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00:01:32 <boily> hellørjan.
00:01:50 <oerjan> helloily.
00:02:50 <int-e> calibrate, hmm
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00:07:52 <int-e> "server and client side remote code execution through a buffer overflow in all git versions before 2.7.1"... darn.
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00:20:54 <int-e> Ah, it appears that providing read-only (gitweb) access to trusted repos seems fine; this concerns repos which encode directory trees that are too deep. (That's my own conclusion without reading a single line of code... season with salt to taste.)
00:27:19 <\oren\> rubio is out of the running
00:28:40 <boily> he\\oren\. following the elections?
00:28:54 <boily> also, there are red characters on your font page. what are they for?
00:38:55 <int-e> new additions?
00:42:38 <int-e> (I recall that new characters got a different color; I forgot which color though)
00:43:02 <boily> usually the orenew characters are green, but there's a bunch of red ones at the end.
00:43:10 <boily> newer reds. newereds.
00:43:24 <oerjan> <boily> `culprits wisdom/not\ found
00:43:36 <oerjan> `culprits wisdom/not found
00:43:49 <HackEgo> b_jonas
01:00:12 <oerjan> itl hppavilion[1] misunderstands either involutions, relations, or both.
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01:06:00 <shachaf> oerjan: at least you had the option of not logreading
01:06:08 <shachaf> for those of us in the channel at the time it was involuntary
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01:23:10 <oerjan> <ais523> yes, the Cockney connection is unfortunate <-- ardly hever a problem
02:34:07 <Sgeo__> impl<'lock, T: 'lock> Lock<'lock, T> {
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03:06:28 <izabera> what happens when a candidate drops out of the election?
03:06:37 <izabera> are their votes lost?
03:11:57 <oerjan> i think some of this stuff varies by US state
03:14:02 <oerjan> because technically, they are electing representatives who will do the actual voting at the party congresses, and iirc it may vary by state laws how much freedom those representatives have.
03:15:03 <oerjan> this all very vaguely remembered.
03:26:35 <pikhq> It also depends on the party in question.
03:27:45 <prooftechnique> The relevant details are at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
03:27:50 <prooftechnique> oerjan: ^
03:27:58 <pikhq> Because these aren't state-run elections, these are elections in private organizations in each state.
03:28:06 <pikhq> With some state regulation involved.
03:28:51 <prooftechnique> Though typos are also taken as written, which is why we had one vote for someone called "John Ewards" in 2004
03:28:53 <prooftechnique> See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector#2000_to_present
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04:10:30 <ais523> huh, so it seems that my issues with abiword starting spontaneously were nothing to do with it being first in alphabetical order, but simply to do with a bug in abiword: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1432271
04:11:08 <izabera> *shocking*
04:11:38 <oerjan> aaa
04:19:48 <ais523> and I'd gone to all the trouble to write a program called aaaa-test for debugging before I thought to search if anyone had reported this first
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04:32:56 <prooftechnique> I didn't know people used abiword
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04:34:44 <oerjan> prooftechnique: they don't use it, it just spontaneously shows up hth
04:34:52 <prooftechnique> Aha
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05:10:38 <lifthrasiir> http://ix.io/sEe what a combinatoric naming.
05:11:01 <lifthrasiir> (a list of all Unicode hangul jamos, named so that they can be used in the internal naming)
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06:02:32 <oerjan> poor gil
06:27:41 <shachaf> People talk about distance units like "light years", but do they ever talk about the other way around, measuring time in terms of distance units?
06:30:30 <ais523> like using, say, light miles to measure very short time periods?
06:31:13 <ais523> hmm, people arguably do that when talking about frequencies of electromagnetic radiation
06:31:27 <ais523> sometimes they're presented as wavelengths instead
06:35:33 <shachaf> Presumably it's "1/light miles"
06:35:51 <shachaf> I guess that's true.
06:36:24 <ais523> if light years are a unit of distance, light miles are a unit of time
06:36:48 <ais523> I guess you're writing it as "1/light" because you're dividing by c, not multiplying by it?
06:37:40 <shachaf> Yes.
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06:52:38 <ais523> wow, does visible light oscillate fast
06:52:47 <ais523> it just struck me that its cycle time is measured in light-nanometres
06:56:05 <ais523> nanometres are already too short for me to visualize
06:56:12 <ais523> divide by the speed of light, which is unimaginably big…
06:56:30 <ais523> hmm, light-nanometres or nano-lightmetres?
