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00:00:07 <elliott> BogusForth website (from the Wayback Machine; retrieved on Error: invalid time)
00:00:09 <elliott> getting better
00:00:11 -!- augur has joined.
00:01:10 <elliott> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Sandbox yay
00:02:35 <Friendship> WHOAH the Wayback Machine from R&B&F was actually a "WABAC Machine"
00:02:37 <Friendship> Mind = blown
00:02:52 <pikhq_> Yeah, totally backronymed.
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00:03:11 <Friendship> pikhq_: The acronym doesn't expand to anything, so yeah.
00:03:21 <Friendship> It was just made to look like an acronym but sound like "way back"
00:03:34 <elliott> Wacky Acronym Bullshit: All a Con
00:06:33 <Friendship> Where is the nonsense in our topic from?
00:07:25 <elliott> Friendship: :JUDGE: something or other
00:07:43 <elliott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller
00:09:07 <Friendship> According to Miller's teaching, the addition of hyphens and colons to one's name turns one from an ordinary, taxable human into a non-taxable “prepositional phrase.”
00:09:20 <Friendship> Whoaaaaaaaaaah
00:09:27 <Friendship> I am now GREGOR-FRIENDSHIP-RICHARDS
00:09:52 <elliott> *RICHARDS:
00:10:17 <Friendship> Oh yes, sorry
00:10:48 -!- Friendship has changed nick to GREGOR-FRIENDSHI.
00:10:50 <GREGOR-FRIENDSHI> :(
00:11:00 -!- GREGOR-FRIENDSHI has changed nick to Friendship.
00:11:01 <oerjan> gregor friendsky
00:11:07 <elliott> I think the government should actually have a system whereby you can indeed withdraw from your "legal persona" and be exempt from paying taxes, so long as you give up all possessions of that legal persona and no longer partake in the use of anything ever funded by taxes.
00:11:28 <elliott> All the conspiracy theorists would have to just go off into the wilderness and pick themselves off one by one.
00:12:28 <elliott> oerjan: btw the "external resources link" in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list's TOC is now pointless... as is the "Top of page" one for that matter
00:12:39 <elliott> not sure how to adjust the TOC without it looking uglier though
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00:13:51 <pikhq_> elliott: Highly tempting. I'm not entirely sure if it's actually implementable, but it would be nice to be able to have the crazies just... Not be in our legal system.
00:14:02 <zzo38> Become not human person? But still apply sales tax anyways?
00:14:26 <pikhq_> zzo38: No, they would be exempt from all taxes and exempt from all tax-paid services.
00:14:26 <elliott> zzo38: No, what are you talking about? You can't *buy* things if you don't have a legal person.
00:14:34 <Friendship> zzo38: More like non-person human. And you certainly won't buy things from stores, that needs money and roads.
00:14:39 <pikhq_> This would include the regulated markets.
00:14:44 <elliott> pikhq_: (Note: This would actually just encourage them.)
00:15:09 <elliott> So wait...
00:15:13 <elliott> If Obama doesn't have a birth certificate...
00:15:18 <elliott> Does that mean he doesn't have to pay taxes?
00:15:20 <elliott> WHOA
00:15:45 <pikhq_> elliott: Except their life expectancy would be approximately the same as the life expectancy of early agricultural societies.
00:15:56 <pikhq_> Or, if they're lucky, a particularly incompetent hunter-gatherer band.
00:16:03 <zzo38> pikhq_, elliott, Friendship: You seem to be missing the point I am trying to make. (I mean you are neither human nor person; you need to do a scientific experiment to change something; and then if someone is willing to sell you stuff anyways, you still have to pay sales tax because that is paid by the vendor)
00:16:24 <elliott> It's true, I often miss the points zzo38 tries to make.
00:16:47 <kmc> you're talking about :David-Wynn: Miller
00:16:59 <pikhq_> zzo38: Except they would by necessity be barred from the store, as that is in part a tax-paid service.
00:17:10 <Friendship> kmc: And GREGOR-FRIENDSHIP-RICHARDS:
00:17:12 <elliott> kmc: No, we did that yesterday. Now we're talking about talking about :David-Wynn: Miller.
00:17:19 <kmc> QUANTUM-LANGUAGE-PARSE-SYNTAX-GRAMMAR is the Correct Language, as it is based on fact. There is no ambiguity with anything Quantum, it is purely Mathematical. Have you ever thought of Language being Mathe
00:17:19 <kmc> matical?
00:17:37 <elliott> kmc: You're the one who started us talking about it, to be precise :P
00:17:41 <kmc> yes
00:17:51 <kmc> i was drunk and stoned and reading about :david-wynn: miller
00:17:54 <kmc> and it reminded me of #esoteric
00:17:58 <oerjan> also see topic
00:18:05 <kmc> excellent
00:18:31 <elliott> hey oerjan should i take down the sitenotice or leave it up
00:19:04 <kmc> "what is government if words have no meaning?"
00:19:36 <oerjan> by murphy's law, the wiki won't start breaking until you take it down.
00:22:26 <zzo38> pikhq_: If a window is opened and a bird flies in and knocks over the merchandise, or a meteor from space falls in and breaks the merchandise, neither birds nor meteors pay taxes...... dead people don't pay taxes either (although sometimes there are death taxes)......
00:23:01 <pikhq_> Yes, and none of those make transactions within our legal framework.
00:24:15 <zzo38> But what if a store specializes selling things to dead people? Obviously such a things would be crazy, but philosophically you have to think of it anyways
00:24:23 <pikhq_> Just as a legally excommunicated person couldn't.
00:25:35 <elliott> oerjan: ok i'll leave it up forever then
00:25:44 <oerjan> O KAY
00:25:48 <zzo38> I know some things about excommunication in the Roman Catholic Church but that is different
00:25:50 <elliott> "If a window is opened and a bird flies in and knocks over the merchandise, or a meteor from space falls in and breaks the merchandise, neither birds nor meteors pay taxes" ;; this is beautiful
00:26:11 <pikhq_> zzo38: Yes, I'm merely saying it's analogous.
00:26:32 <zzo38> elliott: Oops, the second comma should be a semicolon
00:26:44 <elliott> That makes it worse though :(
00:27:09 <elliott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language is a mess
00:27:13 <zzo38> But if it is changed to a semicolon then it means what I intended it to mean instead of what it means with two commas which is not what I intended it to mean.
00:28:10 <zzo38> elliott: Then fix it.
00:28:14 <kmc> /nick :k-m:c
00:29:18 <elliott> zzo38: i would but have no idea where to start
00:33:10 <elliott> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brainfuck&diff=prev&oldid=476993420
00:33:13 <elliott> hmm
00:33:18 <elliott> oerjan: what do you think of the assertion that brainfuck doesn't have a tape?
00:33:27 <elliott> "array" seems much less suitable to me, because of the restricted movement patterns
00:34:06 <oerjan> if brainfuck doesn't have a tape, then neither does a turing machine
00:34:46 <oklodol> wikipedia is written by retards, what did you expect
00:35:02 <elliott> oklodol: that edit was made by daniel b cristofani.
00:35:15 <zzo38> Wikipedia is written by people other than retards too, however.
00:35:25 <oklodol> but mostly retards
00:35:29 <zzo38> OK
00:35:32 <oerjan> i suppose one might ask what terminology brainfuck itself uses
00:35:42 <elliott> oerjan: grr, it looks like http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALinkSearch&target=*.archive.org&namespace=0's results include links by the template :(
00:35:55 <oerjan> oops
00:36:04 <elliott> oerjan: oh, wait, easy to fix
00:36:07 <elliott> I'll remove the link from the template temporarily
00:36:26 <elliott> done
00:36:35 <oerjan> btw i've started editing some
00:36:46 <oerjan> from the top
00:36:52 <elliott> gah still didn't help. apparently because of caching
00:36:56 <elliott> oerjan: yes, i noticed :)
00:38:23 * elliott starts from the bottom to avoid conflicts
00:38:28 <oerjan> THANK YOU
00:38:56 <oklodol> editing whta?
00:39:01 <oklodol> *thaw
00:40:46 <elliott> http://esolangs.org/wiki/MechaniQue we need a {{complete mess}} to stick on things like this
00:40:51 <oerjan> elliott: um your removing the link means i cannot see if my edit looks right
00:41:39 <elliott> oerjan: well ok i can put it back
00:41:52 <elliott> done
00:42:26 <oklodol> elliott: what's wrong with MechaniQue? seems more thought out than a lot of stuff in there.
00:42:34 <oklodol> insanely boring naturally
00:45:33 <elliott> oerjan: :D this wayback link is a {{deadlink}}
00:45:38 * elliott fixes it
00:45:49 * elliott considers plugging it into the wayback amchine
00:45:58 <elliott> *machine
00:46:27 <Madoka-Kaname> elliott, is it turing complete??
00:46:52 <elliott> what
00:47:11 <oklodol> the word "it"
00:47:47 <oerjan> hm i think we _don't_ want the template on the EsoInterpreters page.
00:48:04 <elliott> ugh, don't remind me of EsoInterpreters
00:48:09 <elliott> it desperately needs to be maintained by a bot
00:48:34 <elliott> oerjan: btw you haven't been marking your edits as minor :P ...come to think of it, I don't think that actually has any use on Esolang
00:51:27 <oerjan> i didn't think these were minor enough
00:51:38 <oerjan> i guess i could
00:52:29 <elliott> back
00:52:40 <elliott> oerjan: i wasn't complaining, just noting in case you intended to but forgot
00:53:10 <elliott> i've often gone on minor-edit sprees and forgotten to mark them half-way through
00:53:22 <elliott> hmm, EsoInterpreters should really have a better tite
00:53:23 <elliott> title
00:53:36 <oklodol> EsotericTers
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01:00:09 <elliott> oerjan: haha, i clicked to edit a page with the old links
01:00:14 <elliott> and you had already got there before it loaded
01:01:51 <MDude> Esotericist, maybe?
01:02:37 <elliott> MDude: wat
01:03:14 <MDude> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/esotericist
01:03:22 * elliott knows, but isn't sure of relevance
01:03:38 <MDude> <elliott> hmm, EsoInterpreters should really have a better tite
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01:04:06 <MDude> I figures a noun relating to the esoteric could work.
