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01:27:54 <moonythedwarf> ded internet 2001
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01:47:08 <oerjan> @tell FireFly <FireFly> the part I'm wondering is if legally living in Svalbard counts toward getting a permit for living in Norway <-- alas, it does not. http://www.sysselmannen.no/Tilreisende/Innreise-og-opphold/ and http://svalbardposten.no/nyheter/svalbardmeldingen-vil-ha-flere-nordmenn-pa-svalbard/19.7146 make this clear. (the actual law text was confusing though, but i think there it's excluded by
01:47:08 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:47:14 <oerjan> the use of the term "Riket" which doesn't include Svalbard.)
01:47:16 <oerjan> dammit
01:47:41 <oerjan> @tell FireFly the use of the term "Riket" which doesn't include Svalbard.)
01:47:41 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:49:31 <oerjan> @tell FireFly as a small consolation, it _can_ count towards getting a mainland permanent living permit, but they're considering making that stricter.
01:49:32 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:50:38 <shachaf> figures
01:50:45 <shachaf> should've checked sysselmannen.yes
01:51:04 <oerjan> well it _is_ in norwegian.
01:52:12 * Zarutian likes the yes.is.no domain and also the.answer.is.no
01:53:50 <oerjan> @tell FireFly hm i'm wrong about the "riket" thing. i guess there's just a special rule somewhere, then.
01:53:50 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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01:55:14 <oerjan> shachaf: for an american, it might be easier to get to the mainland than svalbard anyhow - the job market is not easy there
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01:56:50 <shachaf> which american are you talking about here
01:56:56 <shachaf> what about for a finn twh
01:57:18 <oerjan> it's also easier for a finn.
01:58:19 <Jafet> the job market seems rather small, at any rate
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02:04:39 <oerjan> *+s
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02:09:26 <shachaf> oerjan: have you considered learning mtg instead twh
02:09:47 <shachaf> it's p. good, better than i expected
02:09:55 <oerjan> no hth
02:10:05 <shachaf> also have you considered learning c++ instead twh
02:10:24 <shachaf> it's p. good, better than i expected
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02:11:46 <oerjan> not really hth
02:14:28 <shachaf> the world's most popular esolang and you're not interested
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02:16:59 <oerjan> the world has poor taste hth
02:18:47 <Jafet> I wonder if the c++-mode can actually parse all of C++ these days
02:19:31 <Jafet> it seemed to get confused by nested template instantiations
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02:35:00 <pecan> I'm going with no. =P
02:35:05 <pecan> http://stackoverflow.com/a/14589567/470535 ← good luck parsing that.
02:35:15 <shachaf> `tervetuloa pecan
02:35:16 <HackEgo> pecan: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: <http://esolangs.org/>. (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric joko EFnet- tai Dalnet-verkossa.)
02:35:25 <shachaf> not clicking your referral link, though tdnh
02:35:25 <pecan> Kiitos, shachaf.
02:36:23 <pecan> referral link?OO
02:38:59 <shachaf> Yes, you get StackOverflow points for people clicking that thing.
02:39:14 <shachaf> http://stackoverflow.com/a/14589567 would be the non-referral vrsion.
02:40:21 <shachaf> It also gives away your user.
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04:15:49 <pecan> Oh, thanks. My bad.
04:16:07 <pecan> that's a bit annoying of them.
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09:00:41 <b_jonas> oh look, an olist
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09:31:56 <FireFly> oerjan: oh okay
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11:43:30 <boily> `wisdom
11:43:46 <HackEgo> ​`revert//`revert is a bit buggy. The canary.orig error message is annoying but seemingly harmless. However, reverting a newly created file tends not to work - use `rm instead.
11:46:29 <int-e> `? wisdom
11:46:31 <HackEgo> wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? it started with, like, an ø?
11:46:55 <int-e> fungot: can you?
