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00:02:33 <elliott> nooga: huh
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00:20:15 <quintopia> elliott: nooga: huh
00:21:57 <elliott> huh
00:25:33 <elliott> https://blogs.oracle.com/projectfortress/entry/fortress_wrapping_up oh dear
00:27:28 <nooga> what an awkward name
00:27:48 <elliott> Fortress?
00:34:38 <nooga> y
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00:58:30 <nooga> i think i'll go to sleep
00:59:00 <elliott> what a silly idea
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01:05:43 <nooga> I guess i'm getting old
01:07:19 <nooga> oh, please let me know if you succeed in sending some data from brogue - I'd love to help with that patch
01:08:05 <elliott> thanks! I will certainly push on with it
01:08:14 <nooga> gn8
01:08:28 <elliott> gn9
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01:59:50 <Sgeo_> Is the version of SICP that seems to be making the rounds substantially different from the SICP from MIT?
02:01:27 <elliott> "Making the rounds"?
02:04:55 <Sgeo_> On /r/programming and also the Clojure facebook page linked to it
02:06:10 <elliott> http://sicpebook.wordpress.com/ebook/ it seems it is adequately described here
02:10:23 <Sgeo_> hmm
02:10:29 <Sgeo_> I'm already using an epub version
02:10:45 <Sgeo_> Haven't touched it in a while though, I should resume
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02:56:46 <elliott> omg
02:56:48 <elliott> monqy: nsqx is back
02:56:58 <monqy> omg
02:56:58 <coppro> lies
02:57:16 <elliott> (Move log); 16:22 . . NSQX (Talk | contribs | block) moved page User:NSQX/CPUFuck.cpp to User:NSQX/CPUFuck.c ‎
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03:10:07 <Sgeo_> Is that the guy who wanted to use a bot to make a lot of pages?
03:10:57 <shachaf> monqy: Today I tried to type "monkey island".
03:11:03 <shachaf> Except it came out "monqy island".
03:11:10 <shachaf> I don't know why I confused the two. :-(
03:11:16 <monqy> :-(
03:11:29 <shachaf> monqy: It's OK. :-)
03:11:39 <monqy> :-)
03:12:53 <shachaf> monqy: Anyway, hopefully I won't confuse them again. �-�
03:16:27 <elliott> Sgeo_: yes
03:28:29 <Sgeo_> Is NSQX talking to himself?
03:28:44 <Sgeo_> Well, ok, I guess that's not so bad. Deciding one thing and then changing his mind if he decides he's wrong
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06:38:32 <mroman> @tell AnotherTest It's required for displaying results as HTML
06:38:32 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
06:38:39 <mroman> 9.*1.+9 1r~
06:38:39 <lambdabot> mroman: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
06:38:53 <mroman> ^- binary increment. How it works is left as an exercise for the reader :D
06:40:13 <mroman> It only involves black magic.
06:46:10 <mroman> http://eso.mroman.ch/cgi/burlesque.cgi?q={100+110+111}{9.*1.%2B9+1r~}m[
06:50:38 <mroman> 9.*1.-9 1r~8 0r~ would be decrement.
06:56:48 <mroman> @messages
06:56:48 <lambdabot> AnotherTest said 11h 54m 28s ago: http://esolangs.org/wiki/HELP_(Preprocessor) I find some alternatives rather useful when writing burlesque code.
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07:32:02 <shachaf> 00:31 <ion> you’re wachaf
07:32:10 <shachaf> kmc: I'm totally wachaf!
07:32:19 <kmc> nice
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08:29:09 <oerjan> @messages
08:29:09 <lambdabot> Taneb said 12h 19m 21s ago: I got bored of Sheldon... on the comic for the 9th of March, 2012
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08:34:15 <oerjan> @tell Taneb Do you have many of these 95% finished projects?
08:34:15 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
09:02:50 * oerjan wonders if he has seen the characters from today's google doodle somewhere else...
09:07:49 <oerjan> well they're definitely _not_ the games mascots
09:08:21 <Vorpal> the game mascots are utterly silly btw
09:10:20 <oerjan> duh
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09:15:33 <itidus21> oh no i missed it
09:15:36 <itidus21> humm
09:15:50 <itidus21> no matter
09:16:16 <itidus21> could see it on the web if i really cared
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09:20:54 <oerjan> missed what
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10:07:19 <itidus21> opening ceremony
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10:44:57 <Phantom_Hoover> XChat is defaulting to connecting to eu-irc.net for some reason.
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11:06:50 <nooga> http://cl.ly/image/2D0U1O0k0F2e haha
11:09:49 <Sgeo_> Dylan seems to be trying to make a revival
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11:10:01 <Sgeo_> Phantom_Hoover, when does Red Dwarf start to suck?
11:10:10 <Sgeo_> I know you said season 8 sucks, but seasons before that?
11:10:10 <Phantom_Hoover> Season 7.
11:10:17 <Sgeo_> Ah. I finished season 7.
11:10:20 <Phantom_Hoover> I wasn't so fond of 6 but it's solid enough.
11:10:58 <Sgeo_> Is a dynamic, statically-typed language too much to ask for?
11:15:27 <Jafet> http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/DeferErrorsToRuntime
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11:16:56 <Jafet> Aww: "Currently we cannot defer kind errors because we do not create coercions for kind equalities."
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11:37:35 <Sgeo_> <Associat0r> ?alternatives
11:37:35 <Sgeo_> <dbot> alternatives == Modern alternative Systems Langua
11:37:40 <Sgeo_> <Associat0r> !reset alternatives Modern alternative Systems Languages to D: Rust, ATS, Deca, Score, Epoch, Disciple(DDC), Idris
11:37:56 <Sgeo_> Due to Neat's unconstrained null
11:38:10 <Sgeo_> Oh wait that second line got cut off
11:38:20 <Sgeo_> <dbot> alternatives == Modern alternative Systems Languages to D: Rust, ATS, Deca, Score, Epoch, Neat, Disciple(DDC), Idris
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14:08:13 <Sgeo_> Dylan seems interesting
14:08:24 <quintopia> hi Sgeo_
14:08:43 <Sgeo_> If only the ecosystem wasn't so bad that there isn't even a version for 64-bit Windows and no GUI stuff for anything other than Windows
14:09:12 <Sgeo_> Hi quintopia
14:10:02 <quintopia> do you ever do anything but try new languages
14:10:34 <Sgeo_> Occasionally
14:11:32 <quintopia> like what
14:12:26 <Sgeo_> Wrote a quick script to make a single HTML file recently.
14:12:41 <Sgeo_> Did some stuff in Second Life less recently, and intend to resume that
14:13:08 <Sgeo_> Intend to write an IRC bot once Homestuck starts updating again
14:13:08 <Sgeo_> n
14:20:36 <quintopia> that yells about updates whenever they happen?
14:20:43 <quintopia> arent there already botsthat do that
14:21:16 <Sgeo_> Yeah, but I want my bot to ping people who opt in, and also do similar for Hussie's twitter and tumblr
14:36:25 <Sgeo_> I am so bored
14:36:46 <Sgeo_> I seem to get bored more easily when I'm waiting for something than when I don't have anything to do
14:48:23 <coppro> BST is UTC+1, right?
14:48:46 <Phantom_Hoover> Yyeeeessss.... yes.
14:48:48 <coppro> so 6 hours give or take to olympics?
