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00:19:02 <fizzie> @metar KBOS
00:19:02 <lambdabot> KBOS 102254Z 21008KT 10SM FEW017 SCT036 BKN070 BKN220 26/24 A3008 RMK AO2 RAB23E49 SLP185 P0002 T02560239
00:19:10 <fizzie> So humid.
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00:23:28 <hppavilion[1]> WOW Hippie Vans are complicated
00:24:03 <hppavilion[1]> The Volkswagen Transporter (Hippie Van) is sometimes referred to as the "Type 2" because of its factory designation (Type 1 was the Beetle/slugbug)
00:24:13 <hppavilion[1]> There have been three versions of the Type 2
00:24:25 <hppavilion[1]> Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3 (yeah, this is going to get confusing)
00:25:14 <hppavilion[1]> T2 came in two generations- T2a ("early bay") and T2b ("late bay")
00:25:22 <hppavilion[1]> T2b is the one without the split winshield
00:25:58 <hppavilion[1]> A T2c was also sold in South Africa for a while (it may still be, I'm not sure)
00:26:05 <hppavilion[1]> The difference being... the roof is 4 inches higher
00:26:33 <hppavilion[1]> There are now the Type 3, Type 4, Type 5, and the modern Type 6
00:26:58 <hppavilion[1]> But the T4 is where it stops being recognizable
00:27:09 <hppavilion[1]> Because the engine compartment is forward
00:27:21 <hppavilion[1]> T5 doesn't even look like the same model any more
00:28:06 <hppavilion[1]> There are also pickup variants, but we do not speak of those
00:28:27 <hppavilion[1]> (Does this make me a hippie scholar now? Can I get a PhD in hippiology?)
00:28:32 <hppavilion[1]> (dr-man hppavilion[1])
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00:34:02 <myname> no
00:38:52 <boily> `wisdom
00:38:53 <HackEgo> cube//Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however.
00:39:17 <boily> I'm going to guess b_jonas, with oerjan overtones.
00:39:23 <boily> `culprits wisdom/cube
00:39:25 <HackEgo> int-e int-e ais523 oerjan
00:39:31 <boily> darn.
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01:09:03 <izabera> stupid disney.com redirects me to disney.it if i enable js
01:09:09 <izabera> and if i don't, i can't play videos
01:10:05 <boily> izabellora. disney.it doesn't work?
01:10:16 <Phantom_Hoover> surely all disney's videos are on youtube
01:10:22 <izabera> they don't seem to have have anything about moana as of now
01:10:43 <Phantom_Hoover> isn't that because moana is a well known italian porn star/politician
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01:11:06 <izabera> yes
01:11:23 <izabera> the film will be called oceania in italy and several other countries in eu
01:11:36 <izabera> and disney.it got nothing about it yet
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01:18:09 <izabera> http://www.disney.com/?intoverride=true yeeah
01:18:12 <oerjan> <boily> darn. <-- *MWAHAHA*hoily.
01:23:38 <boily> gørjand kveld
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01:31:21 <boily> `relcome byteflame
01:31:22 <HackEgo> byteflame: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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01:37:00 <boily> `relcome hppavilion[1]
01:37:02 <HackEgo> hppavilion[1]: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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02:00:40 <oerjan> as in, he just sent those email messages.
02:00:52 <oerjan> argh wong rindwow
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02:14:30 <quintopia> is there such a thing as continuous chess?
02:16:07 <moonythedwarf> Elaborate
02:16:12 <moonythedwarf> Dont be esoteric
02:16:59 <moonythedwarf> (;
02:17:17 * boily checkmately mapoles moonythedwarf
02:17:43 <boily> quinthellopia!
02:17:47 <oerjan> `quote glurk
02:17:48 <HackEgo> 678) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. <fizzie> Glurk.
02:17:48 * moonythedwarf slaps boily with a rainbow trout
02:17:58 <boily> `d20
02:18:00 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: d20: not found
02:18:03 <boily> beuh...
02:18:07 <shachaf> d20
02:18:07 <lambdabot> shachaf: 18
02:18:08 <oerjan> quintopia: that was from a previous continuous chess experiment hth
02:18:15 <boily> moonythedwarf: I dodged.
02:18:16 <Phantom_Hoover> was that how the centre of mass thing started
02:18:21 <Phantom_Hoover> i forget
02:18:23 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: hm maybe.
02:18:27 * moonythedwarf slaps boily with a big red brick
02:18:32 <boily> time to do a sleep check...
