00:05:30 <Kmkr> who's first to write 99bob in this language? :)
00:05:55 <Kmkr> i hope not! :p
00:15:09 <Kmkr> if there is space before instruction, do i use '!'? like for example
00:20:14 <Kmkr> it could provide interesting results if a competition was held in this language.. for example, "write the shortest program to print out 'Hello, I'm some data..' to win!"
00:20:43 <graue> what do you mean if there's space before an instruction?
00:20:56 <Kmkr> i mean if there is spaces
00:21:00 <graue> if a character doesn't get executed it can be anything (exclamation mark, space, etc)
00:22:57 <Kmkr> what means "out of bounds"?
00:23:05 <Kmkr> the interpreter doesn't like my code :)
00:23:14 <graue> it means your code left the rectangle of code space
00:23:27 <graue> the only clean way to exit is a C (command 67)
00:23:44 <Kmkr> that i've been trying to..
00:24:04 <Kmkr> there seems to be error somewhere
00:24:59 <Kmkr> i have to wake "early" (8 am) today.. for many days i've slept till 3 pm.. :)
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20:25:25 <BigZaphod> I haven't actually read any of this yet, but it looks interesting: http://cs.wellesley.edu/~fturbak/pubs/6821/current/
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21:04:08 <Kmkr> woah. thanks for that link
21:04:16 <Kmkr> really cool book
21:04:32 <Kmkr> i'm sure going to read it
21:04:39 <Kmkr> it's fairly new book as well
21:52:35 <{^Raven^}> calamari and I have been working on BFBASIC, new version is available on SF
21:54:06 <{^Raven^}> more stuff coming soon I hope, calamari has written a really nice symbolic debugger in Java for BF
21:56:22 <jix> where can i find BFBASIC?
21:57:38 <{^Raven^}> jix: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/brainfuck/bfbasic/
22:01:29 <jix> i get a proxy error msg but i don't use a proxy
22:02:10 <Kmkr> (and i don't use proxy)
22:04:00 <{^Raven^}> Temporarily available here: http://jonripley.com/~jon/bfbasic-1.41.zip
22:05:08 <Kmkr> i'll need to go
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22:29:58 <jix> hmm whirl basic?
22:30:37 <{^Raven^}> Should be possible for any suitably motivated person :)
22:32:13 <jix> i'm going to write a whirl-basic
22:34:31 * {^Raven^} tries to imagine the look on BigZaphod's face when he sees the release version :)
22:36:02 <jix> i'll start with a whirl asm and then a basic=>whirl asm converter
22:37:38 <{^Raven^}> hmmm...With that method you could have inline assembler inside a Whirl BASIC program
22:38:33 * {^Raven^} would love to be able to retarget Small-C to something esoteric
22:39:08 <jix> hmm whirl is that whirly i need 3 levels.. basic=>high-level-asm=>low-level-asm(only the whirl instructions)=>whirl
22:41:37 <jix> but first i need to sleep
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23:56:18 <calamari> graue: how is it that the dumps seem to be getting smaller, instead of larger? :)
23:56:39 <calamari> need to patent that and sell it ;)
23:56:40 <graue> there's a "cache" of some kind in there...
23:56:54 <graue> and the old deleted stuff might actually get expunged after a while (I'm not sure about this)...
23:57:01 <graue> and I stopped including the user tables
23:57:25 <graue> it contained hashed passwords
23:57:49 <graue> which, of course, may be a secure hash, but if your password is an english word or something, that would still be enough to compromise it