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00:00:18 <oerjan> you seem to use = in both the two last ones
00:00:27 <wob_jonas> oh hmm
00:00:33 <wob_jonas> darn, you're right
00:00:58 <wob_jonas> I'll have to think more then
00:01:07 <wob_jonas> I know I haven't excluded all possibilities
00:01:28 <wob_jonas> there's a lot that are impossible, but I couldn't restrict the search space enough
00:02:36 <oerjan> also the second one has digits, but i assume you have some other way of geting numbers in the third
00:02:55 <wob_jonas> I can just put dummy strings in the indexes I can't access
00:03:08 <wob_jonas> but I also have some operators free so I might be able to generate other numbers
00:03:18 <wob_jonas> like the % and & operators
00:03:23 <wob_jonas> the equals sign is a bigger problem
00:03:29 <wob_jonas> I'll have to think of how to modify the construction
00:03:39 <wob_jonas> and make just a triple if I can't figure it out
00:06:08 <wob_jonas> I know I can't use printf because it's not usable without the letter s, and the letters rins together are too precious. I could use a for loop in the third quine, but I'm not sure if that's enough to make a quine with such restricted quoting options
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00:18:32 <wob_jonas> as an alternative, I was thinking of how sub, warn, die are three disjoint keywords, but that seems to make everything more difficult than if you use eval
00:19:54 <wob_jonas> the indirect method call or indirect function call needs either dollar sign or braces, and also needs round parenthesis
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00:42:29 <oerjan> `? vst
00:42:30 <HackEso> VST is a Visual Studio Tomorrow, an unofficial evil clone of VS made tomorrow and quantum-tunnelled back in time
00:42:39 <oerjan> `slwd vst//s,$,.,
00:42:41 <HackEso> vst//VST is a Visual Studio Tomorrow, an unofficial evil clone of VS made tomorrow and quantum-tunnelled back in time.
00:43:06 <oerjan> `slwd vst//s,a ,,
00:43:08 <HackEso> vst//VST is Visual Studio Tomorrow, an unofficial evil clone of VS made tomorrow and quantum-tunnelled back in time.
00:44:54 <shachaf> `5 w
00:44:57 <HackEso> 1/2:tht//THT is short for tails-heads-tails, a possible outcome of flipping three coins. It's the opposite of HTH. \ brilliant//B҉ͭR̲̞Iͪ͞L̡͠L̝̊I̤ͣA̍҉N̏́T̈͡ ̐̇ȉ̲s̉̐ ̸̉ḷ̂i̪̱k͉ͬḛ็ ͓̪t็ͬh̺̊e͜͢ ͏͛B̈ͅE̳̘S̰ͤTͬͧ ̰̕w̺̼o̷̓ŕ͂d̹̠ ͍͑i͚̾n̺̮ ̇͑t͗̍hͧ͌ḙ͕ ̻͜ű̖ňͤi̴͠v̸̧ḛ͔ř̭s͍͠ẻ̗ ͏̲a̮̺nͣ͟d̝ͨ ̳͗i̟͘ẗ͎ ̼̲ẘ̦i̭ͮl̢̋
00:44:59 <alercah> in 24
00:45:32 <shachaf> `n
00:45:33 <HackEso> 2/2:l̨̉ ̺͌c̑͡h̽̀âͮn̩̈́g̫ͣe͉͒ ͦ̓y̙͕o̔͒u̷ͬr͂͐ ̓͝l͙͐ȉ͕f̹́ẹ̲ ̤̹F̌ͅÒ͗R͚̼Ẽ̠V͏ͬE͂͝R̵̜!̱͌ \ we//We are the champions. \ pokemon red//Pokemon Red is a low-level handheld programming language disguised as a game, allowing you to execute arbitrary code from anywhere. \ heck//Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh, or are darned for some other reason.
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00:57:03 <wob_jonas> I got it! The third quine could be like print/3/?"somestring":/4/?"otherstring".../9/?"string":"laststring"for"3",4,8,4,3,8,3,9
01:00:02 <wob_jonas> that uses so few interesting characters
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01:04:35 <oerjan> heh
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02:55:25 <izabera> ioooc published the winners
02:57:22 <shachaf> `? ioooc
02:57:24 <HackEso> ioooc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
02:58:52 <shachaf> international object oriented obfuscation contest
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04:08:38 <izabera> i meant the other one <.<
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05:26:39 <zzo38> Farbfeld Utilities now includes a program to read ZZT world files and save game files. I have compared its output with that from running ZZT in DOSBOX, and it seems to match exactly.