02:18:37 <Phantom_Hoover> plz don't ask me to explain continuous chess again, i need to go to bed
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02:21:31 <oerjan> `mkx bin/d20//echo lambdabot: d20
02:21:33 <HackEgo> bin/d20
02:21:34 <oerjan> `d20
02:21:35 <HackEgo> lambdabot: d20
02:21:39 <oerjan> hm nope
02:21:45 <oerjan> oh hm
02:21:52 <oerjan> `mkx bin/d20//echo d20
02:21:53 <HackEgo> bin/d20
02:21:57 <oerjan> `d20
02:21:58 <HackEgo> d20
02:21:58 <lambdabot> HackEgo: 14
02:22:20 <shachaf> 4d20+d2
02:22:20 <lambdabot> shachaf: 47 + 2 => 49
02:23:22 <myname> d1
02:23:22 <lambdabot> myname: 1
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02:24:05 <myname> d0
02:24:12 <myname> d2
02:24:12 <lambdabot> myname: 2
02:24:17 <shachaf> d1
02:24:17 <lambdabot> shachaf: 1
02:24:22 <shachaf> d1*10+2*5
02:24:22 <lambdabot> shachaf: 1 * 10 + 2 * 5 => 20
02:24:56 <myname> 4*d20+4d20
02:24:56 <lambdabot> myname: 4 * 6 + 29 => 53
02:25:05 <myname> i like it
02:25:31 <myname> 4(d20+d2)
02:25:52 <prooftechnique> 6d17 + 13d2 + 1d53
02:25:52 <lambdabot> prooftechnique: 50 + 22 + 22 => 94
02:26:56 <moonythedwarf> d-20
02:26:59 <moonythedwarf> ):
02:27:50 <myname> -d5
02:28:03 <myname> 4d20-3
02:28:03 <lambdabot> myname: 51 - 3 => 48
02:28:11 <myname> 4d20-3d2
02:28:11 <lambdabot> myname: 52 - (2+1+2) => 47
02:28:22 <myname> interesting
02:28:37 <myname> 0-d5
02:28:38 <lambdabot> myname: 0 - 5 => -5
02:28:54 * moonythedwarf slaps myname with a big red brick
02:29:06 <myname> veto
02:31:41 <oerjan> d0*(2+2)
02:31:44 <oerjan> hmph
02:31:46 <oerjan> oh
02:31:51 <oerjan> d1*(2+2)
02:31:51 <lambdabot> oerjan: 1 * (2 + 2) => 4
02:32:01 <oerjan> d5*d6
02:32:01 <lambdabot> oerjan: 5 * 3 => 15
02:32:19 <oerjan> d5^d6
02:32:27 <oerjan> DISAPPOINT
02:32:56 <moonythedwarf> d5%d6
02:33:02 <moonythedwarf> MOAR DISAPPOINT
02:33:20 <moonythedwarf> 1%2
02:33:25 <quintopia> hello
02:33:33 <moonythedwarf> EVEN MOAR DISAPPOINT
02:33:41 <moonythedwarf> lambdabot: 34 % 43
02:33:55 <moonythedwarf> Y U NO SUPPORT MODULUS
02:34:51 <moonythedwarf> lambdabot: 4 ^ 5
02:35:02 <moonythedwarf> sin(5)
02:35:14 <moonythedwarf> lambdabot: SIN(4)
02:35:17 <moonythedwarf> oops caps
02:35:19 <shachaf> please test this in /msg
02:35:24 <moonythedwarf> kk
02:35:26 <shachaf> you're spamming the channel
02:35:33 <moonythedwarf> kk
02:36:08 <oerjan> moonythedwarf: it's not primary a calculator but a dice roller, you have to include at least one dice roll.
02:36:32 <oerjan> however, > gives you full haskell expressions.
02:36:36 <oerjan> > 4 ^ 5
02:36:37 <lambdabot> 1024
02:36:39 <prooftechnique> 4d6 ^ 3d10
02:36:58 <moonythedwarf> 4d6
02:36:58 <lambdabot> moonythedwarf: 10
02:37:01 <moonythedwarf> 3d10
02:37:01 <lambdabot> moonythedwarf: 10+5+2 => 17
02:37:12 <moonythedwarf> > 10 ^ 17
02:37:13 <lambdabot> 100000000000000000
02:37:19 <moonythedwarf> > 10 ^ 17
02:37:21 <lambdabot> 100000000000000000
02:37:21 <moonythedwarf> oh
02:37:23 <moonythedwarf> oops
02:37:40 <moonythedwarf> Wow, a perfect 100000000000000000?
02:37:45 <moonythedwarf> Eh, 10
02:37:48 <moonythedwarf> Explains it nicely
02:38:01 <oerjan> yes, it uses Integer, which are bignums.
02:38:21 <moonythedwarf> Ik
02:38:28 <moonythedwarf> > 10 ^ 117
02:38:30 <lambdabot> 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...
02:38:58 <oerjan> incidentally the line cutoff is bigger in privmsg hth
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02:52:04 <quintopia> helloerjan
02:52:09 <quintopia> anything new
02:53:03 <oerjan> well i've just about finished memorizing the lyrics to katyusha hth
02:54:09 <oerjan> as for esolangs, i dunno, i don't even keep up with the wiki these days.
