00:00:44 <oklokok> hmm... how do i see whether someone is identified again?
00:00:50 <oklokok> it'll say that in the whois i guess
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00:07:46 <oklokok> you could have the cmd there or smth
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00:43:45 <mudge> what's your esoteric programming language?
00:44:39 <oklokok> the very question is faulty.
00:45:50 <mudge> oh boy, why's that?
00:45:59 <mudge> are we getting esoteric here?
00:46:09 <oklokok> was it targeted to all userlist?
00:46:53 <oklokok> actually, the answer to your question would be nil, there is not esolang we've made collaboratively
00:46:55 <mudge> but I think you're the only one listening so it is targeted specifically to you,
00:47:19 <mudge> so you know how to write compilers?
00:47:27 <oklokok> i've written interpreters.
00:47:50 <mudge> what programming languages do you know?
00:48:03 <mudge> i'm talking to you
00:48:33 <oklokok> i know the names of about a hundred, i guess, i can program in about 15 with google, with about 5 without it
00:48:35 <mudge> well, i guess are familiar with, have at least done some programming in, and is familiar with the syntax and some sematics
00:49:00 <oklokok> i *can* program in many languages i've never programmed in :)
00:49:19 <mudge> have you programmed in Haskell?
00:49:20 <oklokok> i actually knew scheme quite well before dling an interpreter
00:49:40 <oklokok> i can't make hello world, though
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00:49:53 <mudge> do you have a website or blog?
00:50:14 <Sgeo> Hi mudge, hi all
00:50:36 <mudge> what do you do Sgeo?
00:50:43 <oklokok> www.vjn.fi/oklopol may be somewhat of a webpage
00:50:56 <oklokok> that has pretty random content
00:51:09 <oklokok> but it has the thue interpreter, actually
00:51:42 <mudge> for like a living or hobby or whatever
00:51:43 <oklokok> that's the only program i've written in haskell, so it's not that pretty semantically, i assume :)
00:51:48 <oklokok> hope you don't know haskell
00:52:06 <mudge> I'm learning haskell
00:52:12 <oklokok> mudge: because i'm sure that sucks.
00:53:07 <mudge> as long as it is not your main programming language you know really well and have been programming in continuously for years, it's OKAY
00:53:27 <mudge> today I wrote a little tutorial that explains currying in haskell
00:56:24 <mudge> yea, I thought not
00:56:30 <mudge> what do you do pikhq
00:56:52 <pikhq> I code in Tcl, Brainfuck, C, C++, and design esoteric languages for fun.
00:57:10 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
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00:57:22 <mudge> what is Brainfuck?
00:57:32 <pikhq> oklokok: This channel *has* made its own esoteric language. . .
00:57:45 <oklokok> !bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.+..-.
00:57:59 <pikhq> http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Adjudicated_Blind_Collaborative_Design_Esolang_Factory
00:58:18 * Sgeo contributed to that >.>
01:00:41 <oklokok> i didn't know about that, then again i haven't been here for that long
01:00:42 <mudge> anyone want to give me some feedback on a really short tutorial I wrote about currying in Haskell?
01:00:49 <oklokok> for a week, maybe, or a year
01:00:52 <mudge> http://www.nickmudge.info/?post=42
01:04:07 <mudge> you guys ever do any web programming?
01:05:35 <pikhq> Sgeo: So did I. :)
01:06:52 <oklokok> mudge: hard to tell you if that explains currying to someone who doesn't know the concept already, since i did
01:08:09 <mudge> okay, thanks for taking a look at it
01:08:42 <oklokok> i read pretty much anything people paste here :)
01:09:01 <pikhq> I could *express* it. . . /x./y.x
01:09:32 <ololobot> ``s``s`ks``s``s`ks``s`kk`k+``s`kk`k ``s`kk`ky
01:09:47 <oklokok> ...that's one crappy pointlessicator.
01:10:02 <ololobot> ``s``s`ks``s``s`ks``s`kk`k+``s`kki`ki
01:11:04 <mudge> i can express it: add x = \y -> x + y
01:11:44 <mudge> nice meeting you you oklokok and pikhq
01:12:42 <oklokok> >>> numbda add={y->{x->x+y}}
01:12:49 <oklokok> >>> numbda add={y->{x->x+y}};add!1!3
01:13:14 <oklokok> (someday i'll make numbda a scoping xD)
01:15:12 <oklokok> >>> numbda add={y->{x->x+y}};add!1
01:15:12 <ololobot> lazy:[apply opr:-> to id:x(2) and [apply opr:+ to id:x(2) and id:y(1)]]
01:19:17 <c|p> i guess my script got triggered a few times
01:21:11 <oklokok> make it what?->WHAT? rather
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02:09:32 * Figs mumbles something about a song...
02:09:37 <Figs> it's 6 pm here :P
02:10:16 <oklokok> i don't really have any free time for about a month...
02:10:28 <oklokok> this is all theory, of course, i've been idling for the last 4 hours.
02:10:45 <oklokok> but there's no free time i can afford.
02:11:11 <oklokok> gotta read some 12 books and do a lot of exercises
02:12:52 <oklokok> i haven't even really been ircing for a few hours, just staring at the screen
02:13:40 <oklokok> >>> numbda a={a->a!4};a!{a->a+1}
02:14:47 <oklokok> you'd think it'd break down at that
02:16:00 <Figs> just say you ain't gonna do it, and I'll stop bugging you about it ^_^
02:16:28 <Figs> otherwise I'll keep bugging you ^_^
02:16:37 <oklokok> i'd have to admit it to myself before i'd have any chance at admitting it to you.
02:16:49 <oklokok> i don't see any chance of that happening
02:16:52 <Figs> I'll keep bugging you then
02:17:16 <oklokok> please do, i might actually remember it if constantly reminded
02:17:38 <Figs> so have you played it yet? :D
02:17:47 * Figs reminds you again ... just for the humor
02:17:58 <Figs> anyway, what's up?
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02:18:14 <oklokok> i have a course where i have to read 8 books
02:18:28 <Figs> I have like 80 million projects
02:18:28 <oklokok> read one yesterday and one the day before that
02:18:48 <Figs> well, you're making progress :D
02:18:59 <Figs> I have no idea how to finish building these things
02:19:08 <oklokok> i didn't read much today, 43 pages of swedish grammar
02:19:16 <oklokok> i'll have to catch up tomorrow
02:19:33 <oklokok> (or today actually, since it's 4:17)
02:21:11 <Figs> hi RodgerTheGreat
02:21:14 <oklokok> i shouldn't've remembered numbda, now i can't do anything tomorrow without fixing it first :<
02:21:19 <Figs> or is that Goodbye?
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02:22:28 <oklokok> i don't know esperanto, but i don't think it's as good as lojban
02:22:54 <oklokok> lojban isn't built by making natural languages regular
02:23:08 <Figs> Kiel vi (fartas)?
02:23:23 <Figs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
02:25:12 <oklokok> http://vjn.fi/s/$anasto.txt
02:25:22 <oklokok> wish volimo would make a tutorial soon
02:25:55 <oklokok> a conlang by a friend of mine
02:26:07 <oklokok> owns esperanto by a long shot
02:26:48 <oklokok> (i have no idea if that's true, but you gotta praise stuff ppl you know have done)
02:27:03 <Figs> you see the guide to making conlangs?
02:27:15 <Figs> lemme see if I can find it again...
02:28:06 <Figs> http://www.zompist.com/kit.html
02:30:04 <Figs> I found this years ago
02:30:07 <Figs> apparently it's still up
02:30:14 <oklokok> i'm pretty sure i've seen it before
02:30:16 <Figs> "The Language Construction Kit is © 1996 by Mark Rosenfelder."
