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00:58:53 <Razor-X> Why are they so oftenly taught to CS students when they're incredibly cumbersome to manage?
00:59:07 <Razor-X> Although if you want an INTERCAL-esque language, trees are the way to go ;).
00:59:22 <lament> because they're an incredibly useful data structure with really cool properties?
00:59:38 <lament> AND a classic example of recursive algorithms
01:00:02 <GreyKnight> I think a binary tree might be pretty useful here
01:00:05 <Razor-X> I guess if you want to search for something in a data structure recursively, trees are useful, but other than that.....
01:01:03 <GreyKnight> specifying an edge requires specifying two nodes at the same time
01:07:59 <GreyKnight> Razor-X: did you see my spec for that lego-based language I mentioned before?
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01:08:56 <GreyKnight> <pikhq> That means that Razor-X isn't likely to complain.
01:14:54 <Razor-X> If I get time later today I want to program a CRC32 checksum generator in Scheme as something kinda-useful.
01:15:11 <Razor-X> What does a generator do if the file you're creating a checksum of is less than 4 bytes? Pad the file to 4 bytes, or truncate the key?
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01:37:29 <GreyKnight> The reversal thing is a complete coincidence, of course!
01:37:55 <Razor-X> That was my router being idiotic, by the way.
01:39:12 <Razor-X> No need to be afraid, my uptime is alright.
01:40:41 <Razor-X> Mmmm. Slide rules are cool.
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01:54:53 <Sgeo> What reversal thing?
01:57:21 <pikhq> http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/31621.aspx MY BRAIN!!!
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03:00:08 <pikhq> My thoughts exactly.
03:00:24 <Razor-X> I haven't read the link though :D.
03:58:54 <CakeProphet> Or ( sqrt( (18 * 1/5)/1)/1) )/1 )^2 for clarity
03:59:45 <GregorR> I don't know sqrt off the top of my head :-P
04:03:22 <CakeProphet> GregorR, Omit the square root and the exponent then :D
04:03:47 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
04:03:49 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
04:03:59 <EgoBot> /bin/bash: /opt/sablevm/bin/sablevm: No such file or directory
04:04:20 * pikhq would prefer to do that in RPN.
04:04:27 <GregorR> BAHAHAHAHAHAH - FreeCiv was NOT meant to run on 800x600 XD
04:04:51 <EgoBot> 51 +++++++++++[>+++>++++++++++>><<<<-]>-..>--.+++.---. [191]
04:05:18 <pikhq> 18 1 5/*1/1/2v1/2^
04:13:49 <EgoBot> 138 ++++++++++++[>++++++>+++>++++++++>+++++++++<<<<-]>-----.>>+.>-.<++++.<----.>++++.++++++++++.<.>------.------------.++++++.++.------.--.>+. [696]
04:18:11 <EgoBot> 61 +++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++>><<<<-]>--.>.<---.++++++++. [64]
04:20:16 <pikhq> !bf_txtgen It's better on localhost.
04:20:41 <EgoBot> 186 +++++++++++++[>++++++>+++>+++++++++>++++++++<<<<-]>-----.>>-.<.>-.<-------.<+++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++.>>+..>---.<--.<.>---.-.<.<+++++++.>>+.>--.--.<<<.----.>>.++++.+.<++++++++++++++. [368]
04:21:28 <GregorR> That's because I cut it off.
04:21:37 <GregorR> It never stops otherwise :P
04:22:15 <pikhq> 199 +++++++++++++[>+++++++++>++++++>+++++++++>+++<<<<-]>>-----.>-.<+++++++++++++++++++.>>.<-.>-------.<<++++++.+++.<-..>.>-.>.<---.-.>.<<+++++++.>+.------------.--.<.----.+++++++.++++.+.>>++++++++++++++. [678]
04:22:34 <pikhq> !bf +++++++++++++[>+++++++++>++++++>+++++++++>+++<<<<-]>>-----.>-.<+++++++++++++++++++.>>.<-.>-------.<<++++++.+++.<-..>.>-.>.<---.-.>.<<+++++++.>+.------------.--.<.----.+++++++.++++.+.>>++++++++++++++.
