there has both English and Finnish lyrics in the description bit; from a quick glance, they'd seem to take about the same amount of letters.
22:42:27 <fizzie> If anything, the English versions seem wider.
22:42:28 <Phantom_Hoover> fizzie, yes, shortly after I resumed watching, the Finnish lyrics became about half as long as the English ones.
22:42:40 <Phantom_Hoover> Banach-Tarski Finnish.
22:45:50 <fizzie> That loop of that thing they loop in the leek thing has managed to take the bit with no actual Finnish in it, unless I misremember.
22:47:22 <oklopol> kurikan kukka
22:49:06 <fizzie> Ja kirikan kuu.
22:49:21 <fizzie> `words --finnish 20
22:49:27 <HackEgo> diakilöltä synapsoiselviytymä satumiisin fundameressä olemiäsi intuhaaviltaneuvot veksuaan lainammustuskä koettumissasi runtalvamme salaisemme riistäni filmaistani ladoksesi paljailemmäksyt pelömmiksemältäkö ihaamilla emältäsi aakintämista manamassanne
22:49:50 <oklopol> wut
22:51:59 <fizzie> And that's not all.
22:52:08 <fizzie> `words --finnish --swedish 10
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22:52:12 <HackEgo> mexiä kuumennelensammattlarinanisemme jourisutt ahdeimpeimma tartymolemass lamaltisfull uportein hybritelemmille entakar härlottavis
22:52:16 <fizzie> (Those tend to be stupid.)
22:52:46 <oklopol> please elaborate
22:53:10 <oerjan> a bit hybritelemmille, those words
22:53:34 <fizzie> It's not my thing, I don't think I should. But it does pretty much what fungot does, except characters instead of words.
22:53:34 <fungot> fizzie: i always have wanted that :d
22:53:56 <fizzie> fungot: Yeah, well, you can code it yourself then.
22:53:57 <fungot> fizzie: what did you type the comma, for example. interoperability is one issue enough for him. :p
22:54:30 <ion> `words --english 20
22:54:34 <HackEgo> Unknown option: english
22:54:50 <fizzie> `run words --norwegian --swedish 20 # these, on the other hand, will probably be just fine.
22:54:55 <HackEgo> nøda snøskjuksjon sinnekropolycker totrollinge telsettinsterlig bygenasjovindning bedömennas kornpens industgörent fasciets horn ramstrivittéernen biopptiverksföret omdel regene utgåndbrat neutbevaktiede anglida rulla utrykarp
22:55:10 <fizzie> It's --eng-something.
22:55:23 <fizzie> `words --eng-all 10
22:55:30 <HackEgo> benken nonpy blado nuainlex coaf meth monorre deloping try are
22:55:41 <fizzie> (There's some other sets.)
22:56:30 <fizzie> oerjan: What's "snøskjuksjon"?
22:57:02 <oklopol> obviously it's snow suction
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22:58:54 <fizzie> `run words --eng-all --finnish 15 # I'm not sure I've seen the Anglo-Finnish combo yet.
22:59:02 <HackEgo> fightenaruit pysyitäjäht histely koteutuven pylxa nistanneyhexasti numan provanair mah wortiltamllenenbera kil näyten maat squa huolia
22:59:03 <oerjan> i'm afraid i don't know a meaning of sjuksjon
22:59:06 <oerjan> er
22:59:11 <oerjan> *i'm afraid i don't know a meaning of skjuksjon
22:59:18 <oerjan> or sjuksjon, for that matter
22:59:33 <fizzie> It sounds sick.
22:59:51 * oerjan swats fizzie -----###
23:00:33 <oerjan> sinnekropolycker sounds like something you don't want.
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23:01:00 <oklopol> mental body accidents
23:01:32 <oerjan> oh right, olycker
23:02:09 * oerjan interpreted kropolycker as something you'd probably see in a microscope
23:02:49 <oklopol> what would that be?
23:02:52 <oklopol> and what's sinne
23:02:56 <oerjan> anger
23:03:12 <oklopol> o
23:03:38 <oerjan> i don't know what it would be, but it sounds like some kind of single-cell organism
23:03:54 <fizzie> Angry single-cell organisms.
23:04:09 <oerjan> no, not angry. causing anger.
23:04:20 <fizzie> Angry!
23:04:45 <oklopol> angerrrrrrrrrrrrrr
23:05:29 <fizzie> fungot: Are you angry? Or hungry? Or... what was that third one again?
23:05:29 <fungot> fizzie: there has been talk of starting up a scheme user's group along the lines of a file
23:05:56 <fizzie> Sounds like the best group.
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23:13:30 <oerjan> `run words --eng-all 100 | xargs -n1 echo | grep gry
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23:13:38 <HackEgo> No output.
23:13:43 <oerjan> shocking!
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23:14:00 <oerjan> `run words --eng-all 1000 | xargs -n1 echo | grep gry
23:14:09 <HackEgo> No output.
23:14:52 <kallisti_> oerjan: I think I might have accidentally invented a ReaderT State monad
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23:15:17 <zzo38> kallisti_: Describe it
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23:19:55 <fizzie> `run words --eng-all 20 | xargs -n1 | sed -e 's/$/gry/' | xargs
23:20:03 <fizzie> Aw, e left.
23:20:04 <HackEgo> czekgry taceaegry maurnegry liltigry xitgry mortigry nyadovgry skadenberagry lientgry regalgry roumegry vesiniegry komugry froygry oreingry categry scionagemoigry naragry isonpoetgry irrotigry
23:20:33 <kallisti_> fizzie: ha, nice.
23:21:23 <fizzie> "If you don't find the gry, you make the gry", is what I always say.
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23:23:20 <kallisti_> categry theory
23:24:36 <monqy> hi
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