01:04:10 <MDude> *figured
01:04:53 <elliott> [[EsoInterpreters]] is a page on the wiki
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01:05:03 <elliott> it's actually just a matrix or cross-reference of interpreters of esoteric languages in other esoteric languages
01:05:03 <oerjan> elliott: looks like we've met in the middle?
01:05:09 <elliott> but that's a bit too long for a title
01:05:25 <elliott> oerjan: oh, I started doing them slower and semi-randomly because I brb'd for a while and have a headache
01:05:31 <elliott> sorry
01:05:38 <elliott> probably all of them are done now, though
01:06:12 <elliott> looks it
01:08:18 <oerjan> you've checked with that link removal thing?
01:09:05 <elliott> oerjan: well it didn't really seem to work the last time, I think template stuff actually isn't shown
01:09:07 <elliott> but there's a cache
01:09:10 <elliott> so I'll check again later
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01:24:12 <elliott> Ummm
01:24:13 <elliott> I think to the vast majority of the planet, all programming language is esoteric... NERDS!- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 18:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
01:32:07 <oerjan> well it _is_ true.
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01:33:35 <elliott> fsvo esoteric :P
01:34:22 * elliott suddenly realises what he's been doing wrong all this time
01:34:33 <elliott> oerjan: i'm making you an administrator, and putting you in charge of controversial deletion discussions
01:36:01 <elliott> what?
01:36:03 <elliott> not even a single AAAA?
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01:40:47 <Friendship> "Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg" // this is the single most likely name in the history of the world.
01:41:16 <Jafet> My best friend is an Al-Silverburg
01:44:00 <elliott> oerjan: btw you started esointerpreters right
01:47:19 <oerjan> i was away
01:47:26 <oerjan> um and no i don't think so
01:47:32 <elliott> oh, ok
01:47:50 <oerjan> i'd imagine the history page might tell...
01:48:18 <elliott> nthern apparently
01:48:19 <oerjan> Friendship: needs more chinese
01:48:30 <elliott> but you worked a lot on it :P
01:48:44 <oerjan> maybe.
01:49:35 <elliott> http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/appeal2010/bundles.png
01:49:37 <elliott> LET'S GET READY TO BUNDLE
01:52:35 <Jafet> "How to Grow a Unix Beard" INCLUDED FREE, LIMITED TIME OFFER
01:53:01 <Jafet> (free as in beard?)
01:56:31 <elliott> :D
01:58:59 <elliott> "This book collects the writing of Richard Stallman in a manner that will make its subtlety and power clear."
01:59:07 <elliott> If there's one thing I associate with rms, it's subtlety.
01:59:26 <pikhq> Especially his writing.
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02:11:18 <shachaf> elliott: HLEP my battery is running out.
02:11:37 <shachaf> What decision could I have made in the recent past that would be causing it not to run out right now.
02:12:09 <Jafet> Discharging the battery
02:12:58 <elliott> shachaf: Buying another laptop.
02:13:06 <elliott> One with a longer battery.
02:13:23 <shachaf> I'm pretty another laptop's battery would have been shorter.
02:14:43 <elliott> oerjan: [[LOLCODE]] says "This article is a stub, which means that it is not detailed enough and needs to be expanded. Please help us by adding some more information."
02:14:48 <elliott> oerjan: i think we should remove everything after the first comma.
02:15:24 <elliott> ...including the article that follows
02:16:08 <shachaf> elliott: What about the comma?
02:17:17 <oerjan> i think you are joking.
02:18:25 <elliott> oerjan: really?
02:18:31 <elliott> i could do it, you know
02:18:35 <elliott> NOBODY COULD STOP ME
02:20:08 <elliott> I really like that we've somehow established this ritual of implementing Deadfish in a language to be an insult to both the language and Deadfish.
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02:21:50 * shachaf looks up Deadfish.
02:22:42 <shachaf> Why would you waste your breath insulting Deadfish?
02:22:54 <shachaf> It looks like a fine language for exactly the thing that it's meant for.
02:23:08 <elliott> It's a... tributeinsult.
02:23:23 <shachaf> My battery is about to run out. :-(
02:23:31 <shachaf> HLEP ME, elliott
02:23:53 <shachaf> If I become disconnected, the only th#*#@*R$#@NO CARRIER
02:24:11 <elliott> Did you know I woke up at 10 pm?
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02:24:56 <monqy> believable
02:25:45 <elliott> What the fuck just happened to my reputation trail. :(
02:27:27 <monqy> did esowiki happen
02:29:42 <elliott> :'(
02:30:21 <elliott> Oh, it fixed itself.
02:35:36 * oerjan does not think it's an insult to either party
02:39:52 <elliott> oerjan: i refuse to believe the proliferation of deadfish interpreters started because it is a good language
02:44:57 <oerjan> mhm
03:07:29 <MDude> Maybe it started because it's a kind of cool sounding name?
03:09:02 <MDude> http://www.toplessrobot.com/2012/03/optimus_prime_politely_suggests_we_all_go_to_space.php
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03:28:24 <elliott> e
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03:34:55 <monqy> e
03:36:26 <elliott> e
03:36:44 <elliott> welcome to the world's worst ghost containment facility
03:36:51 <elliott> it's a cardboard box
03:37:39 <oerjan> nothing a handful of pentagrams cannot fix
03:40:17 <elliott> no pentagrams
03:40:18 <elliott> only crayons
03:40:26 <oerjan> sheesh
03:40:35 * oerjan draws a pentagram with a crayon
03:40:41 <elliott> no
03:40:42 <elliott> the ghost
03:40:42 <elliott> stops you
03:40:44 <oerjan> HOW HARD CAN IT BE?
03:40:44 <elliott> it says
03:40:46 <elliott> "please don't"
03:40:50 <elliott> "please"
03:40:53 <elliott> "thanks"
03:40:58 <oerjan> ic
03:41:03 <elliott> "i love birds"
03:41:06 <elliott> says the ghost
03:41:20 * oerjan draws a sparrow on the box
03:41:28 <elliott> ghost goes into the box
03:41:28 <elliott> smiles
03:41:30 <elliott> it's happy now
03:41:33 <elliott> world's best ghost containment facility
03:41:39 <oerjan> yay
03:52:04 <elliott> monqy awarded best ghost container prize
03:52:07 <elliott> "accident"
03:52:41 <oerjan> fine, fine, you just make him an admin as well.
03:55:16 <elliott> oerjan awarded best wiki admin
03:55:18 <elliott> "even bigger accident"
03:55:38 <oerjan> yay
03:55:47 <oerjan> "It was all because of hard work"
03:56:26 <elliott> one of these days i'll make oerjan a wiki admin and who will be laughing then
03:59:34 <oerjan> the ghosts. eerily.
03:59:43 <elliott> but they're adorable
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04:24:09 <elliott> oerjan: have yuo ever curated a museum of deer
04:24:21 <oerjan> nope
04:24:33 <elliott> interesting
04:24:34 <elliott> interesting
04:24:34 <elliott> interesting
04:24:35 <elliott> interesting
04:24:48 <elliott> have you ever flew into a barrel while aiming a shotgun at the empire state building
04:25:46 <oerjan> ...no...
04:26:16 <elliott> interesting
04:26:17 <elliott> interesting
04:26:17 <elliott> interesting
04:26:18 <elliott> interesting
04:26:24 <oerjan> food ->
04:26:27 <elliott> have you ever shown the sun's rings to anybody over the age of 741
04:26:50 <oerjan> not that i am aware
04:27:00 <elliott> and finally: have you ever looked fresh turpentine in the eye in summer or spring
04:31:56 <oerjan> i don't think i have ever found the eyes
04:32:03 <elliott> you have passed the test. welcome to the ranks of the wiki administrators.
04:33:15 <elliott> (every time i do this i wonder whether it'll be funnier to make this time the one i actually do it or to wait)
04:39:05 <elliott> ^rainbow ^celebrate
04:39:05 <fungot> ^celebrate
04:39:07 <elliott> ^celebrate
04:39:07 <fungot> \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/
04:39:08 <myndzi> ¦ | | `\o/´ | | | `\o/´ | | |
04:39:08 <myndzi> ´¸¨ /| >\ | >\ >\ /| | /| /`\ /|
04:39:08 <myndzi> /`\ /`¯|_)
04:39:08 <myndzi> (_| |_) (_|
04:39:15 <elliott> ^rainbow \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/
04:39:15 <fungot> \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/
04:39:23 <elliott> myndzi: id like to report a deficiency in ur script.
04:41:44 <elliott> oerjan: can you believe it's 5 am
04:46:05 <oerjan> nope
04:46:11 <oerjan> it's 5:45
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04:49:25 <elliott> oerjan: : /
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05:05:59 <elliott> is considerata a word
05:06:42 <oerjan> given that considerate is, seems likely
05:07:05 <elliott> wiktionary just lists it as latin
05:07:10 <elliott> let's say it is
05:07:11 <oerjan> well obviously
05:07:45 <Madoka-Kaname> \o/
05:07:45 <myndzi> |
05:07:45 <myndzi> /|
05:07:49 <oerjan> desiderata is well-known enough
05:08:31 <elliott> right
05:08:47 <elliott> hm what's the singular of that
05:08:52 <elliott> oh desideratum
06:18:52 <Sgeo> elliott, monqy kallisti (absent) UPDATE
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06:36:08 <monqy> hi
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06:39:39 <elliott> hi
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06:45:14 <elliott> i
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07:10:27 <elliott> @ping
07:10:27 <lambdabot> pong
07:10:30 <elliott> @ping
07:10:30 <lambdabot> pong
07:10:30 <elliott> @ping
07:10:31 <lambdabot> pong
07:10:31 <elliott> @ping
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07:13:49 <elliott_> bye eliot
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07:42:39 <elliott_> can someone buy me an optical drive
07:42:40 <elliott_> thank you
07:44:36 <monqy> whats that
07:45:28 <elliott_> a drive
07:45:29 <elliott_> of opticals
07:47:03 <elliott_> monqy: have you ever been to
07:47:04 <elliott_> the sun
07:47:13 <monqy> no
07:47:46 <elliott_> wow
07:47:50 <elliott_> teach me your ways
07:48:41 <elliott_> please
07:48:51 <elliott_> please
07:48:56 <elliott_> please teach me your ways
07:48:56 <elliott_> thank you
07:48:58 <elliott_> please
07:49:10 <elliott_> why
07:49:12 <elliott_> why aren't you saying anything
07:49:37 <elliott_> i dont understand whats going on
07:49:37 <elliott_> help
07:51:13 <elliott_> monqy has tarred me with the brush of shame
07:51:29 <monqy> hi
07:51:44 <olsner> I had a dream about needing an optical drive
07:53:47 <elliott_> cant fucking stand the wattage on theset hings. said jurtr,
07:54:21 <elliott_> `NO THE SAME FUCKING ERROR NO
07:54:25 <elliott_> how difficult is it to install windows
07:54:28 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: NO: not found
07:55:42 <elliott_> maybe its wine 1.