04:22:37 <EgoBot> It\'s better on localhost.
04:24:22 <pikhq> !bf ++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++>++++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>+++.>>++++.<---.>-.<-------.>>.+++.<+..>.<--.<.>---.-.<.>>+++++++.<+.------------.--.>.<+++++++.>+++.++++.+.<<++++++++++++++.
04:24:25 <EgoBot> It's better on localhost.
04:26:09 <pikhq> !bf_txtgen AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
04:26:20 <pikhq> Watch as it produces something ridiculously complex.
04:26:35 <EgoBot> 60 +++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++>><<<<-]>...........>.....<....... [499]
04:26:35 <GregorR> Not ridiculously, but still complex, yeah.
05:02:12 * GregorR attempts to compile supertux for m68k, to run on his LC580
05:07:15 <GregorR> Nothing less debuggable on this planet.
05:07:24 <GregorR> It popped up a window though!
05:07:30 <GregorR> So it's at least somewhere!
05:07:41 <GregorR> Maybe it assumed that I'd compiled in JPEG support :P
05:07:57 <GregorR> And told SDL_image to open a .jpg without actually verifying that it worked.
05:08:13 <GregorR> (I pray for this case because it's trivial to fix ;) )
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05:18:02 <GregorR> This proc, btw, is 32MHz :P
05:30:58 <GregorR> Come ooooooooooooooooon supertux! You can DO it!
05:31:24 <pikhq> Slower than my *calculator*.
05:31:46 <GregorR> Actually, I wouldn't be particularly surprised if your calculator had the same type of proc (m68k)
05:32:01 <pikhq> Except that mine is a 66mhz ARM9. . .
05:32:11 <GregorR> OMG IT SORT OF STARTED RUNNING
05:32:49 * pikhq hugs his HP 49g+ a bit
05:36:05 <GregorR> Something tells me I'm not going to be playing supertux any time soon :-P
05:36:13 <GregorR> Any suggestions for a game to try to port?
05:36:20 <GregorR> It has to be more than nethack :P
05:37:22 <pikhq> What are you running on?
05:38:03 <GregorR> Macintosh LC 580 (m68k/32MHz) + Debian 2.2 (Potato) + custom-built libs
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06:43:07 <Razor-X> !bf_txtgen Cursing makes me sound cool.
06:43:35 <EgoBot> 210 +++++++++++[>+++>++++++++++>++++++>+++++++++++<<<<-]>>>+.>----.---.+.<++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<.>--.<<-.>-.>------.<--.>++++.>.<<<.>++.>.<<.>>>.<<++.>>++.-------.<-.<<.>>-.<..---.<++++++++++++++. [619]
06:43:48 <Razor-X> !bf +++++++++++[>+++>++++++++++>++++++>+++++++++++<<<<-]>>>+.>----.---.+.<++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<.>--.<<-.>-.>------.<--.>++++.>.<<<.>++.>.<<.>>>.<<++.>>++.-------.<-.<<.>>-.<..---.<++++++++++++++.
06:43:51 <EgoBot> Cursing makes me sound cool.
06:44:25 <Razor-X> I should use some of my summer-learned statistics to run some lay statistical analyses on bf_txtgen.
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14:25:35 <ihope> I just typo'd /attach as /chanserv. Kill me.
14:31:39 <fizzie> Mr. Stabby, laa-la la-la-laa.
14:51:35 <ihope> [INFO] Connecting to irc://127.0.0.1/ (irc://127.0.0.1/), attempt 1, next attempt in 15 seconds...
14:51:45 <ihope> [ERROR] Connection to irc://127.0.0.1/ (irc://127.0.0.1/) refused.