14:48:50 <coppro> err
14:48:54 <coppro> right, see I screwed up there
14:48:55 <coppro> 7 hours
14:49:04 <coppro> (9pm bst)
14:49:07 <coppro> ... no wait
14:49:10 <coppro> 5 hours?
14:49:13 <coppro> I CAN MATH
14:50:08 <mroman> Good.
14:50:21 <mroman> I can't ;)
14:52:24 <mroman> I think I have some latent dyscalculia but nobody seems to realize it :D
14:53:45 <mroman> Things I do wrong during linear algebra
14:53:50 <mroman> 4-0 = -4
14:54:25 <mroman> Things I do wrong in Analysis: x^2 + (y-4)^2 = 0 <- unsolvable
14:56:28 <mroman> I usually only get 50% of the maximum points because of such little mistakes
14:56:44 <mroman> if it weren't for partial points I'd failed years ago.
15:03:12 <coppro> haha
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15:34:18 <elliott> "With permission of Pender, author of Brogue, I have released a (not the official) port of Brogue as a paid app on the Android market.
15:34:19 <elliott> Note that it is expensively priced to discourage casual purchase, or haphazard installation."
15:34:24 <elliott> haphazard installation
15:34:48 <Phantom_Hoover> ,wow
15:34:50 <Phantom_Hoover> how much
15:35:28 <elliott> apparently 1 pound 27 pence is expensive
15:35:44 <Phantom_Hoover> oh i thought it would be like 30
15:36:10 <Phantom_Hoover> so what, is it to keep them damn casuals out
15:37:38 <elliott> idk
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15:42:18 <quintopia> because a game is likely to be installed in such a way that it bricks your phone, of course
15:42:56 <quintopia> i've bricked twelve phones that way
15:46:39 <nooga> ah
15:47:40 <quintopia> nooga: ah
15:49:12 <itidus21> is that a joke?
15:50:53 <elliott> nooga: ah
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16:06:35 <nooga> aha!
16:07:28 <nooga> why do dentists in UK are so bad and expensive?
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16:10:51 <quintopia> nooga: i don't know. why?
16:11:35 <nooga> when I was in London I got a terrible toothache
16:12:08 <nooga> so I went to a dentist and the visit was even more terrible than the ache
16:12:53 <nooga> I paid 100 pounds for x-ray photo and hearing that the tooth is broken and it needs to be fixed or extracted
16:13:14 <nooga> and the first procedure would cost me 270 pounds on top of that 100
16:13:17 <nooga> :D
16:13:26 <quintopia> D:
16:13:37 <nooga> so basically the dentist did nothing, she couldn't even prescribe painkillers
16:13:41 <Phantom_Hoover> Dentists are expensive because they're only partly funded by the NHS.
16:14:21 <Phantom_Hoover> So I think it's pretty cheap if you're under the NHS's discounts.
16:15:14 <nooga> well - I wasn't
16:15:16 <nooga> BUT
16:15:34 <nooga> the whole surgery room was a mess, it looked like taken straight from 60's
16:15:43 <nooga> except for the chair
16:16:48 <Phantom_Hoover> Can't speak for that, my surgery is dated but in good order.
16:17:21 <nooga> I went back to Poland and seen my dentist (private practice) and got the tooth done for something like 60 pounds
16:17:59 <nooga> with modern equipment
16:18:55 <nooga> so the airline ticket + the procedure was cheaper than this whole useless visit
16:21:09 <quintopia> nice
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16:24:50 <nooga> yeah
16:26:55 <nooga> elliott: I wonder how is it possible to play brogue on a phone ;/
16:27:17 <Vorpal> nooga, what about tablets?
16:27:34 <nooga> i'm porting it to iPad retina
16:27:50 <Vorpal> could work, probably suboptimal though
16:27:55 <nooga> but the guy who makes the android port uses some kind of a smartphone
16:28:02 <Vorpal> oh?
16:28:05 <elliott> nooga: I think it'll work on most things if you have some kind of viewport zooming/scrolling
16:28:18 <elliott> so you can flick around the viewport and it moves with you
16:28:20 <nooga> it can be pretty annoying
16:28:34 <nooga> based from what i've seen in HoMM II for android
16:28:39 <Vorpal> elliott, sure it will /work/ but input is probably terrible unless completely changed
16:28:46 <Vorpal> nooga, HoMM?
16:28:51 <elliott> well brogue is pretty mouse-supporting already
16:28:55 <Vorpal> hm
16:28:55 <nooga> heroes of might and magic
16:29:09 <nooga> and SDL port for android
16:29:11 <Vorpal> elliott, a mouse is also way more precise than a finger
16:29:26 <elliott> Vorpal: thus the zooming
16:29:44 <Vorpal> still pretty clunky
16:30:03 <quintopia> i can see roguelikes working on my phone pretty well. it has a hwk with dir pad.
16:30:14 <Vorpal> quintopia, hwk?
16:30:29 <nooga> aaah
16:30:37 <nooga> the sun is killing meeeee
16:31:24 <Vorpal> quintopia, what do you mean with "hwk"?
16:32:57 <quintopia> hardware keyboard
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16:33:05 <Vorpal> ah well yes that would definitely help
16:33:18 <Vorpal> quintopia, now imagine playing it on a phone that is all screen, like the galaxy nexus
16:33:24 <Vorpal> won't work as well
16:33:42 <quintopia> well, you'd have to adapt the interface for sure
16:33:46 <quintopia> but that's true of all games
16:33:50 <Vorpal> indeed
16:34:32 <quintopia> but roguelikes dont really require typing things most of the time, so adaptation should be straightforward if effortful
16:34:53 <Vorpal> dpad certainly helps, without one you are going to run into issues with making sure the user sees enough of the world on the screen while still keeping it readable and also clickable
16:34:53 <quintopia> aka, all actions can be done by tapping instead
16:35:01 <Vorpal> and zooming out and in all the time is not that fun
16:36:05 <elliott> dpads are impractical for existing roguelikes
16:36:06 <Vorpal> quintopia, the thing is, tapping is imprecise compared to a mouse. So you need a much larger area to click on than with a mouse
16:36:08 <elliott> diagonal movement is incredibly importnat
16:36:14 <quintopia> Vorpal: replace the onscreen dpad with the ability to tap a destination and have a route automatically found to it. if you need fine-grained movement, tape the corresponding edge of the screen instead
16:36:17 <elliott> anyway brogue has a good interface for relatively imprecise taps
16:36:19 <Vorpal> elliott, I assumed he meant a 8 dir dpad?
16:37:03 <quintopia> Vorpal: irrelevant. it's a full keyboard. i could use qweasdzxc
16:37:16 <Vorpal> what about doing the stuff chrome on android does when you click a link when zoomed out and there are multiple possible links you could have clicked on?
16:37:23 <quintopia> dunno what s would do tho :P
16:37:34 <Vorpal> showing a small pop-upish thing with a zoomed in view of those so you can click which one you meant
16:37:36 <quintopia> opera mini does that too
16:37:45 <Vorpal> it responds a bit slow
16:37:50 <Vorpal> even on a Galaxy S3
16:38:16 <quintopia> no? opera mini is great mobile broswer. i use it for half of all surfing
16:38:23 <Vorpal> I meant in chrome at least
16:38:33 <quintopia> oh
16:38:35 <Vorpal> quintopia, opera mini is kind of buggy under ICS wrt multi tasking
16:38:38 <Vorpal> at least for me
16:38:58 <quintopia> yeah me too
16:39:00 <quintopia> but it doesnt matter
16:39:13 <Vorpal> well, it is annoying enough for me that I don't use opera mini thus
16:39:52 <quintopia> ah. it's easy enough to launch it agaain the regular way, because it's not actually quit, just doesnt show up in the app list all the time.
