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00:09:27 <zgrep> `tomfoolery @
00:09:28 <HackEgo> ​|a+b@| = { √(a²-b²) if a²-b² ≥ 0 ; i√(a²-b²) if a²-b² < 0 }
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00:26:40 <hppavilion[1]> I've just blocked tynt. Yay.
00:27:17 <Zarutian> what is tynt?
00:27:23 <hppavilion[1]> Um, isn't that just √(a²-b²)?
00:27:38 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: You know how some sites add an obnoxious "Read more: <link>" at the end of a copy-paste
00:27:44 <hppavilion[1]> And if you miss it it gets mixed in
00:27:52 <hppavilion[1]> And it has a few newlines that make it REALLY shitty on IRC?
00:27:54 <Zarutian> I see, yes.
00:28:06 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Almost every site apparently uses the same script, and it's Tynt
00:28:23 <hppavilion[1]> Blocking *.tynt.com/* seems to kill it.
00:28:45 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: Please get everyone you know to do so so we can kill this horrible, horrible cancer on the internet.
00:28:46 <Zarutian> have seen it used with (From <short url>) appened
00:29:28 <Zarutian> basically auto-citation
00:29:55 <Zarutian> no newlines added though
00:30:37 <fizzie> hppavilion[1]: How could it be "just √(a²-b²)" when it's i√(a²-b²) half the time?
00:30:48 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: It- oh, I see. nvm.
00:31:08 <hppavilion[1]> Zarutian: That's nice. I could work with that that. If I could add an option to my right click menu that does that, I would. Maybe even make a variant of ^c that does it automagically
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00:31:51 <fizzie> (I don't know if it's intentionally like that, or if the other half was supposed to be i√(b²-a²), in which case it would be what you said. I wasn't reading when this whole @ thing was around.)
00:31:52 <hppavilion[1]> (ctrl+d maybe? If that's not already reserved?)
00:31:58 <Zarutian> think a site did it by basically doing whatever this horrible tynt.com script does
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00:32:11 <hppavilion[1]> Yeah
00:32:31 <hppavilion[1]> This is the script: http://tcr.tynt.com/ti.js
00:33:18 <Zarutian> but it only went into effect if you copied something like a paragraph. (Seemed the guy intentionally thought of IRC message limits and kept it above that)
00:33:36 <hppavilion[1]> It literally contains «600,_idMacro:"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" Read more: http://tcr.tynt.com/ti.js»
00:34:13 <hppavilion[1]> (I added the read more as a joke ftr)
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00:40:53 <hppavilion[1]> I, hppavilion1, God of IRC formatting, do henceforth declare that what were hitherto known as Guillemets- the "« »" things that those fuckin' French use- shall henceforth be known as "code quotes" and be used to unambiguously quote code.
00:43:26 * boily Frenchly «thwacks» hppavilion[1] sur la tête. tsé.
00:43:53 * Zarutian just give hppavilion[1] a „look“
00:43:58 <Zarutian> gives*
00:44:05 <hppavilion[1]> boily: I was talking about the OTHER French
00:44:09 <hppavilion[1]> You know, the ones that aren't you.
00:44:42 * hppavilion[1] . ø Ø ( ...are there French programming languages that actually use those? )
00:45:38 <boily> we do use the same guillemets here.
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00:47:48 <FireFly> actually, what does the word 'guillemet' translate as?
00:47:56 <FireFly> we all them goose eyes
00:47:58 <hppavilion[1]> FireFly: "guillemot"
00:48:05 <FireFly> helpful
00:48:06 <hppavilion[1]> :P
00:48:33 <hppavilion[1]> boily: ...your point? "Those fuckin' French" was about the fuckers FROM France. France the country.
00:48:45 <hppavilion[1]> Frenchland Frenchland über alles and so forth.
00:49:25 <moony> free the whales
00:51:26 <hppavilion[1]> moony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPFvQeIdu_E, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9wydLxKFQ
00:52:26 <Zarutian> FireFly: them goose feet ya mean
00:53:47 <moony> hppavilion[1], ):
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00:56:32 <boily> mwhalloony.
