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00:26:57 <zzo38> One command I want to add in FurryScript is something to generate skill ranks for D&D3.5e or Icosahedral RPG, including feature such as cross-class skills, different classes to depend on, maximum settings, and so on, but I am unsure how I should implement it in what I have now.
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00:52:37 <kmc> gotta decide who to vote for
00:52:47 <kmc> democratic party or green rainbow party
00:54:04 <Phantom__Hoover> green rainbow
00:54:11 <Phantom__Hoover> the rainbow made of green
00:54:35 <kmc> yes
00:54:40 <Phantom__Hoover> i guess you idiots actually do that for saint patricks day though
00:54:49 <kmc> yeah
00:55:13 <ion> :-D http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm
00:55:16 <zzo38> Can you vote for just the green party or rainbow party instead of both?
00:55:25 <kmc> nope, it is the same party
00:55:40 <zzo38> That is the problem with political parties.
00:55:53 <shachaf> kmc: which party are you going to crash
00:56:01 <Phantom__Hoover> zzo38 incisively cuts to the heart of american democracy
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01:40:17 <kmc> shachaf: did you see http://ugcs.net/~arapp/timelines/sandy/
01:41:05 <shachaf> Yes, it was in #cslounge-trains.
01:42:33 <kmc> ah
01:42:57 <shachaf> You should join! The train bots are gone.
01:47:25 <kmc> shrug
02:09:40 <kmc> can add cutting-edge design wizardry to your web pages for less than the price of a large pizza without deciphering programmers
02:10:30 <shachaf> Should I "follow" horse_ebooks?
02:17:30 <kmc> yes
02:17:32 <kmc> to the gates of hell
02:18:30 <kmc> i think there is some kind of twitter SEO where you tweet your band's music video at horse ebooks
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03:07:24 <ion> So many “shut up and take my money” projects. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen
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03:31:26 <kmc> cinnabon minibon rolls at burger king!
03:34:44 <coppro> probably not in this country :(
03:34:46 <coppro> otherwise I would go right now
03:38:14 <Sgeo> INTERNET
03:38:29 <pikhq> VIV'
03:38:53 <kmc> INTERNET
03:39:03 <pikhq> INNTA-NE'TO
03:39:09 <kmc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQmK1CnwOUI
03:40:23 <Sgeo> Need to watch RvB season finale
03:45:38 <kmc> the most unrealistic thing about television is that people wear clothes while they sleep
03:46:11 * pikhq does
03:46:26 <zzo38> I wear clothes while sleep, but it is pyjamas rather than normal clothing
03:47:07 <zzo38> (Well, sometimes it is other clothing. And sometimes I have none and wear nothing, but this is rarely)
03:47:42 <coppro> xpost from ##nomic:
03:47:44 <coppro> Would anyone be interested in a a channel to discuss parliamentary sorts of goings-on?
03:47:47 <coppro> parliamentary procedure, interesting things happening in legislatures around the world, etc.
03:49:39 <ion> Nice ad, now with CP.
03:51:03 <zzo38> Can APL programs be compiled to make computer hardware?
04:28:20 <coppro> pikhq: you should join ##parliament
04:31:56 <coppro> comex: :(
04:31:58 <coppro> err
04:32:00 <coppro> copumpkin: :(
04:32:05 <copumpkin> ?
04:32:12 <copumpkin> I'm just not a big parliament guy
04:33:46 <shachaf> copumpkin: Big parliament is a type of big government, right?
04:33:58 <copumpkin> yeah
04:34:05 <copumpkin> but not big enough for me
04:34:08 <copumpkin> I want HUGE government
04:34:33 <coppro> haha
04:34:42 <shachaf> Really? As a 1%er?
04:34:52 <copumpkin> yeah
04:35:05 <shachaf> I read somewhere that the 1% didn't like big government.
04:35:13 <copumpkin> the bigger the government, the more power it has, and I exist to corrupt it
04:35:17 <shachaf> I guess I assumed small rather than huge.