16:39:57 <quintopia> it always saves all state
16:40:05 <quintopia> bettter than other broswers
16:40:14 <Vorpal> quintopia, I had to open the app info and select force close to make it work again a couple of times
16:40:18 <Vorpal> stopped using it after that
16:40:25 <quintopia> oh i never had that
16:40:43 <quintopia> i have to do that with irssi connectbot sometimes
16:41:17 <quintopia> i use dolphin hd when i need private browsing, javascript, or flash
16:41:21 <Vorpal> quintopia, what does irssi have to do with connectbot?
16:41:28 <quintopia> i have it routed through orbot/tor
16:42:00 <quintopia> Vorpal: "irssi connectbot" is the full name of the app. it is a branch of connectbot
16:42:06 <Vorpal> oh okay
16:42:13 <Vorpal> quintopia, how does it differ from connectbot?
16:42:30 <quintopia> adds support for certain irssi specific gestures
16:42:49 <Vorpal> irssi gestures eh
16:43:03 <Vorpal> are you running irssi locally then? Or remotely?
16:43:08 <quintopia> like double-tap/camera button to switch to active channel, swipe to move up or down channel number or scroll up and down in the channel
16:43:13 <quintopia> remotely
16:43:48 <Vorpal> your phone seems to have an absurd amount of hardware buttons :P
16:43:57 <Vorpal> what model is it
16:44:05 <quintopia> it doesnt have a camera button
16:44:08 <quintopia> but my old phone did
16:44:10 <Vorpal> ah
16:44:59 <quintopia> this is a D3. it has a 5-row keyboard, a power button, and a volume up/down switch
16:45:15 <quintopia> then the standard four soft menu buttons below the touchscreen
16:46:16 <quintopia> irssi connectbot uses the volume switch to change the screen resolution. regular connectbot probably does the same.
16:48:05 <Vorpal> hm
16:48:07 <Vorpal> D3?
16:48:12 <Vorpal> which brand is that
16:48:47 <Vorpal> quintopia, anyway connectbot never had problems with multitasking for me
16:49:39 <Vorpal> I don't use the market version of it though, since I decided to write for it not multiplying the font sizes with the DPI scaling factor
16:49:46 <Vorpal> so I use the git version
16:50:02 <Vorpal> s/write for/write a patch for/
16:51:09 <quintopia> Vorpal: motorola. the problem is that every now and then, the alt button quits working, so you can't type symbols without holding it down while typing, which is annoying and nonintuitive by now.
16:51:59 <Vorpal> quintopia, hardware glitch?
16:52:05 <Vorpal> or software bug
16:52:17 <quintopia> Vorpal: killing and restarting connectbot fixes it.
16:52:24 <Vorpal> hm
16:54:42 <Vorpal> there are a few other things I have been thinking about patching in connectbot
16:55:11 <Vorpal> can't really help you with the issue you have, since I don't have a hardware alt key, nor a hardware keyboard at all
16:55:31 <Vorpal> what I want to add is a easy to way to send tab
17:00:35 <nooga> time for Brogue session
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17:16:48 <nooga> hoooh
17:16:54 <nooga> killed by jackal at level 4
17:16:54 <nooga> ;/
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17:18:57 <elliott> nooga: a jackal? nice
17:22:36 <nooga> there was no equipment
17:22:51 <nooga> and I've missed a machine room
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18:41:49 <Taneb> Hello
18:41:49 <lambdabot> Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
18:42:54 <Taneb> Man, I've forgotten the context for that
18:43:29 <Taneb> Logs say I didn't know it in the first place, but now I do
18:43:40 <Taneb> @tell oerjan Thousands upon thousands
18:43:40 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
19:00:30 <quintopia> hi taneb
19:00:36 <Taneb> Hi
19:00:36 <quintopia> hi zzo38
19:00:42 <quintopia> hi ais523
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19:21:04 <Taneb> Hello, oerjan
19:21:24 <quintopia> hi oerjan
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19:27:45 <Taneb> @where pi10
19:27:45 <lambdabot> I know nothing about pi10.
19:27:53 <Taneb> @where my hat
19:27:53 <lambdabot> I know nothing about my.
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19:31:54 <oerjan> hi all
19:31:55 <lambdabot> oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
19:31:59 <oerjan> @messages
19:31:59 <lambdabot> Taneb said 48m 19s ago: Thousands upon thousands
19:32:04 <oerjan> thought so.
19:32:33 * oerjan uses the more clever method of 5% finished projects
19:32:54 <oerjan> pi10?
19:33:16 <Taneb> Trying to remember that thing I think it was shachaf made
19:33:29 <shachaf> Taneb: What thing?
19:33:34 <Taneb> The pi thing?
19:33:38 <elliott> @whereis e10
19:33:38 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: where where+
19:33:41 <elliott> @where e10
19:33:41 <lambdabot> I know nothing about e10.
19:33:45 <elliott> @where pi
19:33:45 <lambdabot> I know nothing about pi.
19:33:45 <shachaf> @where pi_10
19:33:45 <lambdabot> (!!1)<$>transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:33:49 <shachaf> @where e_10
19:33:49 <lambdabot> let(p,q)%d=p*d`div`q;w(p,q)i=(p*i+1,q*i);(x:y:s)^d|y%d>x%d=s^d|0<1=mod(x%d)10:s^(10*d)in 2:scanl w(1,1)[1..]^10>>=show
19:33:51 <Taneb> That be the one
19:33:51 <shachaf> @where pi_11
19:33:51 <lambdabot> [show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])!!n|n<-[0..]]
19:33:56 <Taneb> That be the three
19:34:24 <oerjan> > (!!1)<$>transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:34:25 <lambdabot> "31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062...
19:35:40 <oerjan> hm (!!1)<$>transpose seems like something that should be simplifable
19:35:54 <shachaf> Taneb: Golf it!
19:35:58 <shachaf> oerjan: Golf it!
19:36:10 <Taneb> shachaf, I'm too busy deobfuscating it
19:36:13 <shachaf> We'd love to get rid of (!!1)<$>transpose
19:36:23 <Taneb> ghci
19:36:33 <Taneb> Wrong window?
19:36:35 <Taneb> Damn
19:36:42 <oerjan> > [show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:36:43 <lambdabot> ["312","31420","314159268","31415926535897940","314159265358979323846264338...
19:36:50 <shachaf> oerjan: But keep in mind edge cases of how transpose works.
19:36:58 <Taneb> I've just got a new computer, and I need to get wifi on it
19:37:06 <Taneb> But it's really fast and it's scarily fast
19:37:18 <oerjan> hmph
19:37:21 <Taneb> And I'm expecting this laptop to be as fast as it
19:39:01 <oerjan> > [show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])!!n|n<-[0..]]
19:39:04 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
19:39:08 <oerjan> > [show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])!!n|n<-[0..]]
19:39:11 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
19:39:14 <oerjan> bah
19:39:28 <Taneb> > (!!1) <$> [show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:39:31 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
19:39:47 <Taneb> The transpose... is there for strictness?
19:40:03 <shachaf> No.