11:46:55 <fungot> int-e: i can probably find the most basic form, only f(x-1) would be horribly slow
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12:20:30 <izabera> https://github.com/antonmks/Alenka
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17:13:24 <\oren\_> realizing i made some horrible decisions in software design 4 months ago
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17:41:31 <FreeFull> \oren\_: What did you do?
17:51:02 <\oren\_> should have used an array, not a bitfield
17:51:09 <\oren\_> because now there are going to be 80 possiblities
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18:01:15 <FreeFull> Doesn't sound like it'd be that hard of a change?
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18:03:58 <hppavilion[1]> @metar PAMR
18:03:58 <lambdabot> PAMR 181753Z 00000KT 4SM -SN BR SCT002 M24/M27 A2927 RMK AO2 SLP916 P0000 60000 T12441267 11206 21256 56005 $
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19:44:21 <fizzie> shachaf: It is quite scow. Bazel supports android_binary and android_library rules, but the android_test and android_robolectric_test have not been sourced open. So you can write code, but you can't test it.
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19:56:03 <shachaf> fizzie: just use android_binary for your tests hth
19:57:31 <\oren\_> I am currently stuck waiting four hours for tests to complete before check in
19:58:15 <\oren\_> hopefully will be finished by 7 PM
19:59:04 <shachaf> you should get a data center to run your tests in hth
19:59:15 <\oren\_> shachaf: i AM
19:59:31 <\oren\_> i'm certainly not running them on this macbook
19:59:40 <shachaf> You're parallelizing them across many machines?
19:59:51 <\oren\_> shachaf: no
20:00:15 <shachaf> Your company should seriously consider the significant human cost of having employees waiting that long for tests to finish all the time.
20:00:18 <\oren\_> but the computer is somewhere in america i think
20:00:26 <shachaf> Assuming this is at work, which I guess I assumed.
20:00:30 <\oren\_> yes
20:01:03 <\oren\_> well, i dunno, they don't seem to have considered the cost/benefit of using macbook pros as thin clients
20:02:06 <\oren\_> I could just as well use a dell inspiron for this
20:03:36 <\oren\_> what sort of workstations do other companies use
20:07:58 <\oren\_> oh wait you both work for google. they probably don't even blink at giving every coder a alienware glowy box made of solid gold
20:09:36 <\oren\_> or mayble that's just reputation
20:10:00 <olsner> what I heard is not quite as ridiculous, merely top-of-the-line HP workstations with dual reasonable CPUs
20:11:19 <shachaf> I don't, but I did in the past.
20:12:19 <shachaf> Anyway, the computers people get are mostly irrelevant for running tests, because that all happens in some data center somewhere.
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20:14:13 <olsner> I've heard great things about google's compile cluster.. must be how they can bear working on chromium :)
20:14:27 <\oren\_> shachaf: that's my point. why am I using a expensive macbook to just run vlc and ssh?
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20:15:11 <\oren\_> i guess it's some sort of misguided perk?
20:15:33 <shachaf> Lots of web browser windows?
20:16:12 <\oren\_> I guess, sometimes. most documentation is in the repository anyway
20:16:34 <\oren\_> so I read it with midnight commander
20:17:14 <olsner> do you have some kind of thing where you're not allowed to have any code on the laptops themselves?
20:17:28 <olsner> thing aka rule
20:17:31 <shachaf> Google has that.
20:17:35 <\oren\_> oh, some people do that. not many in my office though
20:18:04 <\oren\_> it's far easier to set stuff up on the linux
20:18:44 <\oren\_> instead of having to $ brew X Y Z a bunch
20:19:01 <shachaf> What build system do y'all use to build things?
20:19:26 <\oren\_> makefiles and some propietary stuff based on the CTO's pet language
20:20:03 <\oren\_> which is public domain, it's called "Salmon"
20:20:15 <\oren\_> er, not CTO... I forget his title
20:20:23 <shachaf> "Imperitive Language , Object-Oriented, Functional Programming, strongly typed..."
20:21:32 <\oren\_> Cheif architect
20:22:19 <shachaf> Makefiles are scow.