04:35:20 <shachaf> Fair enough.
04:37:38 <shachaf> Do two hafnium atoms make one holmium atom?
04:38:43 <zzo38> A hafnium atom seems to be more than one holmium atom already
04:39:00 <Sgeo> http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12i0t0/accepting_criticism_on_the_internet/
04:39:15 <Sgeo> (Note: Link is not funny. And the person who posted that image is Ryan)
04:39:33 <Sgeo> Well, it's funny that he actually thinks that that makes him look like anything other than an idiot.
04:42:04 <coppro> Sgeo: are you interested in parliaments at all?
04:43:04 <Sgeo> Somewhat
04:43:56 <Sgeo> Elixir doesn't have quote. It has quasiquote which it calls quote
04:44:00 <coppro> Sgeo: join ##parliament
04:44:08 <Sgeo> coppro, can't
04:44:12 <coppro> why not?
04:45:01 <coppro> ah
04:45:25 <kmc> i would feel like a sucker voting third party, even though my vote arguably has more impact that way
04:47:38 <shachaf> Would you feel like a sucker voting not-third party?
04:50:06 <kmc> maybe
05:20:32 <Jafet> Vote Darth Nader
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06:02:36 <Robdgreat> I was planning on writing Cthulhu in
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06:15:19 <quintopia> kmc: more impact? would voting first or second party give it negative impact, because i'm pretty sure voting third party gives it close to zero impact...
06:15:50 <quintopia> yes, it shows in the post-election tally that that platform has more supporters, which sends a signal that will be promptly forgotten
06:15:57 <quintopia> but it doesn't change the government
06:17:55 <zzo38> Didn't Mickey Mouse once win the United States election, but since they are not eligible they had to select the second place?
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06:21:50 <quintopia> zzo38: i've never heard that, though mickey is a frequently used protest vote
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07:11:30 <fizzie> For some reason the traditional protest vote in Finland is Donald Duck, not Mickey Mouse.
07:11:39 <fizzie> Or at least so I believe.
07:12:53 <shachaf> Uh oh.
07:13:01 <shachaf> They'd better pick one.
07:14:52 <fizzie> Here's a paper from one vote-counter tabulating the discarded votes. Donald Duck is a clear winner with 24 votes; all the rest have <= 2. (Well, discounting a crude drawing of a vagina, which is not quite a person.)
07:15:20 <Bike> how many did the crude drawing of a vagina garner?
07:15:27 <fizzie> Seven.
07:15:37 <Bike> Dang.
07:16:06 <fizzie> Batman, The Phantom, Kekkonen and Halonen all got two.
07:16:25 <fizzie> (The numbers are just what this one counter saw, not the totals across the whole election.)
07:16:43 <fizzie> Only one for Mickey Mouse.
07:22:40 <Sgeo> Why am I suddenly missing MSN Explorer?
07:23:02 <shachaf> Did you check /opt?
07:23:03 <Sgeo> ...it still exists. It is still actively developed.
07:26:56 <Sgeo> And is intended to be used with a paid subscription
07:27:01 <Sgeo> That's relatively new, I think
07:27:46 <shachaf> fizzie: Kekkonen and Halonen aren't *quite* in the same category as Donald Duck and Batman, are they?
07:42:56 <olsner> those are actually just the finnish names of donald duck and batman
07:44:14 <shachaf> You can't fool me, olsner!
07:44:30 <shachaf> Take your foolingisms elsewhere.
07:51:02 <olsner> ok
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08:27:45 <fizzie> shachaf: I don't know, Kekkonen kind of has a supereroish (or at least super-somethingish) status around here, I think.
08:27:52 <fizzie> Halonen maybe not so.
08:29:42 <shachaf> I thought Halonen was seen as more of a supervillain.
08:29:46 <shachaf> Maybe that's just in Estonia.
08:30:21 <fizzie> Possibly so; I don't think there are any terribly high emotions regarding her in Finland.