00:56:47 <fizzie> Funciton uses «/» for push/pop on lists, but I don't think it's particularly French.
00:57:08 * boily thwack thwack thwack hppavilion[1]. fuckers are universal. there's a little fucker in all of us.
00:57:19 <hppavilion[1]> True.
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00:57:26 <hppavilion[1]> fizzie: Funciton is spectial.
00:57:37 <hppavilion[1]> (...I'll just pretend that was a pun)
00:58:55 <hppavilion[1]> FireFly: Guillemet is the diminutive of "Guillaume", which is a name akin to "William"
00:59:04 <FireFly> oh okay
00:59:20 <hppavilion[1]> FireFly: So it translates roughly to "Bill's Penis"
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01:12:27 * boily continues thwacking hppavilion[1]
01:18:49 * hppavilion[1] starts to enjoy it
01:18:57 <hppavilion[1]> (thus making it weird for boily)
01:19:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ehird * deleted "[[Brainfuck Derivative Ghetto]]": No.
01:19:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Brainfuck Derivative Ghetto]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50559&oldid=50557 * Ehird * (+199) /* I'm worried about this, please stop */
01:21:31 <hppavilion[1]> *sigh*
01:21:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Morsefuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50560&oldid=50552 * Ehird * (-105) rm harassment
01:22:14 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50561&oldid=50400 * Ferrosurgeon * (+209) Suggested Julia for implementing, added categories
01:22:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50562&oldid=50093 * Ehird * (-832) rm crusading
01:22:56 <hppavilion[1]> *sigh*
01:25:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50563&oldid=50561 * Ferrosurgeon * (-9) Turing-complete LUT note change
01:25:52 * hppavilion[1] blames Phantom_Hoover
01:26:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Hppavilion1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50564&oldid=44776 * Ehird * (+393) /* Inappropriate edit */ new section
01:26:49 <quintopia> helloily
01:27:09 <FireFly> Huh, elliott
01:27:31 <quintopia> yeah thats surprising
01:28:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Lutfig]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50565 * Ferrosurgeon * (+15) Created page with "Please comment."
01:32:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50566&oldid=50563 * Ferrosurgeon * (+9) m+n must be positive
01:32:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50567&oldid=50566 * Ferrosurgeon * (+0) WIP tag relocation
01:33:32 <boily> quinthellopia!
01:33:47 <boily> the thing in the box is in the mail.
01:33:52 <boily> wait.
01:33:54 <boily> wait wait wait.
01:34:11 <boily> on top of Gregor being alive (but actively denying it), elliott's alive too???
01:34:42 * boily stops thwacking hppavilion[1] momentarily...
01:35:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50568&oldid=50567 * Ferrosurgeon * (-20) Probability distributions are only for LUTs
01:37:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User talk:Hppavilion1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50569&oldid=50564 * Ehird * (-36) /* Inappropriate edit */ fix link, oops
01:38:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50570&oldid=50568 * Ferrosurgeon * (+8) Again
01:44:11 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50571&oldid=50570 * Ferrosurgeon * (+234) Rewrote Turing-probabilistic relationship
01:45:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lutfig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50572&oldid=50571 * Ferrosurgeon * (+26) Bookkeeping now own bullet
01:47:30 <hppavilion[1]> Spanish is a rather distinctive language
02:04:01 <boily> everything is distinct from everything else. if you go through an automorphism, is it the same object you're at?
02:13:12 <quintopia> well...im in budapest. hope my dad does not drink it before i return
02:16:13 <boily> that's not near.
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02:27:03 <zzo38> How can you generate a suitable palette for use with HAM or EHB modes? There are many different algorithm to make the optimal palette for a picture, but nothing for HAM or EHB modes or for when part of the palette is fixed (or for when both of these are true).
