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01:50:59 <ihope> Something about ._O being the new >_O.
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02:14:14 <Sgeo> Anyways, night all
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02:16:27 <GreyKnight> Sgeo never says anything except goodbye :-\
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03:05:39 <Razor-X> I have to give credit to the AP people, all their code is GPLed.
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03:06:04 <Razor-X> ``Many students avoid the Case Study because it appears too complex.'' <-- write any program that has decent functionality in the real world, and I'll bet it'll beat the complexity of this stupid case study out of the water.
03:06:24 <Razor-X> Feh, write a BF interpreter and it'll make the case study look like child's play.
03:07:02 <pikhq> What *is* the "case study", anyways?
03:08:36 <pikhq> GreyKnight: Using three functions.
03:09:09 <pikhq> printf("Hello, ");
03:09:12 <Razor-X> pikhq: It's a case study of marine biology.
03:09:23 <pikhq> printf("World!\n");
03:09:23 <Razor-X> It seems that a vast majority of the test is based on code from this simulation.
03:09:48 <GreyKnight> Silly pikhq, you need at *least* 11 functions!
03:10:18 <pikhq> GreyKnight: One for each character?
03:10:35 <pikhq> Sounds like "Hello, World" in BFM. :p
03:11:53 <Razor-X> 'Though the advanced OOP is a bit hard to follow for me since I rarely use OOP. I need to read more on Java OOP.
03:13:47 <Razor-X> What do you think the AP Computer Science tests use? C?
03:14:46 <Razor-X> I doubt they'd introduce little mindless CS acolytes to the concepts of functional languages either (except some tail-recursion).
03:16:04 <GreyKnight> and to teach that all Lisp languages are the devil, judging from some conversations I've had
03:17:03 <Razor-X> Well, my friends in AP CS already think so because they were forced to learn car and cdr for some other test.
03:17:35 <Razor-X> Which I still can't see the difficulty in, but I guess I've had exposure with these things.
03:20:35 <Razor-X> I still can't get over the fact that exceptions are considered advanced concepts :D.
03:21:56 <GreyKnight> How hard is it to explain the concept of "give up" :-?
03:23:22 <deltab> exceptions as the ejector seats of programming
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20:37:36 <pgimeno> wow, there's a guy called Ghastly who actually sings the whole 99bob song (I downloaded it from P2P), it takes him almost 19 minutes
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21:41:16 <GregorR-W> Yeah, I guess that sounds about right actually :P
21:41:23 <GregorR-W> Only takes about 8 seconds to sing one lyric.
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22:53:00 * pikhq can make his computer sing it in less. . . :p
23:06:51 <calamari> probably pretty hard to make a computer sing :)
23:09:47 <pikhq> I'll do it. . . In Brainfuck!
23:13:46 <calamari> hehe that just gave me a horrible idea
23:14:25 <pikhq> macro soundmanagement {args}? :p
23:14:27 <calamari> could cheat and record it then encode the samples in bf
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23:14:49 <calamari> question becomes: how do I use /dev/dsp?
23:15:36 <calamari> wonder what rate it is playing at, stereo, mono, 16/8 bit etc
23:15:59 <pikhq> It's stereo 16 bit PCM, I believe.
23:19:46 <calamari> a 44359 byte file played back for approx 5 seconds
23:20:01 <calamari> that'd be over in less than a second with those settings
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23:22:41 <pikhq> Look up the OSS specs.
23:22:45 <calamari> ahh here we go.. 44359/5.629s=7880,440576.. pretty close to 8000
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23:27:04 <fizzie> That would be correct.
23:28:01 <fizzie> At least if it's the OSS (or ALSA's OSS emulation) /dev/dsp.
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23:28:19 <fizzie> But you can poke at it with ioctls to change the rate, of course.
23:28:42 <fizzie> Well, 8000 Hz should be enough for everyone.
23:29:00 <pikhq> calamari: Thought you were the one who made EsoAPI. . . :p
23:29:04 <fizzie> You get 4 kHz tones, after all. That's something like a quarter of the hearing range.
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