08:30:23 <shachaf> ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2adV6PkgFNA )
08:31:03 <fizzie> I'm a bit miffed that they no longer give candy or something after medical exams; I think they used to do that when one was younger. Five tubes of blood, and nothing to show for it. Well, except the blood, of course.
08:31:28 <shachaf> Blood is pretty similar to candy.
08:33:00 <fizzie> Also it's my standad breakfalunch time, but I have to wait here for that one quick-check sample results. (The cafeterias open at 10:30am, and there's no queues; at 11am it's all full already.)
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08:46:17 <olsner> fizzie: if you donate blood you get a sandwich
08:47:18 <shachaf> A blood sandwich?
08:47:39 <olsner> yes, a sandwich
08:49:29 <Sgeo> Is .m Objective-C?
09:07:25 <fizzie> It's objc, but also MATLAB.
09:08:58 <fizzie> olsner: I think the sample tubes has less volume than what they take when donating, which might explain the lack of rewards.
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15:14:39 <kmc> quintopia: there's no chance my state will cast the decisive electoral vote
15:15:53 <kmc> which is all that matters as far as who actually becomes president
15:17:18 <kmc> so it's a matter of contributing to the popular vote tally for a main-party vs. third-party candidate
15:17:26 <kmc> both of which are about "sending signals" only
15:18:11 <kmc> of course it's also true that one vote is a tiny signal but that's true no matter where you live
15:18:19 <kmc> if i lived in florida or ohio i would not be considering voting third-party
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16:08:19 <elliott> If you need to count the main features of free arcade games online, allow me to share few mentioned. One cannot think the tremendous development of internet and exactly how it's accountable for making things accessible and work simpler and much easier. When internet and entertainment can be manufactured, it's now cheaper. The days of children flocking the amusement centers for playing games have remaining.
16:09:16 <atriq> Hmm
16:09:27 <atriq> Possibly a MarioLang like language with networking
16:09:40 <atriq> Which reminds me
16:09:48 <atriq> I need to update Phantom_Hoover's Tumblr
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16:22:15 <atriq> Augh, why do I read this webcomic
16:39:29 <elliott> hi
16:41:31 <nooodl_> elliott: hi
16:42:15 <atriq> Is nooodl_ new?
16:42:22 <nooodl_> yeah kinda
16:42:28 <atriq> :)
16:42:35 <atriq> I'm atriq, Taneb, and Ngevd
16:42:40 <nooodl_> i know elliott, monqy, and zzo38, though. also, i recognize some folks from #haskell
16:42:57 <atriq> I pretty much live here, although I'm sometimes in #haskell
16:43:02 <atriq> Like now
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16:44:42 <elliott> `addquote <zzo38> Can you vote for just the green party or rainbow party instead of both? <kmc> nope, it is the same party <zzo38> That is the problem with political parties.
16:44:53 <HackEgo> 864) <zzo38> Can you vote for just the green party or rainbow party instead of both? <kmc> nope, it is the same party <zzo38> That is the problem with political parties.
16:46:41 <elliott> 02:18:30: <kmc> i think there is some kind of twitter SEO where you tweet your band's music video at horse ebooks
16:46:46 <elliott> kmc: capturing the elusive horse_ebooks demographic
16:48:40 <nooodl_> that's a good zzo38 quote
16:48:47 <nooodl_> is the context as good
16:49:33 <elliott> that is the context
16:51:12 <elliott> well modulo
16:51:13 <elliott> 00:52:37: <kmc> gotta decide who to vote for
16:51:13 <elliott> 00:52:47: <kmc> democratic party or green rainbow party
16:51:30 <nooodl_> mmmhmm
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17:01:45 * pikhq approves of rainbows
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17:47:56 <Deewiant> Who here is currently attending a university, excluding myself and fızzie
17:48:13 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover I think???
17:48:25 <Phantom_Hoover> yes
17:48:27 <Phantom_Hoover> also coppro
17:48:32 <elliott> Also Deewiant.