19:40:03 <oerjan> > transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:40:06 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
19:40:23 <oerjan> > transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:40:26 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
19:40:32 <oerjan> oh wait
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19:41:23 <oerjan> > head<$>transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:41:24 <lambdabot> "31220926835897940384626433832796428841971693993751058209749445916078164062...
19:41:45 <oerjan> hm why do you need (!!1)
19:41:47 <olsner> that's not pi
19:41:56 <oerjan> i know that much
19:42:11 <olsner> it's pretty close in some places though
19:42:19 <oerjan> oh right
19:42:22 <Taneb> Try it with (!!2)
19:42:34 <oerjan> > (!!2)<$>transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:42:37 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
19:42:46 <oerjan> > (!!2)<$>transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
19:42:50 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
19:43:17 <oerjan> i expect that's the same as (!!1), after a bit of thought
19:43:39 <oerjan> the (!!1) is because only the _second_ number to give a certain digit is sure to get it right
19:44:03 <Taneb> @where pi_11
19:44:03 <lambdabot> [show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])!!n|n<-[0..]]
19:44:12 <nooga> uhm
19:44:40 <nooga> who likes SciFi novels?
19:44:59 <olsner> readers of scifi novels
19:44:59 <Taneb> I like some of them?
19:46:07 <nooga> here's one for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem_XIV
19:46:45 <Taneb> But I've got Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep, Second Foundation, AND The Stainless Steel Rat's Revenge to read!
19:47:12 <oerjan> ok (!!1)<$>transpose is actually very clever for the purpose and i'm not sure it can be improved upon
19:50:26 <nooga> ugh
19:50:31 <nooga> it looks like perl
19:50:57 <oerjan> well it's obfuscated/golfed, of course
19:52:43 <oerjan> > (0$0.&.)
19:52:44 <lambdabot> The operator `Data.Bits..&.' [infixl 7] of a section
19:52:44 <lambdabot> must have lower p...
19:53:04 <oerjan> > (0$0*)
19:53:05 <lambdabot> The operator `GHC.Num.*' [infixl 7] of a section
19:53:05 <lambdabot> must have lower prece...
19:53:12 <Taneb> @info $
19:53:12 <lambdabot> ($)
19:53:18 <Taneb> @src ($)
19:53:18 <lambdabot> f $ x = f x
19:53:24 <Taneb> @fixity ($)
19:53:24 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
19:53:33 <oerjan> > (0$0$)
19:53:33 <lambdabot> The operator `GHC.Base.$' [infixr 0] of a section
19:53:34 <lambdabot> must have lower prec...
19:53:55 <oerjan> the trick works precisely because $ has that fixity, even for $ itself
19:54:26 <oerjan> and because of the way ghc gives precedence errors
19:54:46 <Taneb> :)
19:56:29 <oerjan> 0 is just an arbitrary atomic expression, of course, since this never gets to the type checking stage
20:04:24 * oerjan wonders if anyone else is not watching the ceremony
20:04:56 <elliott> i'm watching a guy from ##crawl almost die in acehack
20:05:15 <oerjan> ah, a fine connoiseur of entertainment
20:05:25 <elliott> it's beautiful
20:06:35 <shachaf> > (!!1).transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
20:06:38 <lambdabot> "31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062...
20:06:40 <shachaf> oerjan: Except that's lambdabot-cheating.
20:06:59 <oerjan> shachaf: i know. i wasn't even bothering to suggest it :P
20:08:42 <oerjan> > [8-i.&.3*4| i <- [0..3]]
20:08:43 <lambdabot> Ambiguous type variable `t' in the constraints:
20:08:43 <lambdabot> `Data.Bits.Bits t'
20:08:43 <lambdabot> ...
20:08:50 <oerjan> > [8-i.&.3*4| i <- [0..3::Int]]
20:08:51 <lambdabot> [8,4,0,-4]
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20:10:14 <shachaf> edwardk has a file with a history that pi_10 went through.
20:10:40 <oerjan> i guess that's pretty golfed, then
20:11:38 <Phantom_Hoover> Wow, I saw a comment where someone said that it's ridiculous that Americans value having above-average pay because everyone should have that.
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20:15:11 <oerjan> @where pi_11
20:15:11 <lambdabot> [show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])!!n|n<-[0..]]
20:15:23 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: well they probably meant lowering the baseline so that everybody has what would have been considered above-average beforehand?
20:16:06 <Phantom_Hoover> Well... "I dont know what the USA is like by bragging about being paid above-average wage isnt particularly a good thing in any industry; you should all have it."
20:16:23 <Phantom_Hoover> Doesn't really sound like they're saying the average American wage is too low.
20:17:02 <oerjan> > [show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])|n<-[0..]]
20:17:05 <lambdabot> ["32","312","31420","314159268","31415926535897940","3141592653589793238462...
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20:17:38 <oerjan> > (!!1)<$>transpose[show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])|n<-[0..]]
20:17:42 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
20:17:54 <oerjan> @where pi_10
20:17:54 <lambdabot> (!!1)<$>transpose[show$sum[100^2^n`div`(a^i*i)*(8-i.&.3*4)|i<-[1,3..9*2^n],a<-[2,3]]|n<-[0..]]
20:18:22 <oerjan> (!!1)<$>transpose[show(sum[(8-i.&.3*4)*div(10^2^n)(a^i*i)|i<-[1,3..3^n],a<-[2,3]])|n<-[0..]]
20:19:03 <oerjan> i guess that's slightly shorter, but too hard for lambdabot to calculate?
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20:31:16 <Taneb> Well, I've turned my factorial program into ART
20:31:51 <oerjan> i thought it was art already
20:32:02 <Taneb> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7u5samb5G1rysy5go1_500.png
20:32:10 <Taneb> SCARY ART
20:32:39 <Phantom_Hoover> damn that's scary
20:33:21 <quintopia> what is your goal in creating such a ridiculous factorial program
20:33:50 <Phantom_Hoover> You should probably find a different channel.
20:34:12 <quintopia> i think you misinterpret me
20:34:31 <Taneb> quintopia, it is a plea for help
20:34:34 <oerjan> help me i'm trapped in an unsafePerformIO factory
20:34:42 <quintopia> what i mean is: under what constraints was it written
20:35:11 <Taneb> Um, it's a demonstration that Applicatives are really powerful
20:35:23 <Taneb> Especially when combined with unsafeCoerce
20:35:52 <Taneb> Then I just had some fun with it
20:36:17 <oerjan> quintopia: Applicative (-> r), hth
20:36:24 <oerjan> wait
20:36:25 <Taneb> hth?
20:36:32 <Taneb> ((->) r)
20:36:35 <oerjan> *quintopia: Applicative (r ->), hth
20:36:41 <Taneb> define:hth
20:36:42 <shachaf> Functor
20:36:47 <oerjan> hope this helps
20:36:49 <Taneb> Okay
20:36:58 <Taneb> shachaf, I don't think I use fmap at all
20:37:03 <quintopia> would knowing haskell help
20:37:09 <Taneb> Oh, I do
20:37:13 <shachaf> Wait, misread.
20:37:16 <Taneb> quintopia, kinda
20:37:17 <quintopia> would knowing any categorry theory at all help
20:37:21 <Taneb> Probably not
20:37:36 <Taneb> I think Haskell made up Applicatives
20:37:39 <oerjan> gory cats
20:38:04 <oerjan> Taneb: they're supposedly equivalent to something categorical about products (tuples)
20:38:12 <elliott> if by haskell you mean conor mcbride
20:38:21 <elliott> oerjan: empty :: f (); pair :: f a -> f b -> f (a,b)
20:38:28 <elliott> oerjan: is equivalent, in Haskell, because all Haskell functors are strong, IIRC
20:38:34 <elliott> applicatives are ... strong lax monoidal functors?