02:30:21 <Figs> gives you an idea...
02:30:33 <Figs> I'm trying to say, I doubt it'll go anywhere ;)
02:30:44 <oklokok> luckily conlang creation doesn't get old :)
02:30:50 <Figs> seeing as it's been around for 11 years
02:31:53 <oklokok> i actually had an idea for a conlang of my own just todea
02:33:15 <oklokok> actually it was an idea for how to start making one :)
02:33:36 <oklokok> which isn't really that interesting, so forget that
02:33:50 <oklokok> god i like doing meaningless stuff with that
02:34:22 <oklokok> oklotalk-style type convention
02:34:42 <oklokok> well, actually in numbda it's not just a convention, but integrated in the language
02:35:03 <Figs> >>> numbda 4//4
02:35:18 <Figs> >>> numbda "44" + 2
02:35:38 <Figs> just wanted to see what your bot would do on random input
02:36:07 <oklokok> don't know why that didn't output one
02:36:29 <ololobot> error:no-such-variable:sdf(-1)
02:36:41 <ololobot> error:syntax:multiple-adjacent-objokens
02:36:46 <ololobot> error:syntax:operator-should-not-end-expression
02:37:07 <ololobot> error:syntax:multiple-adjacent-objokens
02:37:44 <oklokok> how many languages do you know where a parsing error doesn't prevent evaluation?
02:38:23 <oklokok> >>> numbda 5+(i guess this could be a comment or smth)+4
02:38:36 <Figs> >>> bf ~++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
02:38:44 <oklokok> in BF, non-bf characters aren't exactly errors.
02:38:49 <oklokok> they are allowed by the spec
02:39:17 <ololobot> error:syntax:multiple-adjacent-objokens
02:39:20 <ololobot> error:syntax:multiple-adjacent-objokens
02:39:25 <ololobot> error:syntax:multiple-adjacent-objokens
02:39:27 <ololobot> error:syntax:multiple-adjacent-objokens
02:39:53 <pikhq> Bot's broken; it doesn't warn on mismatched brackets.
02:40:15 <oklokok> bf *doesn't* evaluate borked code
02:40:24 <oklokok> pikhq: it has no error output
02:42:37 <oklokok> guess i should make a better one.
02:44:44 <Figs> it's funny how many people online ask "what's a wanker?" O_o
02:45:43 <Figs> random forum people
02:45:50 <Figs> people in other chat rooms
02:46:13 <Figs> any time UK English comes up
02:46:15 <oklokok> i hate python, everything works without any debugging
02:49:18 <oklokok> i doubt any american over 15 yo. can have missed that word
02:49:28 <oklokok> everyone knows it in finland.
02:49:38 <Figs> It's not used much in the US
02:49:47 <oklokok> it's not used *ever* in finland.
02:50:16 <oklokok> hmm... we might see more british broadcast than you
02:51:11 * Figs bashes oklokok on the head with a rock and sees if he sleeps better...
02:51:31 <oklokok> the old rock-in-the-head is always welcome
02:51:38 <Figs> concentrate on not concentrating on anything
02:51:41 <oklokok> god the fan is hurting my eyes
04:24:29 <Figs> An excerpt from brilliant Kentucky state legislation. "No female shall appear in a bathing suit on any highway within this state unless she be escorted by at least two officers or unless she be armed with a club".
04:24:29 <Figs> The following important amendment however is to be considered here: "The provisions of this statute shall not apply to females weighing less than 90 pounds nor exceeding 200 pounds, nor shall it apply to male horses."
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12:59:44 <KajirBot> thanks :) but have you got chicken?
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14:44:29 <KajirBot> feed, help, kill, ps, q, reload
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15:16:14 <KajirBot> date|time, feed, help, kill, ps, q
15:16:37 <ehird`> ok, question: .date or .time ;p
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15:36:19 <KajirBot> Right now, it is 2007-35-08/19/07 15:08
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15:36:53 <ehird`> idea: negaquaternary machine ;)
15:36:55 <KajirBot> Right now, it is 2007-36-19 15:08 GMT
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15:37:30 <KajirBot> Right now, it is 2007-08-19 15:36 GMT
15:37:37 <ehird`> Right now, it is 2007-08-19, 15:36 GMT
15:37:40 <ehird`> Right now, it is 2007-08-19, 15:36 (GMT)
15:37:43 <ehird`> Right now, it is 2007-08-19 15:36 (GMT)
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15:38:37 <KajirBot> Right now, it is 2007-08-19, 15:37 GMT
15:53:22 <KajirBot> Displays the current date and time.
15:53:43 <ehird`> .q Do you think that the time is 15:52?
15:53:44 <KajirBot> Do I think that the time is 15:52?
15:53:47 <KajirBot> Right now, it is 2007-08-19, 15:52 GMT
16:46:40 <oklokok> i have no idea what to add
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17:11:00 <ehird`> when did you last see blahbot around
17:11:49 <oklokok> clog is there for situations like this :)
17:12:01 <oklokok> although it might only log esoteric conversations.
17:16:51 <ehird`> quit, eval, ps, kill, cmds, help, reload, join, part, send, topic, raw, bf, parse, reduce, wapr (use %help for argument information)
17:18:12 <ehird`> wapr is Jumping to -1 is exciting
17:18:22 <ehird`> reduce is a very broken lambdacalculus reduction command
17:18:31 <ehird`> parse echoes the BF code you give it, it was to check my parser was ok
17:23:41 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
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17:23:57 <EgoBot> Use: i <pid> <input> Function: send input to a process
17:24:11 <ehird`> is that like... used for brainfuck?
17:24:52 <oerjan> although daemons are usually more convenient
17:25:09 <ehird`> i just sent info to a bf process
17:26:42 <ehird`> i'm going to implement that
17:26:47 <ehird`> i am going to play Enimga
17:26:52 <ehird`> because i just remembered that game
17:27:00 <ehird`> from these logs: http://ircbrowse.com/channel/esoteric/20061206
17:27:04 <ehird`> it's an opensource puzzle game thing
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17:30:01 <oklokok> i'm pretty sure that's the log i was reading when i decided to peek in on this chan for the first time
17:30:05 <ehird`> you guide a little ball around with your mouse and have to avoid traps and smash oxyd stones to turn on lights
17:30:50 <oklokok> "<lament> he used to hang out here but sadly disappeared :(" <<< i read this line and though why am i not hanging out there
17:31:23 <ehird`> i've only been in here, how long?
17:32:04 <oklokok> i have no idea how long i've been here
17:32:29 <ehird`> so not earlier than then
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17:53:57 <oklokok> >>> numbda va=4;fb={a->va+a};fc={a->fb!a};fc!7
17:54:06 <ehird`> that looks like oklotalk
17:54:32 <oklokok> that's numbda, it's very different, just similar lambda syntax
17:54:43 <oklokok> actually, even that isn't that close
17:55:11 <oerjan> almost, but not entirely unlike oklotalk?
17:55:49 <oklokok> it's similar in that it *is* a programming language: )
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17:56:34 <oklokok> i'm trying to fixify it now, so it's tc
17:57:08 <oklokok> it looks like it's tc now, but if recursed, it's fuck up
17:57:37 <oklokok> i love it how my typoes always look like borked english
17:57:51 <ehird`> how do i do a conditional?