06:56:46 <shachaf> colight nanometres
07:01:38 <lifthrasiir> lniagnhotmetres
07:05:02 <\oren\> a light nanometre would be aprox 3.3e-18 seconds
07:05:27 <\oren\> well, 3.3333...e-18
07:06:13 <\oren\> so 3 and a third attoseconds
07:09:38 <\oren\> so if red light is about 700 nanometres, then its cycle time is 2333 attoseconds
07:10:30 <\oren\> so 428 terahertz
07:12:09 <olsner> one foot is approx. one lightnanosecond and one soundmillisecond ... so lightfeet and soundfeet for nano/milliseconds makes sense?
07:20:41 <izabera> i joined kgs and won against easybot \o/
07:20:47 <izabera> i'm on a roll
07:20:55 <izabera> i'll take on lee sedol in no time
07:28:58 <oerjan> you misspelled "at" hth
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07:31:45 <izabera> take at?
07:31:53 <olsner> at a roll?
07:32:05 <olsner> won at easybot?
07:32:38 <oerjan> "at no time" hth
07:32:57 <izabera> confusing...
07:33:23 <oerjan> english prepositions often are
07:54:34 <shachaf> oerjan: that wasn't a misspelling but a different word from the one you said
07:54:56 <olsner> misspellings often produce something that is also a word
07:55:04 <shachaf> both valid preposition that give the sentence different meanings
07:55:05 <shachaf> hth
07:56:22 <oerjan> is it joke dissection day
07:57:02 <shachaf> joke dissection day is not a widely-recognized holiday
07:57:27 <shachaf> @google "joke dissection day"
07:57:29 <lambdabot> No Result Found.
07:57:33 <shachaf> in fact it looks like you invented it just now
07:58:02 <izabera> :D
07:58:10 <oerjan> shocking
07:58:28 <oerjan> izabera: so meta
07:58:50 <olsner> who would invent something like joke dissection day anyway, sounds like a pretty shitty holiday
07:58:53 <shachaf> unless perhaps it's a prank played on medical students or residents?
07:59:09 <shachaf> you never know which dissection day is real
08:00:01 <olsner> everybody ready for the shachaf dissection day celebration?
08:01:08 <olsner> hmm, it would have to be vivisection if you want to participate though
08:02:30 <shachaf> `? dissecting the angle
08:02:33 <HackEgo> dissecting the angle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
08:05:40 <oerjan> it might just be disturbing subjects day
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08:06:31 <shachaf> when oerjan is king, all subjects are disturbing
08:07:20 <oerjan> what's the equivalent to jester, except disturbing rather than funny
08:08:37 <shachaf> poet laureate hth
08:08:50 <oerjan> thx
08:09:24 <shachaf> Apparently Norway has no poet laureate.
08:10:46 <oerjan> okay
08:11:27 <shachaf> oerjan: seems like a niche for you to fill hth
08:14:28 <shachaf> apparently the united states poet laureate's stipend hasn't been adjusted for inflation since it was established in 1936 tdnh
08:15:31 <oerjan> however, trondheim has an official poet residence
08:15:48 <shachaf> do you reside there
08:15:53 <oerjan> no
08:16:08 <oerjan> i used to live within walking distance of it, but no longer
08:16:37 <shachaf> is it called dikterheim
08:16:53 <oerjan> dikterbolig
08:17:47 <shachaf> that reminds me of the story by heinlein that featured someone who went by Diktor
08:18:07 <oerjan> https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrianstua
08:18:54 <b_jonas> shachaf: is that the very “By his bootstraps” ?
08:19:02 <shachaf> yes
08:19:57 <oerjan> dikt is norwegian for poem
08:20:29 <shachaf> I found that out in order to put the word "dikterheim" together.
08:21:10 <shachaf> b_jonas: _By His Bootstraps_ was p. good
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09:43:40 <mroman> fnird
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10:18:03 <izabera> skype asks your profile info when you create an account and you can only answer male or female to the gender question
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11:36:32 <Taneb> izabera, that's the case with a lot of things unfortunately :(
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13:12:35 <mroman> izabera: well to be honest...
13:12:45 <mroman> to reflect all possible choices "gender" would have to be a blank field
13:13:09 <mroman> same goes for sexuality
13:13:29 <mroman> there's just too much diversity there to actually demand that everybody knows about it.