14:51:52 <ihope> [ERROR] Connection to irc://127.0.0.1/ (irc://127.0.0.1/) closed.
14:51:59 <ihope> The connection was refused, then closed?
14:52:56 <GreyKnight> maybe just an artifact of the points in the code those messages are generated at
14:53:34 <ihope> Maybe my computer thinks it has a firewall.
14:57:00 <fizzie> Might well be a client that "opens" a "connection" (some sort of internal data structure), gets a "connection refused" network reply (and prints the first ERROR), then destroys the internal connection object thing (second ERROR).
14:57:58 <ihope> Well, if I don't have the ircd running, it just says "refused". If it is running, I get both "refused" and "closed".
15:01:40 <fizzie> I _guess_ in theory it could print "connection refused" even when the _ircd_ sends a "not welcome" reply, but that'd be very silly.
15:06:31 <ihope> I doubt the ircd said I'm not welcome. It's my ircd, after all.
15:06:57 <GreyKnight> Maybe your computer hates you, and this is its revenge :-)
15:07:39 <ihope> Oh, and trying to telnet to 127.0.0.1 on port 6667 says "connect failed".
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15:49:12 <ihope> GreyKnight: was that a question or a suggestion?
15:49:24 <GreyKnight> I was wondering where the iron chain came from
15:49:51 <ihope> Nope, it was a wand of nick.
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16:13:32 <GregorR-W> Us, two weeks ago: "The default version of vim is changing to 7.0 in two weeks."
16:13:51 <GregorR-W> Us, one week ago: "The default version of vim is changing to 7.0 in one week."
16:13:54 <GregorR-W> Us, one day ago: "The default version of vim is changing to 7.0 tomorrow."
16:14:11 <GregorR-W> Them, today: "zomg my vimrc broke u sux"
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16:56:26 <ihope> I see it uses many braces in weird places.
16:56:35 * ihope stabs GregorR-W with a {
16:56:55 <GregorR-W> They're all in fairly reasonable places.
16:57:03 <GregorR-W> Though }); has sort of become Plof's motto :P
16:58:10 <ihope> It looks like a wonky emoticon.
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16:59:25 <GreyKnight> It's an emoticon who is sad because his fake moustache has fallen down to his chin
16:59:57 <GreyKnight> And possibly whatever knocked it off has poked him in one eye
17:00:29 <ihope> Okay, so where do the braces go?
17:00:49 <ihope> {foobar} seems to mean... well, maybe it contains blocks and operators and such.
17:01:17 <GregorR-W> ihope: It's a functional language. {foobar} defines an anonymous function which returns the value in the variable "foobar"
17:01:48 <ihope> So foobar is a variable and {foobar} is its value, or what?
17:02:02 <GregorR-W> No, {foobar} is a function which returns its value.
17:05:44 <GregorR-W> You call if with the parameters of the condition and the function you'd like called if the condition is true.
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18:12:53 <GregorR-W> ihope went from "mildly interested" to "not even slightly interested" in no time flat :P
18:13:10 <ihope> Eh, sure I'm interested.
18:13:20 <ihope> I just didn't really have anything to say.
18:14:04 <GreyKnight> Which is a fairly noteworthy event :-)
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18:26:21 <ihope> An associative array of strings?
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19:05:44 <pikhq> I use irssi for IRC. Don't need to care. ;)
19:06:28 <GregorR-W> I should start using telnet for IRC ^^
19:06:55 <GregorR-W> I'd just need something to autpong and I'd have the perfect IRC client.
19:08:17 <ihope> Dude, write an IRC bot from scratch or something.
19:08:22 <ihope> And then use it as a client.
19:08:31 <GregorR-W> ihope: I have. But I don't use it as a client :P
19:08:49 <ihope> Modify it such that it can be used as a client?
19:38:49 <GreyWorker> I have an IRC client, but I haven't quite finished it :-\
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19:45:56 <ihope> Procrastination ftw.
19:46:10 <ihope> What we need is a competition.