20:38:42 <oerjan> something like that was the term
20:38:55 <Taneb> pure x = fmap (const x) empty?
20:39:11 <elliott> Taneb: yes, or empty <$ x
20:39:21 <elliott> (<*>) goes along the same lines too, it's simple to define
20:39:25 <Taneb> Yeah
20:39:29 <Taneb> Hmm
20:40:10 <oerjan> * x <$ empty, i think
20:40:14 <oerjan> :t (<$)
20:40:15 <lambdabot> forall a (f :: * -> *) b. (Functor f) => a -> f b -> f a
20:40:26 <Taneb> Or empty $> x?
20:40:28 <Taneb> :t ($>)
20:40:29 <lambdabot> Not in scope: `$>'
20:40:31 <Taneb> :(
20:42:26 <oerjan> :t (>$)
20:42:27 <lambdabot> Not in scope: `>$'
20:42:33 <oerjan> nah
20:42:57 <Taneb> $> is a thing
20:43:26 <oerjan> unlike <* vs. *> it's not really needed, however, because there is only one action so there's no alternative order to perform them in
20:44:03 <oerjan> :t (<*)
20:44:03 <lambdabot> forall (f :: * -> *) a b. (Applicative f) => f a -> f b -> f a
20:44:05 <oerjan> :t (*>)
20:44:06 <lambdabot> forall (f :: * -> *) a b. (Applicative f) => f a -> f b -> f b
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21:01:16 <nooga> uh
21:01:20 <nooga> still golfing?
21:01:50 <Taneb> Nah, we're discussing obfuscation and art now
21:04:53 <Taneb> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7u5samb5G1rysy5go1_500.png
21:07:01 <olsner> Taneb: what's with all the |s in that code?
21:07:26 <Taneb> olsner, bad rendering
21:07:29 <Taneb> Should be (s
21:07:56 <olsner> not only the code is obfuscated!
21:08:36 <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, ...why is that hosted on tumblr.
21:08:48 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, because I posted it on my tumblr
21:08:54 <Taneb> AND NOWHERE ELSE
21:09:04 <quintopia> !bfjoust a http://sprunge.us/CHIS
21:09:13 <EgoBot> ​Score for quintopia_a: 24.0
21:09:19 <quintopia> wowoweewow
21:09:31 <quintopia> what did i break
21:09:45 <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, I see your TV Tropes page.
21:09:54 <Taneb> I have one of those?
21:09:57 <Taneb> Oh yeah
21:10:16 <Phantom_Hoover> You think you have it bad, there's no way in hell the subtitler would get my name right.
21:11:13 <quintopia> ah right
21:11:20 <Taneb> The subversion of "This is not a drill" was a bit scary
21:11:36 <Taneb> I was on an aeroplane and the oxygen masks came down
21:11:50 <Phantom_Hoover> that is quite scary
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21:12:10 <olsner> oh, where was that?
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21:12:15 <Taneb> I have GOT to stop doing that
21:12:16 <Phantom_Hoover> i once woke up in the middle of the night with my heart pounding and a sharp pain in the left-middle part of my chest
21:12:26 <Phantom_Hoover> after i didn't die i concluded i'd probably pulled a muscle
21:12:45 <Taneb> olsner, somewhere over Asia, I believe
21:12:56 <Taneb> Asia or Europe
21:12:59 <Taneb> Eurasia
21:13:20 <olsner> actually I was referring to your tvtropes page
21:13:52 <Taneb> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Taneb
21:14:34 <Phantom_Hoover> (sorry, there are some things a man should be able to keep to himself)
21:14:51 <Taneb> (OH NO)
21:15:10 <Taneb> (IS IT ABOUT ME?)
21:15:24 <Taneb> (THE "SEX COD" NAME IS IRONIC)
21:15:44 <Phantom_Hoover> Having your presence elsewhere online dragged up is always embarassing!
21:16:28 <quintopia> !bfjoust a http://sprunge.us/BXBY
21:16:31 <EgoBot> ​Score for quintopia_a: 34.9
21:16:39 <quintopia> hmm
21:17:03 <Taneb> Nah, I'm me online
21:17:27 <Taneb> If you go up to me in real life with a webcam and a website saying "THIS IS TANEB IN REAL LIFE", that would be embarrassing
21:17:37 <Taneb> But online, I'm just one person
21:17:45 <Taneb> Well, three.
21:17:50 <Taneb> But really just one.
21:18:07 <Phantom_Hoover> Multiple web personality disorder.
21:18:42 <Taneb> There are a couple of places I go by "askit0"
21:18:56 <Taneb> Steam, for one
21:19:06 <Taneb> And there's a username I use when I want to be secret
21:19:10 <elliott> Is it "ngevd"
21:19:12 <Taneb> No
21:19:15 <Taneb> Well
21:19:16 <Taneb> Maybe
21:19:55 <oerjan> nathan gollum elliott van doorn
21:20:12 <Taneb> The G stands for George
21:20:25 <oerjan> ok i'll remember that for a couple of minutes
21:20:34 <Taneb> How crazy would it be if it stood for Gregor or something
21:20:42 <Taneb> Something here being glogbot
21:20:43 <oerjan> total madness
21:25:37 <Taneb> TIME TO SAY GOODBYE
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21:31:15 <quintopia> !bfjoust a http://sprunge.us/CieJ
21:31:18 <EgoBot> ​Score for quintopia_a: 65.1
21:31:22 <quintopia> much better
21:33:11 <elliott> good name
21:34:59 <quintopia> now if i could only do decoy size detection i could beat everything :P
21:53:16 <zzo38> ?messages
21:53:16 <lambdabot> Taneb said 1d 10h 42m 49s ago: There's no Peanoid or Copeanoid instance for Int8
21:53:16 <lambdabot> Taneb said 1d 9h 57m 52s ago: Neither does Word64
21:53:43 <zzo38> Taneb: Oops! Maybe I made a mistake
21:56:51 <zzo38> X-BIT seems down again; do you know when they are up again, or did they change the port number without notifying me or something like that?
21:59:17 <elliott> http://x-bit.org/ftelnet/ does not seem to work, so I would assume they are just temporarily down, since the website works?
22:01:13 <zzo38> O, so the computer is not down only the telnet service is down.
22:02:18 <elliott> ping(1) says so, yes.
22:10:25 <nooga> i wodner if one could try to breed bfjoust warriors using genetic algorithms
22:10:47 <elliott> it has been tried repeatedly
22:10:48 <elliott> to poor results
22:10:53 <nooga> oh
22:10:56 <elliott> well depending on your definition of genetic
22:11:00 <elliott> maybe fizzie's was catually genteic
22:11:02 <elliott> *actually genetic
22:11:49 <nooga> 23:15 < Taneb> (IS IT ABOUT ME?) <-- it looks like an ancient s-exp
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22:45:47 <LorenzoVon> hullo.
22:45:54 <shachaf> `welcome LorenzoVon
22:46:03 <LorenzoVon> thanks!
22:46:04 <HackEgo> LorenzoVon: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
22:46:30 <LorenzoVon> what,
22:46:34 <LorenzoVon> like...