02:27:39 <hppavilion[1]> boily: (a) yes
02:28:06 <hppavilion[1]> boily: (b) Spanish is more distinctive from most because you can identify with relative certainty that what you're looking at is, in fact, Spanish given a single character
02:28:33 <hppavilion[1]> boily: For several unrelated characters
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02:28:49 <hppavilion[1]> ñ, ¡, ¿
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02:35:09 <hppavilion[1]> `fuckyou hppavilion[1]
02:35:14 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fuckyou: not found
02:35:18 <hppavilion[1]> `fuckoff hppavilion[1]
02:35:19 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fuckoff: not found
02:35:27 <hppavilion[1]> Ham, I seem to remember there being a `thanks variant
02:35:35 <hppavilion[1]> `thanks hppavilion[1]
02:35:39 <HackEgo> Thanks, hppavilion[1]. Thavilion[1].
02:36:10 <hppavilion[1]> `thanks HackEgo
02:36:11 <HackEgo> Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo.
02:36:18 <hppavilion[1]> `thanks thanking
02:36:19 <HackEgo> Thanks, thanking. Thanking.
02:37:58 <hppavilion[1]> `thanks
02:38:15 <HackEgo> Thanks, bryn. Thyn.
02:38:21 <hppavilion[1]> Ham.
02:38:32 <hppavilion[1]> `which thnaks
02:38:34 <HackEgo> No output.
02:38:34 <hppavilion[1]> `which thanks
02:38:35 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/thanks
02:38:42 <hppavilion[1]> `cat /hackenv/bin/thanks
02:38:42 <HackEgo> ​#!/usr/bin/perl -CSDA \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_.";
02:38:46 <hppavilion[1]> PERL
02:38:49 <hppavilion[1]> AAAAAAAAGH
02:39:04 * boily resumes the hppavilionthwacking.
02:39:18 <hppavilion[1]> `thanks thwacker
02:39:19 <HackEgo> Thanks, thwacker. Thacker.
02:39:28 <hppavilion[1]> `thwanks thwaker
02:39:29 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: thwanks: not found
02:39:31 <hppavilion[1]> Bah!
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04:05:21 <izabera> Genie: Whats your first wish?
04:05:23 <izabera> Dave: I wish I was rich.
04:05:25 <izabera> Genie: Granted, what's your second wish?
04:05:27 <izabera> Rich: I want lots of money.
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04:43:15 <Jafet> thus began the story of the profligate formerly known as rich
04:56:41 <rdococ> crickets
04:57:46 <rdococ> I'm so alone ;-;
04:58:11 <rdococ> bananana
04:58:47 <rdococ> BanNanaNa
04:59:11 <rdococ> can someone please talk?
04:59:29 <rdococ> hppa
04:59:39 <rdococ> is almost an anagram of happy
05:00:08 <rdococ> hppavilion[1] = {}
05:03:22 <izabera> hey rdococ what's up
05:03:34 <rdococ> oh my god someone is talking to me
05:04:46 <rdococ> I'm bored
05:05:40 <izabera> me too
05:05:44 <izabera> but it's 6 am
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06:03:37 <\oren\> Good evening
06:04:28 <izabera> what did i *just* say
06:05:14 <\oren\> I'm drunk!
06:05:45 <\oren\> I have had two fancy beers and several glasses of some sort of wine thing
06:13:38 <izabera> what beers?
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06:14:55 <zzo38> Next time you have to be more careful and don't get too much drunk.
06:19:42 <\oren\> I don't knwo creemore thingy
06:19:55 <\oren\> it was borwn
06:22:03 <shachaf> zzo38: Why?
06:22:45 <zzo38> That is the advice.
06:47:57 <zzo38> To make the palette optimizer to be able to use some fixed colours, my idea was to make the algorithm that adds exactly one colour to an existing (possibly empty) palette, according to the picture, and then to repeat the algorithm until the palette is full. How well is expect such thing to be working?
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07:19:00 <zzo38> Why does turning on the printer cause a kernel panic?
07:19:28 <izabera> o.o
07:20:06 <zzo38> I did not used to have that problem, and have been able to use it successfully, but recently it just always causes a kernel panic whenever the printer is turned on.
07:20:34 <shachaf> Maybe the kernel is buggy.
07:21:50 <zzo38> I would think so. But, what is the bug hopefully it can be corrected.