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11:18:04 <wob_jonas> `ioccclist The source code for the winners of the 25th IOCCC has been released. http://www.ioccc.org/years.html#2018
11:18:05 <HackEso> ioccclist The source code for the winners of the 25th IOCCC has been released. http://www.ioccc.org/years.html#2018: b_jonas
11:18:19 <wob_jonas> I'm the only one subscribed to that? interesting
11:18:38 <wob_jonas> oh well, other people might be loggrepping, so it's still worth to trigger
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13:35:40 <wob_jonas> Wow. the 2018/mills winner of IOCCC is really scary
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15:22:37 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
15:22:38 <lambdabot> EGLL 071450Z AUTO VRB02KT 9999 NCD 27/08 Q1015
15:22:46 <fizzie> That's just ridiculous.
15:28:04 <int-e> @metar lowi
15:28:04 <lambdabot> LOWI 071520Z 08007KT 030V120 9999 SCT080 SCT120 BKN300 23/06 Q1013 NOSIG
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16:27:32 <tswett> So I've been trying to come up with a peculiarly bad set of 4 coin denominations.
16:27:44 <tswett> Here's a pretty reasonable set of coin denominations: 1, 5, 10, 25.
16:28:40 <tswett> You can represent any amount pretty easily with those denominations.
16:28:46 <tswett> Here's a much worse set: 4, 5, 6, 7.
16:30:42 <tswett> But that set is at least capable of representing any amount from 4 up, so it's not quite so peculiarly bad.
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16:31:12 <tswett> 4, 6, 8, 9 is pretty bad.
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16:42:38 <arseniiv> (what does @metar command mean?)
16:43:12 <\oren\> arseniiv: gives the wether reprot for an airport in the metar format
16:43:26 <\oren\> @metar CYYZ
16:43:27 <lambdabot> CYYZ 071600Z 14009G15KT 15SM FEW040 14/00 A3021 RMK CF1 CF TR SLP233
16:43:57 <\oren\> CYYZ is toronto
16:45:05 <arseniiv> \oren\: TY!
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16:56:24 <tswett> @metar KAZO
16:56:24 <lambdabot> KAZO 071653Z 34008KT 10SM CLR 20/06 A3022 RMK AO2 SLP234 T02000056
16:56:54 <tswett> Gee, I miss my IRC log generating bots.
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18:02:17 <shachaf> `olist 1120
18:02:18 <HackEso> olist 1120: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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20:14:36 <wob_jonas> `? metar
20:14:37 <HackEso> metar is a service Taneb invented that allows nerds to talk about the weather.
20:14:55 <wob_jonas> see, the wisdom database has an explanation for everything
20:15:16 <Taneb> I should really configure my client so that HackEso doesn't ping me
20:15:34 <wob_jonas> mind you, it's mostly for aviation nerds, not for esoteric programming nerds, but still
20:16:01 <Taneb> Can someone in 30 seconds or so get HackEso to say my name again
20:16:11 <wob_jonas> sure
20:16:45 <wob_jonas> `? grace period
20:16:46 <HackEso> The grace period was invented by Taneb to give him more time to invent the Oxford comma.
20:17:15 <Taneb> Yay, I didn't get an alert
20:20:56 <shachaf> Taneb: are you suggesting the Tanebvention joke might be getting slightly old
20:21:07 <Taneb> shachaf, not at all
20:21:14 <Taneb> I would never suggest that it's getting slightly old
20:21:39 <shachaf> How did it all start?
20:21:47 <shachaf> Was it D-modules?