07:55:43 <elliott_> 4
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07:56:47 <fizzie> elliott_: Have you been "sleeping" lately? (It does not look like it.)
07:57:36 <elliott_> i actually got up at 10 pm
07:57:40 <elliott_> so this is like
07:57:42 <elliott_> uhhh
07:57:51 <elliott_> TIME in the DAYHALF
07:57:54 <elliott_> so there
07:58:05 <elliott_> fizzie: can you buy me an optical drive please
07:58:08 <elliott_> i would like one
07:58:15 <fizzie> NOOOO.
07:58:39 <elliott_> but
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07:58:55 <fizzie> No butts.
07:59:47 <elliott_> but
08:00:32 <Sgeo> (setf *readtable* nil)
08:00:51 <elliott_> but
08:01:31 <elliott_> cries softly
08:04:55 <zzo38> A long time ago I made a clone of MESH:Hero in PHP, called PuzzleMesh, but it is slow, it crashed a lot, and never got completed. I might make new one in C; what should I call it? And what other idea? Some idea of names is "PuzzleMesh", "OSCOEVME" (open source clone of Everett Kaser's Mesh engine), "GOIC" (game of interwoven challenges), "CTHAFTE" (collect the hearts and find the exit), etc.
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08:08:11 <zzo38> Do you have better idea please?
08:08:41 <elliott_> many
08:08:59 <shachaf> elliott_: You know what *really* makes this computer hot?
08:09:13 <elliott_> Radiation?
08:09:21 <shachaf> When I have a rogue chromium process taking 100% CPU.
08:09:25 <shachaf> For $LONG_TIME
08:09:44 <elliott_> my chrmoiums just take up a lot of cpu always and slow things down and im cry
08:09:47 <zzo38> I do intend to omit some features (such as Animate, Level, LevelCount, etc), and implement some features a bit differently to ensure that replay won't be broken and that it won't cause GPF, but also to add a few new features.
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08:13:31 <fizzie> elliott_: See here, you're trusting the future of esolanging to a VPS provider who can't even keep people's bitcoins safe: http://bitcoinmedia.com/compromised-linode-coins-stolen-from-slush-faucet-and-others/ --
08:14:02 <elliott_> NOT THE BITCOINS
08:14:19 <elliott_> "Rest assured: I am covering Linode’s mistake from my own income. That means months of my work is wasted and I’m crushed."
08:14:24 <elliott_> In the second paragraph this guy is already unbearable.
08:15:20 <fizzie> There's also a link to a posting from another dude who lost OVER NINE THOUSAND bitcoins.
08:15:38 <Sgeo> Although the letter from Linode...
08:15:44 <Sgeo> Unless that's faked, that is alarming
08:16:15 <elliott_> "We were alerted to the suspicious activity and have identified and corrected the issue. Our investigation has revealed a customer support interface was used to access your account. The compromised credentials have been restricted and we are discussing policy changes to prevent this from recurring."
08:16:20 <elliott_> meh its not any "real" real security flaw
08:16:29 <elliott_> just privileged credentials getting into the wrong hands
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08:16:52 <Sgeo> It is indicative of the worst security flaw known.
08:17:02 <Sgeo> I believe that the technical term is "Homo sapiens"
08:17:07 <elliott_> deeeeeeeep
08:17:25 <elliott_> man who the fuck is ipv6ing solidity
08:17:28 <elliott_> just tiny little blips on the map
08:18:04 <fizzie> Do you even have any oerjan (aka AAAA) domain names pointing at it?
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08:18:33 <elliott_> fizzie: So 9000 BTC is about $3, right?
08:18:33 <elliott_> (Tomorrow's rates)
08:18:33 <elliott_> http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.html here are teh statement
08:18:36 <elliott_> good thing they're only targetting people who use bitcoin
08:18:40 <elliott_> esolangs.org is fuckin safe
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08:18:49 <elliott_> i pledge never to put any bitcoins on solidity
08:19:00 <elliott_> yr passwords are secure
08:19:08 <elliott_> fizzie: nope i'll have to email THE ALAN DIPERT for that
08:20:35 <fizzie> But how about if you wanted to add some BITCOIN MICROPAYMENTS to the wiki? Like, 0.50 BTC to edit a page; 200 BTC to get a red banner mentioning your page on the Main Page for a day; and so on.
08:20:36 <elliott_> fizzie: mind you i don't like the idea that they have a single auth token that offers global root like that
08:21:46 <elliott_> "About 3 years ago, a budget OpenVZ virtual hosting company with thousands of customers got completely destroyed, all data lost, allegedly because of an unpatched bug in the then-popular HyperVM customer portal. The Indian guy who sold HyperVM committed suicide the next day." whoah
08:23:15 <elliott_> meh unless anyone has any other suggestions as far as providers go i'll stick with linode
08:23:19 <elliott_> not like the wiki db is that sensitive
08:23:22 <zzo38> I did think of a method to transfer money by computer (and even other secure communication channels) in a way which is anonymous and is linked to real cash, and is also limited to your specification, and can cut into as small pieces as you want. For internet, SSH would be used and a set of commands available (and the same commands would be used for internet banking). As far as I know, this has not been implemented.
08:24:25 <fizzie> elliott_: I suggest keeping the server under your bed and not connecting it to a network, then the wiki would finally be safe.
08:24:26 <elliott_> shocking
08:24:35 <elliott_> fizzie: ooh and that would stop people posting bf derivs too
08:24:46 <zzo38> fizzie: But then it would also be unusable.
08:25:12 <elliott_> not like you to object to a perfect but useless solution
08:25:14 <fizzie> There's that; but it's like a win-win-lose situation then, and 2 > 1.
08:25:15 <zzo38> (Unless everyone who wants to use go to your house and can sit under your bed; that is difficult.)
08:25:28 <elliott_> yeah everyone here is welcome to come to my house and sit under my bed to use the wiki
08:25:34 <elliott_> free
08:25:40 <elliott_> if im sleeping please be quiet
08:26:00 <Madoka-Kaname> Let's make a BF deriv
08:26:03 <Madoka-Kaname> That's actually worth something
08:26:06 <elliott_> no
08:26:08 <elliott_> die
08:26:12 <elliott_> kill
08:26:13 <elliott_> burn
08:26:14 <elliott_> fire
08:26:14 <fizzie> "There's a monster under my bed!" "No, no, that's just an esolang wiki visitor."
08:26:38 <elliott_> i would feel v. safe with a bunch of you guys under there
08:28:21 <shachaf> Did someone say BF derivative?
08:28:47 <mroman> :D
08:28:51 <mroman> with less ative
08:28:52 <zzo38> Madoka-Kaname: You do it yourself; many people in here doesn't like it
08:29:37 <zzo38> What should I call the free Hero Mesh clone?
08:30:24 <shachaf> elliott_: I'll go to your house and sit under your bed and use the wiki!
08:30:27 <shachaf> What's the address?
08:32:51 <elliott_> Q street q q q q q q q q x hexham.
08:33:00 <elliott_> zzo38: HeroMeshExceptIt'sFree
08:33:39 <shachaf> elliott_: Did you ever figure out that two-dimensional zipper?
08:33:42 <zzo38> elliott_: Is there an abbreviation for that?
08:34:03 <zzo38> shachaf: What is a two-dimensional zipper?
08:34:08 <elliott_> shachaf: Sort of.
08:34:12 <elliott_> zzo38: Hmeif
08:34:23 <shachaf> zzo38: I was wondering if elliott_ knew.
08:34:26 <shachaf> elliott_: Sort of?
08:34:38 <zzo38> But I also want to know what it is, too.
08:34:56 <shachaf> Ask elliott_.
08:35:16 <zzo38> elliott_:What is a two-dimensional zipper?
08:35:28 <shachaf> elliott_:What
08:35:31 <shachaf> That's a good name.
08:35:44 <elliott_> iyd s hting
08:35:45 <shachaf> Almost as good as eliot_:what
08:36:09 <elliott_> shachaf: where aer free monads in todays edwardk universe
08:36:13 <zzo38> Oops I forgot a space.
08:36:17 <elliott_> http://hackage.haskell.org/package/free oh here
08:36:34 <elliott_> more like free gonads hehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheheheehehehehhehhehhehehehehehehcaugh huhcuahuhwchwuih owerh iwoehf ufh owe keels over
08:37:08 <elliott_> falls into a ditch
08:37:14 <shachaf> elliott_: _Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead_ is good.
08:37:17 <olsner> elliott_: time to sleep?
08:37:28 <shachaf> You should go see it.
08:38:45 <elliott_> olsner: no i gotta wait for that
08:38:49 <elliott_> shachaf: that sounds like work
08:38:56 <shachaf> It's fun.
08:39:07 <elliott_> fun work???????????????????????????????
08:39:54 <elliott_> fashion? more like FASChionism
08:40:02 <shachaf> ⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇
08:40:22 <elliott_> hi
08:40:42 <zzo38> I have read the article about free monad too, and try a few things, and realize what kind of data structure it makes
08:40:58 <shachaf> The Pirates of Penzance, Berkeley Playhouse, Start Date:02/25 End Date 04/01/12
08:41:02 <shachaf> Should I go see it?
08:41:12 <shachaf> elliott_: Can you fix it so that they stop writing the date like that in the US?