17:48:36 <Phantom_Hoover> probably most of the rest
17:48:40 <Deewiant> elliott: I excluded myself
17:49:04 <Arc_Koen> atriq is isn't he
17:49:04 <elliott> Deewiant: but that's unfair
17:49:05 <Deewiant> Does any such person have free access to the following article: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0196677482900165
17:49:14 <elliott> I am like 80% sure atriq is not in university
17:49:25 <Deewiant> Via the university (or its library, typically)
17:49:26 <Phantom_Hoover> Arc_Koen, no, he's too immature
17:49:32 <Arc_Koen> what
17:49:39 <elliott> Deewiant: that is the scienciest title
17:49:44 <Phantom_Hoover> (they go to university a year later in england afaiu)
17:50:02 <Arc_Koen> as far as you u?
17:50:11 <Arc_Koen> understand
17:50:27 <Phantom_Hoover> Deewiant, well there's a big banner in the corner saying 'thelibrary' and 'Warwick' so i'm guessing yes
17:50:30 <Deewiant> My university has access to Journal of Algorithms but only 1995 vol 18 – 2009 vol 64... so that 1982 vol 3 is somewhat out
17:50:49 <Phantom_Hoover> so what, do you want me to email it or something
17:50:59 <Deewiant> That would work, yes
17:51:16 <Deewiant> Or put it on the pirate bay for all I care, whatever
17:51:42 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: IMO link it in here and mention your real name
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17:52:21 <Deewiant> Too late
17:52:28 <Deewiant> The CIA got to him
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17:54:22 <Phantom_Hoover> Deewiant, where email
17:54:40 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: I want it too!
17:54:49 <elliott> my email is copyright@fbi.gov.uk.info
17:54:53 <elliott> .museum
17:55:04 <Phantom_Hoover> i see you got that professional-sounding email address you wanted
17:55:09 <elliott> .aero
17:55:26 <Deewiant> Phantom_Hoover: Your complimentary one-time e-mail address is: ph@deewiant.iki.fi
17:55:42 <elliott> Deewiant: You forgot .fbi.gov
17:55:50 <Deewiant> And .museum and .aero?
17:55:56 <elliott> Deewiant: Yes
17:55:58 <elliott> easy mistake to make
17:57:32 <Arc_Koen> fbi.gov.uk
17:57:39 <Arc_Koen> interessting
17:57:40 <Deewiant> What about .xxx
17:57:42 <elliott> Arc_Koen: it's the UK branch of the fbi
17:58:05 <elliott> Deewiant: that's only for xtremely xcellent xtraneous email
17:58:06 <Arc_Koen> do you mean the uk are federated to the us?
17:58:29 <Deewiant> elliott: Wouldn't .post make the most sense for e-mail
17:58:35 <elliott> Arc_Koen: what does the fucking bureau of investigation have to do with federation
17:59:11 <elliott> Deewiant: wow, a gtld so stupid not even I knew it existed
18:00:00 <Phantom_Hoover> Deewiant, have you received my hot warez
18:00:35 <Deewiant> Phantom_Hoover: Seems legit, indeed
18:00:42 <Deewiant> Thanks
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18:01:17 <Deewiant> Your complimentary one-time e-mail address is now no longer in service
18:01:32 <Phantom_Hoover> what if i want to email you
18:01:36 <elliott> Deewiant: but I just signed it up for spam!!