22:46:40 <LorenzoVon> python
22:47:07 <zzo38> LorenzoVon: See wiki for information
22:47:19 <LorenzoVon> ok!
22:48:54 <soundnfury> As I said to someone else the other day... the esolang community exists to try to create a programming language more ludicrous and unusable than Haskell.
22:48:58 <soundnfury> We have yet to succeed.
22:49:06 <elliott> haskell is neither ludicrous nor unusable
22:49:15 <elliott> sort of like that joke is neither accurate nor amusing
22:49:52 <soundnfury> yeah well you /would/ say that
22:50:07 <LorenzoVon> haha!
22:50:12 <LorenzoVon> this
22:50:27 <LorenzoVon> I
22:50:35 <elliott> soundnfury: i am far from the only haskell programmer here :P
22:50:42 <Phantom_Hoover> soundnfury, obviously, on account of it being a correct summary.
22:51:11 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: thank you for the implication that correctness is typical of me
22:51:30 <Phantom_Hoover> Nonono, you misunderstand.
22:51:43 <Phantom_Hoover> You would say correct things, but you would also say incorrect things.
22:51:52 <Phantom_Hoover> The latter more often, obviously.
22:52:10 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: i take back my gratitude and replace your brain with a brick
22:52:38 <Phantom_Hoover> Little do you realise that I have unbounded brick/brain interchange abilities.
22:52:50 <elliott> i wrote the one-line definition of an esolang on the wiki, clearly i have infinite domain over what can be classed as an esolang or not
22:52:55 <elliott> fear my wrathful power
22:53:00 <elliott> oh wait there's someone new
22:53:01 <elliott> hi LorenzoVon
22:53:05 <soundnfury> you only have semi-infinite domain
22:53:09 <nooga> hi LorenzoVon
22:53:13 <soundnfury> because you're a Poisson distribution
22:53:20 <soundnfury> (and I'm less than zero)
22:53:35 <Phantom_Hoover> hi LorenzoVon, don't even think about making an awful xkcd reference like soundnfury just did
22:53:38 <soundnfury> http://xkcd.com/12
22:53:40 <Phantom_Hoover> also a brainfuck derivative
22:53:47 <Phantom_Hoover> ugh you linked it why why why
22:53:55 <soundnfury> Phantom_Hoover: to annoy you
22:53:59 <LorenzoVon> hey!
22:54:07 <soundnfury> because people who don't like xkcd references MUST be annoyed AT ALL TIMES
22:54:14 <LorenzoVon> sorry
22:54:22 <LorenzoVon> cheers,
22:54:25 <elliott> cheers,
22:54:31 <LorenzoVon> quit
22:54:36 <elliott> hi
22:54:38 <ais523> soundnfury: please, try being constructive
22:54:38 <lambdabot> ais523: You have 5 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
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22:54:55 <nooga> remember that chick who once wandered here because she thought that the channel is about magic & stuff?
22:54:58 <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, req. soundnfury be banned for noobscaring
22:55:12 <Phantom_Hoover> nooga, I don't remember any of them being female.
22:55:16 <elliott> nooga: if by "that chick" you mean "about 50 people", yes
22:55:16 <soundnfury> "noobscaring" == saying rude things about Haskell?
22:55:26 <nooga> i've seen only one huh
22:55:29 <Phantom_Hoover> making xkcd references
22:55:37 <ais523> soundnfury: have you ever seen Lazy K? it has the same issues as Haskell, and more besides
22:55:37 <shachaf> soundnfury: No, it's "caring about noobs"
22:55:51 <elliott> ais523: kick ais523 for anti-haskell sentiment :)
22:55:58 <shachaf> ais523: No, kick me!
22:56:05 <elliott> clearly ICA > Haskell
22:56:13 <ais523> elliott: depends on what you're using it for
22:56:27 <nooga> ASSKEL
22:56:33 <nooga> L
22:56:34 <ais523> @messages
22:56:34 <lambdabot> elliott asked 1d 4h 53m 43s ago: I thought killing a monster with a pet didn't give you death drops, re: gnomes and candles?
22:56:34 <lambdabot> elliott said 1d 2h 27m 43s ago: please fix the thing whereby you can't see which monsters you detected with the spell
22:56:34 <lambdabot> elliott said 1d 2h 27m 39s ago: pure interface screw
22:56:34 <lambdabot> elliott said 1d 2h 27m 28s ago: of course, they should be noted in some way to not be the current state of the level, say by greying them out
22:56:34 <lambdabot> elliott said 23h 38m 32s ago: also please fix wresting
22:56:46 <elliott> haha
22:56:50 <elliott> i forgot i said those
22:56:58 <shachaf> Please fix wrestling, ais523.
22:57:03 <elliott> lesson: don't let me watch a nethack game or i'll complain about it to ais523
22:57:32 <ais523> I personally find past-level-state marks more confusing than useful
22:57:36 <Phantom_Hoover> shachaf, an admirable goal considering how painful it is in DF.
22:57:43 <elliott> ais523: well, they should be accesible in /some/ way
22:57:43 <ais523> hate them in Crawl…
22:57:45 <Phantom_Hoover> Wait did I say painful I mean awesome.
22:57:50 <elliott> ais523: rather than making you memorise where the monsters were
22:57:51 <ais523> and this lead to a flamewar that pretty much killed TAEB development
22:57:54 <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, please implement DF's wrestling system.
22:57:58 <elliott> ais523: say, by pressing a key to bring up the screen you saw when last detecting monsters
22:58:05 <ais523> yep, that's more reasonable
22:58:07 <ais523> but it's a lot of work
22:58:20 <nooga> what was TAEB again?
22:58:24 <ais523> NetHack bot
22:58:27 <elliott> tactical amulet extraction bot
22:58:48 <elliott> ais523: (do you have any wresting plans; please don't say no; "removal" is perfectly acceptable)
22:59:09 <ais523> elliott: hmm, maybe I'll copy it from Slash'EM
22:59:12 <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, hmm, what specific thing is confusing about the system?
22:59:24 <Phantom_Hoover> Is it just that they're displayed the same way as monsters usually are?
22:59:42 <elliott> ais523: what does slash'em do
22:59:47 <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: even greyed-out, it frequently confuses newbies to Crawl, and I personally dislike it because there's no easy way to tell the age of the information
22:59:53 <ais523> elliott: it doesn't, I just wanted an amusing response
22:59:57 <ais523> one of the few things it doesn't have :)
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23:00:08 <elliott> ais523: I was very worried
23:00:21 <elliott> I don't really see that wresting adds any value, really
23:00:23 <elliott> welcome back LorenzoVonSmashi
23:00:32 <LorenzoVonSmashi> back!
23:01:09 <Phantom_Hoover> ignore soundnfury, he is bad, we are nice people
23:01:09 <LorenzoVonSmashi> except
23:01:31 <elliott> we're nice? :(
23:01:55 <LorenzoVonSmashi> so
23:03:24 <soundnfury> I'm nice too :'(
23:04:33 <Phantom_Hoover> nice people don't quote xkcd inappropriately
23:05:03 <LorenzoVonSmashi> oh,
23:05:14 <LorenzoVonSmashi> can't
23:05:39 * oerjan makes a brainfuck derivative for quoting xkcds
23:06:26 * oerjan thinks LorenzoVonSmashi is mixing up the space and return keys
23:08:35 <LorenzoVonSmashi> It's
23:08:59 <LorenzoVonSmashi> nick
23:09:24 -!- LorenzoVonSmashi has changed nick to VonSmashington.