07:21:59 <zzo38> (I don't know enough about it to fix it myself)
07:24:11 <shachaf> Maybe you can apply the scientific method to find out.
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07:56:55 <zzo38> The AI in Pokemon Card GB2 will use cards such as Professor Oak and Bill a lot, and nearly always use attacks and other stuff to just draw more cards. And then run out of cards and they complain of losing...
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08:11:29 <hppavilion[1]> Do you ever wonder what some of the people on this channel are like in the fabled "Real World"?
08:13:10 <zzo38> I do not to generally think of such thing because I have other stuff to do
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08:18:49 <hppavilion[1]> zzo38: ...yeah, you're the one I was wondering about the most, actually.
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09:46:02 <zzo38> Do you like this? http://zzo38computer.org/img_13/screen1.png
09:52:00 <shachaf> Is that megazeux?
09:52:06 <zzo38> Yes
09:53:12 <shachaf> Is it Potion of Confusing?
09:53:14 <zzo38> The question marks are breakable walls with seekers underneath (in the under layer)
09:53:21 <zzo38> No, it is Super ASCII MZX Town
09:57:34 <b_jonas> making feature-rich irc clients would be SO MUCH EASIER if there weren't two different casemappings used by different networks. freenode has switched over to the iso646 style casemapping when they replaced the server software, but at least two networks (ircnet and foonetic) still use ascii casemapping.
10:00:52 <izabera> what's the difference?
10:01:08 <zzo38> The alpha signs mean fish. The exclamation marks below "Choose Wisely" are various potions, such as: healing, poison, kill enemies, summon enemies, fire walking, etc. Due to the objects surrounding in that place, it is only possible to pick up one potion.
10:01:11 <b_jonas> zzo38: how is the printer connected to the machine that gets kernel panic?
10:01:56 <zzo38> b_jonas: By USB. This printer support only USB and Wi-Fi, and I could not get the Wi-Fi to work either.
10:02:14 <b_jonas> try a different motherboard maybe
10:02:31 <b_jonas> or an usb extension card
10:04:48 <zzo38> Maybe I had it connected to a different USB port before and maybe that is why it worked before? I don't know. I will not look right now though
10:07:22 <fizzie> b_jonas: IRCnet uses ascii? I was so sure it was rfc1459 still.
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10:07:38 <b_jonas> fizzie: dunno, double-check it, I might have made a mistake
10:07:51 <fizzie> No, you're right, it does say "CASEMAPPING=ascii".
10:08:57 <fizzie> But that must be a relatively new thing, maybe around ircd 2.10/2.11 time. http://www.irc.org/tech_docs/005.html says "CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 (ircu, Hybrid, IRCNet)", "CASEMAPPING=ascii (Bahamut)".
10:10:20 <b_jonas> I still wonder what freenode did with conflicting nickserv or chanserv registrations when they switched over to ascii.
10:11:01 <b_jonas> um
10:11:04 <b_jonas> switched over from ascii
10:15:37 <Vorpal> hi
10:16:30 <Vorpal> "<lambdabot> ais523 said 20d 12h 16m 20s ago: found while trying to find cfunge's website: https://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/roche/courses/f12si413/project/befunge.php.html (apparently cfunge is genuinely being used in academia as a teaching aid, and the resulting website outranks the cfunge repo in the search I did; I didn't even realise cfunge did Befunge-93, maybe it doesn't)"
10:16:32 <Vorpal> Hm
10:17:34 <Vorpal> @tell ais523 cfunge kind of does Befunge-93. It won't be 100% compliant (it allows more stuff than it should iirc, though I kind of forgot exactly what)
10:17:34 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
10:18:11 <Vorpal> I should do something with cfunge again at some point
10:18:13 <Vorpal> hi fizzie
10:18:29 <Vorpal> fizzie, how goes things? Jitfunge and otherwise
10:20:40 <shachaf> Horpal
10:21:02 <Vorpal> shachaf, long time no see
10:21:19 <shachaf> @time
10:21:22 <lambdabot> Local time for shachaf is Thu Dec 22 02:21:19 2016
10:21:27 <Vorpal> @time
10:21:35 <Vorpal> Nothing?