08:41:31 <elliott_> @where is Data.Functor.Alt
08:41:32 <lambdabot> I know nothing about is.
08:41:35 <elliott_> shachaf: yes
08:41:43 <zzo38> I know it is a dumb way to write the date.
08:41:52 <elliott_> oh semigroupoids
08:41:59 <elliott_> and its Data.
08:42:02 <elliott_> wait
08:42:03 <elliott_> wrong Alt
08:42:05 <shachaf> A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, Pacifica Spindrift Theatre, Start Date:03/16 End Date 04/15/12
08:42:09 <shachaf> Maybe I should see that.
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08:43:55 <elliott_> whoa
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08:48:56 <elliott_> `welcome cheater
08:48:58 <elliott_> oops
08:49:00 <elliott_> `welcome churchburner
08:49:05 <HackEgo> cheater: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
08:49:14 <HackEgo> churchburner: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
08:50:16 <churchburner> wow my phone sucks for irc
08:53:03 <churchburner> whats up with lang where interpreter asks the user unanswerable questions
08:53:15 <elliott_> whats up with what being up with it
08:54:18 <churchburner> is there a page or exampl3s, that lang is the shit
08:55:27 <Sgeo> What is the language called?
08:55:33 <Sgeo> Or do you not know?
08:55:49 <churchburner> i dunno
08:56:07 <churchburner> it was in list of ideas
08:57:00 <Sgeo> Among others, there will be some instructions that actually do something useful, though their good effects will not be documented. Programming would require avoiding "traps", both included in specification and not.
08:57:01 <Sgeo> Isn't there already a language like that called "C"?
08:57:01 <Sgeo> [edit]
08:57:04 <elliott_> if it's on the list of ideas, it doesn't exist yet
08:58:07 <churchburner> that would be a fun project
08:58:38 <churchburner> well my phone is going to die. c-ya
09:00:22 <Sgeo> "Rapture is a language inspired by the recent prediction that the world will end on May 21st, 2011, 6 p.m. on the dot (The Bible Guarantees It!) As such, all scheduling in the language is done by making predictions that certain events will run at certain real time dates in the future. When said date inevitably passes without it executing, the program will make an elaborate theological excuse for it not have happening. (e.g. prime_sieve() fail
09:00:23 <Sgeo> ed to start because Jesus heard our sincere prayers and spared our CPU from its great burden.)"
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09:05:01 <pikhq> Sgeo: BTW, he's at it again.
09:05:29 <Sgeo> Hm?
09:06:01 <Sgeo> The judge guy
09:06:02 <Sgeo> ?
09:07:34 <pikhq> God dammit, no, I misremembered. I thought for some reason that Harold Camping had made *another* fucking apocalypse prediction.
09:08:56 <Sgeo> How is he holding up these days?
09:09:14 <pikhq> Apparently he's recovering from a stroke.
09:09:24 <Sgeo> From Wikipedia: "Camping admitted in a private interview that he no longer believed that anybody could know the time of the Rapture or the end of the world, in stark contrast to his previously staunch position on the subject."
09:09:58 <Sgeo> Is WeCanKnow.com still up, yes it is.
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09:11:11 * Sgeo notes a "Message from Mr. Camping" on the Family Radio site
09:12:30 <Sgeo> I can't help but noticing his speech being ... stroke-y. That's not what I should be focused on.
09:45:54 <elliott_> http://news.php.net/php.bugs/167978
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09:53:22 <oklodol> ion: about your throat swallowing problem and fever unhavingnessity but still feeling like crappity, how long did your problems last?
09:54:26 <elliott_> until he died
09:54:38 <fizzie> oklodol: May I recommend The Quantum Xrroid Consciousness Interface? It's got blinking lights, and will cure you. (Reference: http://www.quantum-biofeedback.net/how.html )
09:54:48 <oklodol> so if i have 40 C fever, will they let me on the plane
09:55:33 <elliott_> fizzie: how much does this cost & i want one
09:56:36 <fizzie> elliott_: There's a forum post selling a unit for $3000.
09:56:44 <fizzie> The poster says he paid $13000 for it.
09:57:02 <fizzie> But it doesn't come with the software, it's mostly for if you want a secondary unit.
09:57:19 <oklodol> Call us. Don't you deserve a Quantum Experience?
09:57:23 <elliott_> fizzie: r u srs
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09:57:43 <oklodol> Herb Stockman
09:57:43 <oklodol> Certified Biofeedback Therapist
09:57:55 <fizzie> elliott_: Sure, http://www.energeticforum.com/epfx-quantum-biofeedback/6722-qxci-unit-sale-3-000-a.html
09:58:09 <elliott_> awesome thanks bought
09:58:11 <fizzie> elliott_: Also http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=777896 a second-hand model for $6000.
09:58:38 <elliott_> does it include the software
09:59:04 <fizzie> "So I have one download left on my QXCI that you would have to put on your own computer." So, uh... maybe?
09:59:09 <elliott_> http://www.energetic-medicine.net/QXCI.html I DONT UNDERSTAND
09:59:55 <fizzie> "When it comes round to therapy, buttons are clicked on a screen with little evidence of programming beyond the graphical displays on the QXCI saying it is treating." HOW RUDE.
10:00:11 <oklodol> I am the only owner of this device and of course, it works perfectly in the quantum field of life :-)
10:00:27 <elliott_> "Basically it shows up anything that is affecting the health. For example, if someone has digestive trouble, the QXCI may show that they had salmonella as a child, which is still causing them problems. . . ."
10:00:38 <elliott_> [[
10:00:39 <elliott_> The QXCI device is recommended for adults, children and pets, as well as for self-use; and some proponents even claim that it can work with the patient located elsewhere. A California practitioner who advertised that sessions could be done "from the other side of the world," stated:
10:00:39 <elliott_> If you choose to do a distance-type appointment, you will need to send a recent-as-possible sample of your hair in an envelope and your current signature on a 3" x 5" white index card. This will be placed in the QXCI so that the program may sample your body's frequency. The sample and signature must arrive BEFORE the appointment can be made [6].
10:00:40 <elliott_> ]]
10:00:51 <elliott_> they should use feather, then the sample and signature could arrive after too
10:01:51 <fizzie> elliott_: Sadly, I think FDA banned importing the thing to the US, at least.
10:01:54 <fizzie> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/xrroid.html
10:02:12 <fizzie> "In January 2008, after being embarrassed by investigative reports published in the Seattle Times [22], the FDA banned importation of the QCXI [23]."
10:02:23 <elliott_> That was where my quoth originate.
10:02:27 <fizzie> Ah.
10:02:30 <fizzie> Okays, then.
10:02:45 <elliott_> more fuel for fda conspiracy theories im sure
10:03:25 <fizzie> "The IMUNE Web site suggested that practitioners have their clients sign an "informed consent" which states (in part): I . . . understand that the QXCI is a device used to identify and balance sources of bio-energetic stress that may impact on the mind-body system. No information should be construed as a claim or representation that this device is used in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of disease or any other medical ...
10:03:31 <fizzie> ... condition [10]."
10:03:34 <fizzie> Heh.
10:03:56 <oklodol> elliott_: did you read your own link?
10:04:05 <elliott_> well no
10:04:10 <oklodol> it's does the diagnosis based on a
10:04:13 <oklodol> random generator
10:04:20 <elliott_> is it quantum
10:04:35 <oklodol> It works by entering data into a screen, which is fed into the EPFX QXCI / SCIOs weighted random number generator which in turn displays results. When it comes round to therapy, buttons are clicked on a screen with little evidence of programming beyond the graphical displays on the QXCI saying it is treating.
10:04:57 <oklodol> Princeton University, while not having anything to do with the EPFX QXCI / SCIO in particular, have shown in independent studies that random events can be influenced.
10:04:59 <elliott_> oh
10:05:00 <elliott_> that wasnt my link
10:05:01 <oklodol> i would love the reference
10:05:02 <elliott_> that was fizzies
10:05:05 <elliott_> my link was to
10:05:09 <elliott_> the offikal site
10:05:21 <oklodol> no i haven't opened fizzie's link
10:05:27 <fizzie> elliott_: That was in fact from energetic-medicine.net too.
10:05:38 <oklodol> yeah, the official site says that. see, random events can be influenced.
10:05:41 <elliott_> ??? what was
10:05:42 <elliott_> im so confused
10:05:49 <elliott_> no i was
10:05:50 <elliott_> talking about
10:05:52 <elliott_> the random thing
10:05:56 <elliott_> "little evidence of pro"
10:05:57 <oklodol> that is from your link
10:05:57 <elliott_> gramming
10:06:00 <elliott_> is not from offikal site
10:06:02 <elliott_> no
10:06:03 <elliott_> i
10:06:06 <elliott_> didnt link the quackwatch page
10:06:15 <elliott_> oh they
10:06:19 <elliott_> they actually say that
10:06:23 <oklodol> they
10:06:23 <elliott_> i thought ht at was the quackwatch people
10:06:25 <oklodol> actually
10:06:25 <oklodol> say
10:06:26 <oklodol> that
10:06:32 <elliott_> thats um
10:06:33 <elliott_> thats
10:06:38 <elliott_> an interesting marketing strategy
10:06:48 <oklodol> this is what quantum xeroidists actually believe
10:07:05 <elliott_> oklodol: speaking of influencing random events how good are you at retropsychokinesis
10:07:12 <elliott_> i'm crap
10:07:17 <fizzie> elliott_: I think they're mostly saying that because they want to sell their own NES-Pro.
10:07:20 <oklodol> okay i guess
10:07:24 <oklodol> better than my neighbor
10:07:26 <fizzie> "This is perhaps a reflection of the age of the QXCI / SCIO system, both in terms of software and hardware. However, it is refreshing to note that there is a device available on the modern market which fulfils our requirements for a state of the art system designed with ease of application in mind – namely, the NES-Pro."
10:07:27 <elliott_> fizzie: oh, is that not the official site or something
10:07:35 <elliott_> heh
10:07:39 <fizzie> Well, it's an official site of some energetic medicine people.
10:08:00 <elliott_> oklodol: is that an actual answer and/or have you not tried it and/or do you even know what i'm talking about and/or if you d o ok
10:08:02 <elliott_> *do
10:08:16 <Sgeo> I hope my medicine has energy. I think ingesting a 0k pill might be bad for me.
