00:01:30 <GregorR> It's a stingray zomg its gonna kill the crocodile hunter
00:02:14 <ihope_> And it's going to cause bad humor all over the internets! OH NOEZ!
00:06:50 <pikhq> *Almost* got it working.
00:06:58 <pikhq> Got an issue with the regexps.
00:07:25 <pikhq> Which seem to hate me.
00:08:14 <Razor-X> Use them well, and they will love you. Use them poorly and your skin will be LASHED OFF.
00:08:31 * pikhq is getting his skin *lashed off*.
00:08:42 <ihope_> I think I won't use regexes at all, then.
00:08:44 <Razor-X> I very rarely get regexps wrong. Dunno why.
00:08:51 <pikhq> Got the regexp matching things I don't want in my macro engine. . .
00:09:46 <Razor-X> Regexps is by far my favorite parsing method.
00:09:55 <pikhq> In retrospect, the rough equivalent of s/$varname/\$$varname/ was probably a bad idea.
00:10:12 <pikhq> Especially when you've got a variable named "y" in your macro called "copy".
00:13:28 <pikhq> Except for that little bug in the macro parsing proc, this thing seems to be solid. . .
00:35:24 <pikhq> Now it's more like s/ $varname / \$$varname / s/ $varname/n/ \$$varname/n/
00:35:35 <pikhq> Kludgish? Yeah. Does it work? :)
00:38:20 <fizzie> /\b$varname\b/ is what I'd use.
00:39:15 <pikhq> If it were sed's regexp syntax, then I'd do just that.
00:39:38 <pikhq> Of course, if I knew regexps, I'd do something less kludgish, so. . .
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00:42:22 <fizzie> If you're matching end-of-line in the second one, it should probably be something like "s/ $varname$/ \$$varname/", since '$' is the zero-width "matches at end of line" thing.
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00:42:44 * ihope_ almost types NetHaskell
00:42:46 <fizzie> Of course if you're not using regexps to do the matching, it doesn't much matter. :p
00:42:59 <ihope_> NetHaskell: the best language for programming roguelikes.
00:44:07 <ihope_> NetHack + Haskell = NetHaskell.
00:44:22 <Razor-X> Someone ported Nethack to Haskell?
00:44:29 <fizzie> 10:31:08 <poing> i have more pedestrian aims, like writing nethack in haskell ;P
00:44:34 <fizzie> Says Google on the subject.
00:45:05 <fizzie> (On #haskell in Freenode. Or is that ##?)
00:45:07 * ihope_ ponders the fact that hitting tab puts "GregorR: " in his box thingy
00:45:36 * ihope_ wonders what he's doing in #steve-irwin and #stingray
00:45:54 <ihope_> Or am I not in either of those?
01:14:02 * pikhq finally has stuff working. . .
01:15:17 <pikhq> Unfortunately, my standard macros package is broken.
01:15:42 <Razor-X> T3h b0rb, t3h b0rk, t3h b0rk, b0rk b0rk!
01:16:36 <pikhq> Should I go ahead and make a simple spec to go with the simple compiler?
01:17:27 * pikhq loves his very, very simple way of getting the code parsed. . .
01:17:56 <pikhq> I just set up a Tcl slave interpreter, remove it's builtin commands, and replace them with aliases that compile the macro language's commands.
01:18:03 <pikhq> Let Tcl parse for me.
01:19:00 <ihope_> Thubi might be really good for writing parsers.
01:25:15 <pikhq> http://nickv111.is-a-geek.com:8080/~pikhq/bfm.tar.bz2
01:29:21 <pikhq> Thoughts? Comments? "You're a fucking idiot"?
01:56:29 * pikhq is going to take a guess that nobody has looked yet
02:01:45 <pikhq> Care to explain? :p
02:02:10 <Razor-X> Hmmm... I wonder what control characters GregorR used.
02:02:28 * pikhq is of the opinion that it kicks ass, but. . .
02:03:27 <pikhq> If nothing else, it makes things nicer because one can operate on variables instead of locations in memory.
02:08:28 <pikhq> Someday, when I'm bored enough, I am going to create *and test* a standard BFM library. . .
02:09:41 <Razor-X> Is there some sort of handy control character to find out the number of lines/columns in your terminal?
02:12:03 <Razor-X> I'll use Ncurses for portability.
02:15:23 <deltab> you can move the cursor into the bottom right corner, then use Cursor Position Report to find out where it is
02:20:33 <Razor-X> Is there a character to move it to the bottom right corner?
02:31:15 <deltab> a character, no, but there is a control sequence
02:31:48 * deltab pulls out a copy of ECMA-48
02:33:11 <deltab> CUP with suitably large values
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04:06:30 <pikhq> http://nickv111.is-a-geek.com:8080/~pikhq/bfm.tar.bz2 Shameless plugging. Wheee.
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04:59:05 <Razor-X> I wonder if anyone tried to use multiple channels with RawIRC.
05:34:06 <Razor-X> 'Tis cool. Chicken has low-level constructs too.
05:34:22 <Razor-X> ...Although I can't really find a use for a pointer in Scheme, except in a BF interpreter.
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08:25:27 <Razor-X> So if you get a ``NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back'' from an IRC server, is everything after ``NOTICE '' considered the parameter?