10:21:47 <Vorpal> :/
10:26:15 <b_jonas> zzo38: what is "HAM or EHB modes"?
10:32:45 <zzo38> b_jonas: HAM modes is that each pixel can either be one of the colours from the palette, or it can be the same as the pixel to the left except that one of the RGB channels is changed to a new value (which does not necessarily have to come from the palette). EHB mode is like a normal palette, but the palette is doubled, and the duplicates are only half as bright instead of exact duplicates.
10:42:42 <zzo38> Hopefully this explanation is good enough?
10:42:53 <b_jonas> sure
10:43:17 <b_jonas> I haven't heard of those modes
10:44:26 <b_jonas> ah, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_16-bit_computer_hardware_palettes even mentions HAM mode and EHB mode. I didn't remember that
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12:37:21 <izabera> is this spam? http://i.imgur.com/axcIoAM.png
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12:50:11 <b_jonas> izabera: sure
12:50:31 <izabera> first time i see someone mentioning github in spam
12:53:11 <b_jonas> so? it's a popular website with lots of people having accounts there. easy to mention in spam.
12:53:35 <b_jonas> also, https://www.xkcd.com/624/
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13:52:47 <fizzie> TIL: When you use a drone to take a picture of yourself, that's called a "dronie".
13:54:04 <fizzie> (Apparently a word from 2014.)
14:12:16 <int-e> `wisdom
14:12:24 <HackEgo> _46bit//_46bit is a slightly-uptight public-schooled Brit. Taneb invented him.
14:12:33 <int-e> TIL that the Nexus series of androids has a lifetime of 4 years.
14:13:18 <int-e> I wonder whether that factored into Google's decision when they appropriated the name for their mobile devices.
14:17:33 <fizzie> Sounds a little optimistic lifetime for consumer electronics these days.
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14:51:54 <boily> `wisdom
14:51:55 <HackEgo> oregano//Oregano is the main spice in oreganic cuisine.
15:08:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * BeHuman * New user account
15:08:44 <int-e> `quote
15:08:45 <HackEgo> 506) <fizzie> Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though?
15:09:09 <int-e> ... that was a bad idea
15:09:13 <int-e> `quote
15:09:16 <HackEgo> 1080) <boily> it's not weird, it's even in alphabetical order and nicely formatted!
15:09:22 <int-e> `quote
15:09:23 <HackEgo> 184) <fizzie> And to think: if only we wouldn't celebrate birthdays, there would be no birthday paradox, and we could get by with half as long hash functions. (What do you mean it doesn't work that way?)
15:10:07 <boily> `quote
15:10:07 <HackEgo> 826) <Jafet> The world needs better healthcare, social justice and wealth distribution, but a monads library for clojure surely won't hurt
15:10:21 <int-e> fizzie: but FWIW, I believe the stripping is entirely optional
15:10:30 <b_jonas> that birthday one is nice
15:10:44 <boily> fizzie++
15:10:49 <int-e> yes, almost makes me think of fizzie as a human again
15:11:01 <boily> fizzie isn't human?
15:11:12 <int-e> well, that strip nomic one...
15:11:14 <int-e> I lost faith.
15:11:59 <Jafet> `quote strip
15:12:00 <HackEgo> 506) <fizzie> Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though?
15:12:24 <int-e> `quote cube
15:12:24 <HackEgo> 8) <Madelon> Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? <Lil`Cube> not yet <Lil`Cube> trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence \ 889) <shachaf> FOUR SIMULTANEOUS TYPE SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE LAMBDA CUBE
15:12:54 <int-e> `quote canary
15:12:54 <HackEgo> No output.
15:13:29 <boily> `quote `quote
15:13:30 <HackEgo> 305) <cpressey> `quote django <HackEgo> ​352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something <cpressey> thankfully only one \ 306) <monqy> `quote django <HackEgo> ​352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) <cpressey> `quote django
15:13:50 <boily> the Everlasting Django Giraffe Quote Chain.