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02:55:55 <quintopia> me neither
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02:59:23 <myname> i have a run in pixel dungeon with 3 artifacts and i cannot decide which to use
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03:00:24 <quintopia> pixel dungeon?
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03:00:50 <myname> a roguelike for android and desktop
03:01:03 <myname> it's like the most forked game in play store
03:01:49 <quintopia> huh
03:02:05 <oerjan> `rainbow test
03:02:06 <HackEgo> test
03:02:26 <quintopia> is it like heroes of loot?
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03:02:52 <oerjan> @tell FireFly <FireFly> `` rainbow <<<hello <-- i have fixed most of those commands so you don't need <<< and stuff hth
03:02:52 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
03:03:07 <oerjan> hm
03:03:14 <oerjan> `` rainbow what now
03:03:14 <HackEgo> what now
03:03:18 <oerjan> good
03:04:20 <myname> no
03:04:39 <myname> it is turn based and with all that equipment management we love to hate
03:04:47 <quintopia> ah
03:05:04 <quintopia> i like roguelikes with inventory mgmt
03:05:20 <quintopia> but i like it to be realtime
03:05:24 <prooftechnique> Crawl forever
03:05:47 <quintopia> if it had more fighting and platforming elts, delver would be the perfect roguelike
03:06:48 <myname> i hate realtime roguelikes
03:06:59 <myname> they remove a lot of strategy
03:07:22 <quintopia> nah
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03:08:08 <quintopia> they take out the annoying parts but keep the planning parys
03:08:09 <myname> i'd prefer dweller over delver
03:08:14 <quintopia> and add so much
03:08:23 <myname> what annoying parts?
03:09:01 <quintopia> the parts that feel more like a puzzle game than a dungeon crawl
03:09:15 <quintopia> if i want to solve puzzles, i'll play drod
03:09:49 <myname> what's drod?
03:11:36 <myname> search function sucks in that regard
03:11:38 <quintopia> http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewsitepage.php?id=90294
03:11:51 <oerjan> <quintopia> gamemanj: yes. but in this case, the optimized implementation will be the default implementation. here is a reference implementation in python: def tbf(s): print "0"*s.count(".") <-- surely you need to skip loops hth
03:12:26 <quintopia> oerjan: damn. forgot about those.
03:13:05 <quintopia> prepend a command that replaces [.] with nothing to the function body
03:14:01 <quintopia> greedily
03:14:03 <oerjan> you cannot do it with just one regular expression match hth
03:14:03 <quintopia> in a loop
03:14:10 <oerjan> ok then
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03:30:22 <oerjan> `ls speliG
03:30:23 <HackEgo> speliG
03:30:39 <oerjan> `hoag speliG
03:30:41 <HackEgo> ​<orin> fetch http://orenwatson.be/speliG
03:30:46 <oerjan> `rm speliG
03:30:47 <HackEgo> No output.
03:31:30 <oerjan> @tell orin `revert has a bug so it doesn't work reliably for uncreating files hth
03:31:30 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
03:32:31 <oerjan> @tell orin and annoyingly, it looks fine right after you've done it.
03:32:31 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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04:09:46 <hppavilion[1]> Wait, what?
04:09:56 <hppavilion[1]> #esoteric's founder is... freenode-staff?
04:10:27 <myname> being freenode staff is not that special
04:10:29 <hppavilion[1]> Oh, that probably has to do with the ChanServ thing, it makes the official owner freenode-staff so that no one on the channel looks godly because of an orange dot (in my client)
04:10:45 <hppavilion[1]> myname: No, that's the username
04:10:55 <myname> ah
04:11:27 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Not as in "the founder of #esoteric was a freenode staff member!?", but as in "the user who founded #esoteric is of the nick freenode-staff!?"
04:13:45 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: the user who founded #esoteric got deregistered
04:13:59 <oerjan> and freenode had adopted a policy of taking over foundership themselves
04:14:01 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Ah
04:14:18 <oerjan> otherwise, fizzie would have been next in line.
04:14:20 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: I'm sorry, but is there a command to figure out what the flags are for a channel?
04:14:27 <hppavilion[1]> Ah
04:14:29 <hppavilion[1]> Heh
04:14:33 <oerjan> access list
04:14:52 <oerjan> but i'm not sure if you need permissions for it
04:14:53 <hppavilion[1]> Thank you
04:16:06 <hppavilion[1]> You don't
04:16:37 <hppavilion[1]> (If there are seeeeecret flags that aren't displayed at all, then you need permissions partially)
04:16:53 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: +ARefiorstv? Seriously?