18:03:00 <Deewiant> A non-one-time e-mail address of mine can be found on my web site at iki.fi/deewiant
18:03:21 <Deewiant> I would prefer it if you did not sign that one up for spam
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18:04:57 <elliott> Deewiant: Can I have an elliott@deewiant.iki.fi? just in case I ever need to email you for anything
18:05:25 <elliott> Deewiant: ncie new glob release
18:05:28 <Deewiant> You've already emailed me
18:05:30 <elliott> did you fix all the things I was going to
18:05:30 <elliott> *nice
18:05:35 <elliott> have I
18:05:36 <elliott> ok
18:05:37 <Deewiant> No, I just updated the dependencies
18:06:07 <Deewiant> Because PVP and Cabal and upper bounds and therefore Hackage is terrible etc
18:06:10 <elliott> apparently I have already sent Deewiant spam
18:06:19 <elliott> this puzzles me
18:22:10 <Arc_Koen> please allow me to take one second of your time to exercise my self-centredness
18:22:20 <Arc_Koen> I HAVE A DRIVING LICENSE
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18:23:55 <elliott> hi
18:24:50 <Arc_Koen> anyway, in how many hours will you have the results of your election?
18:26:56 <elliott> who is your
18:26:56 <kmc> we already have the results because the Prophet Nate Silver has spoken
18:27:15 <copumpkin> sweet!
18:27:18 <kmc> the result is that 90.9% of Obama and 9.1% of Romney will jointly become president
18:27:36 <kmc> obama with romney hair, most likely
18:27:36 <elliott> that sounds more entertaining than an obama presidency tbh
18:27:37 <copumpkin> will they combine names like Goku and Vegeta?
18:28:57 <Phantom_Hoover> yes
18:29:12 <Phantom_Hoover> they will become robama
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18:39:13 <coppro> For anyone interested in parliamentary things, ##parliament
18:39:19 <coppro> (procedure, events in legislatures, etc.)
18:39:32 <coppro> we need another small, barely populated channel
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18:45:50 <Lumpio-> Which parliament would that be
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20:03:39 <kmc> apparently the MySQL datetime column type has only second resolution
20:03:43 <kmc> truly the PHP of databases
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20:05:10 <Vorpal> kmc, ouch
20:06:14 <FreeFull> kmc: I think MySQL often gets used in combo with PHP
20:07:01 <kmc> you are a master of stating obvious but irrelevant facts
20:08:20 <elliott> that's Vorpal, kmc
20:08:50 <olsner> there can be more than one master of stating the obvious
20:09:24 <olsner> I wonder if there's a lolmysql reddit too
20:10:04 <atriq> olsner, not by that name
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20:15:16 <atriq> Argo looks like it's gonna be a decent movie
20:15:57 <nortti> yeah, it was pretty nice
20:16:19 <FreeFull> kmc: You are a master of stating that I am a master of stating the obvious
20:16:24 <atriq> One of my friends wasn't paying attention to the trailer and thought it was going to be an amazing sci-fi movie
20:17:03 <nortti> :D
20:18:15 <atriq> The Bride of Frankenstein was a hilarious movie
20:24:19 <atriq> Aaargh Youtube is hating me
20:25:46 <Vorpal> atriq, in what way?
20:26:06 <atriq> A lot of videos (almost, but not, all) won't load
20:26:09 <atriq> Like, just a black box
20:26:10 <Vorpal> ah
20:26:15 <atriq> This is in Chromium
20:26:19 <atriq> It seems to work fine in Firefox
20:26:35 <Vorpal> so not the old classic: "pretend you aren't subscribed" which seems to happen about every other month
20:26:38 <Vorpal> for about a week
20:27:01 <atriq> I'm not signed in on Firefox
20:27:02 <atriq> Hmm
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20:35:12 <FireFly> atriq: is flash disabled and have you joined the HTML5 trial or whatever it's called?
20:35:39 <kmc> atriq: yeah, HTML5 trial stopped working for me recently
20:35:44 <FireFly> In that case it'd bail out on videos with ads in them, IIRC
20:35:51 <atriq> I'll try disabling the HTML5 Trial
20:35:56 <kmc> when i opted back out those videos worked in frash prugin
20:36:14 <FireFly> The HTML5 player works for me
20:36:23 <atriq> Yeah, kmc, that worked
20:36:24 <atriq> Huh
20:36:35 <olsner> if it's opt-in, do you opt out when you stop opting in? or do you just unopt in?