15:18:27 <int-e> `quote meta
15:18:27 <HackEgo> 307) <Sgeo> I was more of a pervert in Metaplace than Utherverse <Sgeo> I invented Metaplace sex >.> \ 357) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born. \ 358) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET \ 509) <ais523> o
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15:46:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50574&oldid=50537 * BeHuman * (+15) /* Non-alphabetic */
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16:11:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50576&oldid=50575 * BeHuman * (+75) /* Conditions */
16:15:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50577&oldid=50576 * BeHuman * (+226)
16:16:58 <FireFly> yabd
16:20:19 <int-e> it's not brainfuck if there are builtin conditionals...
16:20:42 <int-e> (and negated ones too...)
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16:26:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50579&oldid=50577 * BeHuman * (+36)
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16:45:19 <moonheart08> Unhandled exception at 0x668AC3A2 (ucrtbase.dll) in hexchat.exe: An invalid parameter was passed to a function that considers invalid parameters fatal.
16:45:22 <moonheart08> >_<
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19:11:01 <oerjan> . o O ( CERN's favicon makes it look like the tab is permanently frozen reloading )
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19:32:21 <zzo38> You may disable favicon maybe (I have all favicons disabled on my browser). Is it possible also to disable only for some sites?
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19:39:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Betaload]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50580 * Challenger5 * (+4483) Created page with "Betaload is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[user:Challenger5]]. It is a derivative of [[Underload]]. Betaload adds the concept of '''environments''': An env..."
19:41:06 <oerjan> zzo38: it's not an actual problem, it just looks weird.
19:42:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Betaload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50581&oldid=50580 * Challenger5 * (+200)
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20:19:47 <oerjan> CERN has a decelerator. fittingly, it uses antiprotons.
20:20:02 <APic> What about the TGV then?
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20:20:26 <oerjan> i don't think that uses antiprotons.
20:21:41 <shachaf> Good afternooerjan.
20:22:11 <oerjan> god shachaften.
20:22:23 <APic> Yo
20:22:31 <APic> oerjan: Why not?
20:22:41 <APic> Maybe an Anti-TGV does instead
20:22:48 <oerjan> APic: thausible.
20:23:10 <APic> *nod*
20:23:10 <oerjan> `thanks antimatter
20:23:11 <shachaf> `? thausible
20:23:15 <HackEgo> A thausible action is one committed toward a thausiblee.
20:23:15 <HackEgo> Thanks, antimatter. Thantimatter.
20:23:34 <shachaf> `cwlprits thausible
20:23:38 <HackEgo> oerjän oerjän
20:23:44 <shachaf> Have you ever noticed that "cwlprits" is an awfully long string?
20:23:55 <oerjan> `dowg thausible
20:23:57 <HackEgo> 8657:2016-06-29 <oerjän> learn A thausible action is one committed toward a thausiblee. \ 8656:2016-06-29 <oerjän> learn A thausible action is one commited toward a thausiblee.
20:23:58 <shachaf> "cwl" is so much clearer and less verbose, don't you think?
20:24:19 <oerjan> i refuse to believe i thought of that wisdom.
20:24:28 <oerjan> probably stole it from boily or something.
20:24:41 <shachaf> Hmm, we should've gotten Gregor to fix glogbot while he was alive.
20:24:47 <APic> ,o0(Draisine)
20:25:21 <shachaf> `dowg thausiblee
20:25:24 <HackEgo> 4399:2014-02-06 <boil̈y> echo \'A thausiblee is the recipient of a thausible action.\' >wisdom/thausiblee
20:25:31 <oerjan> aha.
20:25:41 <shachaf> took you long enough hth
20:26:12 <oerjan> 2 years, 4 months and 23 days.
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20:30:54 <izabera> the latest version of gnu parallel is called castro
20:31:51 <izabera> because the world needs some more politics
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20:37:34 <Lemon> Anyone online now?
20:37:46 <izabera> meow
20:38:01 <Lemon> Hi iz
20:38:08 <izabera> yo
20:39:01 <Lemon> Isn't coffee the greatest addiction ever?