23:10:14 <ais523> `addquote * oerjan makes a brainfuck derivative for quoting xkcds
23:10:18 <HackEgo> 854) * oerjan makes a brainfuck derivative for quoting xkcds
23:12:35 <VonSmashington> the
23:12:49 <elliott> hi
23:13:26 <Phantom_Hoover> VonSmashington, OK now, remember: press the long key between words, not the tall one.
23:14:53 <VonSmashington> wait,i,might,have,misprogrammed,my,client.Is,it,unfailingly,doing,that,or,is,it,only,sometimes?also,could,someone,double,check,his,statement,for,me?
23:15:08 <VonSmashington> (hence,the,comma,delimiter)
23:15:37 <oerjan> VonSmashington: you made your own client? i suspect you forgot to put a : before the message part of the PRIVMSG
23:15:40 <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah it's consistently doing that.
23:15:42 <elliott> VonSmashington: yes, that works
23:15:48 <elliott> so far all of your message have been exactly one word long :)
23:15:58 <elliott> before the comma ones
23:16:28 <shachaf> `quoerjan
23:16:29 <VonSmashington> how about now, is this better?
23:16:31 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoerjan: not found
23:16:40 <shachaf> `run echo "quote oerjan" > bin/quoerjan; chmod +x bin/quoerjan
23:16:40 <ais523> VonSmashington: yes!
23:16:41 <oerjan> much better
23:16:43 <HackEgo> No output.
23:16:44 <shachaf> `quoerjan
23:16:48 <HackEgo> 7) <oerjan> what, you mean that wasn't your real name? <Warrigal> Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 18) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 21) <oerjan> In an alternate universe, ehird has taste \ 22) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <oerjan> In an alternate
23:16:55 <shachaf> How do you get a random quote?
23:17:21 <oerjan> with a regexp? i don't think that's supported.
23:17:31 <olsner> `quote
23:17:35 <HackEgo> 90) <Warrigal> I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow.
23:17:36 <olsner> that's a random quote
23:17:43 <shachaf> A random quoerjan.
23:17:49 <shachaf> quørjan
23:18:02 <oerjan> `run quorjan | shuf -n 1
23:18:03 <VonSmashington> woo!
23:18:05 <HackEgo> bash: quorjan: command not found
23:18:10 <VonSmashington> ok, then i'll repost my previous message
23:18:12 <oerjan> `run quoerjan | shuf -n 1
23:18:15 <HackEgo> 22) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <oerjan> In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste"
23:18:19 <olsner> shachaf: a quoerjandom?
23:18:37 <VonSmashington> the client i've programmed doesn't show formatting, only raw unicode tcp data sent by the server. this usually is understandible, but since this is a programming channel, I'm slightly worried as to whether the server's formatting/whois data will trick me into ignoring programming jargon.
23:18:43 <shachaf> `run echo "quoerjan | shuf -n 1" > bin/quoerjandom; chmod +x bin/quoerjandom
23:18:46 <HackEgo> No output.
23:18:47 <shachaf> `quoerjandom
23:18:51 <HackEgo> 7) <oerjan> what, you mean that wasn't your real name? <Warrigal> Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that.
23:18:55 * oerjan is surprised he remembered that syntax right
23:19:08 <shachaf> `quoerjandom
23:19:09 <shachaf> `quoerjandom
23:19:09 <shachaf> `quoerjandom
23:19:09 <ais523> that is a surprisingly specific command
23:19:15 <ais523> `prevlog avocado
23:19:16 <HackEgo> 408) <Sgeo> Will anyone be irritated if I tend to disconnect and reconnect a lot? [...] <oerjan> we _almost_ have an established policy that bots will be banned it they do that. which means we might have to administer a turing test to sgeo, and that could get ugly.
23:19:23 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: prevlog: not found
23:19:26 <ais523> err, it's not that, is it?
23:19:27 <HackEgo> 201) <elliott> oerjan: What, can girls aim their penises better?
23:19:27 <HackEgo> 771) <Sgeo_> Why does CL get called functional? <oerjan> it's sort of like how you call ancient greece democratic.
23:19:30 <ais523> `pastlog avocado
23:19:40 <elliott> can we just delete the qdb
23:19:42 <elliott> it's all bad
23:19:56 <elliott> VonSmashington: zzo38's client does that too!
23:19:57 <ais523> elliott: you have to delete it 1 in 5 quotes at a time
23:19:57 <shachaf> elliott: But quote #... You know, that one!
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23:20:03 <HackEgo> No output.
23:20:03 <ais523> `quote
23:20:04 <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, more like you're bad
23:20:05 <shachaf> `run echo $((RANDOM % 500))
23:20:05 <ais523> `quote
23:20:07 <ais523> `quote
23:20:07 <elliott> VonSmashington: his syntax-highlights the irc protocol though
23:20:08 <ais523> `quote
23:20:10 <ais523> `quote
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23:20:16 <HackEgo> 528) <fizzie> They're (according to current plans/rumours) going to release a grand total of approximately 1.1 MeeGo devices; the N9, plus the N950 "developers only" phone, which I'm counting as 0.1 because (even though it is a MeeGo device) it's not going to actually be released.
23:20:18 <olsner> no, we can't delete all the quotes, we can only ask for 5 quotes and delete the worst ones
23:20:23 <HackEgo> 221) [CTCP] Received CTCP-ERRMSG reply from clog: unknown CTCP: ERRMSG.
23:20:24 <ais523> olsner: I already said that
23:20:28 <VonSmashington> I might have it do that
23:20:32 <ais523> OK, 221 is great
23:20:35 <olsner> ais523: ok
23:20:39 <HackEgo> 138
23:20:39 <ais523> 528 is meh
23:20:40 <HackEgo> 567) <fungot> CakeProphet: mr president, in the best egyptian judicial traditions has now been put off to friday. but i want my money back'. we know it generally deals with major infrastructure projects which could form part of the emergency package for korea, on christmas eve, in the interests of consumers and the environment of gmos.
23:20:41 <HackEgo> 622) <elliott> fizzie: It's like a JIT, if JITs were... strings.
23:20:42 <HackEgo> 160) <fizzie> (I've just been playing with myself.)
23:20:45 <olsner> ais523: it counts more when I say it
23:20:54 <ais523> 567 isn't so good for fungot
23:20:55 <fungot> ais523: i have expressed them when they may have a reform effected with one stroke of the pen. not so here. here, then, and to employ means, rather few, fnord, smugglers, and their interest, to raise the right honourable baronet's propositions respecting the produce of his labour." therefore do pilgrims in their beautiful example teach liberty, teach republican institutions, as at some other great conjunctures in our history, a
23:21:02 <ais523> 160 is not interesting
23:21:04 <tswett> elliott: so, it's like a string?
23:21:10 <elliott> i like how the botspam inevitably starts when someone new comes in
23:21:12 <ais523> 622 isn't too good either
23:21:21 <elliott> 622 is about tcl
23:21:30 <ais523> you know what, I'm going to be edgy and subversive and delete one without asking elliott's approval
23:21:33 <ais523> `delquote 160
23:21:33 <shachaf> elliott: Did you hear that adding nullary typeclass support to GHC consists of removing one line?
23:21:36 <HackEgo> ​*poof* <fizzie> (I've just been playing with myself.)
23:21:39 <elliott> ais523: whoa there!!!!
