00:02:10 <arseniiv> shachaf: if for the string-based ones, I dunno… maybe no instruction should be too powerful there, so its deletion/insertion not be too big an issue. And maybe largely less focus on matching constructions, something less global and more localized…
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00:03:31 <arseniiv> since I start rhyming incidentally, I ought to go take some sleep
00:06:15 <oerjan> there are certainly small mutations that are absolutely lethal, so it's more that it's *possible* for mutations to improve matters.
00:07:13 <shachaf> The point is more the kind of impact that mutations can have.
00:07:44 <oerjan> you'd think genetic programming would use such languages, if they exist.
00:07:50 <shachaf> Part of it is also that animals etc. are built very differently from most computer programs or machines.
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00:24:09 <oerjan> also i was right about who was in that ship in girl genius. too bad i didn't say it in public.
00:26:52 <oerjan> `addquote <shachaf> Taneb: are you suggesting the Tanebvention joke might be getting slightly old <Taneb> shachaf, not at all <Taneb> I would never suggest that it's getting slightly old
00:26:54 <HackEso> 1323) <shachaf> Taneb: are you suggesting the Tanebvention joke might be getting slightly old <Taneb> shachaf, not at all <Taneb> I would never suggest that it's getting slightly old
00:27:41 <oerjan> i thought that was the right spacing
00:27:47 <HackEso> quoteformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two.
00:31:56 <oerjan> that doesn't look like the right spot
00:32:10 <HackEso> oerjän shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf boil̈y oerjän oerjän shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf oerjän shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf oerjän boil̈y oerjän shachäf oerjän oerjän shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf oerjän Jafët shachäf oerjän oerjän shachäf shachäf shachäf oerjän shachäf oerjän shachäf shachäf shachäf shachäf
00:32:39 <HackEso> hoag "$@" | awk '{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}' | xargs
00:32:54 <shachaf> `` cwlprits oerjan | tr ' ' '\n' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
00:32:54 <HackEso> hlnp --removed --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@"
00:32:56 <HackEso> 118 shachäf \ 53 oerjän \ 11 boil̈y \ 5 noloveinwaikik̈i \ 2 Jafët \ 1 nitïa \ 1 int-̈e \ 1 hppavilion[1̈]
00:33:08 <shachaf> maybe i should ease up on it
00:34:13 <HackEso> scowrevs="$(/usr/bin/paste -sd'|' /hackenv/share/scowrevs)"; hg log -r "tip:0 & ! ($scowrevs)" "$@" | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[<Itb][^ ]*\)\([^ ][^ ]\)/\1̈\3/'
00:35:27 <oerjan> `` echo <oren> | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[<Itb][^ ]*\)\([^ ][^ ]\)/\1̈\3/'
00:35:28 <HackEso> /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `|' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: `echo <oren> | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[<Itb][^ ]*\)\([^ ][^ ]\)/\1̈\3/''
00:36:06 <oerjan> `` echo '<oren>' | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[<Itb][^ ]*\)\([^ ][^ ]\)/\1̈\3/'
00:36:34 <oerjan> hm that's correct, there must be a space in the culprit
00:36:52 <HackEso> <\oren̈\> le/rn cgi/CGI stands for uh... C, goblin, interface?
00:37:27 <oerjan> it's stripping backslashes
00:37:54 <oerjan> `` echo '<\oren\>' | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[<Itb][^ ]*\)\([^ ][^ ]\)/\1̈\3/'
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00:40:04 <oerjan> hm someone used a better command the other day...
00:41:00 <oerjan> `` echo '\oren̈\' | xargs
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00:44:04 <shachaf> make a better program and put it in bin/ twh
00:53:01 <HackEso> hoag "$@" | awk '{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}' | xargs
00:54:06 <oerjan> `sled bin/culprits//s,$, -d '\n',
00:54:08 <HackEso> bin/culprits//hoag "$@" | awk '{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}' | xargs -d ' \ '
00:54:37 <oerjan> `sled bin/culprits//s,$, -d'\\n',
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00:54:52 <shachaf> Are you sure the first version wouldn't have worked?