20:39:02 <kmc> you ni tpo
20:39:22 <olsner> !rot13 opt in
20:39:24 <EgoBot> bcg va
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20:50:14 <OTNexus> anyone here?
20:50:19 <kmc> yes
20:50:54 <fizzie> Manyone here.
20:51:22 <OTNexus> im just wondering if anyone has any time to check out my new forum software/site, ( just launched 2 days ago :P)
20:52:57 <soundnfury> `Welcome
20:53:00 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: Welcome: not found
20:53:12 <soundnfury> damn. How does this bot work again, guys?
20:54:22 <atriq> `welcome
20:54:23 <olsner> `? how bot works plox?
20:54:25 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
20:54:47 <HackEgo> how bot works plox?? ¯\(°_o)/¯
20:54:50 <soundnfury> ah, so it was just a case issue
20:55:53 <olsner> welcome should be just about case insensitive nowadays
20:56:02 <olsner> `WeLcOmE
20:56:06 <HackEgo> WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.)
20:56:26 <Arc_Koen> `WELCOME
20:56:36 <Arc_Koen> so, has Obama been reelected yet?
20:57:11 <olsner> the wiki is not up to date with the url spelling shenanigans though, so the link only works from `welcome
20:57:48 <soundnfury> olsner: yes, I thought it was, which was why I expected `Welcome to work too
20:58:17 <olsner> well, the message has to match the case of the command, so it becomes a wee bit tricky
20:58:46 <fizzie> I'm thinking the 128 case variants should be symlinks to a single welcomation script.
20:59:34 <soundnfury> fizzie: yeah, but then you have to grovel argv[0], and that's just crufty
20:59:55 <olsner> it might be less work than filling in the remaining 4 case variants manually
21:00:20 <fizzie> There are already 124 of them done, then?
21:00:31 <fizzie> News to me.
21:00:32 <olsner> approximately
21:00:53 <fizzie> There's that WELCOME though.
21:01:26 <soundnfury> gah, wide characters. I /still/ haven't taught quIRC about those
21:01:38 <olsner> right, so it should take the command text and figure out a similar mapping for all alphabetic characters
21:01:59 <soundnfury> (I mean, obviously it knows about UTF-8, but I'm talking about the ones that take two columns of terminal)
21:03:08 <fizzie> "w31c0m3" is missing too.
21:07:18 <FireFly> How do you add commands?
21:07:54 <FireFly> "`Welcome" ought to print out the message in titular case
21:07:54 <atriq> FireFly, it's just a Linux system
21:08:01 <atriq> `ls /bin
21:08:04 <HackEgo> bash \ bunzip2 \ bzcat \ bzcmp \ bzdiff \ bzegrep \ bzexe \ bzfgrep \ bzgrep \ bzip2 \ bzip2recover \ bzless \ bzmore \ cat \ chgrp \ chmod \ chown \ cp \ cpio \ dash \ date \ dd \ df \ dir \ dmesg \ dnsdomainname \ domainname \ echo \ ed \ egrep \ false \ fgrep \ grep \ gunzip \ gzexe \ gzip \ hostname \ ip \ kill \ less \ lessecho \ lessfile \ lesskey \ lesspipe \ ln \ login \ ls \ lsmod \ mkdir \ mknod \ mktemp
21:08:19 <atriq> `cat /bin/welcome
21:08:22 <HackEgo> cat: /bin/welcome: No such file or directory
21:08:26 <atriq> `ls
21:08:29 <HackEgo> bin \ canary \ foo \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs
21:08:29 <FireFly> I knew that, but that still doesn't tell me how to add additional commands
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21:08:39 <atriq> I have no idea, beyond that
21:08:58 <FireFly> `echo "echo hello" >bin/firefly-test # I doubt this'll work
21:09:01 <HackEgo> ​"echo hello" >bin/firefly-test # I doubt this'll work
21:09:14 <Bike> run ed, obviously
21:09:38 <FireFly> Gregor: halp
21:09:44 <FireFly> `halp
21:09:45 <olsner> `cat bin/hi
21:09:47 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: halp: not found
21:10:08 <HackEgo> cat: bin/hi: No such file or directory
21:10:12 <olsner> `run echo "echo hi" >bin/hi
21:10:14 <olsner> `hi
21:10:16 <HackEgo> No output.