10:08:27 <fizzie> They have this sort of a comparison matrix at http://www.energetic-medicine.net/device-comparison.html of the different devices.
10:09:06 <elliott_> fizzie: how good are you at retropsychokinesis im gathering data on finns
10:09:47 <fizzie> Of course the best option is to just spend 11200+16000+21000+13500+15000+15000+10000+12000+1129+13500+3000+2495+6000+5000+15000+10000+1995+3000+15000+5000+170+3500+1695+3500+497 = 204181 dollars and get one of each.
10:10:05 <fizzie> (Except I had to skip Mitosan Therapy and Bodyscan because they didn't have prices listed.)
10:10:42 <fizzie> Anyway, the QXSI/SCIO, according to the table, has "No Credible Scientific Backing", while the NES has "Extensive research team with scientific backing".
10:10:49 <elliott_> :D
10:10:52 <elliott_> fizzie: how good are you at retropsychokinesis im gathering data on finnsfizzie: how good are you at retropsychokinesis im gathering data on finnsfizzie: how good are you at retropsychokinesis im gathering data on finnsfizzie: how good are you at retropsychokinesis im gathering data on finns
10:11:03 <oklodol> NES has Extensive research team with scientific backing
10:11:03 <fizzie> I kinda suck at it. :/ :/ :\
10:11:22 <elliott_> me too
10:11:23 <fizzie> oklodol: Admittedly the Nintendo Entertainment System has some good science behind it.
10:11:23 <elliott_> its ok
10:11:30 <oklodol> elliott_: so i checked what that is and i'm not very good at it actually
10:11:49 <elliott_> again i remain unsure whether the answers i am getting are genuine or just fizzie making stuff up for the yuks because he thinks i'm joking about a thing that isn't a thing
10:11:59 <elliott_> oklodol: ok thank you for your data
10:12:09 <elliott_> my working hypothesis is that finns are really bad at retropsychokinesis
10:12:18 <elliott_> probably Deewiant will prove me wrong by like
10:12:29 <elliott_> being perfect at it
10:12:37 <oklodol> so let me tell you a story
10:12:46 <oklodol> there was this guy whose throat was hurting real bad
10:12:53 <oklodol> and he was like lemme take a pill that'll help
10:13:05 <elliott_> How do you get rid of my micro-organisms and irritants?
10:13:05 <elliott_> We do it electronically. We find what is stressing your system through Quantum BioFeedback testing. Then we neutralize those irritants electronically. Our system has nothing to do with conventional medicine. We don't use drugs or work on the biochemical level as traditional medicine does. We help heal your energy field through physics. Painlessly. Once your stresses are neutralized, your body is the real healer. Afterward, your immune system is
10:13:06 <elliott_> de-stressed and free to heal you to higher levels.
10:13:08 <fizzie> And then BIOFEEDBACK HAPPENED.
10:13:14 <elliott_> What kind of acute problems can it help?
10:13:14 <elliott_> Perhaps you're coming down with a cold or a virus. You've stubbed your toe. You're suffering from a backache. You have tennis elbow. Sciatic pain in your hip. We treat your specific energy flow in this area. When your energy field flows properly, your body is free to heal.
10:13:15 <oklodol> he was like hey i don't need water
10:13:29 <oklodol> and the pill got stuck but he didn't notice because his throat hurt
10:13:39 <oklodol> and then he died
10:13:53 <fizzie> Was this guy in fact YOU?!
10:14:01 <elliott_> rip
10:14:08 <oklodol> well i may have modified to story a bit to make it interesting
10:14:29 <fizzie> Also I want to share another very important point in favour of NES-Pro: "In contrast to the many radionics/biofeedback devices available today such as the QXCI, the NES-Pro does not imprint corrective information directly onto the client, rather, it uses liquid imprints taken orally over a course of the treatment protocol. This method has two main benefits over direct biofeedback: 1) there is no direct portal opened into the energetic field of the ...
10:14:35 <fizzie> ... client, meaning there is a reduced likelihood of background noise, e.g. computer radiation etc., also being received; 2) the client increases their dosage sequentially, so they can control the speed and retracing of ill-health."
10:14:54 <elliott_> ah
10:15:01 <fizzie> Getting computer radiation into my energetic field via the direct portals, I hate it when that happens.
10:15:11 <elliott_> so does this mean i could infect my energetic field by computing things carefully
10:15:14 <elliott_> like reprogram that shit
10:16:06 <fizzie> Mmmaybe, but I'm sure you need some sort of a ten-grand box to open the portal first.
10:16:19 <elliott_> Hey, how do I print partition table on linux with humane units thx
10:16:27 <elliott_> (fdisk prints hideous huge monstrosity numbers)
10:17:41 <elliott_> I don't have parted to preempt that
10:17:48 <elliott_> Probably there's some fdisk command to make the output more reasonable
10:17:53 <shachaf> elliott_: cfdisk?
10:18:14 <elliott_> That works I guess.
10:18:31 <shachaf> FSVO "print"
10:18:31 <elliott_> Oh, I'm not actually using those 7601.13 megabytes as swap.
10:18:35 <elliott_> How much disk space does Windows 7 use?
10:18:40 <shachaf> All of it.
10:18:46 <shachaf> Parkinson's law.
10:19:07 <oklodol> main folder 12 gb
10:19:24 <shachaf> C:\MAIN
10:19:25 <elliott_> HDD free space16 GB of free disk space20 GB of free disk space
10:19:25 <fizzie> "parted -l" also does a print-in-human-units if you happen to have it installed.
10:19:34 <elliott_> Well, I... don't have that kind of disk.
10:19:48 <elliott_> I suppose I could just install XP.
10:19:53 <elliott_> fizzie: <elliott_> I don't have parted to preempt that
10:19:58 <fizzie> Oh.
10:20:02 <fizzie> I misseded.
10:20:04 <fizzie> The point.
10:20:46 <elliott_> I need a Bonsai Windows 7.
10:21:55 <fizzie> Maybe a Windows 7 Starter, isn't that, like, small.
10:22:02 <fizzie> At least they stick it into small boxes.
10:22:05 <elliott_> I see nobody is butting in saying "actually MY windows only takes 6 gigabytes" or whatever.
10:22:10 <elliott_> I don't really want to do "the XP thing".
10:22:16 <elliott_> (This is all because I want to play Worms.)
10:22:51 <fizzie> I don't have the laptop-with-a-Windows-7 on, and I doubt it does a thing where it's a thing. I mean that thing. The wake-on-lan thing.
10:23:24 <elliott_> You could TRY.
10:23:27 <elliott_> Wake-on-lan scares me.
10:23:31 <elliott_> It's one step from that, to sentience.
10:24:09 <Sgeo> I should install that autocomplete thing for emacs
10:24:11 <Sgeo> And paredit
10:24:16 <elliott_> Sgeo: How big is your Windows 7.
10:24:23 <Sgeo> What?
10:24:51 <elliott_> Sgeo: How big is your Windows 7.
10:24:54 <Sgeo> HD space? I have no idea, and can't easily check due to non-working computer.
10:25:05 <Sgeo> It runs acceptably with 1GB RAM if that helps
10:25:51 <fizzie> elliott_: Hey, I have a Windows Server 2003 or something in this Linux workstation. I had completely forgotten about that. It seems to reside on two hundred-gigabyte partitions. Let's see.
10:25:51 <elliott_> shachaf: How big is your Windows 7?
10:26:01 <fizzie> 11G ./System Volume Information
10:26:01 <fizzie> 2.1G ./Users
10:26:01 <fizzie> 11G ./Windows
10:26:05 <fizzie> That's a bit large.
10:26:11 <elliott_> fizzie: That's... not Windows 7.
10:26:13 <fizzie> I don't know what "System Volume Information" is.
10:26:20 <fizzie> It's like almost.
10:26:30 <elliott_> http://indrajitc.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/reclaiming-disk-space-from-system-volume-information/
10:26:43 <elliott_> System Restore, sounds like.
10:27:42 <fizzie> I don't have the MAC address of the laptop listed in /etc/ethers. :/
10:27:47 <fizzie> I suppose there's a DHCP lease for it, though.
10:27:56 <elliott_> More like /etc/AETHERS.
10:28:57 <fizzie> Oh no it doesn't seem to write leases for fixed-address hosts.
10:29:34 <elliott_> ;__;
10:29:45 <fizzie> Well, I poked it with etherwake.
10:29:45 * elliott_ is imagining that it's ~2 metres away from fizzie.
10:30:34 <fizzie> 4.35 km straight-line distance.
10:31:11 <fizzie> Anyway, I have a bad feeling that it doesn't bring the networking up until I log in and nm-applet starts and notices.
10:31:21 <Sgeo> elliott_, WINE isn't working?
10:31:34 <elliott_> fizzie: Your router has 4 km long Ethernet cables?
10:31:45 <elliott_> Sgeo: Indeed. I think it's a driver problem, or -- something, anyway, it's mysterious.
10:31:49 <fizzie> I'm glad to report that I was the worng and it actually woke up by etherwake.
10:32:20 <elliott_> Yay, More PHP Security Vulnerability Updates(tm)
10:33:42 <fizzie> So the C:\Windows is 16G and then there's additional 5.1G of C:\Users and 31G of C:\Program Files (x86).
10:33:51 <fizzie> It's kinda-sorta big, apparently.
10:33:52 <elliott_> fizzie: Well that's an awful big.
10:33:56 <elliott_> I have a feeling stock C;\Windows is smaller.
10:34:00 <elliott_> But still. So big.
10:34:03 <elliott_> Yet XP is so XP.
10:35:02 <elliott_> I wish you could shrink jfs.
10:35:06 <elliott_> That's the one thing it needs to be perfect.
10:35:29 <fizzie> 3.3G of C:\Windows is in "System32", 1.2G is in "SysWOW64", 5.8G in "winsxs", 1.6G in "assembly", and the rest of the subparts are less than a jiggabyte.
10:36:06 <fizzie> I have to say I like the "WOW, it's 64!" connotations of Windows-on-Windows.