00:55:39 <shachaf> I guess it's confusing regardless.
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08:14:29 <wob_jonas> boily: yes, I even rang the `ioccclist after izabera mentioned that they're in
08:14:44 <wob_jonas> but apparently only I'm subscribed to it so far
08:15:20 <wob_jonas> the mills entry is quite impressive, even though half of the impressive part isn't actually written in C
08:19:22 <wob_jonas> arseniiv: you've seen https://esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome , an esolang where an unlabeled undirected graph is the only data structure you have
08:19:36 <wob_jonas> I'm mentioning that because of the knots thing
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12:23:03 <arseniiv> wob_jonas: yeah I’ve seen Eodermdrome
12:24:52 <arseniiv> but knots are essentially “uniform”, you could draw them differently and it will be good if these differences wouldn’t change a thing in language semantics
12:29:38 <arseniiv> but maybe knot diagrams are a way to go, though! There could be an action when a part of the diagram changes and the runtime could be trying to simplify it in between
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14:31:59 <arseniiv> trying to use new GIMP 2.10 https://s31.postimg.cc/kudn19cmz/theeye.png
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20:03:44 <HackEso> smlist 460: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy Cale
20:14:31 <HackEso> Non-update notification for the webcomic Super Mega.
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20:17:49 <HackEso> olist is update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html
20:18:49 <HackEso> list is a fun program that HackEgo has! Run it with `list and join the fun!
20:19:23 <Cale> I haven't yet read that webcomic, but I've had a couple people recommend it to me before
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20:29:44 <int-e> Oh I can see how I was once lured into OOTS... it used a larger font size in the beginning :P
20:32:17 <int-e> (But later strips, well, let's just say that I prefer to read novels in the ordinary rectangular page format, not from speech bubbles, thank you very much.)
20:33:12 <int-e> That, and I guess I'm just not into D&D at all.
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20:59:39 <rdococ> I'm looking into delimited continuations.
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22:16:35 <HackEso> pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion b_jonas
22:17:04 <quintopia> does that even ping you when you're wob_jonas
22:24:49 <int-e> . o O ( but I'm not )
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22:29:25 <wob_jonas> quintopia: since wob_jonas is not logged in most of the time, and I just read or grep the logs, it doesn't matter
22:30:11 <wob_jonas> but I've also just noticed the new pbf, and was about to list it but then saw that it's already listed
22:30:42 <wob_jonas> you should put an url the pbflist command though, to make it clear which strip is listed. this time it's http://pbfcomics.com/comics/news-puppy/
22:35:25 <wob_jonas> int-e: yes, the font size is smaller. basically the free strips on the web are limited resolution, which is one of the ways how the Giant encourages people to buy the payed comic, whether in printed or digital form, since it has better image resolution.
22:35:45 <wob_jonas> (the digital one is actually mostly vector images)
22:37:09 <HackEso> o is a popular comedy adventure fantasy webcomic. It's about a group of adventurers, heroes or warriors (whatever you want to call them) called the Order of the Stick, as they go about their adventures with minimal competence or knowledge of what they are doing, and eventually sort of stumble into a plan by an undead sorcerer to conquer the world, essentially, and they're out to stop him and conquer their personal problems at the same time. Hopefully not i
22:37:27 <shachaf> Is the joke of o that it's really long?
22:38:00 <wob_jonas> shachaf: there's no joke, I just copied some of the description from that interview with Giant
22:38:24 <wob_jonas> well, if there's a joke then it's that the entry is named "o" because the list is named "olist", rather than the more logical "oots" and "ootslist" resp
22:38:31 <HackEso> /srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: 2`: not found
22:38:44 <shachaf> oerjan: what's that thing called twh
22:38:49 <HackEso> 2/2:ot in that order, so they get their personal problems taken care of before the final battle. And it's a comedy.
22:42:04 <wob_jonas> also, the entry doesn't clearly tell the name of the webcomic, or its url, so it's not very useful for someone who hasn't already heard of the comic
22:42:22 <wob_jonas> so it's a wisdom entry that's true but useless, as typical
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