23:21:40 <olsner> elliott: everyone is so eager to show off the wonders of this channel
23:21:42 <elliott> get in line, mister!!!
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23:23:17 <VonSmashington> the pingponging is fantastic
23:23:23 <VonSmashington> i get to see it happen.
23:23:37 -!- shinmei has left.
23:24:41 <oerjan> shachaf: wait, how do you use a nullary typeclass?
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23:25:51 <shachaf> foo :: RiemannHypothesis => ... -> ...
23:25:59 <elliott> VonSmashington: I think freenode actually doesn't require pongs, amusingly
23:25:59 <shachaf> unsafePerformIO :: Unsafe => IO a -> a
23:26:16 <VonSmashington> interesting!
23:26:18 <VonSmashington> how does one timeout?
23:27:21 <oerjan> shachaf: huh
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23:31:03 <soundnfury> what're you using, VonSmashington, telnet?
23:31:12 <VonSmashington> no
23:31:19 <VonSmashington> I'm using a homeade client
23:31:38 <VonSmashington> just straight tcp on port 6667
23:32:15 <soundnfury> any reason your client doesn't support CTCP VERSION?
23:32:38 <VonSmashington> i have nothing programmed into it
23:32:52 <elliott> VonSmashington: you just timeout with TCP, I think
23:32:54 <VonSmashington> it literally sends only what i type, basically
23:33:35 <VonSmashington> oh, ok, i see.
23:33:37 <shachaf> I think TCP is a proto cool guy. Eh times out connections and doesn't afraid of anything.
23:33:54 <VonSmashington> . . . that's the bot?
23:34:02 <olsner> hahachaf
23:34:36 <soundnfury>
23:35:59 <VonSmashington> olympics are starting1
23:36:17 <Phantom_Hoover> VonSmashington, they started hours ago man.
23:36:27 <soundnfury> they started /days/ ago
23:36:33 <Phantom_Hoover> Berners-Lee featured, apparently.
23:36:44 <Phantom_Hoover> They started /years/ ago.
23:36:57 <soundnfury> Phantom_Hoover: lol. I meant that the football started on Thursday
23:37:13 <soundnfury> also, they started /in ancient Greece/. Ago.
23:37:26 <olsner> they started /centuries/ ago
23:37:30 <Phantom_Hoover> Football, xkcd... three strikes and you're out.
23:37:33 <Phantom_Hoover> Channel policy.
23:37:35 <VonSmashington> haha, they started like... centuries ago
23:38:07 <olsner> but now I think we've said enough about sports for 4 years
23:38:26 <soundnfury> what's the third strike, mentioning comp.lang.c?
23:38:35 <Phantom_Hoover> No.
23:38:54 <Phantom_Hoover> I can't tell you because giving a list would constitute striking.
23:39:45 <soundnfury> "Anything not on your list." -- Russell
23:39:53 <VonSmashington> wait, so if i say football football football
23:40:11 <VonSmashington> oh, darn, i thought it was automatic
23:40:27 <VonSmashington> that would be excelent.
23:40:50 <soundnfury> not excellent, then?
23:41:03 <Phantom_Hoover> VonSmashington, that's just the same strike 3 times.
23:41:12 <Phantom_Hoover> what are you, some kind of idiot???
23:41:50 <VonSmashington> i am no such thing! fisty cuffs, sir! *rolls up his sleeves*
23:41:56 <Phantom_Hoover> Anyway so long as you don't start spouting right-wing crap or pseudoscience you're safe enough.
23:42:12 <VonSmashington> oh wait, fisticuffs? spelling isn't my forte'
23:42:55 <kallisti> 20 oz red bull
23:42:57 <kallisti> check
23:43:04 <kallisti> 1.75 litres of 100 proof smirnoff triple distilled.
23:43:07 <kallisti> check
23:43:10 <soundnfury> oh, I'm a radical anarcho-libertarian. Is that a strike?
23:43:33 <Phantom_Hoover> depends, how radical
23:43:37 <soundnfury> would mentioning "trade union" be a strike, or just a bad pun?
23:43:37 <Phantom_Hoover> do you do backflips
23:43:38 <kallisti> soundnfury: you went up to bat in your underwear. you were disqualified.
23:43:54 <VonSmashington> HOMEOPATHY
23:44:04 <olsner> soundnfury: you can be whatever you want as long as you don't tell us
23:44:22 <olsner> of course, you can also be many things even if you do tell us
23:44:24 <soundnfury> Phantom_Hoover: no, I don't, because that would be silly
23:44:27 <kallisti> otherwise we'll bring out the #esoteric hate machine
23:44:43 <VonSmashington> is that a thing?
23:44:48 <olsner> it is hate-complete
23:44:53 <Phantom_Hoover> soundnfury, strike strike strike
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23:45:53 <VonSmashington> oh, there you go, it does have a ping timeout
23:46:07 <kallisti> well, it's hate-equivalent.
23:46:09 <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, req. soundnfury be kicked for noobscaring, liking football and xkcd, boring politics
23:46:33 <Phantom_Hoover> I wonder, can the hating problem be solved?
23:47:35 <kallisti> oh god being of legal drinking age is awesome.
23:47:44 <kallisti> I wonder when it will cease being awesome.
23:47:50 <kallisti> probably tomorrow.
23:47:50 <Phantom_Hoover> hahaha legal drinking age here is 18
23:47:55 <kallisti> Phantom_Hoover: yeah yeah
23:48:07 <Phantom_Hoover> also we can consistently have sex at 16.
23:48:10 <kallisti> vietnam war, man.
23:48:11 <kallisti> or something
23:48:15 <kallisti> actually no
23:48:17 <VonSmashington> being of age doesn't matter to me... I distill! woo!
23:48:35 <kallisti> I don't actually remember why our age is 21 here.
23:48:45 <kallisti> but I do know that it got that way for a stupid reason
23:48:52 <kallisti> and then political pressures keep it that way.
23:48:57 <VonSmashington> it is kind of nice, however.
23:48:59 <Phantom_Hoover> I was under the impression that it was hyperbolic drunk driving rhetoric.
23:49:08 <kallisti> Phantom_Hoover: no I think it was in place before that
23:49:09 <Phantom_Hoover> VonSmashington, don't you need a licence to do that.
23:49:16 <VonSmashington> 23 is when you can start drinking biologically with minimal damage
23:49:24 <kallisti> Phantom_Hoover: for example a common complaint during the vietnam war era was that you could be drafting at 18. but couldn't drink until 21.
23:49:34 <kallisti> *drafted
23:49:44 <Phantom_Hoover> Huh.
23:50:02 <kallisti> but yeah the mothers against drunk driving is probably one of the political pressures that keeps it in place today.
23:50:08 <VonSmashington> oh, bummer, have i disconnected?
23:50:09 <kallisti> or whatever they call themselves now.
23:50:15 <kallisti> VonSmashington: no
23:50:28 <VonSmashington> no, wait, the max size of my reading pane has been exceeded.
23:50:31 <VonSmashington> brb.
23:50:33 <kallisti> ..
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23:50:40 <kallisti> lol?
23:51:02 <kallisti> also I'd like to point out that mosh + dedicated server = best IRC experience
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23:51:08 <kallisti> I never have to reconnect to anything ever.
23:51:28 <VonSmashington> hooplah!
23:53:37 <kallisti> VonSmashington: does your client not continue scrolling down when it runs out of buffer?
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