17:58:17 <oklokok> you do conditional with high-order functions
17:58:23 <oklokok> which i haven't written yet
17:58:29 <ehird`> i was going to try factorial
17:58:52 <oklokok> you can't recurse, but you can do trivial formulas of course
17:59:20 <oklokok> well, you couldn't recurse anyway without any branching :P
18:01:24 <ehird`> i want to add a game of some sorts to KajirBot
18:02:04 <oklokok> bah, i would have to make lists first... this isn't a 10 min job i'm afraid...
18:02:34 <oklokok> all functions take 1 argument, and the primitive functions do not curry
18:03:04 <ehird`> oklokok: make them curry
18:03:43 <oklokok> if!cond!then!else is one possibility
18:08:08 <ololobot> Scheme interpreter-to-be. This is a reminder to oklopol.
18:08:28 <oklokok> some day i'll do something...
18:08:56 <oklokok> i'll go read some swedish grammar, hf and such ->
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19:41:27 * pikhq goes for cond?then:else
19:49:43 <oklokok> hmm... so "?" check larg's bool value and creates on "true", a function that takes two args curried, and evaluates the first, discards the next, and on "false", a function that discards first and evaluates second, both these functions take 2 functions as args, where the functions are "then" and "else". it then gives that function "else" as arg. ":" is a synonym for "!", or function application, but it has a lower precedence.
19:49:55 <oklokok> guess that's how i'll do it.
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19:50:16 <ehird`> pikhq: what do you think an esoteric bot needs?
19:50:20 <ehird`> oklokok: : being synonym for !
19:50:30 <ehird`> pikhq: like, what language priority? and what extra features?
19:50:52 <oklokok> ehird`: tell me a better way to do it.
19:51:24 <oklokok> no, i won't add trinary operators in the language, that'd be stupid
19:51:38 <ehird`> oklokok: just don't haev :
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19:52:07 <oklokok> that has the highest precedence
19:52:33 <oklokok> well, highest right after ".", but that doesn't exist yet
19:53:18 <oklokok> : could of course be used to make lists
19:53:34 <oklokok> then ? would function more clearly
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19:54:03 <oklokok> but i kinda liked that hack, because it'd be the C ?:-function, but you could rape it if you knew what it *actually* meant :)
19:54:35 <pikhq> ehird`: It needs to support everything EgoBot does.
19:54:45 <ehird`> pikhq: Yes, but I mean the highest priority ones
19:54:49 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
19:54:51 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
19:55:04 <pikhq> Brainfuck, glass, lambda, unlambda. . .
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19:58:32 <ehird`> fuck you[end of output]
19:58:55 <ehird`> pikhq: How flexible should BF be?
19:59:02 <ehird`> Do i really need all 8,16,32,64?
19:59:16 <ehird`> error: you are an idiot
20:00:48 <ehird`> this is not your personal irp playground
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20:01:35 <ehird`> i'm going to use an external interp
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20:02:13 <oklokok> i'll add wrapping to mine, i think it's bignum now
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20:06:38 <oklokok> this just cannot work right away
20:07:09 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
20:07:53 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
20:08:07 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
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20:08:17 <ololobot> These are all the cmds currently in ololobot:
20:08:17 <ololobot> bf, bs, expr, help, numbda, pl, ul, dict, feed, sch
20:08:44 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
20:08:59 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
20:09:38 <ololobot> -> [['i', ('s', 'i', 'i')], ['i', ('s', 'i', 'i')]]
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20:10:27 <pikhq> oklokok: Just do a wrapper around egobfi.
20:10:48 <oklokok> ```sii``sii <<< should be an infinite loop right?
20:10:55 <oklokok> pikhq: what would that accomplish?
20:11:19 <pikhq> Easy to get 8 bit, 16 bit, etc. cells.
20:11:51 <oklokok> pikhq: what would that accomplish?
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20:12:18 <oklokok> ```s.i.i``s.i.i <<< should be an infinite loop right?
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20:12:54 <oklokok> >>> bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
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20:13:34 <oklokok> >>> bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
20:14:01 <oklokok> >>> bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
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20:14:21 <ololobot> These are all the cmds currently in ololobot:
20:14:21 <ololobot> bf, bs, expr, help, numbda, pl, ul, dict, feed, sch
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20:15:28 <oklokok> now work or be erased source-wise.
20:15:30 <oklokok> >>> bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
20:16:03 <oklokok> >>> bff ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
20:17:01 <oklokok> >>> bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
20:17:10 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
20:17:15 <oklokok> >>> bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
20:17:37 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
20:18:25 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
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20:18:56 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
20:19:14 <oklokok> >>> bf W70++++++++[>++++++++<-]>++.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.
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20:20:01 <oklokok> i made a programming error... i thought i'd grown past that (:P)
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20:25:27 <raldi_> Could someone increment the accumulator?
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20:25:42 <torpor> please someone tell someone else something
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20:30:45 <acad> Could someone please land the space shuttle?
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20:32:14 <gwern> Please, could someone print to the channel an integer that disproves the Goldback conjecture?
20:32:18 <raldi_> acad: please submit that with a & at the end, or else nobody else can make any requests until it's done
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20:34:15 <r2q2> Please list the first 20 primes?
20:35:07 <littlebayer> r2q2: 1' 2' 3' 4' 5' 6' 7' 8' 9' 10' 11' 12' 13' 14' 15' 16'17' 18' 19' 20'
20:37:16 <NMajik> Ew, that didn't make sense...
20:37:53 <oklokok> the irpquistadors have arrived
20:37:54 <gwern> someone needs to patch NMajik - goldbach's conjecture is for even integers bigger than 2...
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20:39:02 <r2q2> Please someone write the hyperfactorial of 5.
20:40:28 <oklokok> i hoped it'd mean 1^2^3^4^5
20:41:18 <gwern> hyperfactorial 5 is actually more in the thousands range
20:41:36 <oklokok> >>> expr 1*2**2*3**3*4**4*5**5
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20:41:54 <oklokok> >>> expr 1*(2**2)*(3**3)*(4**4)*(5**5)
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20:43:00 <r2q2> Thank you IRP people.
20:43:54 <r2q2> I am a well of cum??? EWW.
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20:46:37 <r2q2> Wait. Welcome.
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20:51:19 <shing`> Please, someone tell me if IRP is still around?
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20:55:04 <p3k> Please somebody write Graham's Number.
20:57:11 <oklokok> why don't you irpers pair up?
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20:58:40 <shing`> G = F64(4) where f(n) = hyper(3, n+2, 3) and hyper() is the hyper operator.
20:59:31 <zecrose> Please calculate 25 digits of Pi.
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21:01:08 <oklokok> i only know it in base 78.53
21:02:54 <oklokok> i can't say it, saying those digits would make me vaporize, it's this curse from when i was missionary in hungary
21:03:22 <oerjan> don't believe him, it's because he's a vampire
21:03:38 <zecrose> is there a patch for the bug?
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21:04:22 <oerjan> zecrose: well if you are will to put a high enough stake in the problem...
21:04:36 <oklokok> zecrose: yes, the holy well of cum, but it can only be found via /whois, and even then only if you are a virgin and wearing pantyhose.
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21:05:16 <oklokok> (i vaguely recall seeing that condition on freenode's webpage)
21:05:53 <zecrose> i see, this bug is critical. The interpreter is spewing out gibberish!
21:06:36 <oklokok> also, the interpreter should be reading its bookz ->
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21:10:44 <Roge> Please say "Hello, World!"
21:11:37 <Roge> this is a joke right
21:12:26 <Roge> porn located --> http://www.teeniemovies.com
21:12:34 * oerjan wonders where the new influx of IRPers is coming from
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21:13:14 <anborn> oerjan, #esoteric got to the main page of reddit
21:13:16 <lament> hi, please send me naked photos of your female family members under 25!