20:39:33 <Lemon> - C.G.P. grey
20:39:33 <othermas> You have been derped
20:41:31 <shachaf> I would prefer for this bot to just go away.
20:42:17 <Lemon> :(
20:43:37 <Lemon> It echoes in here
20:48:31 <Lemon> I used to make esolangs but then I took an arrow to the knee
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20:52:43 <oerjan> @tell boily please see logs for thwacking requirements
20:52:43 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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21:08:17 <wob_jonas> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-room => so https://www.xkcd.com/356/ wasn't humane enough?
21:09:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50584&oldid=50583 * BeHuman * (+5) /* Code */
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21:09:36 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50586&oldid=50585 * BeHuman * (-2) /* Advanced Example */
21:09:50 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50587&oldid=50586 * BeHuman * (+2) /* Output */
21:10:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50588&oldid=50587 * BeHuman * (-1) /* CodeFuck */
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21:10:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[CodeFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50590&oldid=50589 * BeHuman * (-2) /* CodeFuck */
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21:22:06 <zzo38> An old computer game involving racing cars gives you four choices for your car and six choices for opponent's car; one of the choices for opponent's car is the "Physics Supercharged Lightbeam Special" which can go at the speed of light and probably is impossible to win
21:25:42 <zzo38> (The computer player also uses different rules; they can drive at a constant speed without damaging their car, while your own car must accelerate and decelerate and may crash at high speeds.)
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21:31:58 <Taneb> Completely irrelevant to everything fact: when I was little, I thought doctors were immortal
21:34:13 <izabera> OKAY
21:36:16 <Taneb> Because when you get sick, you might die, right? So you go to the doctor so you don't die
21:36:36 <Taneb> But doctors are ALWAYS with a doctor, namely themself, so hence never die from being sick
21:36:49 <izabera> what about car crashes
21:38:00 <Taneb> That's a good question
21:38:08 <Taneb> I'm not sure I was aware of car crashes back then
21:39:22 <wob_jonas> (re designing M:tG cards per LKoen's question) "<int-e> I might actually piece the elements together with a library like cairo then (which can generate bitmaps, SVG and also PDF)." => that wouldn't be ideal, because cairo only handles RGB or RGBA whereas M:tG card fronts are CYMK (or possible even more layers, I'm not sure)
21:41:26 <zzo38> What I thought is to make the program you can have as many layers (bitmaps and greymaps) as you want. This way you can easily do CMYK and so on
21:41:32 <wob_jonas> Taneb: sure, but (1) they could die in illnesses that restrict or remove their ability to practice as a doctor, (2) they can die to old age, which can't be cures even with the highest level of clerical spells, and (3) they can be turned to undead, and an undead can't resurrect itself even if it can cast a resurrection spell.
21:42:02 <Taneb> wob_jonas, when I was 6 I did not realise this
21:42:55 <wob_jonas> zzo38: a program where you can have different colorspaces, including CYMK? such as ImageMagick 7 (there are other such programs too)?
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21:44:32 <wob_jonas> Taneb: yeah, it's not so obvious. as a child, you see how hairdressers work and can imagine why they can't cut their own hair, but you don't see how doctors do difficult operations with anesthesia, so it's not clear why they can't do some of those on themselves, nor do you see people with certain illnesses that make it impossible for them to work.
21:46:16 <wob_jonas> zzo38: really, ImageMagick 7 is well done (despite that bug about rendering caps on lines I mentioned a few days ago), you should use it.
21:46:49 <wob_jonas> it has a nice command-line, a low-level API, and a high-level API
21:48:33 <zzo38> Yes, ImageMagick support many different kind of colorspaces, so the layers could be composed with it is one way
21:49:34 <wob_jonas> ImageMagick 7 does. ImageMagick 6 is more limited.
21:49:45 <zzo38> What is the bug about rendering caps on lines though?