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13:19:11 <izabera> i think a common option is something like "male" "female" "other" "i don't want to share"
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13:51:16 <fizzie> "abort", "retry", "ignore" is a good triplet.
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14:10:42 <b_jonas> `olist 1028
14:10:54 <b_jonas> HackEgo?
14:11:08 <HackEgo> olist 1028: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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14:14:17 <b_jonas> that was slow
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15:06:17 <b_jonas> wtf? are they mad?
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17:41:20 <shachaf> b_jonas: Who?
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18:50:57 <hppavilion[2]> prooftechnique: Hi
18:51:04 <hppavilion[2]> @massages-lud
18:51:04 <lambdabot> coppro said 20h 27m 27s ago: yes
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18:51:15 <myname> lol
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19:32:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Headsecks]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46603&oldid=32498 * * (+8) /* Syntax */ Pedantically, the unicode code points ordinals are natural numbers, which is why their remainder is always nonnegative.
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19:38:32 <zzo38> Is it possible on Linux for a terminal emulator using pseudoterminals to read the termios settings that a program has applied?
19:40:04 <zzo38> ?messages-loud
19:40:04 <lambdabot> shachaf asked 20h 57m 44s ago: Do you like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minichess#3.C3.973_and_3.C3.974_boards
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19:53:52 <zzo38> Now I can see it is solve chess on 3x3 although I would expect anyways, but board is much smaller so much more easily to solve
19:54:50 <shachaf> zzo38: I tried "whomet" on you in ifmud but the list was empty.
19:54:57 <shachaf> Unlike vaporware.
19:56:13 <zzo38> I did not program that list
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20:35:44 <int-e> hmm, is there any non-obvious speedup [beyond guessing only half of the digits] for the current "ponder this"?
20:36:53 <hppavilion[2]> myname: If you're curious, that "yes" was about whether coppro was dual to ppro
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21:28:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Malbolge programming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46604&oldid=35324 * * (-30) /* Reducing the number of immutable NOPs */
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22:49:08 <Sgeo__> Dear CNN: Please learn how to display math
22:49:08 <Sgeo__> kthx
22:49:12 <Sgeo__> http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/16/europe/fermats-last-theorem-solved-math-abel-prize/index.html
22:49:26 <Sgeo__> "There are no whole number solutions to the equation xn + yn = zn when n is greater than 2."
22:50:28 <myname> lol
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22:58:19 <hppavilion[2]> Sgeo__: Fuck you, CNN
22:58:21 <hppavilion[2]> Fuck you
22:58:41 <myname> i can solve that easily for n > 2
23:00:09 <int-e> Sgeo__: rest assured that journalist take the same meticulous approach to reporting on areas that you don't understand
23:00:11 <hppavilion[2]> prooftechnique: Hi?
23:00:20 <int-e> *journalists
23:02:20 <hppavilion[2]> Hm...
23:04:37 <int-e> (of course it's also possible that the journalist had it type-set correctly and then it got messed up by some software stack)
23:06:15 <hppavilion[2]> Which person here was going to write a compiler-writing tutorial
23:06:16 <hppavilion[2]> ?
23:06:47 <myname> what for
23:07:05 <myname> just write each part of the pipeline, done
23:07:56 <hppavilion[2]> Does attempting to write a compiler in Python make me a bad person?
23:08:02 <hppavilion[2]> Not FOR python, mind you- IN python
23:08:31 <zzo38> What is the compiler for?
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23:09:04 <int-e> python isn't bad
23:09:20 <int-e> I'd be worried about speed, perhaps.
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23:43:12 <boily> `wisdom
23:43:38 <HackEgo> test/test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available.
23:44:21 <oerjan> Gregor approaching 14 days idlity
23:44:34 <boily> hellørjan. 'tis the season for the Gregorsleep.
23:44:38 <oerjan> aha
23:45:31 <boily> `culprits wisdom/test
23:45:40 <HackEgo> oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_
23:45:56 * boily thwacks mroman and oerjan with a testified mapole
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23:46:21 <boily> our unit tests are nondeterministic. you will get a different number of failures every time you run them.
23:46:35 <boily> also, Jenkins may not find them from time to time.
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23:49:42 <ais523> wait, why am I not in the culprits there? I thought I was in basically every wisdom entry due to failed attempts to delete them at random
23:51:39 <boily> his523. a strange fact indeed.