04:17:17 <hppavilion[1]> You must have been crazy 6 years, 24 weeks, and 2 days ago
04:18:14 <hppavilion[1]> (fizzie set it as +ARefiorstv set "? ago", but that doesn't tell me whether that's the current one)
04:18:34 <oerjan> i assume that's simply "all possible permissions"
04:19:07 <oerjan> in fact, i think only the founder can add flags to themselves
04:19:28 <oerjan> or flags they don't have to others
04:20:03 <hppavilion[1]> (Since the list I'm using has R as meaning only registered users can talk on one network, and as a thing that is used to automatically op someone when there are no ops online for a while on another, but obviously neither of those are used here (well, it could be the latter if the list is null))
04:20:27 <hppavilion[1]> (...I'll assume that it isn't current unless Freenode says it means something else)
04:20:32 <oerjan> R refers to a special "wipe channel" command
04:20:51 <oerjan> i don't think it's been used, at least since i got here.
04:21:05 <hppavilion[1]> Ah, R is the "recover" command
04:21:10 <Jafet> `? prefrigerator
04:21:11 <HackEgo> prefrigerator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
04:24:06 <oerjan> hppavilion[1]: also, that would have been fizzie being crazy, when he added me as op hth
04:25:42 <quintopia> oerjan: who owned it originally?
04:25:46 <hppavilion[1]> Huh
04:25:49 <hppavilion[1]> Figured it out
04:25:49 <Jafet> `learn prefrigerator Prefrigerators are generalized frigerators with built-in preconditioners for the modern precompact home. They are now available to preorder.
04:25:51 <HackEgo> Learned 'prefrigerator': prefrigerator Prefrigerators are generalized frigerators with built-in preconditioners for the modern precompact home. They are now available to preorder.
04:25:52 <hppavilion[1]> Yay
04:26:17 <hppavilion[1]> Why is everybody calling the thing in Turkey a "coup"?
04:26:26 <Jafet> `` sed -i 's/prefrigerator //' wisdom/prefrigerator
04:26:28 <HackEgo> No output.
04:27:04 <oerjan> quintopia: it was andreou when i got here, don't know if it's always been.
04:27:20 <hppavilion[1]> Since it's mainly of concern to non-mathematicians (mathematicians may care more percentagewise, but I'm going by gross numbers), shouldn't it be called a 'down'?
04:27:56 * oerjan blinks
04:28:45 * quintopia also blinks
04:29:20 * oerjan pats his swatter. "you're too good for this."
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04:31:07 <quintopia> oerjan: was it a joke? did you get it?
04:31:25 <oerjan> yes. i got it. it was bad.
04:32:25 <quintopia> oh wait
04:32:31 <quintopia> co-up
04:32:34 <quintopia> bleh
04:35:45 <hppavilion[1]> ...wow
04:36:00 <hppavilion[1]> I made a pun so bad that oerjan refused to swat me.
04:36:46 <hppavilion[1]> That's like a Texas judge saying "You know, what you did is way beyond death penalty-worthy; so much so that I'm impressed and I'm-a just let you go"
04:37:14 <myname> one of my favorites is: your send your friend a list of 10 jokes in hope that at least one of them would make him laugh. no pun in ten did.
04:37:16 <quintopia> uh no
04:38:03 <oerjan> myname: you have to keep consistent tense hth
04:38:08 <quintopia> its like you swatted a fly and then called up the police and said "hey im a murderer what are you going to do about it" and they said "meh"
04:38:41 <oerjan> i think quintopia is slightly closer hth
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04:42:06 <myname> oh yeah, sent
04:42:40 <myname> i am not used to think about tenses in english :D
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04:57:58 <quintopia> oerjan: do you have a fave pun?
04:59:12 <oerjan> . o O ( "my next one" )
04:59:39 <oerjan> aka i don't remember
04:59:40 <myname> not that funny
05:03:03 <quintopia> i think "rude officer red knows rain, dear" is right up there
05:04:09 <myname> i don't get it
05:04:12 <myname> ah
05:04:14 <myname> i do
05:04:42 <myname> i'd say it's swatworthy
05:05:08 <myname> also, the favorite japanese pun of a friend of mine is kuri to risu
05:05:11 <quintopia> yes. if it werent for the elaborate set-up it calls for
05:05:37 <quintopia> oh cross language puns are fun
05:06:49 <quintopia> i also like that one: http://brownsharpie.courtneygibbons.org/?p=285
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05:22:52 <hppavilion[1]> I have my copy of Harry Potter and the Cursed Child
05:22:58 <hppavilion[1]> (the script, really)
05:23:01 <hppavilion[1]> I'm planning to read it
05:23:31 <hppavilion[1]> But am I supposed to picture Hermione as Noma Dumezweni or as Emma Watson
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05:28:18 <hppavilion[1]> Grah, but Emma Watson is 26 and when TCC takes place she'd be 36
05:29:22 <oerjan> your only solution is to wait 10 years hth
05:33:07 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: which one is hotter?