21:10:28 <olsner> `cat bin/hi
21:10:32 <HackEgo> echo hi
21:10:35 <FireFly> A slight improvement; now I know about `run
21:10:36 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hi: not found
21:11:31 <olsner> `run chmod +x bin/hi
21:11:33 <olsner> `hi
21:11:33 <HackEgo> No output.
21:11:36 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/hi: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/hi: cannot execute: Permission denied
21:11:51 <olsner> meh, I'm missing something
21:12:17 <olsner> fungot: replace our spam with other spam please
21:12:17 <fizzie> No, you're not.
21:12:17 <fungot> olsner: it'd stop at 231 or thereabouts?
21:12:19 <fizzie> `hi
21:12:22 <HackEgo> hi
21:12:44 <fizzie> Except some serialization of requests, arguably.
21:13:04 <olsner> hmm, it doesn't serialize requests?
21:13:25 <olsner> probably a good thing, although somewhat surprising
21:13:26 <fizzie> Not that I know of. They all happen in separate checkouts, too.
21:18:58 <fizzie> fungot: You at least are fully single-tasking, right?
21:18:59 <fungot> fizzie: i think catfive said an important thing i noticed
21:19:25 <olsner> fungot: ya think?
21:19:26 <fungot> olsner: is smerdyakov unbanned? i just hacked in :p /sarcasm on irc when they leave/ sleep/ work rather than shut down their clients' local variables nor the clients to interfere with the rest
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21:31:14 <Phantom__Hoover> hey elliott remember david braben
21:36:58 <soundnfury> `which welcome
21:37:01 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/welcome
21:43:26 <kmc> "Relive the biggest moments in the 2012 campaign in just two minutes."
21:43:34 <kmc> CNN's attitude towards this election is like it's a reality TV show that's ending
21:43:38 <kmc> seems pretty fitting
21:44:25 <kmc> "More people on Facebook are talking about Obama today than Romney."
21:44:47 <kmc> "You want close? We've got close!"
21:44:48 <Bike> if only we had some more scientific means to figure out their relative popularity
21:44:54 <kmc> these are all actual cnn.com headlines atm
21:47:59 <Phantom__Hoover> hey kmc who's winning
21:53:52 <Arc_Koen> hmm
21:54:32 <Arc_Koen> a brainfuck-derivative where +-.,[] are identical to brainfuck but > and < mean "move the pointer by n cells, where n is the value of the current cell"
21:54:39 <Arc_Koen> would that be turing-complete?
21:54:55 <kmc> my guess is 'yes'
21:55:15 <Phantom__Hoover> my guess is "oh come on you just made that so it's a bitch to prove tc"
21:55:23 <kmc> doesn't sound that hard
21:56:36 <Arc_Koen> well problem is you can't really move to another given cell without destroying the information in the present cell
21:57:00 <Phantom__Hoover> you can if you account for the value of the current cell adequately
21:57:14 <Phantom__Hoover> which is finicky and annoying
21:57:35 <Arc_Koen> besides, you'd at least need the values in cells to be unbounded
21:57:45 <Arc_Koen> wait, never mind
21:58:10 <Arc_Koen> ok, assuming the values are bounded - maybe even single bits
21:59:43 <kmc> you can do that, and you can also interleave the "real" tape with cells you just use for jumping
21:59:49 <kmc> though... you have to get to those cells somehow
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22:05:00 <ais523> someone here who isn't in the UK (preferably not in Europe), could you do a traceroute to cs.bham.ac.uk and tell me if what you see is as insane as what I see?
22:06:10 <Bike> it's going through japan?