19:46:19 <ihope> Whoever can write the best IRC bot in 30 seconds wins.
19:46:20 <GreyKnight> To see who can procrastinate the most?
19:46:48 <GregorR-W> ihope: I started writing rawirc, but got lazy when it came to select()'ing between stdin and the connected FD :P
19:46:57 <ihope> Time's up. What a shame, nobody entered.
19:47:13 <GreyKnight> We were all doing my procrastination idea instead
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20:02:31 <GreyKnight> What *not* to do with your IRC scripts: http://qdb.us/64488
20:03:12 <pikhq> Razor-X: Hey. . . For the Esolangs contest, could I do a BF program to compress BF programs? :p
20:04:21 <GreyKnight> It's hard to spot things in that monstrosity of a topic :-3
20:05:03 <GregorR-W> pikhq: "This may use any compression algorithm, so long as it works."
20:05:17 <GregorR-W> The question is whether that works.
20:05:26 <GregorR-W> I think that if it can't compress arbitrary data, it's probably not legit.
20:08:07 <pikhq> GregorR-W: It'd be designed to pretty much do lossless RLE of Brainfuck code. . . Which means that it could work on arbitrary data (although it wouldn't do any compression).
20:08:37 <GregorR-W> And would probably get bonus points for clever.
20:09:14 <pikhq> First, I should probably write example C programs for this format. ;)
20:10:27 <deltab> GregorR-W: if it *can* compress anything, itym
20:11:07 <GregorR-W> deltab: If it can't compress arbitrary data, then it is NOT legit ;)
20:11:33 <deltab> I didn't notice the context
20:13:37 <ihope> Compress this: ^ZVS5+gwH?p%?-kw0.$g5X_q9h DNCJ;_e*/,00i/521>{mk+79FM.6iQXY~p-:B, Bf/2M%G?\i*!XfTe$zPR1S9(<^_\1H4 b&qa1RBNO-c6>]p N[?Z,<(D"BhYTG35 {HOmep\t9VqZ&{#V6/0 !|&%{>Ao"@Ul>rxF^;m|S.}WiVew^)jLF[*Tgg
20:14:35 <ihope> GregorR-W: no, some of them are Unicode :-P
20:15:10 <pikhq> It could easily be compressed into this format.
20:15:37 <pikhq> Unfortunately, that input would end up being a little bit larger after compression.
20:15:52 <pikhq> Or be identical, size-wise.
20:16:28 * pikhq just sees them as question marks
20:16:30 <GregorR-W> ihope: wtf, is that a gzip quine?! >_O
20:16:46 <ihope> GregorR-W: of course.
20:17:03 <ihope> Run it through gzip until you get the original.
20:17:22 <GregorR-W> And went "WTF ... this didn't compress ..."
20:17:26 <ihope> And got something different?
20:18:11 <ihope> I doubt that that's a gzip quine.
20:18:26 <GregorR-W> My editor gzip's automagically as it turns out.
20:20:31 <GreyKnight> Try base-64 encoding this: Vm0wd2QyUXlVWGxWV0d4V1YwZDRWMVl3Wkc5Vk1XeHlWbTVrVm1KR2NIbFdWM1JMVlVaV1ZVMUVhejA9
20:21:28 <GreyKnight> The actual fixpoint is infinitely long, of course; that's just the first part of it
20:21:59 <GreyKnight> But you can generate arbitrarily long prefixes of the fixpoint by applying the encode operation repeatedly
20:23:42 <GregorR-W> OK foks: Should plof's new be recursive?
20:24:31 <GregorR-W> Well, duplicate an object really (it's prototype-oriented)
20:24:59 <GreyKnight> How do you mean "recursive"? If that object has subobjects, duplicate them vs maintain the reference?
20:25:34 <GreyKnight> There are situations where you might use either... I'd have some way to select which one you want.
20:26:39 <GregorR-W> Well, with a prototype-based language, the recursive/deep new is actually more intuitive.