05:33:28 <quintopia> i will borrow a copy soon
05:33:32 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: I can't tell if this is a trick question xD
05:34:07 <hppavilion[1]> If answering it gets me in trouble
05:34:53 <hppavilion[1]> Going by physical appearance alone, Emma Watson. Personality and intelligence are irrelevant to the discussion because it's a fictional character and the personality will be the same either way xD
05:34:54 <quintopia> you dont have to answer
05:35:03 <quintopia> decide for yourself
05:35:33 <hppavilion[1]> I was honestly probably going to use the exact same metric
05:36:08 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: Wait, but if Emma Watson tragically dies in the next 10 years, I'll never be able to read it! :,O
05:36:51 <quintopia> in that case, kill yourself hth
05:37:18 <hppavilion[1]> Wait...
05:37:35 <hppavilion[1]> Harry Potter starts going to Hogwarts in 1991, at age 11
05:37:44 <quintopia> sure
05:38:05 <hppavilion[1]> The final book is at age 17, and if we assume it's early 11 and late 17, that makes it a 7 year gap in the books
05:38:30 <hppavilion[1]> The epilogue of Deathly Hallows takes place "19 years later" and [SPOILERS] TCC starts there
05:38:32 <hppavilion[1]> So...
05:39:01 <hppavilion[1]> That means TCC takes place in 2017, I think
05:39:04 <shachaf> in my opinion "which one is hotter?" and "kill yourself" are both quite out of place in here
05:39:05 <quintopia> yes
05:39:11 <shachaf> so please stop it
05:39:36 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Yes, unless we're discussing (a) stars and lasers and (b) ...quantum immortality maybe?
05:40:04 <quintopia> then again harry potter is out of place too
05:40:37 <shachaf> not particularly
05:41:01 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Not as much though
05:41:51 <hppavilion[1]> "Which is hotter" in the context of attractiveness is out of place on #esoteric because #esoteric is a small room where beings of pure, formless energy converse
05:43:55 <hppavilion[1]> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-ethical-singularity doesn't seem quite as crazy on the fifth reading
05:44:57 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: but you agree it is a good metric for deciding how to visually imagine a cgaracter in a piece of fiction so it was perfectly germane to the conversation at hand
05:46:11 <hppavilion[1]> ...yeah, but we like to pretend that it isn't part of being a non-asexual human
05:47:34 <quintopia> i dont like to pretend
05:47:51 <quintopia> i try to stay honest with myself
05:47:59 <izabera> pretend to like to pretend
05:48:19 <hppavilion[1]> (Really, I was just going for "is there anything in the book for which race is relevant?"; I suppose that (a) no, because it's a play and should be approximately reproducible with a completely different set of actors and (b) if it actually is relevant, it'd definitely be mentioned- then again, I'm reading it in script form, so there isn't really a way to mention it outside the very beginning)
05:48:22 <quintopia> i do that sometimes
05:48:29 <quintopia> butni dont enjoy it
05:49:01 <hppavilion[1]> I've also realized that reading a book in script form is probably pretty good for me, because it's basically just bullet points of story
05:49:12 <hppavilion[1]> And bullet points are very nice
05:49:20 <quintopia> i see no reason race is relevant at all. i find it a stranfe question.
05:49:35 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Well it's possible to have a story where the race of characters is important
05:50:10 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Most obviously TKaMb, but it's also possible with non-racially-oriented stories
05:50:14 <quintopia> now i am forced to admit that there arent many blacks named Granger...
05:50:47 <quintopia> yes it is possible to have such a story but hp doesnt seem like one
05:51:16 <hppavilion[1]> It doesn't, but it could be
05:51:36 <hppavilion[1]> There's a character interpretation where, if Hermione is black, everything feels so much more meaningful
05:52:12 <quintopia> id have to reread it all to verify that
05:52:38 <hppavilion[1]> Because as a muggle-born, the assholes asshole her; if she's black, it can become something where she thought that becoming a wizard would get her away from the racism, but it turns out wizards have their own racism that she ALSO is susceptible to
05:53:22 <quintopia> was racism a big issue in early 90s svotland?
05:53:28 <quintopia> scotland
05:57:07 <MDude> Maybe?
05:57:27 <MDude> And by that, I mean I know people mostly fougyht with their neighbors.
05:57:49 <quintopia> ?
05:59:12 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: Not ostensibly, but I see "is racism an issue" as a matter of "are more than ~5% of people racist" rather than "are there any racists at all in the country"
05:59:21 <hppavilion[1]> And 5% is still a REALLY big number
05:59:31 <hppavilion[1]> I mean, 2% is a better number I suppose
05:59:48 <MDude> Oh wait, early 90.
06:00:05 <MDude> I'm tired and read early [number] as meaning ancient times.
06:00:15 <MDude> Like 1890s
06:00:22 <MDude> Or earlier centuries.