10:36:25 <elliott_> WOW That's What I Call Windows 64
10:36:30 <elliott_> (Do you have those over there?)
10:37:14 <fizzie> I do have all kinds of .NET framework versions installed which probably waste a space.
10:37:16 <elliott_> If not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_That's_What_I_Call_Music! (They have the dubious distinction of being full of material you would not, in fact, call music.)
10:37:43 <fizzie> Apparently we do.
10:37:48 <fizzie> Though I was not personally familiar with them.
10:37:56 <fizzie> "As of 2007, eight Now! albums have been released in Finland. There have also been spin-offs including Now That's What I Call Music Pop Hits and Now That's What I Call Dance Music."
10:38:17 <fizzie> I think I had seen the "Absolute Hits" things it mentions.
10:39:27 <elliott_> Hey, I could install Windows 7 to the yuusb drive.
10:39:30 <elliott_> Would that be slow?
10:39:33 <elliott_> Yes, it would, wouldn't it.
10:39:44 <elliott_> It's an actual external hard disk, though.
10:40:23 <fizzie> I don't suppose it's USB 3.0 or anything?
10:41:24 <elliott_> Ha. No, this laptop predates USB 3 being on anything, I believe.
10:41:32 <elliott_> Needs Thunderbolt!
10:42:47 <elliott_> Also there's the problem that, uh, the external hard disk is what I'll need to use to install it.
10:42:52 <elliott_> Does XP even install from yuusb media?
10:42:57 <elliott_> I doubt it.
10:43:00 <elliott_> (Does 7?)
10:43:53 <fizzie> I think they mostly "do" install both from and to an external disk for the value of "people have managed to fiddle enough to do it" of "do".
10:44:32 <elliott_> "In the past, Microsoft offered a tool called the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool that automated the process of converting a Windows 7 Setup ISO file and copy its contents to a bootable USB storage device or to DVD."
10:44:44 <elliott_> fizzie: That sounds considerably easier than any XP hackery.
10:45:04 <fizzie> Yes, the "from" bit is probably better supported.
10:45:49 <elliott_> fizzie: (Do you feel like a magician, booting a computer from kilometres away?)
10:45:58 <elliott_> I mean, I've never done that.
10:46:04 <fizzie> http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7-to-usb-external-hard-drive-must-read/ "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. Setup does not support configuration of or installation to disks connected through a USB or IEEE 1394 port."
10:46:20 <fizzie> But there's instructions on how to do it with WAIK.
10:47:06 <fizzie> Also I do feel a bit like a magician, except it's slightly diminished since I've booted the workstation some dozens of times like that. This was the first time I tried with the laptop, though.
10:47:22 <fizzie> Fortunately it had the wired cable connected, wake-on-wireless it definitely doesn't do.
10:47:27 <elliott_> It's spooky action at a distance.
10:47:53 * elliott_ wonders what to do.
10:48:10 <elliott_> I somewhat doubt 7 will install into 7601 megs.
10:49:03 <fizzie> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements "16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)"
10:49:30 <fizzie> That's the Official Word.
10:49:47 <fizzie> Official Microsoft Word, not to be confused with, well, Microsoft Word.
10:50:13 <elliott_> Yes, I enquotened Wikipedia on that matter abovely.
10:50:26 <elliott_> Such a big.
10:50:58 <elliott_> I don't suppose I could somehow make an NTFS partition as a file on the jfs partition, like some horrible reverse Wubi manœuvre.
10:51:44 <fizzie> Cleaning tabs, I found a "biofeedback devices" blog complaining about the EPFX QXCI/SCIO. "Bill Nelson the developer of The EPFX/SCIO or QXCI conducted himself in a very unprofessional manner in some of the interviews and as a result, caused tremendous harm not only to The EPFX/SCIO market but to the entire bio-energteic industry. -- Furthermore his lifestyle as a transvestite has done his company or the industry absolutely no favors at all. Check ...
10:51:50 <fizzie> ... out these links: -- Bill Nelson models as a pregnant female: Click here."
10:51:53 <fizzie> I don't think I will be clicking here.
10:51:55 <fizzie> But it's a weird world.
10:55:16 <elliott_> I take it that's a no.
10:55:36 <fizzie> It's at least unlikely to be a supported thing.
10:56:18 <fizzie> Well, I mean, outside for making a file on the jfs partition and then using that file as a VirtualBox/VMWare/whatever disk image, running it in an operating system that can do jfs.
10:56:46 <elliott_> http://tex.stackexchange.com/users/4427/egreg?tab=reputation
10:56:52 <elliott_> That's an impressive daily reputation change.
10:57:04 <elliott_> fizzie: Well, I was "considering" VirtualBox.
10:57:06 <elliott_> But that's so ugly.
10:57:50 <Sgeo> o.O VOTING FRAUD?
10:58:02 <elliott_> o.O VOTING FRAUD?
11:00:31 <fizzie> TeXland is probably well-known for corrupted officials and unfair elections.
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11:01:49 <elliott_> "But LaTeX3 is really about three to four different levels" -- a list of five items follows.
11:04:22 <zzo38> I have just realized that the free monad of the indexed store comonad is a barrier monad.
11:07:06 <zzo38> (When I wrote the stuff on the paper then I realized)
11:08:40 <elliott_> fizzie: Oh, there's a http://liliputing.com/2009/08/easiest-way-to-install-windows-on-a-netbook-with-a-usb-flash-drive.html thing.
11:09:03 <elliott_> There's also a my chromium is freezing aaah thing.
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11:33:58 <Sgeo> I think I'm starting to dislike #lisp
11:34:34 <Sgeo> Telling someone not to implement a toy lisp to C converter because there are already things that do CL to C
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11:59:29 <mroman> :)
11:59:51 <elliott_> ):
12:00:01 <elliott_> ^scramble :)
12:00:01 <fungot> :)
12:00:04 <elliott_> ^scramble x:)y
12:00:04 <fungot> x)y:
12:00:08 <elliott_> ^scramble :)
12:00:08 <fungot> : )
12:00:11 <elliott_> ^scramble :)
12:00:11 <fungot> ):
12:00:16 <mroman> Smileys are actuall Beam code!!!
12:00:23 <elliott_> ^scramble Smileys are actuall Beam code!!!
12:00:23 <fungot> SiesaeatalBa oe!!!dcme luc r ylm
12:04:38 <quintopia> ^scramble elliott
12:04:39 <fungot> elottil
12:04:48 <quintopia> hello elottil
12:05:03 <elliott_> ^unscramble quintopia
12:05:03 <fungot> qauiipnot
12:05:14 <elliott_> ^scramble quintopia
12:05:14 <fungot> qitpaionu
12:05:40 <fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that?
12:05:41 <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord
12:05:59 <quintopia> the new fnord f150?
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12:12:38 <elliott_> `addquote <fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord
12:12:39 <fungot> elliott_: how usable is borges in the real world
12:12:42 <HackEgo> 812) <fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord
12:12:44 <elliott_> `addquote <fungot> elliott_: how usable is borges in the real world
12:12:44 <fungot> elliott_: it may not be true on some other tune. go do that now, but i'd like to read
12:12:47 <HackEgo> 813) <fungot> elliott_: how usable is borges in the real world
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12:19:12 <mroman> Anybody want to explain the new topic? o_O
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12:20:34 <elliott_> mroman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller
12:20:51 <elliott_> I miss fdhsfdsgdsg already.
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12:22:41 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:22:44 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:22:45 <elliott_> I missed you, you know.
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12:25:07 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:07 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:08 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:08 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:08 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:09 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:09 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:11 <elliott_> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:25:32 <fizzie> This channel is just so welcoming.
12:25:33 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:25:41 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:25:55 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:26:00 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:26:05 <fizzie> HackEgo: Couldn't you, I don't know, get some sense and not be so repetitive.
12:26:05 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:26:05 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:26:06 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:26:06 <elliott_> fizzie: Well, they didn't seem to get the hint to stick around with the previous welcomes.
12:26:06 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:26:21 <elliott_> ?so what
12:26:21 <lambdabot> what not available
12:26:34 <fizzie> Did you see my double-directed welcome?
12:26:35 <fizzie> `@ elliott welcome elliott
12:26:39 <elliott_> ?so `run welcome fdhsfdsgdsg; echo '?so'
12:26:39 <lambdabot> `run welcome fdhsfdsgdsg; echo '?so' not available
12:26:40 <HackEgo> elliott: elliott: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:26:42 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page \ ?so not available
12:27:41 <elliott_> `run echo 'echo "?so `run $(cat bin/ok); #$(welcome fdhsfdsgdsg)"' >bin/ok; chmod +x bin/ok
12:27:44 <HackEgo> No output.
12:27:46 <elliott_> `cat bin/ok
12:27:49 <HackEgo> echo "?so `run $(cat bin/ok); #$(welcome fdhsfdsgdsg)"
12:27:52 <elliott_> `bin/ok
12:27:55 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/ok: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/ok: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
12:28:04 <elliott_> `run echo 'echo "?so \`run $(cat bin/ok); #$(welcome fdhsfdsgdsg)"' >bin/ok; chmod +x bin/ok
12:28:08 <HackEgo> No output.
12:28:09 <elliott_> `ok
12:28:12 <HackEgo> ​?so `run echo "?so \`run $(cat bin/ok); #$(welcome fdhsfdsgdsg)"; #fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:28:35 <elliott_> `run echo 'echo "?so \`ok $(welcome fdhsfdsgdsg)"' >bin/ok; chmod +x bin/ok
12:28:38 <HackEgo> No output.
12:28:41 <elliott_> `ok
12:28:44 <HackEgo> ​?so `ok fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:28:55 <elliott_> Oh, HackEgo does the Unicode nonsense.
12:29:01 <elliott_> fizzie: You should kick it for wasting my valuable time.
12:29:05 <elliott_> Wait...
12:29:19 <elliott_> `run echo 'echo "^ul (?so \`ok $(welcome fdhsfdsgdsg))S"' >bin/ok; chmod +x bin/ok
12:29:21 <HackEgo> No output.
12:29:23 <elliott_> `ok
12:29:26 <HackEgo> ​^ul (?so `ok fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page)S
12:29:33 <elliott_> Oh, duh, that won't work either.
