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00:30:55 <Sgeo> Would it be a bad thing to make seeking through file descriptors etc. be located at 0x10-0x19?
00:33:42 <Sgeo> 0x10 - switch outfile descriptor; 0x11 - switch infile descriptor; 0x12 - absolute seek through outfile descriptor; 0x13 - abs. seek through infile descriptor; 0x14 - rel. seek outfile; 0x15 - rel. seek infile; 0x16 - flush outfile; 0x17 - flush infile; 0x18 - close outfile and return to stdout; 0x19 - close infile and return to stdin
00:34:11 <Sgeo> All in System domain (0x02)
00:34:48 <Sgeo> Oh, and there will only be one pool for file descriptors
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00:56:16 <Sgeo> and GregorR and ihope and and and
01:18:16 <ihope> Sounds good to me; I dunno.
01:19:26 <pikhq> Probably not a bad thing.
01:20:41 <Sgeo> I guess for abs. seeks, 0 should be the first byte?
01:21:04 * Sgeo is going to have the seek functions require longnums, incidentally
01:21:32 <Sgeo> Making seeking 5 bytes forward on the outfile: 0x00 0x02 0x14 0x01 0x05 0x00 0x0A :/
01:21:50 <Sgeo> 5 bytes backward would be 0x00 0x02 0x14 0x02 0x05 0x00 0x0
01:22:20 <Sgeo> Too much overhead?
01:22:27 <Sgeo> Or is it ok if understood?
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02:19:31 <Sgeo> See http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt
02:19:38 <Sgeo> Under File Descriptors stuff
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07:31:44 <immibis> !daemon ctcp bf +[[-]+.,----------[++++++++++.,----------]+.+++++++++.]
07:32:14 <immibis> !!! i actually got it on my second try?
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07:33:50 <EgoBot> I AM EGOBOT. BOW BEFORE ME!!!
07:34:10 <immybo> !cat I am immybo's slave!
07:34:34 <immybo> !cat You will bow before immybo!
07:34:36 <immibis> immybo, to make him use /me, say !ctcp ACTION tests
07:34:38 <EgoBot> You will bow before immybo!
07:34:45 <immibis> immybo, do it in a private chat
07:36:28 <EgoBot> I am immybo's slave. Bow before immibis!
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07:44:34 <EgoBot> 63 +++++++++++[>+++++++++++>+++>>+<<<<-]>--.--------..---------.>. [124]
07:44:51 <immibis> !bf +++++++++++[>+++++++++++>+++>>+<<<<-]>--.--------..------ ---.>.
07:44:58 <immibis> !bf +++++++++++[>+++++++++++>+++>>+<<<<-]>--.--------..---------.>.
07:45:37 <immibis> 1x1 is equivalent to just x.
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08:12:02 <immibis> !glass {M[m(_o)O!<1>(_o)on.?]}
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09:47:50 <immibis> why are you making a decaf espresso orange juice with an infinite number of sugars in a petrol tanker with last year's milk for #arianne?
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09:57:10 <WaiterBot> #bots: <toBogE> immibis is my creator. All hail immibis!
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16:14:35 <importantshock> nothing, just got back from my Software Engineering 1 class
16:14:46 <importantshock> where we were taught about the ! operator. exciting fucking stuff.
16:15:46 <importantshock> it is kind of fun, insofar as the rest of the class is "what the fuck is a pointer?" and i just sit back and smirk
16:16:39 <RodgerTheGreat> that sounds pretty much like my "Software development in C/C++" class.
16:17:00 <RodgerTheGreat> "HOLY POO WHAT IS DEREFERENCING I AM CONFUSED THIS IS HARD HURR"
16:18:05 <importantshock> he knows Haskell and SML and all of these languages i've never heard
16:18:47 <bsmntbom1dood> shouldn't you already know how to code in a software engineering class?