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21:13:47 <Roge> lament's request not found
21:14:41 <lament> i suppose it's good that it gives exposure to the esolang wiki
21:14:51 <lament> people might click on the links and read other articles
21:15:12 <ramza3> Please, some one write the first 16 numbers of the Fibonacci Sequence.
21:15:47 <MrMatriX> the first 16 numbers of the Fibonacci Sequence.
21:15:56 <lament> 610 377 233 144 89 55 34 21 13 8 5 3 2 1 1 0
21:16:19 <Roge> class Program { Console.WriteLine("please enter your name"); string name = Console.ReadLine(); Console.Writeline(name);}
21:17:20 <lament> the beauty is stunning
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21:17:49 <oerjan> but our wiki is unstable on the best of days, this is sure to crash it
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21:24:40 <Gurami> Please evaluate e^(i * Ο ) + 1
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21:27:22 <lament> oerjan: how about putting a temporary banner on the IRP page encouraging the users to visit at least the main page?
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21:27:57 <lament> do you think that's a good idea
21:28:00 <Gurami> please evaluate β(2^(-n)) for n=0 to β.
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21:29:14 <wkh> Please output 1 if it is possible to reverse entropy and 0 if it is not possible.
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21:29:35 <lament> 13:28 <wkh> Please output 1 if it is possible to reverse entropy and 0 if it is not possible.
21:30:01 <oerjan> lament: hey it was you who requested a time machine
21:30:12 <lament> no, i requested naked pictures
21:30:26 <Gurami> Please provide naked pictures, preferably not ASCII art
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21:31:39 <Gurami> Please propose a solution to the iraq war! (muhahahhaahha)
21:32:33 <Gurami> Please propose a non-repulsive solution to the iraq war.. bleach.
21:33:11 <lament> Move all Iraqis to an alternate universe.
21:33:20 <wkh> Error: Cannot output solution without bringing scary Secret Service men to the door who "investigate these things very thoroughly" and don't care if I was "just joking."
21:33:55 <Manos> Accept Iraq as the 51st state in the Union.
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21:34:16 <Gurami> I believe that'd be ERROR NO.48720, OPPRESSIVE EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATION ERROR.
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21:45:33 <Eidolos> GregorR: you've created a monster!
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21:46:16 <Gurami> Can someone suggest a 4 letter word for "Soho so long" ?
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21:49:21 <oklokok> what's the user peak on this chan?
21:49:56 <lament> somebody could write a log parser...
21:49:58 <dmwit> Well... at least 41.
21:50:11 <Gurami> Can someone tell me an AACS encryption key?
21:51:26 <HoopyCat> gurami: 01 23 45 67 89 AB CD EF 01 23 45 67 89 AB CD EF
21:51:32 <Yst> Difficulty: IRP is not a single interpreter, but rather a collection of interpreters running in parallel. The request "Can someone tell me an AACS encryption key" cannot be evaluated, as it necessitates that any given one interpreter analyse the relative ability of interpreters as a whole to produce an output to the query.
21:52:01 <Gurami> and technically correct
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21:52:49 <Gurami> can someone estimate the speed in FLOPS that this collective interpreter has, as a function of interpreters in the room?
21:53:35 <wkh> Please find two distinct byte sequences of length >= 1048576 with identical MD5 hashes
21:54:15 <dmwit> They're over there! On the floor.
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21:55:15 <r2q2> Gurami: 10^16 calculations per second per person in the room
21:55:20 <theLucas> Please stop being a super douche.
21:55:27 <theLucas> Please have cybersex with Hoopycat.
21:55:36 <ramza3> ~exec sys.stdout([math.pi % math.exp(1), math.pi - math.exp(1))
21:55:47 <ramza3> ~exec sys.stdout(math.exp(math.pi)-math.pi)
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21:56:02 <r2q2> theLucas: Please STFU.
21:56:03 <Odiumjunkie> Could someone please demonstrate a failing in IRP?
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21:56:40 <r2q2> Have you people been getting a lot of people using IRP since the posting on reddit?
21:56:51 <ramza3> I came from the reddit post, so far not impressed
21:56:52 <fmota> I bet that's what this is.
21:56:53 <lament> r2q2: Yes. And the joke is two years old.
21:57:24 <fmota> I had seen IRP before, just never been on #esoteric before.
21:57:27 <SDr> please tell me the meaning of life
21:57:46 <SDr> please tell me the meaning of life, which is not 42
21:57:58 <r2q2> Anyone use unlambda?
21:58:18 <Gurami> SDr: To find and make happiness
21:58:32 <SDr> please tell me the meaning of life, which is not 42, or gay
21:58:36 <lament> r2q2: oerjan did a bunch of things with it, but he just left
21:58:40 <Gurami> SDr: To not be a douche
21:58:49 <fmota> sDr: ++++++[>+++++++<-]>
21:58:56 <SnakeO> Please, what is the conversion rate from "times back and fourth to the moon" to "times around the earth"
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21:59:08 <oklokok> >>> ul `.f`.r`.o`.m`. `.t`.i`.m`.e`. `.t`.o`. `.t`.i`.m.e
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21:59:26 <r2q2> lament: Aren't you also in #lisp?
21:59:43 <oklokok> >>> ul ````````````````.f.r.o.m. .t.i.m.e. .t.o. .t.i.m.e
21:59:43 <lament> r2q2: no, they banned me :)
21:59:47 <Gurami> SnakeO: Please clarify: The moon's orbit is not circular, therefore the answer to your question is not discrete.
22:00:30 <fmota> SDr: please stop being a douche to gay people.
22:00:52 <SnakeO> To clarify: I am talking about distance from the earth's center to the moon's center comparitive to the circumference of the earth
22:01:13 <HoopyCat> i'm going to go with a round-trip to the moon being 'bout 19.22 circumnavigations of the earth around the roundy bit
22:01:29 <Gurami> SnakeO: The distance from the earth's center to the moon's center is not constant. The moon's orbit is not a circle.
22:01:43 <SnakeO> Guriami: I am content with a yearly average distance
22:01:55 <lament> earth is not a sphere either, and the definitions of circumnavigation differ depending on usage, anyhow
22:02:21 <lament> like, for something to be accepted as a circumnavigation when you're sailing a yacht, the requirements are different than if you were flying on a plane
22:02:40 <SnakeO> lament: the line around the equator will work for me if it works for you
22:02:43 <HoopyCat> do not use my answer to plan fuel consumption
22:03:39 <dmwit> Surely the equator's circumference and the length of the moon's major and minor axes of rotation are googlable facts.
22:04:46 <SnakeO> Gurami: to clarify, is that the conversion answers?
22:05:52 <Gurami> Yes SnakeO. The distance from the earth to the moon and back is 18 times the circumference of the earth at apogee, or the moon's closest point.
22:06:15 <Gurami> or what [HoopyCat] said.
22:06:40 <dmwit> zsh: exit failure: program returned error code 1
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22:06:58 <lament> <interactive>:1:8: parse error on input `;'
22:07:26 <lament> (why? that makes no sense)
22:07:27 <dmwit> Iz dat sum Haskell interpreter?
22:08:00 <HoopyCat> error: all sales are final, cannot return
22:08:04 <lament> er, why would it need a "do"?
22:09:05 <dmwit> Well, you're at the interpreter.
22:09:26 <dmwit> The other option is to stick it in a file, but then you need a LHS for the equation.
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22:10:29 <Gurami> Please give a general algorithm to solve all possible input pairs for the following problem: "Given a description of a program and a finite input, decide whether the program finishes running or will run forever on that input."