20:22:22 <\oren\_> it works well enough to be a viable language if C++ didn't already exits
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20:24:32 <olsner> `quote scow
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20:24:45 <HackEgo> 1249) <olsner> I've heard that scow is oerjanspeak for something
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20:26:17 <\oren\_> `quote scow
20:26:17 <HackEgo> 1249) <olsner> I've heard that scow is oerjanspeak for something
20:26:31 <\oren\_> `quote c++
20:26:31 <HackEgo> 1) <Slereah> EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) <Quas_NaArt> Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... <Quas_NaArt> More practice is in order. \ 3) <AnMaster> that's where I got it <AnMaster> rocket launch facility gift shop \ 5) <Quas_NaArt> His body sho
20:26:53 <\oren\_> `quote c\+\+
20:26:54 <HackEgo> 116) (in #irp) <Sgeo> Flonk, ask on #esoteric? <Flonk> Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ 704) <oklofok> you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? <oklofok> isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF SNAKES \ 1148
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20:27:33 <\oren\_> `5 quote c\+\+
20:27:37 <HackEgo> 1/2154:1) <Slereah> EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 2) <Quas_NaArt> Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... <Quas_NaArt> More practice is in order. \ 3) <AnMaster> that's where I got it <AnMaster> rocket launch facility gift shop \ 5) <Quas_NaArt
20:27:40 <\oren\_> `spam
20:27:41 <HackEgo> 2/2154:> His body should be given to science. <GKennethR> He's alive :P <GreenReaper> Even so. \ 7) <SimonRC> TODO: sex life \ 8) <Madelon> Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? <Lil`Cube> not yet <Lil`Cube> trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence \ 9) <reddit user "othermatt"> So what you're saying is t
20:27:51 <\oren\_> wut
20:28:12 <\oren\_> so `5 un \d my + ???
20:28:29 <\oren\_> `5 quote c\\+\\+
20:28:31 <HackEgo> 1/10:116) (in #irp) <Sgeo> Flonk, ask on #esoteric? <Flonk> Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ 704) <oklofok> you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? <oklofok> isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF
20:28:36 <\oren\_> `spam
20:28:37 <HackEgo> 2/10: SNAKES \ 1148) <mauke> C++ is a superset of a subset of C \ 1163) <zzo38> C and C++ have some bad features compared to BLISS. <zzo38> Although C does have some good features too. Unfortunately I cannot find a BLISS compiler. \ 1185) <kmc> i came back here and misread my own statement as "fancy C++ mushrooms" \ 116) (in #irp) <Sgeo>
20:28:43 <\oren\_> `spam
20:28:43 <HackEgo> 3/10:Flonk, ask on #esoteric? <Flonk> Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ 704) <oklofok> you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? <oklofok> isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF SNAKES \ 1148) <mauke
20:28:46 <\oren\_> `spam
20:28:47 <HackEgo> 4/10:> C++ is a superset of a subset of C \ 1163) <zzo38> C and C++ have some bad features compared to BLISS. <zzo38> Although C does have some good features too. Unfortunately I cannot find a BLISS compiler. \ 1185) <kmc> i came back here and misread my own statement as "fancy C++ mushrooms" \ 116) (in #irp) <Sgeo> Flonk, ask on #esoteri
20:29:05 <\oren\_> `spam
20:29:06 <HackEgo> 5/10:c? <Flonk> Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ 704) <oklofok> you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? <oklofok> isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF SNAKES \ 1148) <mauke> C++ is a superset of
20:29:11 <\oren\_> oh
20:29:29 * \oren\_ forgot what `5 did
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20:48:50 <olsner> polterchrist in that quote is short for "host" btw
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20:56:52 <\oren\_> `perl print "12,45" + 1
20:56:53 <HackEgo> Can't open perl script "print "12,45" + 1": No such file or directory
20:57:04 <\oren\_> `` perl -e 'print "12,45" + 1;'
20:57:06 <HackEgo> 13
20:57:49 <\oren\_> `` perl -e 'print "AAA" == 0;'
20:57:51 <HackEgo> 1
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21:10:52 <\oren\_> good old perl scalars
21:11:54 <\oren\_> wait where did this _
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23:06:32 <boily> `wisdom
23:06:46 <HackEgo> nortti//nortti is a very nortti boy. He yielded to shikhin's promises, and now is his High Priest.