20:27:04 <GregorR-W> So maybe new/shallownew or new/dup (but dup doesn't exactly imply shallow...)
20:27:32 <GregorR-W> (BTW, prototype-based = rather than having a class, you just have objects, and to instantiate them you duplicate your "prototype" object)
20:27:55 <GregorR-W> I don't like subintuitive abbreviations >_>
20:30:14 <GregorR-W> snew = "string new? shallow new? stupid new?", shallownew = long, dup = doesn't imply shallow X_X
20:31:10 <GregorR-W> Or new could take a depth as parameter...
20:31:19 <GregorR-W> But only 1 and infinity would be useful in all likelihood.
20:32:29 <GreyKnight> other values might be handy if some insane person tries to mix deep/shallow copies
20:35:37 <pikhq> Got a very straightforward C decompression algorithm. . .
20:37:58 <ihope> Could you specify multiple levels of infinity, or would that be too insane?
21:00:47 <pikhq> My compression program is broken.
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21:03:56 <ihope> Yay, pikhq's compression program is broken!
21:05:21 <pikhq> And I'm only working in C right now. x_x
21:08:47 <pikhq> You'd think that getting something to just RLE + - > < wouldn't be so damned hard.
21:11:50 <pikhq> Screw it; I'm taking RLE code from somewhere else.
21:13:10 * ihope disqualifies pikhq from all competitions in the world
21:57:17 <pikhq> Fixed it without going to someone else's code.
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22:15:11 <pikhq> GregorR-W: Now, in my Brainfuck decompressor, I'm trying to make the code very, very compressable by itself. . . Think that's a good idea?
22:15:45 <GregorR-W> I have no comment on the positivity or negativity of that scheme.
22:16:00 <pikhq> I'll just keep on coding, then.
22:20:58 <GreyKnight> little null problem hidden away in the parsing code
22:21:09 <GreyKnight> #! Error: (1145) 'SYSTEM' IS NOT A FUNCTION OR A MACRO
22:21:32 <GreyKnight> I should have that one insult the user... people are always doing it
22:25:18 <ihope> #do eval (def foo 3) foo
22:25:22 <GreyKnight> #! Error: (1145) 'DEF' IS NOT A FUNCTION OR A MACRO
22:25:31 <ihope> #do eval (define foo 3) foo
22:25:35 <GreyKnight> #! Error: (1145) 'DEFINE' IS NOT A FUNCTION OR A MACRO
22:25:51 <GreyKnight> I guess it could be better documented.
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22:26:58 <ihope> #do eval (defun system (x) (list nice try)) (system "rm 0rf /")
22:27:21 <ihope> #do eval (defun system (x) '(nice try)) (system "rm -rf /")
22:27:51 <GreyKnight> #do eval (defun system (x) (list 'nice 'try)) (system "rm 0rf /")
22:29:16 <ihope> #do eval (system "rm -rf /")
22:29:51 <GreyKnight> I just changed it to :QUIT-TRYING-TO-HAXOR-ME while you were typing that
22:29:58 <ihope> #do eval (system "ls")
22:30:55 <ihope> #do eval (system )
22:30:58 <GreyKnight> #! Error: (1076) LAMBDA REQUIRED 1 ARGUMENTS, GOT 0
22:31:04 <ihope> #do eval (system system)
22:31:35 <GreyKnight> lambda-lists are currently pretty restrictive; you have to specify exactly as many arguments as it expects
22:32:05 <ihope> #do eval (defun quine () '(quine)) (quine)
22:32:46 <GreyKnight> #> #<CLOSURE :LAMBDA (QUINE) (QUOTE LOL-QUINE)>
22:33:08 <ihope> #do eval Here comes a quine
22:34:01 <pikhq> Know of any good BF debuggers?