22:06:23 <ais523> for me, the message goes between and alternately until it runs out of ttl
22:06:42 <Bike> oh yeah, same here.
22:06:52 <Bike> (US)
22:07:03 <fizzie> ais523: From the US, http://sprunge.us/JccJ
22:08:37 <fizzie> Very similar from home (Finland).
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22:10:35 <ais523> fizzie: thanks
22:10:41 <Vorpal> ais523, did a tracepath from Sweden.... For some reason it goes through japan, then ends up bouncing at the end indeed
22:10:43 <fizzie> ais523: Funnily (perhaps unsurprisingly) the back-path is straight, as illustrated by tracepath at http://sprunge.us/bdPI
22:10:56 <ais523> context is that I'm trying and failing to remote in to servers there so I can do my job
22:10:59 <Vorpal> fizzie, backpath from where?
22:11:19 <Vorpal> ais523, well you are fucked on that point I'm afraid
22:11:20 <fizzie> Vorpal: From the two bouncy guys.
22:11:28 <Vorpal> ah
22:11:42 <Vorpal> fizzie, it doesn't go through japan for you?
22:11:50 <Vorpal> oh wait, it does
22:12:00 <Taneb> This monitor is huuuuuuuuuuuge
22:12:07 <kmc> how huge
22:12:09 <Vorpal> hm
22:12:14 <Taneb> 20 inches
22:12:19 <Vorpal> that isn't huge
22:12:19 <kmc> lol Taneb
22:12:27 <kmc> i have two 24" and a 30" in front of me right now
22:12:32 <Vorpal> Taneb, I have a 24" in front of me
22:12:34 <Taneb> I'm getting there
22:12:45 <fizzie> Vorpal: I see no japan there.
22:12:48 <Taneb> A couple of months ago my monitor was huge going backwards
22:12:51 <Vorpal> hm right
22:12:58 <Vorpal> fizzie, mine does go through japan though
22:13:01 <Vorpal> which is weird
22:13:25 <Vorpal> to US, then japan, then back to canada, then to UK from what I can tell?
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22:13:34 <Vorpal> which is an insane path
22:13:37 <Vorpal> anyway, need to sleep
22:13:55 <fizzie> Home goes via my ISP, then Helsinki-London over eunetip, then different UK places via ja.net.
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22:14:46 <Vorpal> fizzie, btw, how did you find the back path
22:14:49 <Vorpal> which command
22:14:49 <fizzie> VPS takes HE to London and the UK side is pretty similar.
22:15:15 <fizzie> Vorpal: tracepath, as mentioned; it reports those "asymm N" for the number of backhops.
22:15:32 <Vorpal> oh trace*path*
22:15:47 <Vorpal> so how is the asymm value decoded?
22:16:59 <fizzie> Directly the length of the route back, I believe; contrasting the hop-number at start of the line.
22:17:10 <Taneb> It's so big, I don't need to scroll left or right in Dwarf Fortress...
22:17:18 <Vorpal> ah
22:17:31 <Vorpal> Taneb, then you are playing on a too small map
22:17:41 <Vorpal> what was your embark size?
22:17:48 <Taneb> Default, I think
22:17:53 <Vorpal> which is?
22:17:54 <Taneb> I have no idea, I made that one ages ago
22:17:57 <Taneb> 4x4
22:18:01 <Vorpal> I don't remember the last time I played on less than 6x6
22:21:27 <Taneb> :)
22:21:39 <Taneb> I'm not ready for that kind of size
22:22:18 <Taneb> I feel like that time one of my friends switched from Safari for Windows to Internet Explorer and was outstanded by the speed increase
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22:29:24 <Phantom_Hoover> vorpal has quit in disgust
22:29:44 <Taneb> This friend is too nervous to use Chrome
22:29:53 <Taneb> In case his mind explodes at the speed
22:31:29 <Phantom_Hoover> consider finding some better friends
22:32:06 <Taneb> He's an okay guy, just had a poor computer setup
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