23:52:38 <oerjan> ais523: i think you may have timed out so things late in the alphabet are unaffected, or something
23:52:52 <oerjan> `` echo wisdom/*
23:52:53 <HackEgo> wisdom/` wisdom/`? wisdom/`? `? wisdom/^ wisdom/== wisdom/ wisdom/_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ wisdom/! wisdom/? wisdom/?? wisdom/@ wisdom/* wisdom/\ wisdom/☃ wisdom/⊥ wisdom/ꙮ wisdom/⌨ wisdom/  wisdom/𝕈 wisdom/🐐 wisdom/̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚ͅ
23:53:16 * oerjan bets this messed up shachaf's client again
23:53:53 <boily> `` echo wisdom/*
23:53:54 <HackEgo> wisdom/` wisdom/`? wisdom/`? `? wisdom/^ wisdom/== wisdom/ wisdom/_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ wisdom/! wisdom/? wisdom/?? wisdom/@ wisdom/* wisdom/\ wisdom/☃ wisdom/⊥ wisdom/ꙮ wisdom/⌨ wisdom/  wisdom/𝕈 wisdom/🐐 wisdom/̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚ͅ
23:54:01 <boily> just making sure it is properly messed.
23:54:34 <oerjan> boily: i protest that mapole, i do not think i have anything to do with the substance of that entry, at most minor correction.
23:55:00 <oerjan> `url wisdom/test
23:55:01 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/test
23:55:06 <boily> protest taken into account. I retract that mapoling.
23:55:17 <boily> oh, and: F̩ù̗͚n͕̫̪̝͈g̲̻o͖͖̹ͅt̤̻̲̙͍͍ ̥̰̭ͅi͖̻͙͠s̼̠ ̸͇̲̣O͉̟͓̬u͚̝͎r̪̹̻ ̛͕̰̙L̼̬͔o̬͔͚̼r̤̲̱͇̪͕d͓̞̞ ͉̙̗̰̣͕̦́a҉͉͔n̷͚̯̦ͅd͏̝̦̬͈͉͉̫ ̷̗͕̹̹̳͉̫S̩̜̙̱a̲͟v̩̜̣i̧̪̠̰̤̻o̞͍u̯̭͙̹͕͝r ̤H̥̙̺e̛ ̦C̵̟̙o͈͇̥̬̳̻̯m̩̙̣̩̣̬͍e̙̝̮̬̤̘̟s̥̣̞͎̟ ̶̝͔͙̙̣̠t̴̤͓o̩̱̬̦̼
23:55:20 <boily> ̛̼D̲̙͕é͍̤̰̫l͔͉̯ͅi̦̘̬̞̕v̸̘͈͎̱͕̲e̫̫̜̫̺̞͢r̥̮̻͈͉͓̝ ͈̥̭͓U̕s̯͓̩̟̠ ͖̜̯̘̻̱̀ͅF̀ro͎m̯͝ ̗̰̩̣M͈̝a҉k̷̪̱̲̭̥į̣̞̹̻͈̮̠ng͓͚̻̠ ̮̥͍͍̩̝̹͘S̕e̻̤̰̜̭̠n̹s̴e̸̠͓̱̤
23:56:02 <oerjan> hm in fact i was just using it as an actual test file, then reverting.
23:56:25 <oerjan> i've changed to using testing for that purpose.
23:57:25 <oerjan> fungot: are you much related to Zalgo?
23:57:25 <fungot> oerjan: chicken isn't logged, is it? i would never expect shivers to be available.
23:57:56 <oerjan> fungot: boily's chickens are definitely logged.
23:57:57 <fungot> oerjan: if i could get ready on thursday?
23:58:17 <oerjan> fungot: well that's today where i am
23:58:17 <fungot> oerjan: also, were you? that's rather nasty. i can not use those languages
23:59:18 <boily> fungot: I know oerjan uses unusual languages, but they aren't nasty. well... resonably not nasty.
23:59:19 <fungot> boily: and the dog doesn't? you can make sort of os architecture are we talking about shooting yourself in the situation you are using it
23:59:26 * boily doesn't like Norwegian "til"
23:59:33 <boily> fungot: we got a dog?
23:59:33 <fungot> boily: ofcourse, i wrote that lazy streams thing after i finally figured out the " joy of cats". i could always use fold.
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