23:10:59 <shachaf> I saw nortti's name in some tensorflow BUILD files the other day.
23:11:07 <shachaf> Turned out they were disabling RTTI.
23:11:16 <olsner> :D
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23:15:45 <boily> hellochaf, hellosner, mhelloony.
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23:38:38 <moonheart08> my internet is terrifyingly bad
23:38:59 <shikhin> Hoily.
23:39:26 <moonheart08> centurylink (aka centuryshit that doesnt give us what we pay for and is our only provider option) why )
23:39:30 <moonheart08> :
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23:50:23 <oerjan> `? `revert
23:50:28 <HackEgo> ​`revert is a bit buggy. The canary.orig error message is annoying but seemingly harmless. However, reverting a newly created file tends not to work - use `rm instead.
23:50:40 <shachaf> time to revert that wisdom
23:50:43 <oerjan> `learn `revert now works fine. Yay fizzie!
23:50:48 <HackEgo> Relearned '`revert': `revert now works fine. Yay fizzie!
23:50:54 <shachaf> `? fizzie
23:50:55 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg
23:51:05 <shachaf> fizzie is sneaky?
23:51:07 <shachaf> @where sneaky
23:51:07 <lambdabot> dropFromEnd n xs = zipWith const xs (drop n xs)
23:51:15 <shachaf> is fizzie the author of that
23:51:31 <oerjan> i doubt it, but who knows who was
23:51:39 <oerjan> it's a pretty old trick i think
23:51:42 <shachaf> @where sneaky2
23:51:42 <lambdabot> lazyReverse xs = go xs (reverse xs) where go (_:xs) ~(y:ys) = y : go xs ys; go [] ~[] = []
23:51:50 <oerjan> `dowt fizzie
23:52:06 <HackEgo> 0:2012-02-16 Initïal import. \ 3083:2013-06-11 <ellioẗt> learn fizzie is the creator of Minecraft. \ 4032:2013-11-20 <fizzïe> learn fizzie is not fnord with a monad. \ 4246:2013-12-30 <oerjän> learn fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131230-coin.jpg \ 4249:201
23:53:03 <oerjan> `dowg fizzie
23:53:09 <HackEgo> 8869:2016-07-28 <shachäf> slwd fizzie//s#http.*#https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg# \ 8168:2016-05-25 <shachäf> ` sed -i \'s/k/sneaky k/\' wisdom/fizzie \ 4999:2014-10-02 <oerjän> revert 4969 \ 4984:2014-09-30 <mroman̈_> learn_append fizzie Fizzie is a bot controlled by fungot. \ 4249:2013-12-30 <oerjän> learn fizzie i
23:53:22 <oerjan> shachaf: hah, thought it was you
23:53:26 <shachaf> I thought it was me too.
23:53:31 <shachaf> But I don't remember the reason.
23:55:36 <oerjan> . o O ( did that `revert wisdom get displayed between being added and the fix being in... )
23:56:55 <fizzie> I don't think I'm sneaky.
23:57:09 <shachaf> Why does ?fizzie have one URL when I apparently updated it to another URL?
23:57:11 <oerjan> well that's just the kind of thing a sneaky person would say.
23:57:40 <shachaf> It's also the sort of thing a non-sneaky person would say.
23:57:55 <shachaf> Saying things that convey no information? Very sneaky.
23:58:15 <oerjan> shachaf: it doesn't, you're just misreading
23:58:44 <shachaf> `? fizzie
23:58:46 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg
23:58:53 <shachaf> so i am tdh
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