06:01:33 <hppavilion[1]> Ah xD
06:04:44 <quintopia> hppavilion[1]: it seems clear to me that rowling intended most of the hp characters to be white, but (possibly intentionally) left open the possibility they werent
06:05:10 <hppavilion[1]> 2.2% of people in the UK are black ATM, so if we assume that all characters' races are selected completely at random when race is not a significant factor (let's pretend they are; they aren't, but it probably still approximates), the odds of none of the main characters being black is around 94%. Which is obviously completely meaningless, but I'm really just a fan of doing statistics for fun and don't care about the odds as they
06:05:10 <hppavilion[1]> contribute to the book
06:17:45 <izabera> https://github.com/chatziko/location-guard/
06:29:22 <hppavilion[1]> Some areas of my opinions, I think, have reached the point of "meta-feminist"
06:29:59 <hppavilion[1]> A big thing that feminists- across all waves- want to do is "raise strong, confident daughters, and tell girls that it's OK to stand up for yourself"
06:30:52 <hppavilion[1]> Mine is "Being a strong, confident woman is perfectly normal and good, but it's also usually completely fine if you want to be dependent and let other people do the talking for you. Whatever feels best for you"
06:31:22 <hppavilion[1]> ("(you should be able to stand up for yourself if you need to, but you don't have to do it all the time)")
06:32:21 <izabera> so how is that related to feminism?
06:32:30 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: Because it goes to the meta...
06:32:32 <hppavilion[1]> I thought it was clear
06:33:07 <izabera> is that also meta-antifemminism?
06:33:19 <hppavilion[1]> izabera: ...no?
06:34:20 <hppavilion[1]> Really, meta-feminism probably ties together with anti-feminism; whenever you go up by a level of freedom, the lower level seems wrong and oppressive
06:35:24 <hppavilion[1]> Sort of like how a dystopic society where speaking political dissent is a crime- but holding the opinions isn't- will see a society where even holding those opinions is a crime the same way our society sees them
06:35:31 <hppavilion[1]> And really, there's probably another level up
06:35:53 <hppavilion[1]> There's probably an uber-free level of society above us that would see our society as a horrible dystopia
06:36:07 <hppavilion[1]> But I can't think of what that might be
06:37:22 <hppavilion[1]> But I got these ideas from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, of all places
06:37:35 <hppavilion[1]> Instead of being about raising all girls to be strong, confident women who don't need no man
06:37:46 <hppavilion[1]> It has several characters, some of which fit that description and others of which don't
06:38:07 <hppavilion[1]> [fandom mode activated]
06:38:35 <hppavilion[1]> While Twilight fits perfectly into the stereotypical positive, strong roll model for little girls
06:38:50 <hppavilion[1]> Fluttershy very much doesn't, more reminiscent of the Classic-era Disney princesses
06:39:23 <FireFly> @messages-clear
06:39:23 <myname> "whenever you go up a level"
06:39:24 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
06:39:27 <FireFly> oh well
06:39:34 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Of freedom
06:39:37 <hppavilion[1]> I needed words
06:39:38 <FireFly> @messages-loud
06:39:38 <lambdabot> oerjan said 3h 36m 45s ago: <FireFly> `` rainbow <<<hello <-- i have fixed most of those commands so you don't need <<< and stuff hth
06:39:41 <hppavilion[1]> And that's what I got
06:39:43 <shachaf> FireFly: @clear-messages hth
06:39:56 <FireFly> shachaf: o, tdh
06:39:58 <myname> meta meta is not the same as anti anti, even in this case
06:40:05 <hppavilion[1]> And it is shown that this DOES cause trouble sometimes, but that it's OK to be demure, softspoken, keeping to yourself and loving a quiet, peaceful life is OK too
06:40:12 <hppavilion[1]> myname: Perhaps not
06:40:31 <FireFly> oerjan: ah, neat
06:40:36 <hppavilion[1]> (whoops, tripped up on my words there)
06:40:58 <FireFly> shalomchaf
06:41:57 <shachaf> HejrFly
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07:10:33 <hppavilion[1]> Goddammit
07:11:16 <hppavilion[1]> Twitter blocked my account because I was exhibiting bot-like behaviors (apparently)
07:11:33 <hppavilion[1]> And to get unblocked I have to verify my phone number
07:11:44 <quintopia> well dont be botlike then
07:11:45 <hppavilion[1]> Except I don't have or want a phone
07:12:22 <quintopia> time for a new account
07:13:00 <quintopia> also since when is it not allowed to be a bot on twitter
07:13:01 <hppavilion[1]> quintopia: That'll probably just get my entire IP banned
07:13:06 <hppavilion[1]> No idea
07:13:12 <hppavilion[1]> Probably you have to register as a bot
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07:37:32 <izabera> https://www.google.com/search?q=oreo+swedish&tbm=isch this fucking thing
07:44:44 <FireFly> wut
07:44:52 <FireFly> sounds horrible
07:55:42 <oerjan> how can you go wrong with surströmming-flavored oreos
07:56:24 <nortti> better question would be how you could go right with those
07:56:39 <oerjan> weapon industry?
07:58:02 <nortti> chemical weaponry is banned by geneva treaty
08:00:51 <oerjan> hm tricky
08:01:06 <oerjan> pest control?