22:34:16 <GregorR-W> #do eval Let's get this bot flooded off the network; I'm sure FreeNode won't like seeing this many messages coming in a brief span. If it does, sorry
22:35:15 <GreyKnight> you did uncover a bug, though; it should've stopped at the ;
22:35:35 <ihope> #do eval Flooded; I'm
22:40:27 <GreyKnight> #help <command> : Tells you what a command does.
22:40:34 <GreyKnight> #help <command> : Tells you what a command does.
22:40:40 <GreyKnight> #do <cmd> <arguments...> : <cmd> can be: 'echo' - repeats the arguments; 'eval' - evaluates the arguments as gkd-lisp
22:40:52 <GreyKnight> #reload: I don't know what that command is...
22:40:55 <GreyKnight> #say: I don't know what that command is...
22:41:03 <GregorR-W> #help whydontyouhaveacommandlistmofo
22:41:03 <GreyKnight> #whydontyouhaveacommandlistmofo: I don't know what that command is...
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22:42:28 <GreyKnight> #help #do #eval #echo #ftoc #ctof #ping #chat #quit #pray #kickme #google #senet #status
22:42:30 <ihope> #do echo !@#_)!3x'wqA{swA<Qx9j -3jA+ w[0x DKAW-aW_x=a
22:42:32 <GreyKnight> #> !@#_)!3x'wqA{swA<Qx9j -3jA+ w[0x DKAW-aW_x=a
22:42:58 <GreyKnight> #kickme only works on channels I have ops for, silly :-P
22:43:07 * GregorR-W wonders if GreyKnight's internet is logged ...
22:43:30 <GregorR-W> #google terrorism bombs chemical warfare al qaeda kill george w bush
22:43:35 <GreyKnight> 3: http://www.bushoniraq.com/bush2.html
22:43:37 <GreyKnight> 4: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/george_w_bush/index.html?query=ZARQAWI,%20ABU%20MUSAB%20AL-&field=per&match=exact
22:43:38 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "#google terrorism bombs chemical warfare al qaeda kill george w bush".
22:44:20 <GregorR-W> #google hot gay al qaeda terrorist porn
22:44:23 <GreyKnight> Those were the only results for "#google hot gay al qaeda terrorist porn".
22:44:49 <ihope> #google badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom
22:44:54 <GreyKnight> 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger_Badger_Badger
22:44:56 <GreyKnight> 3: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1129709282896231096
22:44:57 <GreyKnight> 4: http://www.michaelandkrissy.com/2004/06/09/badger_badger_badger/
22:44:59 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "#google badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom".
22:46:06 <pikhq> Is it just me, or is GreyKnight also a bot?
22:46:20 <GreyKnight> there are 284,000 results for your porn one... I don't know what happen there.
22:46:34 <pikhq> #google Brainfuck debugger
22:46:36 <GreyKnight> 1: http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Brainfuck/
22:46:38 <GreyKnight> 2: http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Lisp/Emacs_Lisp/Programming_Support/
22:46:40 <GreyKnight> 3: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Debuggers/Brainfuck-Debugger-1759.shtml
22:46:42 <GreyKnight> 4: http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Brainfuck-Debugger-Screenshot-1759.html
22:46:44 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "#google Brainfuck debugger".
22:46:47 <GregorR-W> I caused GreyKnight to put "hot gay al qaeda terrorist porn" in a google search box :P
22:47:11 <ihope> #google pikhq, I'm a cyborg
22:47:13 <GreyKnight> Nothing found for "#google pikhq, I'm a cyborg".
22:47:15 <pikhq> GregorR-W: Poor guy. :p
22:47:44 <ihope> #google 0102010301020104
22:47:46 <GreyKnight> Nothing found for "#google 0102010301020104".
22:48:02 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "#google".