12:29:35 <elliott_> Hmm.
12:29:40 <elliott_> ^ul (`welcome)S
12:29:41 <fungot> `welcome
12:29:44 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:30:20 <elliott_> > text "a\nb"
12:30:21 <lambdabot> a
12:30:21 <lambdabot> b
12:30:36 <elliott_> @where+ okokok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabc
12:30:36 <lambdabot> Okay.
12:30:38 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:30:38 <lambdabot> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabc
12:30:45 <elliott_> @where+ okokok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:30:45 <lambdabot> I will never forget.
12:30:46 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:30:46 <lambdabot> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:30:51 <elliott_> @where+ okokok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:30:51 <lambdabot> I will never forget.
12:30:52 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:30:53 <lambdabot> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:30:56 <elliott_> @where+ okokok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:30:56 <lambdabot> I will never forget.
12:30:57 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:30:58 <lambdabot> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:31:02 <elliott_> @where+ okokok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:31:02 <lambdabot> Good to know.
12:31:03 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:31:03 <lambdabot> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:31:06 <elliott_> @where+ okokok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:31:07 <lambdabot> It is stored.
12:31:08 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:31:08 <lambdabot> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcab
12:31:08 <lambdabot> cabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:31:09 <mroman> ehm?
12:31:15 <elliott_> mroman: Shhh! Science at work.
12:31:26 <elliott_> @where+ okokok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcXXX
12:31:26 <lambdabot> Done.
12:31:27 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:31:27 <lambdabot> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcab
12:31:28 <lambdabot> cXXX
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12:31:54 <elliott_> @where+ okokok ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcab`welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:31:54 <lambdabot> Okay.
12:32:02 <elliott_> ^def ok ul (@where okokok)S
12:32:02 <fungot> Defined.
12:32:04 <elliott_> ^ok
12:32:04 <fungot> @where okokok
12:32:04 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:32:04 <lambdabot> b`welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:32:11 <elliott_> @where+ okokok ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca`welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:32:11 <lambdabot> Good to know.
12:32:13 <elliott_> ^ok
12:32:14 <fungot> @where okokok
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12:32:14 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:32:14 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:32:18 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:32:23 <elliott_> Oh, wait.
12:32:27 <elliott_> fungot ignores lambdabot.
12:32:27 <fungot> elliott_: daniel is a bf implementation in tcl is a bit excessive. does he specify that? oh, yeh!! wash the
12:32:32 <elliott_> fizzie: Why do you *ruin* everything?
12:32:32 <fizzie> I am very ashamed to report that is so.
12:32:42 <elliott_> You can fix that. I know you can fix that, at runtime and all.
12:33:00 <elliott_> Come on, that length overflow is genius!
12:33:04 <fizzie> Anyway, we've *had* botloops. But I can fix it for a couple of iterations if you somehow need.
12:33:05 <elliott_> I deserve to see my spoils. :(
12:33:07 <fizzie> ^ignore
12:33:07 <fungot> ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot)!
12:33:15 <fizzie> ^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot)!
12:33:15 <fungot> OK.
12:33:18 <elliott_> Thank you, as long as a "couple" means "fifteen or so".
12:33:21 <elliott_> ^ok
12:33:21 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:21 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:21 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:21 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:22 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:22 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:22 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:22 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:22 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:23 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:25 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:25 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:27 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:28 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:29 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:29 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:29 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:31 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:33 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:33 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:33 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:35 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:37 <elliott_> Yes, truly this is a thing of beauty.
12:33:37 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:37 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:38 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:39 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:39 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:39 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:41 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:41 <fungot> @where okokok
12:33:41 <fizzie> ^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot)!
12:33:42 <fungot> OK.
12:33:42 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:43 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:45 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:33:46 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:47 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:33:48 <fizzie> I'm not going to wait 15, sorry.
12:33:50 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:33:59 <fizzie> But it's very... it's very something, I grant you that.
12:34:02 <elliott_> Now watch as HackEgo carries on the torch for another hour.
12:34:20 <elliott_> Or not.
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12:34:49 <elliott_> Mission accomplished, I think.
12:34:54 <elliott_> I bet they feel very welcome.
12:35:15 <fizzie> Possibly welcome enough to just spontaneously explode.
12:35:54 <elliott_> The best thing is that
12:35:56 <elliott_> @where okokok
12:35:56 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
12:35:56 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
12:35:59 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
12:36:03 <elliott_> will confuse people for the remaining forever.
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12:37:46 <elliott_> fizzie: I don't think you left it for enough iterations.
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12:45:55 <elliott_> fizzie: I think this is becoming: a problem.
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12:49:39 <elliott_> fizzie: :(
12:53:41 <fizzie> Yes, it seems impossible to be welcoming enough.
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12:54:31 <fizzie> Or maybe e just has so much to offer, based on all that flooding messages.
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12:55:24 <elliott_> fizzie: It's getting quite annoying.
12:58:14 <fizzie> Yes, maybe I'll add a temporary +b after the next hop or so. The person does not seem too interested in discussing things.
13:00:22 <elliott_> fizzie: You scared em away.
13:06:04 <Phantom_Hoover> Wait, why was elliott_ botlooping?
13:06:31 <fizzie> In order to be friendly, AIUI.
13:07:00 <fizzie> Sorry, not "understand", I don't want to stand under any contract.
13:15:35 <elliott_> fizzie: Can you implement the perfect internet protocol?
13:16:06 <fizzie> The only good internet protocol is a dead internet protocol. Like Gopher.
13:17:24 <elliott_> zzo38? Is that you?
13:19:32 <mroman> Firefox does not even support gopher anymore :(
13:19:43 <mroman> I recently noticed while browsing someones site.
13:20:31 <mroman> oh. That someone is zzo38.
13:20:34 <mroman> :)
13:20:40 <elliott_> Vonkeror does, though!!!!
13:21:05 <fizzie> And there's an add-on (obviously) to add it back to modern Firefox.
13:21:25 <fizzie> Chrome hasn't ever supported Gopher, I think.
13:22:44 <mroman> Unless Facebook changes to gopher it probably never ever will.
13:23:24 <fizzie> I have an old book about the Internets, got it when we got our first connection. It's got one quite short chapter on this "new-fangled" WWW thing, something about Mosaic, but mostly it's about things that are quite quite dead now.
13:24:02 <fizzie> Like there was few pages of finger-able addresses that you could poke to get things like Coca-Cola vending machine state information at some US university.
13:24:10 <fizzie> Doing that from home was, like, so magical.
13:24:15 <fizzie> I tried most of them.
13:24:30 <elliott_> Did you get any Coke?
13:24:43 <mroman> Coke through octothingies?
13:24:46 <fizzie> It did not actually deliver, sadly.
13:24:59 * Phantom_Hoover has an urge to watch the LotR films again.
13:25:05 <fizzie> Also some coffee pot status things.
13:25:30 <fizzie> And then Archie and WAIS when you were looking for a thing.
13:28:29 <fizzie> And maybe it mentioned AltaVista too. Not sure. I think this was 1995, in which case it could've been just launched.
13:29:22 <fizzie> Google finds both 1994 and 1995 as publication years for the book, assuming it's called what I think it was called.
13:31:08 <fizzie> Oh, hey: latest news from #xmonad: http://sprunge.us/hFfA
13:31:49 <elliott_> fizzie: Yes, I had a the feeling that it might be a many-place thing.
13:32:20 <fizzie> But it keeps happening in there; it's now around 15:30 in our faketime.
13:32:57 <elliott_> I warned you about fdhsfdsgdsg, bro.
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14:13:36 <fizzie> Oh, hey, now it's at #nethack.
14:13:50 <fizzie> And I see it's been at #maemo for quite a while.
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14:14:00 <fizzie> Gets everywhere, doesn't e.
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15:17:52 <fizzie> Oh no. :/
15:17:59 <fizzie> Now e's no longer welcome.
15:29:10 <ion> oklodol: It’s been about 7.5 days since the first symptoms. The throat was still aching badly yesterday but it feels better now. There’s still some major sinus congestion that affects the ears, too.
15:31:16 <fizzie> ion: I think he'd like to know whether his ears are likely to EXPLODE if he flies up.
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15:52:36 <ion> Quality IT journalism in Finland: the title translates to ‘Linux made Torvalds see red: “please kill yourself”’ http://www.itviikko.fi/tietoturva/2012/03/01/linux-sai-torvaldsin-nakemaan-punaista-pyydan-tapa-itsesi/201224405/7
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16:12:39 <Taneb> Hello!
16:13:28 <ion> o hai
16:13:51 <Taneb> Both today's El Goonish Shive and Freefall are good
16:14:03 <Taneb> Today's xkcd is nice, rather than good.
16:16:09 <Taneb> Taneb's daily webcomic review is now over.
16:16:19 -!- Taneb has changed nick to Ngevd.
16:16:23 <Ngevd> Any messages?
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17:53:34 <ais523> hey, look what my supervisor did: https://sites.google.com/site/thegeometryofsynthesis/
17:53:49 <ais523> (at least vaguely ontopic)
17:57:23 <Friendship> ais523: I like how the page starts with a brief description of what the tool is, then its development history, then download information.
17:57:28 <Friendship> It's an extremely informative design.
17:57:38 <ion> Indeed
17:59:30 <ais523> hmm, where does it say that?
17:59:50 <ais523> let me try with JS and cookies on
18:00:31 <ais523> hmm, no
18:00:42 * ais523 wonders if he/she's somehow missing sarcasm
18:01:00 <ion> Try turning sarcasm on.
18:01:38 <ais523> ah, OK
18:01:49 <ais523> anyway, the website was made entirely by my supervisor
18:01:51 <ais523> I mostly just wrote code for it
18:02:15 <ais523> (try spotting typos in the EULA, if you want some fun; we just put up what the lawyers told us to)
18:02:25 <ais523> (or alternatively, try out the code)
18:04:59 <ais523> I am also not inspired by it being made in Google Sites
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22:50:46 <elliott> [[
22:50:47 <elliott> I would just appreciate an opinion on this new low-level esoteric programming language I made up... -- 08:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
22:50:47 <elliott> How do you do conditionals and loops? —ehird 15:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
22:50:47 <elliott> It's probably esoteric... because you can't do conditionals and loops ---- 13:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
22:50:47 <elliott> ]]
22:50:49 <elliott> *sigh*
22:53:07 <ion> heh
23:01:32 <Sgeo> Well, a language without conditionals and loops is probably esoteric (or designed by an incompetent)
23:01:56 <elliott> That makes the lambda calculus esoteric.