20:22:34 <shachaf> Hmm, D-modules might be relevant to my current interests
20:24:14 <Taneb> D-modules, weetoflakes, and automatic squirrel feeders
20:24:17 <arseniiv> see, the wisdom database has an explanation for everything> :D
20:24:53 <shachaf> `5 w
20:24:56 <HackEso> 1/2:tht//THT is short for tails-heads-tails, a possible outcome of flipping three coins. It's the opposite of HTH. \ ub//ub is a saner hub. \ fisherman's friend//Fisherman's Friend is the friend of the palate that is more sore than discerning. \ zygohistomorphic prepromorphism//A zygohistomorphic prepromorphism is used when you really need both semi-mutual recursion and history and to repeatedly apply a natural transformation as you get deeper into
20:25:05 <shachaf> `n
20:25:06 <HackEso> 2/2: the functor. \ tdnh//tdnh does not help
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20:30:43 <arseniiv> zygohistomorphic prepromorphism> it follows me :o
20:31:00 <wob_jonas> arseniiv: huh what?
20:31:03 <arseniiv> or it’s a memory error
20:31:16 <arseniiv> zygohistomorphic prepromorphism seem to follow me
20:31:27 <arseniiv> I seem to have been seen it lately
20:31:37 <arseniiv> maybe two days ago
20:31:55 <arseniiv> I was reading on general recursion schemes
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20:32:10 <wob_jonas> you have probably seen it on https://wiki.haskell.org/Zygohistomorphic_prepromorphisms , which is where the meme originates
20:32:31 <arseniiv> you should be right
20:33:46 <wob_jonas> the meme got so famous that people even asked questions https://stackoverflow.com/q/5057136/ and https://www.quora.com/What-are-Zygohistomorphic-prepromorphisms-and-how-are-they-used
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21:42:56 <arseniiv> wob_jonas: thanks, an interesting read!
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22:27:12 <shachaf> `? ppcg
22:27:13 <HackEso> PPCG is pretty portable code generation. Unfortunately, it's prone to overflowing the stack.
22:27:18 <shachaf> `? pcg
22:27:19 <HackEso> pcg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:27:46 <arseniiv> `? CGI
22:27:47 <HackEso> CGI stands for uh... C, goblin, interface?
22:27:55 <shachaf> `cwlprits cgi
22:27:57 <HackEso> oren̈
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22:36:58 <boily> speaking of C, the IOCCC are in!
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22:37:43 <boily> helloochaf, arselloniiv.
22:44:48 <user24> Given two strings, what would be interesting ways to mix them?
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23:15:50 <shachaf> user24: In how many dimensions?
23:16:22 <user24> shachaf: just two linear strings
23:17:08 <user24> I'm building an agent simulation (they think in brainfuck)
23:17:11 <user24> https://github.com/void4/bfagent/blob/master/anim.gif
23:25:10 <user24> when they decide to reproduce, I want to recombinate their code strings
23:27:26 <shachaf> user24: maybe take more direct inspiration from dna hth
23:27:52 <shachaf> I'd be interested in a language with the property that making small changes to code can result in interesting changes in the program (rather than a syntax error or something).
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23:46:54 <arseniiv> boheyily
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23:50:45 <arseniiv> shachaf: In idea section on the wiki, I saw an idea to pick a point in some space, and it will be the code, and what it does is decided by dynamics of that point in that space. The space would be fixed once and for all, and it should be sufficiently complex, e. g. some periodical force field
23:52:52 <arseniiv> with this, variating the point slightly should variate runtime behaviour. Depending on how to interpret the point’s evolution, it could be possible any program is valid. Or at least it would be a runtime-error, not a static one :D
23:54:47 <arseniiv> for me, I was fascinated by an idea of using knots or braids, but I can’t make any interesting use of that idea yet (unless it’s a simple C-like language with only knots/braids for a datatype. But it seems boring?)
23:55:21 <arseniiv> s/C-like/imperative
23:56:02 <oerjan> *vary
23:57:41 <shachaf> I don't know anything about genetics but I have a suspicion that among all the easy-to-specify properties of modern (e.g. human) genomes, like what they actually do, is this sort of malleability where small mutations can have meaningful effects rather than causing errors.
23:58:01 <shachaf> This is as much a property of the program as it is a property of the language (if you can even distinguish between those).
23:58:15 <shachaf> I'd be interested in esolangs and programs that have these kinds of properties.
23:58:43 <arseniiv> *vary> varying the point…, oh, thx
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