16:20:30 <RodgerTheGreat> in many cases, software engineering courses are organized as "Computer Science for people who dropped out of Computer Science"
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16:21:23 <bsmntbom1dood> kids who can't code at all go into CS because they want to learn how to fix computers
16:21:37 <oklokok> there's one course in functional programming in the university \o/
16:21:58 <oklokok> well, it usually doesn't happen, too little people take it...
16:22:30 <RodgerTheGreat> bsmntbom1dood: all the CS- related courses get shit-tons of people there for the wrong reasons
16:22:56 <RodgerTheGreat> something about the average starting salary is probably the root of a great deal of that
16:24:58 <RodgerTheGreat> All of my classes positively seethe with terrible, terrible programmers
16:28:27 <oklokok> hey, you've got cs at least...
16:30:32 <RodgerTheGreat> my high school didn't have any damn programming classes, so quit your whining.
16:30:58 <oklokok> i'm talking about the university
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16:32:07 <oklokok> really, i asked the professor what other paradigms than oop are taught there, he said "there's occasionally one in functional programming, and i think we used to have one with AI"
16:32:52 <oklokok> might have used different quantifiers, but anyway, just a few real courses, and they aren't always even organized
16:33:03 <oklokok> heh, i guess he meant prolog :)
16:34:47 <oklokok> i guess i should ask fizzie for directions
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18:12:14 <GregorR> RodgerTheGreat: The low-level CS courses get a lot of idiots due to the perceived (but not real) profit margin, yes, but also from the IWANNARITEGAMESSOIHERDINEDACSDEGREEEEE idiots.
18:12:28 <GregorR> I would say 50% of the first-year CS students are the latter. And 0% of that 50% continue to another year.
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18:25:34 <bsmntbom1dood> it seems like the undergrad CS curriculum at all universities sucks
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20:09:02 <oklokok> uh, i love the people who act all programming king in the first demos of a course, right up until i get on the blackboard :D
20:09:17 <oklokok> guys who've made a game or two in VB and the likes :P
20:10:02 <oklokok> i guess i shouldn't brag about that, but owning noobs is just so much fun
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20:27:16 <oerjan> _please_ don't start to resemble immibis, ok?
20:27:46 <oklopol> i like immibis, he's got a nice animal charm
20:27:57 <oklopol> you know, he just seems to be more alive than most ppl
20:29:40 <oklopol> i'll try to be formal from now on
20:29:53 <oklopol> eh.. formal? you know that non immibis thing
20:30:07 <oerjan> someone who chastises his alter ego for spamming, and then continues to do it himself...
20:30:28 <oerjan> ok, i'll just have to remember we are mad here.
20:33:30 <oklopol> i feel naughty for being the same color and length as GregorR
20:33:32 <Sgeo> MAD! MAD> I SAY!
20:34:24 <oklopol> you'd think that'd be the easier of the two to get :P
20:35:06 <oerjan> i was all wondering, how did you get to compare heights?
20:35:23 <oerjan> i remember the conversation from the logs or something
20:35:35 <oklopol> nice, someone besides me reads the logs :)
20:35:38 <oerjan> i don't have colored nicks though
20:36:24 <oerjan> except when someone mentions mine
20:36:42 <oklopol> well yeah, but that usually comes automatically with every client
20:37:55 <oerjan> indeed, although i _did_ download a color scheme
20:38:23 <oerjan> since i cannot stand dark backgrounds
20:38:47 <oklopol> can't stand dark backrounds :O
20:38:55 <oklopol> you'd hate using my computer :)
20:40:33 <oerjan> actually i think the default which i changed was something that left the background as is, but selected the other colors on the assumption it was dark...
20:41:18 <oerjan> certain things got a bit hard to see :/
20:41:33 <oklopol> i have white on grey now, though i prefer white on black
20:47:43 <oklopol> had to make sure you weren't correcting me :P
20:47:54 <oklopol> "white on black" <<< i could've easily failed this
20:48:51 <oerjan> well, let's not look at things as black or white
20:49:20 <oerjan> green on orange is much better
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