22:48:07 <GreyKnight> 1: http://itpro.no/supportforum.php?act=ST&f=29&t=21501
22:48:09 <GreyKnight> 2: http://www.terralab.ru/priceru/?view=pr&cid=01020103&pnam=&where=00
22:48:09 <GregorR-W> I think maybe it's putting "#google" in the actual search XD
22:48:11 <GreyKnight> 3: http://www.tpub.com/content/bridges/TM-55-1945-205-10-4/css/TM-55-1945-205-10-4_512.htm
22:48:12 <GreyKnight> 4: http://www.tpub.com/content/explosives/TM-9-1220-246-12P/css/TM-9-1220-246-12P_213.htm
22:48:14 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "#google 01020103".
22:48:29 <GreyKnight> 2: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Jeffrey+Sachs&word2=William+Easterly
22:48:31 <GreyKnight> 3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlefight
22:48:32 <GreyKnight> 4: http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/networking_security/googlefight.html
22:48:33 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "#google fight".
22:48:35 <GreyKnight> strange, it didn't do that before... I must've introduced that bug
22:48:40 <GreyKnight> 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google
22:48:42 <GreyKnight> 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Google
22:48:44 <GreyKnight> 3: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Google_hosting
22:48:45 <GreyKnight> 4: http://dangillmor.typepad.com/dan_gillmor_on_grassroots/2005/02/google_wikipedi.html
22:48:47 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "#google Wikipedia".
22:49:32 <GreyKnight> 2: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/
22:49:34 <GreyKnight> 3: http://www.foxmovies.com/fightclub/
22:49:37 <GreyKnight> ...plus about 10 more results for "fight".
22:50:24 <ihope> http://www.google.com/search?q=
22:50:32 <ihope> http://www.google.com/search?q=http://www.google.com/search?q=
22:51:15 <ihope> http://www.google.com/search?q="http://www.google.com/search?q="
22:52:20 <pikhq> A debugger for BF would be immensely helpful. . .
22:52:27 * pikhq will have to settle for using gdb
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23:00:43 * pikhq is going to pastebin it, and ask for help
23:01:29 <pikhq> http://pastebin.ca/158014 Okay.
23:01:52 <pikhq> Didn't paste right.
23:03:08 <pikhq> http://pastebin.ca/158016
23:04:39 * GreyKnight waits patiently for pastebin to love him
23:05:24 <pikhq> That should be well commented enough that you can have a hope of figuring out what I'm trying to do. . .
23:06:08 <pikhq> If you wish for the equivalent C code, let me know.
23:06:26 <GreyKnight> I don't have pastebin's page loaded yet :'(
23:06:35 <pikhq> I mean, the C code for what's supposed to happen. . .
23:07:10 <GreyKnight> pastebin.ca seems to always do this to me
23:07:40 <pikhq> http://pastebin.ca.nyud.net:8080/158016
23:08:24 <GreyKnight> much faster, although still chugged a bit
23:08:56 <pikhq> GreyKnight: That's just because the Coral Cache needed to cache the page first. . .
23:09:03 <pikhq> GreyKnight: *prod*
23:09:47 <pikhq> GreyKnight: Aaagh. Your nickname is too clsoe to Gregor's.
23:10:47 <GreyKnight> I don't know if you intended this to be side-by-side listings, but it seems to be banjaxed
23:11:38 <pikhq> Um. . . The comments are in psuedo-C. . .
23:12:47 <GreyKnight> I think I can strip out the BF to get the C... sec
23:13:59 <pikhq> http://pastebin.ca.nyud.net:8080/158018 Is the C code that implements what I want.
23:15:18 <pikhq> Don't try stripping out the BF. . . I don't think you realise that the "C" you see isn't actual C code. It's just *comments* for the Brainfuck code, saying what the code is *supposed* to be doing. . . -_-'
23:15:45 <pikhq> Anyone else care to stare at my BF code for a bit?
23:17:16 <GreyKnight> I'm just gonna check that the pseudo-C is right; I'm not experienced enough with BF to check it accurately
23:18:47 <pikhq> According to the comments, at least, it's identical to http://pastebin.ca.nyud.net:8080/158018 . However, according to what happens when I *run* it, it's not.