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22:10:58 <dmwit> Easy: run the program and see if it stops.
22:11:15 <dmwit> Or did you want a guarantee of finite running time in there, too...
22:11:32 <Gurami> The definition of an algorithm is that it terminates in finite time, I believe
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22:11:45 <Gurami> (or part of the def'n)
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22:12:27 <Gurami> HohoHuhu: Out loud or in my head?
22:12:53 <HoopyCat> utoh, gotta go make test, bbiab
22:12:54 <HohoHuhu> As you want. This is just a test. Thx.
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22:14:16 <Gurami> Please express and print the speed of light in furlongs per fortnight
22:14:22 <dmwit> Gurami: First, construct a machine which can execute each instruction in half the time it took to execute the previous instruction.
22:14:54 <dmwit> Gurami: Second, ensure that the machine can execute its first instruction in a finite amount of time.
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22:17:19 <oklokok> i wonder what reddit is :)
22:17:44 <Gurami> Please suggest what I should make for dinner
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22:18:29 <c4st> Please say "Hello, World!"
22:18:40 <HoopyCat> Gurami: carbonnade a la flamande over pasta with beer bread, garden salad, and pear crisp for dessert
22:18:53 <Overand> Synax error: statement must be formed as a question.
22:19:04 <naringas> you people are #4 in the front page
22:19:32 <Overand> "are #4 in the front page" assigned to variable => you people
22:19:45 <havox> What is the meaning of life?
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22:19:57 <HoopyCat> havox: carbonnade a la flamande over pasta with beer bread, garden salad, and pear crisp for dessert
22:20:30 <Gurami> Please write something I am unlikely to correctly prepare for dinner ;P
22:20:41 <oklokok> 52 and rising, how exciting
22:21:00 <HoopyCat> Gurami: carbonnade a la flamande over pasta with beer bread, garden salad, and pear crisp for dessert
22:21:08 <Overand> Gurami: Unable to comply, please rephrase in an ASCII-response usable format.
22:21:20 <c4st> i is 99, while i is greater than 1, say "i bottle off beers on the wall", subtract 1 from i.
22:21:24 <Gurami> Please start a flame war
22:21:34 <Overand> BSD IS WAY BETTER THAN LINUX
22:21:41 <oklokok> When will these ppl get bored and depart? Place your bets NOW!
22:21:49 <Overand> Linux isn't even a REAL operating system - just a kernel!
22:21:51 <wkh> gpl is better than bsd
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22:21:58 <HoopyCat> c4st: i is not 99; i is HoopyCat.
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22:22:38 <Gurami> Please print your favorite programming language for web development (restatement of previous request?)
22:22:42 <dmwit> Overand: At least infinitely long from now, i will finally be 98.
22:22:57 <HohoHuhu> Looks a very interesting channel... Where we learn what GPL, Linux and BSD is.
22:23:07 <wkh> gurami: assembly language running on a PDP-11 emulator running on a Nintendo DS
22:23:24 <Overand> Gurami: connected to the web via a webcam running OCR software?
22:24:16 <Overand> Gurami: my favorite language for web development is english - I requie all web users to phrase queries in plain english, then I write my answer out in cursive german, which an OCR program will scan, and translate to english, then feed back to the user.
22:24:29 <Overand> postback performance time leaves something to be desired
22:24:56 -!- HohoHuhu has left (?).
22:24:57 <sp3tt> cursive russian > cursive german
22:25:03 <dmwit> Yeah, who needs hard drives? Just hire some kids to memorize a bunch of numbers and you're all set.
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22:25:26 <HoopyCat> overand: "Cheddarkaesekaese is a large adding to each possible Fondueerfahrung"? what does that even mean!
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22:25:36 <Overand> Error: dmwit's reference to BASH.ORG quote caused an access violation in module "MEME.DLL"
22:25:48 <tolland> Please say "Hello, World!"
22:25:56 <c4st> Please say 0/1
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22:26:22 <oklokok> hi MotH-, you here to talk about esolangs? :)
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22:26:46 <Overand> oklokok: I was recently reading about 'CHEF" actually.
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22:27:05 <Overand> What a horrifying language
22:28:00 <chton> Please say the numbers 1 through 20, putting a star next to each number devisable by three
22:28:06 <naringas> http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/chef.html
22:28:08 <Overand> oklokok: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_(programming_language)
22:28:16 <Gurami> HAI. CAN HAS STDIO? VISIBLE "HAI WORLD!". KTHXBYE.
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22:28:26 <Overand> chton: Completed. Too bad you weren't on the telephone with me.
22:28:36 <naringas> give me a lol catz link, please
22:28:38 <chton> Gurami: SYNTAX ERROR
22:28:38 <ehird`> so should i implement my own bf interp for KajirBot?
22:28:44 <ehird`> oh god, people are talking about lolcode
22:28:58 <ehird`> i guess the overall iq of this channel drops round about now
22:29:13 <ehird`> yeah, it's pretty hard to have minus iq
22:29:21 <Overand> Gurami: that's actually an alias for /quit
22:29:28 <ehird`> naringas: this channel has been reddited?
22:29:34 <lament> ehird`: you just noticed?
22:29:41 <ehird`> lament: i have been away for a while
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22:29:44 <lament> ehird`: where do you think all these people came from
22:29:45 <naringas> ehird`: yeah, you are number for in the front page
22:30:00 <ehird`> time to update the IRP page everyone
22:30:06 <ehird`> "DO NOT DO THIS IN #ESOTERIC GODDAMNIT"
22:30:53 <Overand> (I don't know who owns it, but it's empty for the moment)
22:31:04 <Gurami> Does this belong in #irp instead?
22:31:11 <ehird`> http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/IRP do you think the redditors will get the sarcasm?
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22:31:46 <ehird`> maybe we should have an irp bot
22:31:52 <ehird`> gives a random answer for what most people do
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22:31:56 <ehird`> like matches hello world -> printing it
22:31:59 <ehird`> and then kicks the sender.
22:32:17 <lament> ehird`: if a line starts with "Please", kickban the sender :D
22:32:38 <ehird`> you know, this wouldn't have happened in the old days
22:32:40 <ehird`> when reddit talked about lisp :p
22:32:41 <chton> lament: easy to solve then :p
22:32:42 <Gurami> can we just use psychoanalyze-pinhead or something?
22:32:50 <Overand> (I'll probably stick around 0- my guess is that at least one out of every 30 or 40 redditers will be into esoteric languages)
22:32:54 <chton> 'haey fucktards, someone say hello world!'
22:33:05 <ehird`> that would cause error 8
22:33:09 <ehird`> DON'T_BE_A_DOUCHE_TO_YOUR_INTERPRETER ERROR
22:33:11 <lament> Overand: now that it's on the front page, probably much less
22:33:22 * relix- is into esoteric languages and comes from reddit
22:33:29 -!- relix- has changed nick to relix.
22:33:41 <lament> programming.reddit.com is all about Haskell :)
22:33:43 <relix> those are refugees from digg :p
22:33:45 <Gurami> like a lynchmob isn't bad :P
22:34:03 <ehird`> relix: the kind of people who find the idea of an illegal number idiotic
22:34:17 <ehird`> "what do you mean i'm arrested for posting child porn? it was just a number... a very big number..."
22:34:18 <relix> you can spot them in the comments fairly easily - they don't understand irony
22:34:21 <lament> this is such a great time for graue to make lots of money by putting up das on the IRP page
22:34:43 <relix> "look at me I tattoo'd a random number on my forehead and it turns out it's ILLEGAL"
22:34:49 <relix> omg wtf bbq first amendment bla
22:35:03 <ehird`> first amendment: you have the right to DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT
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22:35:27 <lament> relix: in some sense, they're right. The laws dealing with information are a bit outdated.
