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06:48:54 <zzo38> Maybe in that game if you use a breath attack and bite together, since your mouth is not open enough so it will cause less damage than it should normally do. I don't know, but that is one idea I have
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07:12:20 <esowiki> [[Re:direction]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58825&oldid=58809 * Ais523 * (+26) /* Hello world program */ grammar, clarify
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07:51:24 <chal_> Is /// input-universal?
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12:43:55 <b_jonas> zzo38: re reading audio from CD, if you have a linux machine and a CD drive connected to the same machine and the drive isn't too ancient, then install libburnia from distro or ... source would be at http://www.libburnia-project.org/ but that website is down,
12:44:25 <b_jonas> then use the cdrskin program in libburnia with the right switches to read the table of contents and audio cd tracks to files, read the manpage of cdrskin for that, then cat some of those files to stdout.
12:45:12 <b_jonas> there are also programs older than libburnia that can do this, but I think libburnia supercedes them if you have a working linux
13:05:57 <b_jonas> libburnia handles CD and DVD disks of all kinds, it is partitioned to three source packages: libburnia has the higher-level C api and a few command-line executables including cdrskin and isorrix, and two dependency libraries, one each for the file system details and the disk drive hardware details, at least the parts that aren't always done by the
13:05:57 <b_jonas> kernel.
13:06:30 <b_jonas> even if the website is down, you should be able to find the source packages at debian
13:07:36 <b_jonas> I then use ffmpeg to process the raw music files I read
13:07:51 <b_jonas> (and some wrappers in shell script or perl specific for my applications)
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13:14:04 <b_jonas> arseniiv => hmm, I guess you're in Russia or Belarus then. though I don't know when DST was abolished.
13:14:14 <b_jonas> let me look that up
13:15:35 <b_jonas> zzo38: that seems normal. most adult dragons are immune to their breath attacks, and I think most other creatures that have a breath attack have at least some resistance to it, except perhaps with some really exotic breath attacks
13:15:53 <b_jonas> it's hard to imagine someone breathing fire or ice or poison but not being very resistant to it
13:18:35 <b_jonas> oerjan: ore more dangerously, the creature might breath flammable gas and withstand enough heat that comes into contact with the exhaust hole, but not be able to withstand the fire at its hottest point with its skin completely. but dragons don't work this way, because they have scales in most parts of their body, and the fire dragons' scales protec
13:18:35 <b_jonas> t against the fire by the time they can use their breath attack
13:20:49 <b_jonas> hmm, apparently Russia removed most parts from DST changes only quite recently. I know that most parts were ahead of mean solar time even in winter when I was young.
13:22:28 <b_jonas> zzo38: you've probably read http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/3018.html about dragons and their resistance to fire
13:24:10 <b_jonas> as for breath attack and bite attack together, I have no problem with a creature having both, and in particular a dragon would have both. I always imagined that they didn't use the two simultaneously, but with a small delay, but that doesn't make too much difference, it might still happen fast enough that both are effectively on the same turn.
13:24:53 <b_jonas> ais523: ^ chal_'s question
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14:20:46 <ais523> b_jonas: chal_ quit before I could get online, but I don't know the answer for sure
14:20:48 <ais523> I'm guessing no though
14:21:20 <b_jonas> ok
14:21:25 <ais523> although thinking about it, I've seen ///-alikes that are
14:21:27 <ais523> so maybe it is?
14:22:54 <ais523> re: poison, its' weird that "poison immunity" / "poison resistance" is treated as a universal, general-purpose thing
14:23:04 <ais523> when in practice there are a large number of different poisons with different mechanisms
14:23:07 <b_jonas> sure, gnu sed is universal for non-interactive IO for example. it can concatenate all the input, then do all the work after it's all read. I think sed is even universal for interactive linewise IO.
14:23:16 <ais523> so a poison-breathing dragon, I'd expect it to be immune to its own poison, but maybe not to those of other species?
14:24:10 <ais523> it actually misses out on universality in a fairly stupid way (if input is completely empty, output must be too)
14:24:24 <ais523> if you append/prepend a newline to the input then you have universality
14:25:03 <b_jonas> ais523: well, a few things that you might sometimes call "poison" don't count into it, and exist separately, such as acid (though I think in some D&D versions, acid is poison), sleep, nethack hallucination. in a modern tech setting, there might be more of these, such as toxical heavy metals and radioactivity.