08:14:49 <hppavilion[1]> nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope
08:15:31 <hppavilion[1]> nortti: God, I wish that Geneva was in Sweden or that the fish were Swiss
08:15:42 <FireFly> Why?
08:15:59 <hppavilion[1]> Damn, in the alternate universe where they make Swiss Cheese-flavored oreos, the jokes are SO much better
08:17:47 <hppavilion[1]> But mostly because the people who eat it (and promptly rot alive) are people who THINK they're being funny because they have no understanding of TRUE comedy
08:23:51 <oerjan> i find your last line intensely meta-self-referential hth
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08:44:23 <quintopia> sick burn
08:45:00 <oerjan> well it was a sick joke.
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09:06:39 <lynn> 07:35 <hppavilion[1]> There's probably an uber-free level of society above us that would see our society as a horrible dystopia
09:07:00 <lynn> Have you read Three Worlds Collide
09:07:03 <hppavilion[1]> oerjan: ...well yeah
09:07:13 <hppavilion[1]> lynn: No, what is it?
09:07:16 <hppavilion[1]> Vashta Nerada
09:07:18 <hppavilion[1]> Sleep tight
09:08:13 <lynn> It's a short story relevant to that thought! Coincidentally this channel introduced me to it
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11:48:37 <boily> `wisdom
11:48:38 <HackEgo> nortti//nortti is a very nortti boy. He yielded to shikhin's promises, and now is his High Priest.
11:49:28 <gamemanj> ...???
11:49:55 <FireFly> how nortti
11:51:24 <gamemanj> `? shikhin
11:51:24 <HackEgo> shikhin is a Malevolent God, who will promise you stuff tomorrow.
11:53:44 <gamemanj> ~>?~}{+-.,\*_!&%tell shikhin please don't kill me!
11:54:08 <gamemanj> ...you'd have thought one of those characters would have triggered a bot...
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12:17:48 <boily> @tell shikhin shellokhin. gamemanj would like very much for you to not do anything malevolent towards their person hth
12:17:48 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
12:18:03 <gamemanj> boily: thank you!
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12:26:05 <gamemanj> wow, wisdom is so wise!
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12:56:05 <Jafet> it knows all the house and wise.
13:01:02 <gamemanj> @tell boily wisdom.pdf typesetting (error???) found: <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious
13:01:02 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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18:05:33 <orin> swedish fish oreos? what has become of the thing once called man?
18:10:16 <Phantom_Hoover> every day we stray further from god's light
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18:52:33 <hppavilion[1]> God, I wish there was a way to temporarily forget 100% of my Star Wars knowledge (down to the basic premise) and watch the whole series anew
18:52:46 <hppavilion[1]> See how it is
18:53:28 <hppavilion[1]> Because my parents showed me Star Wars too early (even by their own admission; I was 6, my mom had cancer, they were running out of distractions), so I don't remember the end of Empire.
18:58:21 <shikhin> nortti: You are my High Priest?
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19:01:54 <gamemanj> shikhin: Did the @tell not work...?
19:02:16 <gamemanj> Ok, then, to reiterate,
19:02:33 <gamemanj> could you please not kill me?
19:02:40 <gamemanj> Pleaassee?
19:02:56 <shikhin> gamemanj: It did work. I'm afraid I can't promise not to kill you.
19:03:22 * gamemanj gulps
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19:40:45 <hppavilion[1]> Upon close examination of the 2011 release of Star Wars- specifically the controversial Han/Greedo confrontation sequence in the Mos Eisley Cantina scene- I've decide that, while Greedo technically shot first, Han's timing was close enough that the meaning is preserved (the way things go down, he was waiting for Greedo to fire; you can't fire back that quickly if you aren't specifically planning to. We can interpret Han waiting to shoot
19:40:45 <hppavilion[1]> second as not a matter of ethics and a code of honor, but a matter of if-he-fires-the-first-shot-I'm-not-legally-liable)
19:41:35 <FreeFull> Han knew Greedo will shoot either way
19:43:10 <hppavilion[1]> True, but it's less legally messy if Greedo fires the first shot
19:43:27 <hppavilion[1]> Remember, Han is a smuggler, but Greedo is a bounty hunter
19:43:51 <hppavilion[1]> Greedo's job is illegal and obvious- there's no way to get around it. If there isn't a dead body, you didn't do your job
19:44:02 <alercah> hppavilion[1]: or a prisoner
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19:45:10 <hppavilion[1]> So Greedo certainly knows how to deal with murder charges- it's part of his job description- but Han, as a generally non-violent criminal, prefers to be legally safe when he does have to kill someone
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20:48:46 <izabera> hey, does anyone know cloudatcost?
20:49:45 <izabera> i just bought a server and i'm setting it up and i'm wondering if you can change your mind on the config once it's installed
20:50:54 <izabera> faq says you can change os at any time
20:50:58 <izabera> so that solves it
20:51:00 <izabera> thanks guys
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20:54:19 <myname> you're welcome
20:55:52 <izabera> i appreciate it
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21:16:17 <nortti> < shikhin> nortti: You are my High Priest? ← indeed. don't you remember?