21:49:55 <wob_jonas> but you can use ImageMagick to do the composition itself
21:50:04 <zzo38> Yes ImageMagick 6 is more limited, but still has CMYK
21:52:17 <wob_jonas> zzo38: hmm, maybe I didn't mention it on #esoteric, sorry
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21:53:19 <wob_jonas> the bug is that when I tried to use -draw "linewidth ... stroke-linecap round line ..." to draw a line, with a transparent stroke color, then a half-circle part that is the intersection of the line cap and the line body was double exposed
21:53:32 <wob_jonas> partly transparent stroke color that is
21:53:53 <zzo38> O, OK
21:56:29 <wob_jonas> anyway, I worked around this bug
21:56:43 <wob_jonas> and even before this, I used ImageMagick a lot, and it usually worked quite well
21:57:02 <wob_jonas> mostly I used it through the command line, but I used the high level C++ api a little as well
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21:57:19 <zzo38> Yes, I am sure it does as I have used it too
21:58:19 <zzo38> You can also use ff-composite to compose pictures together although it does not support more than three normal channels (there is also the alpha channel; different composite modes use this channel in different ways, and in some cases it is treated as a normal channel), but it is possible to just use multiple pictures in parallel if you need a huge number of channels (although this is possible with ImageMagick too)
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22:03:04 <zzo38> One of the modes I put in is the mode where the pixel used is either the source or destination pixel whichever one the alpha channel has a larger value. This can implement something like Z-buffering.
22:04:24 <wob_jonas> zzo38: as for compositing, what I'd like from a compositing program is where you don't give just one compositing mode, but a struct of two of them: the first is usually a duff-porter operator, which tells how to handle transparency, Over by default, the second is a mathematical compositing mode, which tells how to mix the color values for opaque pi
22:04:24 <wob_jonas> xels, Dest by default.
22:05:34 <wob_jonas> so eg you could choose any of (Over, Multiply), (Over, Screen), (In, Multiply), (In, Screen)
22:08:14 <zzo38> Actually I did something like that; I don't know if it is exactly what you mean or not though; bit7-bit9 of the composite mode number sets the values called X Y Z in this document http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-SVGCompositing-20090430/
22:08:40 <wob_jonas> I don't know what I mean exactly either, because I didn't tell the exact semantics
22:08:48 <zzo38> Is that similar to what you intended?
22:09:15 <moonmas> i forgot about my rainbow autoreplace
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22:10:23 <wob_jonas> zzo38: wait, let me look
22:11:45 <zzo38> This only applies to composite mode numbers 64 and higher; lower numbered modes treat the alpha channel differently.
22:13:48 <wob_jonas> zzo38: yes, that description of how the composition formulas are built from (X,Y,Z,f) is what I mean, though svg doesn't actually seem to provide the combination modes.
22:14:22 <zzo38> SVG doesn't provide, but my own program does.
22:16:02 <wob_jonas> zzo38: I'm looking at the source code of http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/artifact/17f30248cb205ac5 now (there's no docs, right?)
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22:16:51 <zzo38> That is correct there are currently no documentation.
22:17:12 <zzo38> (If you want, you can contribute some, whether examples, wiki documentation, man pages, etc)
22:18:16 <zzo38> Look at the "default" case; that is the case that does these things I described. The other cases don't do that since they do something other than using transparency normally
22:19:32 <zzo38> The lack of documentation is one of the disadvantages of these programs, although in time hopefully that and other things can be improved and fixed.
22:20:27 <wob_jonas> Do you have a mode that copies the luminosity value of Dst to the alpha channel of the Src, but keeps the color value of Src? That would be useful sometimes, because in most compositions and other transformations, the color of the input can't affect the alpha of the output.
22:21:12 <wob_jonas> I think there's some not too complicated way to do that with ImageMagick though
22:21:24 <zzo38> I don't think so, but I hope I can add that!
22:21:57 <wob_jonas> Or perhaps another method that multiplies the alpha of Src with the luminosity of Dst to get the alpha of the result
22:22:05 <wob_jonas> that might make more sense
22:22:31 <wob_jonas> more sense than overwriting it
22:22:57 <zzo38> Yes, probably it does.
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