08:26:54 <fizzie> The parameters are separated by spaces, except that the last parameter may be prefixed by a ":", and then it runs to the end of line.
08:27:08 <fizzie> So in your example there are two parameters, "AUTH" and "*** Found ...".
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16:54:56 <GregorR-W> Right, this beauuuuuuuuutiful stingray is usually totally harmless to humans.
16:55:04 <GregorR-W> But if provoked, its sting can be fatal!
16:55:09 <GregorR-W> So I'm going to poke it with a stick!
16:55:16 <GregorR-W> HEY STINGRAY! HEEEEEEEEEY STI--AUGGGH
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17:17:04 <GregorR-W> Yeah, runlevel randomly and unpredictably dropping, woooh
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19:13:48 <pikhq> gregor$ rm -rf ~/pron
19:14:54 <pikhq> If that doesn't work, then I'll accuse you of being a prude.
19:17:14 <GregorR-W> Pff, that directory doesn't exist.
19:19:22 <pikhq> if {![file exist ~/pron]} {set Gregor $prude}
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19:32:26 <GregorR-W> So wait, being able to spell == prude? :P
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23:00:05 <pikhq> GregorR-W: Yes, spelling ability equates to prudeness.
23:09:44 <GregorR-W> Your female parent or guardian is obese to the degree that it is necessary for her to wear clothing as much as five sizes larger than the average for her height, age and gender categories!
23:09:49 <GregorR-W> Oooooooooooooooooooooh, what now bizzich
23:10:25 <pikhq> My female *stepparent* is, however.
23:10:58 <pikhq> She's not my guardian, she's a person that I want to hit over the head with a fuckin' baseball bat.
23:11:06 * pikhq lives with his biological mother. . .
23:12:51 <ihope> So a stepparent is a parent's spouse who is not a parent?
23:13:31 <pikhq> Yeah, that's normally what it means. . .
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23:14:46 <GregorR-W> Generally it also implies that the marriage happened before the child was 18.
23:16:28 <ihope> What if your parents are married, then your mother dies and your father gets married, then your father dies and your stepmother gets married?
23:16:59 <pikhq> Then she's still your stepmother, I believe. . .
23:17:22 <pikhq> She is also just the same as your actual parent towards the law.
23:17:31 <ihope> What about the person your stepmother married?
23:17:40 <ihope> Is he your stepfather, or your stepstepfather, or what?
23:17:44 <pikhq> Stepfather, I *think*.
23:18:12 * pikhq votes for a much less arbitrary way of stating family relationships
23:18:24 <pikhq> Maybe a simple GED file? :p
23:19:04 <ihope> Nah, we need notation.
23:19:20 <pikhq> A GED file *is* notation. . .
23:19:30 <pikhq> It's quite nonvague.
23:19:42 <pikhq> In fact, it's sufficient for plotting a full family tree.
23:20:11 <pikhq> It's sufficient for the fuckin' *Mormons* and their polygamy. I *think* it can handle such relatively simple relationship issue. :p
23:21:20 <ihope> F means father, M means mother, S means last spouse, C means last child.
23:21:33 <ihope> PS is second-to-last spouse, PPS is third-to-last spouse, etc.
23:21:40 <ihope> Likewise for PC, PPC, etc.
23:22:07 <pikhq> You've come up with a compressed form of GED, I believe.
23:22:14 <ihope> Then E is "me" or something.
23:22:39 <GregorR-W> That way you can have more children without rearranging the whole F'ing thing.
23:22:40 <ihope> So I'm E, my dad is FE, his dad is FFE...
23:23:01 <ihope> Okay. C means first child, but S is still last spouse?
23:23:21 <ihope> Okay, they're both first.
23:23:29 <ihope> Then I is a conditional.
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23:23:55 <pikhq> Trying to make a Turing complete notation for family relations?
23:24:08 <ihope> ICE12 means "if I have a child, then 1, else 2".
23:24:25 <ihope> And no, this notation won't support recursion.
23:24:52 <ihope> So I123 means if 1 exists then 2 else 3.
23:25:16 <ihope> If I have a father, then me, else _?
23:25:26 <pikhq> Supposed to represent null.
23:25:36 <pikhq> "If I have a father, then me, else nothing."
23:28:14 <ihope> But couldn't we call it N?
23:28:36 <pikhq> Stating, simply, that one cannot exist without a father.
23:28:54 <pikhq> I assume the arguments for this could be grouped to allow for non-vagueness?
23:29:06 <pikhq> I(FE,ME)EN, for example?
23:29:54 <ihope> If I have a mother and a father then me else nothing?
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23:30:40 <ihope> If I have if-I-have-a-father-then-my-mother-else-nothing then me else nothing.
23:33:52 <ihope> It has an expressiveness corresponding to the ordinal number omega!
23:39:41 <pikhq> macro foo {bar baz} {while baz {add bar 1;subtract baz 1}};@ foo 1;@ bar 0;add foo 50;add bar 20;foo foo bar
23:40:59 <pikhq> . . . Is equivalent to: >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<++++++++++++++++++++[>+<-]
23:43:00 <pikhq> Terrible coding, I admit. It *does* work, though.