21:24:09 <izabera> did anyone actually try that lwan thing?
21:24:20 <izabera> i wanna try it
21:24:22 <izabera> for arin.ga
21:24:39 <izabera> is it gonna be painful?
21:25:03 <izabera> https://lwan.ws/ this thing
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22:23:10 <orin> I like the word "frustrum"
22:26:23 <Zarutian> orin: it confines and directs frustration?
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22:33:38 <fizzie> izabera: No HTTP/2? So retro.
22:39:00 <izabera> i don't really need it
22:39:12 <izabera> it's for arin.ga
22:39:27 <izabera> wait i said that already
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23:21:24 <boily> @metar CYUL
23:21:25 <lambdabot> CYUL 112200Z 21009G18KT 15SM FEW050 BKN250 31/20 A2990 RMK CU1CI6 CU TR SLP126 DENSITY ALT 1900FT
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23:27:34 <moon_> 107080406
23:27:37 <moon_> .say $ticks
23:27:41 <moon_> $ticks
23:27:43 <moon_> ):
23:27:45 <moon_> 107091171
23:27:46 <moon_> 107092062
23:27:47 <moon_> 107092640
23:27:47 <moon_> 107093078
23:27:56 <moon_> oh wrong channel
23:27:57 <moon_> woops
23:28:18 <boily> mhelloon_!
23:28:22 <moon_> Hi
23:31:27 <boily> @massages-loud
23:31:31 <lambdabot> gamemanj said 10h 30m 25s ago: wisdom.pdf typesetting (error???) found: <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious
23:31:54 <boily> gamemanj: gamellomanj. trying to update the PDF? :D
23:37:56 <orin> @quote \[oren]|
23:37:56 <lambdabot> Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"\[oren]|" (line 1, column 9):
23:37:56 <lambdabot> unexpected end of input
23:37:56 <lambdabot> expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom)
23:38:12 <orin> @quote [oren]
23:38:12 <lambdabot> OlegFacts says: Oleg's latest project is re-writing Emacs... in the type system.
23:38:27 <orin> @quote [[]oren[]]
23:38:27 <lambdabot> No quotes match. You speak an infinite deal of nothing.
23:38:35 <boily> @quote \[oren\]
23:38:35 <lambdabot> No quotes match. Where did you learn to type?
23:38:39 <orin> @quote oren
23:38:39 <lambdabot> No quotes match. Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly.
23:38:42 * boily mapoles lambdabot
23:39:17 <boily> fizzie: fizziello. FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
23:39:17 <orin> @quote z
23:39:17 <lambdabot> No quotes match. Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly.
23:39:19 <moon_> @quote !@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/
23:39:19 <lambdabot> No quotes match. stty: unknown mode: doofus
23:39:28 <boily> @quote quote
23:39:28 <lambdabot> shachaf says: <cmccann> shachaf jokes are what the quotes section of HWN is for. <cmccann> though lately there have been not as many :[ <shachaf> cmccann: Hey, there wasn't a single shachaf quote in the last HWN! <shachaf> Leave me alone. <shachaf> There were two cmccann quotes.
23:39:42 <moon_> @quote \[oren]|
23:39:42 <lambdabot> Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"\[oren]|" (line 1, column 9):
23:39:42 <lambdabot> unexpected end of input
23:39:42 <lambdabot> expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom)
23:39:46 <moon_> @quote \[oren]
23:39:46 <lambdabot> No quotes match. The more you drive -- the dumber you get.
23:39:51 <moon_> @quote !@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/|
23:39:51 <lambdabot> Plugin `quote' failed with: user error (parseRegex for Text.Regex.TDFA.String failed:"!@#$%^*()\[]{}-=+_<>?/|" (line 1, column 24):
23:39:52 <lambdabot> unexpected end of input
23:39:52 <lambdabot> expecting empty () or anchor ^ or $ or an atom)
23:39:57 <moon_> its the |
23:39:58 <orin> @quote by
23:39:58 <lambdabot> No quotes match. I don't think I can be your friend on Facebook anymore.
23:40:11 <boily> that b is suspicious hth
23:40:13 <moon_> @quote moon
23:40:13 <lambdabot> dmead says: Here on the moon, our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week
23:40:16 <moon_> @quote moon
23:40:16 <lambdabot> chrisdone says: “monads are like a finger pointing away to the moon. *smack* don't look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory…”
23:40:21 <orin> `quote by
23:40:22 <HackEgo> 1224) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious
23:40:22 <moon_> @quote y
23:40:22 <lambdabot> mjard says: <sixthgear> hey mjard at 4'3" and 400 lbs, your height-weight ratio should make you pretty close to spherical?! / <mjard> that's how I roll
23:40:28 <orin> wrong bot
23:40:55 <moon_> [s]thats sad, a wrong bot situation. sad[/s] lol
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