23:19:46 <pikhq> It's a coral cache link. . .
23:20:12 <GregorR-W> I can get directly to the pastebin.ca versions easy
23:20:33 <pikhq> I was pasting Coral caches for GreyKnight's sake. . .
23:21:08 <GregorR-W> I have no idea what you're trying to do.
23:21:35 <GregorR-W> You're repeating the character the number of times of the next character?
23:22:26 <pikhq> It only decodes RLE for + - > and < (it's meant to do it for Brainfuck code; RLEing anything else doesn't make much sense). . .
23:22:57 <pikhq> Not the C code I'm having issues with.
23:23:07 <pikhq> It's the Brainfuck code I'm having issues with. . .
23:24:30 <pikhq> http://pastebin.ca/158016
23:25:36 <GreyKnight> I'll try checking the BF, see what I can manage
23:26:21 <GregorR-W> When did you ever set temp3 to anything but 0?
23:26:35 <GregorR-W> >-------------------------------------------[
23:26:58 <pikhq> That would cause my main issues with it, then.
23:27:19 <pikhq> Need to do not on that, then. x_x
23:29:59 <GreyKnight> some of these links include debugging capability: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/BF#Implementations
23:30:14 <GregorR-W> The only debugging EgoBF supports is #
23:31:30 <GreyKnight> http://koti.mbnet.fi/villes/php/bf.php
23:31:47 <GreyKnight> this one's even implemented in PHP, so no downloads required \o/
23:32:09 <pikhq> Well, I fixed one bug there.
23:33:49 <GregorR-W> GreyKnight: Yeah, you just get to hammer their server :P
23:34:31 <pikhq> Now to figure out why it isn't doing any output at all.
23:34:42 <GregorR-W> Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /mbnet/v/villes/php/bf.php on line 8
23:35:47 -!- GreyKnight has changed nick to GreyPaladin.
23:37:11 <pikhq> Well, I've got a clue as to why there is a bug.
23:37:27 <pikhq> It seems that all of my conditions in the loop fail.
23:44:38 <pikhq> http://pastebin.ca/158043 More help?
23:45:33 <GregorR-W> <[-]> is unnecessary, you already know it's 0
23:46:29 <GregorR-W> [>-<-][ < this, however, is not correct.
23:46:32 <pikhq> Oh, god. I see where my bug is now.
23:46:34 <GregorR-W> You meant to step back to the right, I believ.
23:47:27 <pikhq> Although I'm curious about why my last condition (if(temp3!=0)) doesn't work, with those loops not being called.
23:49:17 <GregorR-W> I think you're slowly moving left.
23:50:15 <GregorR-W> Put a few #'s in before your >-----...s
23:50:20 <GregorR-W> Make sure you're where you expect to be.
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23:51:35 -!- pikhq_ has changed nick to pikhq.
23:52:39 <pikhq> Now, care to help me by figuring out how the code is moving slowly left?
23:52:44 * pikhq really doesn't see it
23:53:04 <GregorR-W> You're not comparing on the cell you thought you were.
23:53:17 <pikhq> Not in the pastebin, though.
23:53:51 <pikhq> So I was wondering where.
23:53:59 <GregorR-W> You would've been if you didn't have that > there.
23:54:23 <pikhq> Now, to figure out why my if(temp3!=0) bit isn't working. . .
23:54:30 <pikhq> Probably just the wrong cell being tested.
23:54:58 <GregorR-W> Now to figure out wtf happened to GregorR and EgoBot >_O
23:56:43 <GregorR-W> My home sys is down, dobleve te efe.
23:58:02 <GreyPaladin> nearly everyone in the competition seems to be using Brainf**k or Befunge :-|
23:58:10 * pikhq curses some more at this code
23:59:13 <GreyPaladin> One Unlambda, three INTERCALs, and one "Befunge or TheSquare" (which is based on Befunge)
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