14:25:35 <b_jonas> ais523: hmm... ok
14:26:10 <b_jonas> ais523: we have examples for fire and cold dragons that are immune too
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14:27:02 <b_jonas> I think a dragon with teleport breath or force bolt breath would perhaps not be immune to its own breath, but those things are rare
14:27:21 <ais523> anyway, time to go off and do Christmas things with family
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14:27:39 <b_jonas> mind you, a force bolt dragon would still be somewhat tough because of its scales, so it would be able to withstand several turns of force breath by a kin
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14:33:50 <LKoen> b_jonas: as far as I know, real world doctors make a distinction between three types of poisoning: chemical, biological, or radioactive
14:35:33 <LKoen> I must say I had never heard of or though of "teleport breath" before
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14:36:25 <LKoen> although "I breath some fumes on you, you pass out, and when you'll wake up you'll be in another place" is somewhat of an overused hollywood plot device
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16:43:28 <oerjan> <chal_> Is /// input-universal? <-- hm if that means what i think it means, then i've looked at it, and the answer is no, but only barely.
16:45:52 <oerjan> you need to be able to exclude _some_ string from the input in order to be sure not to lose information while substituting. but it may be possible to choose any single excluded string you want.
16:46:01 <oerjan> (too bad e left)
16:47:01 <b_jonas> meh, this is a channel with public logs, so I don't much care about who parts
16:47:49 <oerjan> (incidentally i thought of this while making this PPCG answer: https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/142655/draw-my-downslashes/156081#156081 )
16:48:03 <oerjan> b_jonas: it wasn't a regular so my worry is more that e won't come back
16:48:48 <oerjan> in that answer i managed to just append a raw string input, despite the input format consisting entirely of / and \
16:49:24 <int-e> > exp 1
16:49:26 <lambdabot> 2.718281828459045
16:49:55 <b_jonas> dofuck fails output universality in a stupid way
16:50:23 <b_jonas> but then, it's a stupid language, so that's ok
16:50:48 <b_jonas> [ ^1
16:50:49 <j-bot> b_jonas: 2.71828
16:53:30 <int-e> `` bc -l <<<'scale=100;e(1)'
16:53:31 <HackEso> ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: bc: command not found
16:53:44 <int-e> aww
16:53:44 <oerjan> > exp 1 :: CReal
16:53:46 <lambdabot> 2.7182818284590452353602874713526624977572
16:54:58 <b_jonas> `[ 0j15":^1 NB. still just 64-bit floating point
16:54:59 <HackEso> ​[: missing ‘]’
16:55:03 <b_jonas> [ 0j15":^1 NB. still just 64-bit floating point
16:55:04 <j-bot> b_jonas: 2.718281828459045
16:57:52 <fizzie> `` bc -l <<<'scale=100;e(1)'
16:57:52 <HackEso> 2.718281828459045235360287471352662497757247093699959574966967627724\ \ 0766303535475945713821785251664274
16:57:54 <fizzie> int-e: ^
16:58:15 <int-e> yay
16:58:52 <int-e> `` BC_LINE_LENGTH=0 bc -l <<<'scale=100;e(1)'
16:58:53 <HackEso> 2.7182818284590452353602874713526624977572470936999595749669676277240766303535475945713821785251664274
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17:16:50 <zzo38> To use two attacks on the same turn in GURPS requires a rapid strike, with a -6 penalty to hit (-3 for kung fu masters), so that is what I suggested if you can use both on same turn.
17:21:37 <zzo38> I would think especially contact agent poison (rather than fire) breath attack, you would likely be immune to your own; with fire you could still get burned I would think (although you may be resistant to the heat, though). In this case the poison is one that makes the target sleeping
17:24:03 <zzo38> Like b_jonas I also did not intend anyone would actually use a bite and breath attack truly simultaneously. Rather, my question was about using a breath attack if your mouth is still touching the target (they didn't escape) after biting. So, I thought, in such a case the breath attack can't miss, but your mouth isn't open very wide so it the damage of the breath attack should be reduced (but by how much?)
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18:57:35 <zzo38> (Presumably it will be reduced to minimum damage, I suppose. That is still not so bad, though, since any armour is already bypassed, probably)
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