22:35:50 <ehird`> what is generally regarded as the "best" bf interp?
22:35:52 <Overand> Nobody's really quite sure how to deal with an information economy
22:36:05 <ehird`> -- hopefully i can supply an arbitary cell size
22:36:10 <relix> but it's not a reason to act like a jackass
22:36:24 <relix> in essence any program is "just a number"
22:36:24 <ehird`> and -l 546465 is tape length
22:37:08 <Overand> theoretically *anything* is 'just a number' depending on what worldview you use
22:37:27 <ehird`> even with a rational worldview, just about everything is a number
22:37:39 <relix> I didn't want to go that far but it looks like you're all likeminded here :p
22:37:42 <Overand> it's probable that all matter and energy can be described absolutely.
22:37:57 <relix> that is - if you describe to a deterministc universe
22:37:57 <ehird`> relix: especially because of goedel numbering
22:38:10 <Overand> unfortunately given the interactions with the rest of the universe, the number would have to be as large as the universe, more or less
22:38:10 <relix> oklokok that's not proven yet?
22:38:44 <oklokok> relix: it's a widely believed fact
22:38:55 <relix> god is a turing machine at the end of the tape
22:39:16 <relix> it would make sense
22:39:17 <Overand> I actually *almost* like the line from some marilyn manson song or other
22:39:19 <ehird`> i would like the universe to be deterministic, so much could be done, but alas, no hidden variables quantum theory
22:39:25 <Overand> "god is a number you cannot count to"
22:39:28 <ehird`> fuck quantum theory, i want a universe made out of marshmallows
22:39:37 <Overand> Which is wholly nonsensical but at least a cute image.
22:39:48 <Overand> I just made some marshmallows last night
22:39:52 <relix> where's the bonfire though
22:39:54 <ehird`> and the subatomic particles of each marshmallow is a smaller marshmallows
22:39:55 <Gurami> and it occasionally gets too toasted?
22:39:55 <lament> fuck god, i want numbers made out of marshmallows!
22:40:01 <relix> is that extra-universal?*
22:40:04 <ehird`> so, you have infinite marshmallows
22:40:04 <HoopyCat> i, for one, would prefer a universe made out of carbonnade a la flamande over pasta with beer bread, garden salad, and pear crisp for dessert
22:40:16 <ehird`> you can create gloop and just continually eat the smaller marshmallows
22:40:31 <relix> ehird you're juggling with zeno's paradox there
22:40:38 <ehird`> scientists eat and inspect marshmallows for a living
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22:40:53 <dmwit> Oh, the things we endure for science.
22:41:02 <relix> a bursting stomach?
22:41:08 <ehird`> relix: the marshmallows are sentient, they don't believe in zeno's paradox, and they define the universe, so no i am not
22:41:23 <relix> damn I hate you :p
22:41:24 <HoopyCat> leading-edge theorietical physics relies on building bigger and more complex campfires
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22:41:30 <Overand> better to juddle with zeno's paradox than to juggle with Xenu
22:41:35 <Overand> which would be anamazing excersize tape
22:41:38 <relix> xenu si my homeboy
22:41:41 <ehird`> Overand: xenu is actually a nice guy in the marshmallow universe
22:41:44 <oklokok> this conversation is much closer to what we usually have here :)
22:41:48 <Overand> relix: I'm in a band called Harry Xenu
22:41:49 <ehird`> see, everyone likes marshmallows
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22:41:58 <relix> xenu is the stick that holds the marshmallow over the extra-universal bonfire
22:42:04 <Gurami> ehird: is that an axiom?
22:42:11 <ehird`> lament: so what impl is gregorr's
22:42:15 <naringas> how many people are they usually on this channel?
22:42:17 <relix> Overand what does the Harry stand for?
22:42:22 <Overand> Between this and #xkcd, I feel like I'm home.
22:42:23 <oklokok> naringas: about half this amount
22:42:24 <ehird`> Gurami: no, it is intrinstically related to the marshmallow universe
22:42:27 <Overand> relix: actually, it's because we're both hairy...
22:42:38 <relix> I would have suspected more from redditors
22:42:41 <ehird`> stick around, it's nicer here with more sane people
22:42:44 <Gurami> ehird: Is god the stay-puft marshmallow man?
22:43:00 <relix> yeah, God is the michelan dude
22:43:01 <pikhq> It's like #xkcd, without Bucket.
22:43:04 <ehird`> Gurami: the god is actually nice, he implants the knowledge of himself and the nature of all the universe in each sentient creature
22:43:05 <HoopyCat> if god is the stay-puft marshmallow man, then satan is the michelin man
22:43:21 <ehird`> Gurami: so no religion is needed because everyone knows it and everything
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22:43:54 <Gurami> How does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster fit in?
22:43:59 <pikhq> Is that a belief in quantum mechanics?
22:44:18 <Overand> http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1400/fv01386.htm
22:44:24 <relix> the marshmallows are the desert after the meal that is the flying spaghetti monster?
22:44:26 <Overand> er, that was meant to go to pikhq
22:44:39 <ehird`> IRP has been vandalised
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22:45:00 <pikhq> That would be an omniquantist.
22:45:23 <HoopyCat> that reminds me, i oughta install that frost-free sillcock next weekend
22:45:26 <pikhq> Are you named Sam or something?
22:45:41 <ehird`> "Hello, reddit! Just want you to know, we completely adore you spamming up our IRC channel with your lame, overdone requests. We highly suggest you do NOT use #irp instead.
22:45:41 <ehird`> We also appreciate your editorial work, such as contributing to this page with the word "cocks"."
22:45:44 <ehird`> i am so damn sarcastic
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22:46:36 <Overand> I'm sort of amazed there aren't more wiki pages out there that just say 'cocks'
22:47:00 <relix> cocks is overrated
22:47:01 <ehird`> completely safe for work
22:47:04 <ehird`> but all pages just contain cocks
22:47:15 <lament> but then there's only one page
22:47:15 <naringas> reverse whois this 69.118.79.88
22:47:22 <HoopyCat> i started doing some research to determine how many wiki pages out there just say "cocks", but, uhh, i have to have an awkward conversation with my wife now
22:47:35 <pikhq> Does Reddit hate us or something?
22:47:36 <Gurami> naringas: ool-45764f58.dyn.optonline.net
22:47:42 <ehird`> pikhq: No - reddit is nice
22:47:47 <ehird`> pikhq: Some reddit users hate everything :p
22:47:51 <Overand> naringas: it's optimum online - long island ISP
22:48:13 <ehird`> lament: so what is gregorr's impl
22:48:32 <lament> at least somebody recently mentioned it as a good optimizing compiler
22:48:35 <pikhq> And it's a seperate project which Egobot wraps.
22:48:38 <ehird`> i'm trying to outdo egobot, haha :p
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22:48:50 <lament> in that case you probably shouldn't use its interpreter :)
22:49:08 <ehird`> but then of course is the choice - python or C?
22:49:11 <ehird`> the bot i'm writing is in python
22:49:15 <ehird`> but C maybe for the speed
22:49:20 <ehird`> but then what programs do people run with bots?