23:02:04 <elliott> Heck, that makes the functional subset of J and K esoteric.
23:02:11 <elliott> (And so probably APL, though I'm not sure.)
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23:02:42 <Sgeo> Lambda calculus has conditionals and loops, just not as language features.
23:02:43 <Sgeo> >.>
23:04:44 <elliott> Sgeo: Therefore the lambda calculus also has, e.g. pointers.
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23:10:24 <elliott> hi monqy
23:12:59 <elliott> 15:52:36: <ion> Quality IT journalism in Finland: the title translates to ‘Linux made Torvalds see red: “please kill yourself”’ http://www.itviikko.fi/tietoturva/2012/03/01/linux-sai-torvaldsin-nakemaan-punaista-pyydan-tapa-itsesi/201224405/7
23:13:08 <elliott> ion: I take it Linus Torvalds is the closest thing Finns have to a celebrity?
23:13:19 <Friendship> And he's a Fennoswede haw haw haw
23:13:28 <elliott> I mean, you've got the gossip, the scandal, the drama, the good looks...
23:13:33 <elliott> Okay, maybe not the good looks.
23:13:45 <elliott> But Finland settling for something almost good should surprise nobody.
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23:14:29 <elliott> ais523: Did he rename it again>?
23:14:31 <elliott> *?
23:14:37 <elliott> Or is this GOS thing not The Compiler?
23:14:38 <fizzie> You have to play with the cards you've been dealt.
23:14:53 * elliott reads the license.
23:15:00 * elliott decides to never download this software.
23:15:05 <ais523> elliott: GOS is the name of the compiler, Verity is the name of the language
23:15:12 <ais523> and the file extension is .ia
23:15:43 <elliott> I found a way to circumvent the license
23:15:48 <monqy> hi
23:16:12 <elliott> (search fo "gosc.tgz")
23:16:26 <elliott> *for
23:17:24 <elliott> I will now proceed to make a derivative work of it for non-academic purposes.
23:18:23 <ais523> err, if you /don't/ accept the license, then you can't distribute derivative works of it at all because nothing's licensing it to you
23:18:26 <ais523> what do you think of it, anyway?
23:18:46 <elliott> ais523: I can't distribute them, but if I agreed to the license, I would be prohibited from even making them
23:19:03 <ais523> well, OK
23:20:41 <elliott> the syntax is pretty
23:20:59 <elliott> though it wants layout
23:22:11 <ais523> actually, I'd better go home before I miss the last bus
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23:22:16 <ais523> I got a little preoccupied with Rubicon…
23:22:20 <ais523> bye everyone
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23:37:51 <oerjan> <elliott_> shocking <-- HEY THAT'S A VIOLATION OF MY TRADEMARK PATENT COPYRIGHT
23:38:57 <shachaf> oerjan: Wait, that's yours?
23:39:01 <shachaf> I thought that was elliott_'s.
23:39:04 <shachaf> shocking
23:39:21 <oerjan> shachaf: that's a very bold move you're doing there
23:40:01 <elliott> finally i have almost passed all my enemies in stack overflow reputation
23:40:04 <elliott> hate is the best motivator
23:40:14 <shachaf> elliott: Is cmccann among your enemies?
23:42:04 <elliott> I... don't think so?
23:42:11 <oerjan> <elliott_> `welcome cheater <-- now _that's_ shocking
23:42:16 <elliott> IT WAS A MISTAKE
23:42:54 <Sgeo> IT'S A FAKE
23:42:59 <shachaf> `welcome ?where ?where `welcome
23:43:04 <HackEgo> ​?where: ?where: `welcome: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
23:43:05 <elliott> fizzie: ping
23:43:12 <shachaf> Aw.
23:43:33 <oerjan> ?ru: 2+2
23:43:33 <lambdabot> 4
23:43:49 <Sgeo> ru?
23:43:52 <Sgeo> ?do: 2+2
23:43:52 <lambdabot> 2 + 2
23:43:53 <oerjan> oh wait it's the invisible space
23:43:55 <Sgeo> Ah
23:43:57 <elliott> fizzie: ping ping ping ping
23:44:03 <elliott> oerjan: did you like my botloop
23:44:08 <shachaf> oerjan: There's also an mabiguity with ?where+
23:44:21 <oerjan> elliott: there was a botloop? i may not have got that far.
23:44:49 <oerjan> shachaf: shocking
23:44:51 <elliott> oerjan: you're in for a treat
23:45:03 <shachaf> elliott: Am I in for a treat?
23:45:06 <shachaf> I don't read logs.
23:45:06 <elliott> admittedly it required fizzie's cooperation.
23:45:07 <elliott> shachaf: no
23:45:12 <shachaf> :-(
23:45:16 <shachaf> Can I be in for a treat?
23:45:50 <elliott> no
23:45:56 <oerjan> <elliott_> if it's on the list of ideas, it doesn't exist yet <-- well in theory.
23:45:59 <shachaf> @where okokok
23:45:59 <lambdabot> ^ok abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabca
23:45:59 <lambdabot> `welcome fdhsfdsgdsg
23:46:03 <HackEgo> fdhsfdsgdsg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
23:46:56 <elliott> shachaf: YOU RUINED IT FOR OERJAN
23:47:01 <elliott> oerjan: kick shachaf for ruining the magic
23:47:06 * oerjan swats shachaf -----###
23:47:11 <elliott> no
23:47:12 <elliott> not swat
23:47:14 <elliott> kick
23:47:16 <elliott> i know they sound similar
23:47:28 <shachaf> `swat elliott
23:47:32 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: swat: not found
23:47:38 <oerjan> the keys are like right next to each other
23:48:41 <shachaf> `run echo -ne '#!/bin/bash\necho "/me swats $@ -----###"\n' > bin/swat; chmod +x bin/swat
23:48:44 <HackEgo> No output.
23:49:00 <shachaf> Obviously that'll work with /me instead of \SOMETHING ACTION, right?
23:49:02 <shachaf> `swat elliott
23:49:06 <HackEgo> ​/me swats elliott -----###
23:49:21 <shachaf> See?
23:49:43 <elliott> `rm bin/swat
23:49:46 <HackEgo> No output.
23:50:48 <oerjan> sheesh
23:51:04 <shachaf> `run echo -ne '#!/bin/bash\necho "\001ACTION swats $@ -----###\001"\n' > bin/swat; chmod +x bin/swat
23:51:07 <elliott> `rm bin/swat
23:51:08 <HackEgo> No output.
23:51:08 <shachaf> `swat swat
23:51:10 <elliott> That won't even work.
23:51:10 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `bin/swat': No such file or directory
23:51:14 <elliott> `rm bin/swat
23:51:17 <HackEgo> No output.
23:51:21 <oerjan> elliott: you're being horribly rude, you know that?
23:51:22 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: swat: not found
23:52:07 <elliott> oerjan: Don't worry, shachaf is used to it.
23:52:41 <shachaf> :-(
23:52:46 <shachaf> `run echo -ne '#!/bin/bash\necho "\001ACTION swats $@ -----###\001"\n' > bin/swat; chmod +x bin/swat
23:52:49 <HackEgo> No output.
23:52:49 <shachaf> `swat elliott
23:52:52 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: swat: not found
23:52:56 <shachaf> `swat elliott
23:52:59 <HackEgo> ​.ACTION swats elliott -----###.
23:53:03 <elliott> I told you it wouldn't work.
23:53:05 <elliott> `rm bin/swat
23:53:08 <HackEgo> No output.
23:53:14 <shachaf> Stop rming my bin/swat
23:53:36 <elliott> Stop having a broken bin/swat.
23:53:46 <shachaf> elliott: Who said it was broken?
23:53:52 <shachaf> It matches the specification perfectly.
23:54:17 <elliott> I don't like the specification.
23:55:36 <oerjan> !help languages
23:55:37 <EgoBot> ​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh.
23:55:53 <oerjan> ^ul (<CTCP>ACTION test<CTCP>)
23:56:00 <oerjan> ^ul (<CTCP>ACTION test<CTCP>)S
23:56:00 * fungot test
23:56:07 <oerjan> !help
23:56:07 <EgoBot> ​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help <command>.
23:56:23 <oerjan> !bf_txtgen <CTCP>ACTION swats s
23:56:27 <EgoBot> ​159 ++++++++++++[>>+++>+++++>+++++++<<<<-]>+.>>+++++.++.>.<++++++.++++++.-.<----.>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.++++.>+++++++++++++.<---.-.<.>.<<+++++++++. [717]
23:57:06 <oerjan> !bf_txtgen ACTION swats -----###
23:57:08 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection).
23:57:09 <EgoBot> ​176 +++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>+.....<+++...-------------------------. [222]
23:57:42 -!- augur has joined.
23:58:45 <oerjan> ^def swat bf +.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>>,[.,]<<.>+.....<+++...-------------------------.>>+.
23:58:45 <fungot> Defined.
23:58:49 <oerjan> ^swat elliott
23:58:49 * fungot swats elliott -----###.
23:58:53 <oerjan> oops
23:59:10 <oerjan> ^swat elliott
23:59:10 * fungot swats elliott -----###.
23:59:25 <elliott> ^def swat bf
23:59:26 <fungot> Usage: ^def <command> <lang> <code>
23:59:31 <elliott> fungot: You suck.
23:59:31 <oerjan> hm it's that pesky space of tab expansion again
23:59:31 <fungot> elliott: forking is so nice ( perhaps for performance reasons
23:59:34 <elliott> ^def swat ul ()
23:59:34 <fungot> Defined.
23:59:54 <shachaf> ^def swat bf +.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>>,[.,]<<.>+.....<+++...-------------------------.>>+.
23:59:54 <fungot> Defined.
23:59:55 <oerjan> oh that . is wrong
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