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02:14:47 <kb3nnj> Well, no one can sue this channel for false advertising, that's for sure.
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02:27:59 <Razor-X> You may also want to join the contest, if you want to.
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02:58:04 <kb3nnj> Anyone still alive in here?
02:59:23 <ihope> Except that I'm tired and I'm looking forward to sleeping.
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04:43:55 <GregorR> Uuuuuuuuuuse the EgoBot :P
04:46:18 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
04:46:20 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
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05:10:01 <GregorR> You'd put the program after that to be useful :P
05:29:52 <GregorR> Also, a program that does ... anything at all would be ideal :P
05:30:47 <theblue> What's the difference between 8, 16, etc?
05:30:58 <GregorR> The bitwidth of the interpreter.
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05:31:50 <GregorR> !bf >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+.
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13:43:17 <ihope> Hmm, EQBF starts with |1>? Why the heck is that?
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18:58:41 * pgimeno finally manages to catch up with the log
19:09:59 <pgimeno> http://www.qubit.org/oldsite/resource/deutsch85.pdf <- interesting paper which pretty much analyzes "quantum completeness" (too technical though)
20:16:15 <Razor-X> GregorR: Do you mind if I make a few more modifications to Glass?
20:27:44 <Razor-X> I wanna add in binary and, or, xor, nand, nor, xnor.
20:44:29 <GregorR> OK, I might disagree with that.
20:44:38 <GregorR> That can be trivially written in Glass.
20:44:52 <GregorR> Furthermore, I've written all of it already.
20:45:27 <Razor-X> I mean, you probably *can* but....
20:45:42 <GregorR> Oh! I didn't imply 'bitwise' from 'binary'
20:45:51 <Razor-X> Yeah. Sorry, I meant bitwise.
20:45:58 <Razor-X> Not logical operators. Those are easy to implement.
20:46:21 <pgimeno> reminder for Read-only Gregor: http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/malbolge.patch
20:46:34 <Razor-X> I hope Glass becomes semi-useful at some future time.
20:47:19 <Razor-X> Wait... how would you have logical XNOR? :P.
20:50:17 <pgimeno> yeah, the reference interpreter is buggy
20:50:26 <Razor-X> Thou art more courageous than I :P.
20:50:56 <pgimeno> Abandon hope, all ye who enter Malbolge programs into the interpreter
20:52:02 <pgimeno> it's addictive and time-consuming
20:52:05 <Razor-X> Why don't you enter the Malbolge portion of the competition?
20:52:20 <pgimeno> because it's addictive and time-consuming :P
20:52:23 <Razor-X> You're sure to get the True Masochist award, since I don't think anyone else has the courage to compete.
20:53:58 <pgimeno> well, because 1) I don't like to contend, 2) my job does not allow me much free time, 3) I'm not sure I will be able to solve any challenge
20:54:24 <pgimeno> Malbolge is really really awkward to code in
20:54:32 <pgimeno> maybe if it were Dis instead...
20:55:15 <pgimeno> this is 99bob in normalized Malbolge: http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/bottles-995.n
20:56:02 <pgimeno> the "i" instruction is a jump
20:57:33 <pgimeno> only the first two lines and last 10 lines contain jump instructions, meaning that the rest is only data manipulation to set up memory to desired values
20:57:43 <Razor-X> We're not giving a challenge to Malbolge.
20:57:50 <Razor-X> It's simlpy ``Whoever makes the better program''.
20:58:13 <pgimeno> and what if Hisashi Iizawa wants to enter the contest? :)
20:58:55 <pgimeno> http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-malbolge-995.html
21:00:24 <pgimeno> about the data manipulation phase, it's almost impossible to do manually in a compact manner; program-assisted initialization is easier and I'd bet it's been used for 99bob
21:01:02 <Razor-X> I guess we'll let Malbolge users use program assistance.
21:01:12 <pgimeno> compare to my cat program: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Malbolge#Sample_programs
21:02:42 <GregorR> I think we should drop Malbolge.
21:02:56 <GregorR> I can't imagine we'll get more than one participant in that language, and if we get one it's an autmatic win (read: lame)
21:03:59 <GregorR> Not much on the defence, are you :P
21:06:39 <Razor-X> I was hoping that maybe some people would try.
21:06:45 <Razor-X> But I wasn't really expecting much.
21:06:54 <Razor-X> T3h patch is almost finished for Bitwise operations.
21:09:22 <pgimeno> oh, a Perl compiler in Intercal
21:09:31 <pgimeno> or was it the other way around?
21:10:07 <pgimeno> anyway I've just found this: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~intercal/manual/quantum.html
21:12:16 <pgimeno> (apparently by one of the committee members)
21:14:26 <pgimeno> er, maybe I should have said "the other committee member"
21:18:13 <Razor-X> I might make a Perl regexp interpreter in INTERCAL.
21:18:22 <Razor-X> But right now a BF interpreter is enough.
21:19:16 <Razor-X> Yeah, I had ta be away-ish. Now I'm not. And it seems my patch works so far. Just two more things to add.
21:20:10 <Razor-X> Let's give it a name... GNU Glass v (insert version number) !
21:35:07 <pgimeno> seems that the patch is effective
21:39:33 <pgimeno> !malbolge '=a;:?87[543216/SR2+*No-,%*#G4
21:41:07 <Razor-X> GregorR: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/builtins.diff
21:41:19 <Razor-X> There, it has the new B class and the corresponding bitwise functions.
21:48:49 <pgimeno> yay, the malbolge 99bob is #1 with 4.74 points out of 5
21:51:03 <Razor-X> Does anyone know of any good introductory level texts to the piano that's free?
22:06:03 <pgimeno> hm, there's no Dis version of 99bob
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