22:50:06 <Gurami> did you guys see that article a while ago claiming that java new is faster than C malloc? I forget wherefrom - maybe IBM labs
22:50:26 <pikhq> lament: Please just remember that you're the other #esoteric contact. ;)
22:50:30 <ehird`> python would fit in better with the bot since it is in python
22:50:41 <ehird`> C is maybe best as when I write my BF compiler it will be in C
22:51:11 <HandOfCode> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-jtp09275.html?ca=dgr-jw22JavaUrbanLegends
22:51:11 <dmwit> Are you seriously stressed out about making a BF interpreter that's fast enough for industrial use?
22:51:15 <lament> pikhq: i already banned some guy who spammed the channel with "Please spam this message"
22:51:47 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
22:51:49 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
22:52:01 <Gurami> HandOfCode: What seemed off to you?
22:52:17 <ehird`> how do you optimize a bf interp, anyway
22:52:24 <ehird`> surely the opt. takes longer than just running it
22:52:30 <oklokok> !bf8 ->->-<<[->[->[-]<]<] ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
22:52:46 <oklokok> !bf8 ->->->-<<<[->[->[->[-]<]<]<] ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
22:53:01 <oklokok> !bf8 ->->->->-<<<< [->[->[->[->[-]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
22:53:04 <Gurami> HandOfCode: no, the article said that they examined the # of machine instructions (assembly inst.) that each generated for each line of code.
22:53:07 <naringas> congratulations, IRP is now number 3 in reddit's fp
22:53:14 <pikhq> HandOfCode: Shall I bork your brain some more?
22:53:23 <pikhq> http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/pfuck-1.1.tar.bz2
22:53:26 <oklokok> !bf8 ->->->->->->-<<<<<< [->[->[->[->[->[->[-]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
22:53:30 <ehird`> naringas: not congratulations
22:53:34 <ehird`> naringas: more like ``oh fuck''
22:53:36 <oklokok> or is it just that fast...
22:53:45 <lament> now i'm hoping we get #1 :)
22:53:56 <ehird`> i guess my note worked
22:54:06 <Overand> ehird`: aye, but pikhq seems to dislike me, heh.
22:54:13 <lament> the IRP page is vandalized again
22:54:13 <pikhq> Overand: What makes you think that?
22:54:19 <HandOfCode> *wonders* could EgoBot have a BF buffer overun exploit?
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22:54:35 <Overand> the type-o thing, and the 'sam' thing
22:54:39 <pikhq> HandOfCode: Gregor's not that bad of a coder.
22:54:42 <lament> are there any esolang admins around?
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22:55:27 <oklokok> !bf8 ->->->->->->->->->-<<<<<<<<< [->[->[->[->[->[->[->[->[->[-]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
22:55:53 <HandOfCode> we have a base line now we just need to average it out
22:55:55 <oklokok> !bf8 ->->->->->->-<<<<<< [->[->[->[->[->[->[-]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
22:55:57 <ehird`> Gurami: brainfuck, n00b
22:56:11 <oklokok> !bf8 ->->->->->->->-<<<<<<< [->[->[->[->[->[->[->[-]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+.
22:56:37 <oklokok> GregorR: does it do that? you filthy meanie :<
22:56:51 <Gurami> How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
22:57:01 <lament> it probably does optimize
22:57:10 <lament> since it's a bunch of balanced loops
22:57:18 <lament> even a most basic optimizer should be able to catch that
22:57:28 <lament> try making them unbalanced somehow
22:57:34 <oklokok> that's pretty easy to optimize, but i don't exactly feel like trying to cheat it :P
22:58:13 <Gurami> sudo make me a sandwich
22:58:19 <oklokok> i'll just make those nested loops in a more generic way
22:59:00 <pikhq> oklokok: It does optimize.
22:59:11 <pikhq> Not that hard to tell, though.
22:59:12 <oklokok> yeah, i guess that's why ppl say it optimizes.
22:59:15 <pikhq> Just get the tarball.
23:01:22 <ehird`> it's easy to use really
23:02:21 <HandOfCode> is BF white space sensative? (AKA does it care about newlines)
23:02:55 <pikhq> http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bottles.b My personal version of that program. . .
23:03:40 <pikhq> ehird`: I didn't optimise it at all. . .
23:03:55 <pikhq> PEBBLE makes it too easy to make inefficient programs.
23:04:29 <pikhq> I at least have the excuse that that one outputs it without any tricks like "1 bottles".
23:04:33 * HandOfCode wants to see what that would do to egobot
23:04:49 <ehird`> but it would excess flood
23:04:50 <pikhq> !bf8 http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bottles.b
23:04:55 <ehird`> so it would take a very long time
23:05:07 <ehird`> pikhq: !bf8 doesn't do urls does it
23:05:13 <pikhq> ehird`: All of them do.
23:05:27 <pikhq> I just got some privmsgs from Egobot.
23:05:35 <pikhq> And Egobot is broken.
23:05:42 <pikhq> I'm getting "Take one down, pass it around."
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23:06:43 <lament> this one idiot keeps vandalizing the page
23:06:47 <lament> i guess it's good there's only one
23:07:01 <HandOfCode> checked to see if he's in the channel?
23:07:02 <ehird`> (cur) (last) 22:06, 19 August 2007 69.118.79.88 (Talk) (restored vandalism)
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23:08:03 <HandOfCode> they're filterting torrent traffic now
23:08:15 <pikhq> In other news, +>+[-<+>] makes 2.
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23:08:42 <lament> are there any admins on the esowiki?
23:09:26 <pikhq> Yes, but I doubt they're here.
23:09:34 -!- Symmetry- has quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong").
23:10:36 <ehird`> sigh - http://digg.com/programming/IRP_esoteric_language
23:10:43 <ehird`> someone put "gtfo diggers" in the topic
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23:11:27 <lament> ehird`: you made ElbridgeGerry leave :)
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23:15:10 * ehird` does the antidigg dance
23:15:17 <ehird`> but for keeping digg usrs away
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23:16:06 <HandOfCode> !bf8 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
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23:16:40 <lament> this one making edits that seem like they're in good faith
23:16:57 <floam> someone please respond to HTTP requests, serving valid HTML of a website about cats
23:16:59 <pikhq> Like, someone in here on a regular basis.
23:17:28 <pikhq> 405 Obtain a brain.
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23:17:49 <ehird`> lament: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/IRP
23:17:52 <ehird`> there is a part missing
23:17:55 <ehird`> the part with the ERROR 8
23:17:56 <floam> what's that? I just clicked a link from reddit and some wiki told me to come here and use this distributed computing machine
23:18:02 <ehird`> floam: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/IRP
23:18:06 <ehird`> floam: did you read the page?
23:18:14 <ehird`> floam: i specifically put a bold message up there for a reason
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23:19:01 <lament> i was pretty sure it was there, the guy did two edits almost simultaneously
23:19:14 <floam> something in bold says not to use #irp
23:19:14 -!- lament has set topic: Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | IRP in #irp.
23:19:16 <pikhq> MrMeoff: echo {1..10}
23:19:16 <floam> this is all to confusing
23:19:28 <ehird`> floam: you are a digg refugee aren't you
23:19:47 <floam> no, I was using reddit before it sucked
23:20:00 <ehird`> floam: you probably caused it to suck with your complete lack of understanding of irony
23:20:00 <floam> it's just ron paul and kittens now
23:20:11 <ehird`> oh, you're one of those complainers
23:20:44 -!- smuckers has left (?).
23:20:45 <floam> there is a solution, however: http://ycombinator.com/hackernews.html
23:21:06 <naringas> news.ycombinator kind of sucks
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23:21:12 <pikhq> Upon mentioning Graham, you lose.
23:21:25 -!- MrMeoff has left (?).
23:21:36 <floam> naringas: supposedly they'll be launching a reddit-stuck-in-2006 at some point
23:21:42 <floam> it is kind of useless right now
23:21:52 <pikhq> Now, fellows, shall we discuss something *esoteric*?
23:22:07 <pikhq> Perhaps I should give a lecture on PEBBLE or Dimensifuck for the noobs?
23:22:14 <ehird`> lament: you removed my "cocks" comment :(
23:22:24 <lament> ehird`: i think that only encourages people
23:22:28 <ehird`> and get everybody to write a program at the end
23:22:30 <pikhq> ehird`: I can only lecture on languages I understand.
23:22:40 <ehird`> and then if they don't get it right
23:22:44 <ehird`> pikhq: just say loads of bullshit
23:22:46 <ehird`> and include words like "cryptanalysis"
23:22:46 <pikhq> I may be able to lecture on Glass.
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23:23:02 <ehird`> pikhq: use gregor's lecture on glass
23:23:09 <ehird`> and any intelligent person would interstand
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23:23:19 <pikhq> !glass {M[m"Hello, redditers!"(_o)O!(_o)o.?]}
23:24:07 <pikhq> !glass {M[m<2><2>+(_o)O!(_o)o.?]}
23:24:10 <pikhq> oklokok: What about it?
23:24:17 <EgoBot> 0:*0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
23:24:30 <pikhq> Grr. O.o doesn't much like numbers.
23:25:07 <EgoBot> 0:*0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
23:25:12 <ehird`> current IRP error set:
23:25:18 <ehird`> ERROR 8: DON'T_BE_A_DOUCHE_TO_YOUR_INTERPRETER ERROR
23:25:24 -!- TrwX has quit ("System Failure").
23:25:31 <ehird`> your mom (division by zero and other impossible things)
23:25:35 <ehird`> go to hell (unreasonable stuff)
23:25:44 <pikhq> !glass {M[m<2><2>+(_o)O!(_o)(on).?]}
23:26:35 <pikhq> !glass {M[m(_a)A!(_o)O!<2><2>(_a)a.?(_o)(on).?]}
23:26:37 <ehird`> floam: you're a pretard too
23:26:39 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
23:26:41 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
23:26:45 <EgoBot> 0:*2|3|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
23:26:52 <floam> what? I thought the internet was anonymous
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23:26:56 <floam> I don't even know what a pretard is
23:27:03 <ehird`> floam: http://programming.reddit.com/info/2gndp/comments/c2gpos
23:27:09 <floam> that's some other floam
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23:28:57 <EgoBot> 0:1|*1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
23:29:43 -!- itodd__ has left (?).
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23:29:57 <ehird`> egobot has messaged me 20 times
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23:30:50 <ehird`> and would give up after 255 loops
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23:31:03 <ehird`> but it wouldn't change
23:31:34 <oklokok> poor EgoBot, always dying.
23:31:35 <ehird`> 68:1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|*1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
23:31:48 <pikhq> Not hard; killing Egobot is kindof a hobby around here.
23:32:04 <ehird`> KajirBot should be in here right now
23:32:06 <ehird`> it would be great advertising
23:32:11 <pikhq> Because we're evil.
23:32:48 <oklokok> i need to make a bf_txtgen of my own
23:32:51 <ehird`> HandOfCode: my bot. is a work in progress, but will be comphrenensive when done
23:32:59 <ehird`> HandOfCode: lots and lots of esolang interpreters are planned
23:33:13 <ehird`> and some miscellaneous rubbish like .feed where it begs for the food it wants until it gets it
23:33:30 <ehird`> but it is just repeating now
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23:33:53 <naringas> ha, IRP is #1 in programming.reddit
23:34:00 <lament> naringas: it's been #1 for hours
23:34:03 <ehird`> naringas: almost #1 in just reddit
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23:34:39 <HandOfCode> that private parking pick is such a photoshop
23:34:57 <ehird`> if that doesn't get it
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23:35:26 <ehird`> read wiki pages damnit
23:35:33 <pikhq> Moshi moshi, sekai.
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23:36:41 * naringas mourns egobot, whom I just met
23:37:55 <oklokok> he shall be reborn, don't worry
23:38:11 <oklokok> not sure if you'll be here to see that, though :P
23:38:40 <naringas> ooh, i might comeback in the future, after the hype
23:38:48 <ehird`> not too much hype here
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23:39:21 <oklokok> i'm surprised to see people are still hanging in here
23:40:14 <pikhq> GregorR: You need a kill-switch on that.
23:40:42 <oklokok> GregorR: please make EgoBot immortal
23:41:13 <oklokok> shouldn't be that hard to do, and we'd avoid all the sorrow
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23:42:18 <oklokok> hmm... if someone is fluent at their client's scripting langs, please tell me what time zone all these ppl are on
23:42:18 <lament> oklokok: that sounds like an IRP request. I will have to ban you.
23:42:36 <oklokok> lament: please do not ban me
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23:43:14 <pikhq> Maybe even a life?
23:43:47 <GregorR> Just on a different virtual desktop.
23:43:50 <GregorR> Preparing a presentation :P
23:44:04 <ehird`> GregorR: its still going damnit
23:44:09 <oklokok> GregorR: what fales with EgoBot?
23:44:21 <ehird`> 450:1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|*1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
23:44:24 <ehird`> all that changes is the number
23:44:48 * GregorR doesn't really remember its commands :P
23:44:58 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
23:45:00 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
23:45:20 <ehird`> !qbf ++++++[THIS IS A QUANTUM BOX]
23:45:22 <GregorR> oklokok: I /msg'd it !help
23:45:38 <oklokok> GregorR: now try to make me believe that.
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23:46:01 <Ben`> Please say "Hello, World!"
23:46:08 <ehird`> Ben`: Please go to hell or #irp
23:46:23 <pikhq> Ben`: Mi malsxatas vin.
23:46:30 <Ben`> that's not how you spell "Hello, World!" :(
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23:46:41 <pikhq> No, but it is how you spell "I don't like you."
23:46:43 <ehird`> i am not an irp interpreter here
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23:47:48 <oklokok> pikhq: was that esperanto?
23:48:01 <pikhq> bsmntbombdood: Welcome to Malebolge.
23:48:27 <ehird`> oklokok: also known as Bach
23:48:33 <lament> esperanto and lojban are basically the same language!
23:48:38 <ehird`> malebolge is a layer of hell
23:48:38 <oklokok> oh, german indeed has that
23:49:20 <pikhq> Basically, a way of ASCIIing the Esperanto circumflexes.
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23:49:50 <oklokok> so it's the english "sh", kinda?
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23:50:21 <pikhq> That's actually how "sx" is pronounced, actually.
23:50:37 <pikhq> Well, present tense.
23:50:37 <oklokok> hmm... from where is that?
23:50:52 <oklokok> i guess that's not all that crucial
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23:52:57 <lament> because it's too difficult
23:53:00 <oklokok> i learn for my own amusement
23:53:21 <oklokok> all languages are equally difficult, says i!
23:53:27 <oklokok> but then again, i say a lot of things
23:53:43 <ehird`> i want to continue implang
23:53:51 <ehird`> maybe i shall rename it and pick it up again
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23:56:04 <lament> yes, all languages are equally difficult, except Russian, which is more difficult.
23:56:35 <naringas> and chinese which is even more difficult
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23:59:01 <naringas> as far as i know, different pitches have different meanings in chinese
23:59:05 <oklokok> lament: do you learn russian?
23:59:23 <oklokok> naringas: how does that make it harder?
23:59:47 <oklokok> it reciprocates by not having a lot of exceptions to rules