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01:02:28 <AnMaster> hm where is fizzie?
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02:04:47 <AnMaster> night →
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02:58:20 <oerjan> Cu: C is carbon. that would just be wrong.
02:58:32 <Cu> heh
02:58:42 <Cu> just wanted to see if it was registered
02:59:14 <oerjan> optimist
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03:22:11 <uorygl> κοππρος
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04:50:49 <uorygl> I'm having a sudden urge to write a Thue compiler.
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12:25:21 <Ilari> uorygl: Thue to X86 executable compiler?
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19:30:12 <uorygl> Ilari: something like that.
19:30:20 <uorygl> Thue to language-not-at-all-similar-to-Thue compiler.
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19:34:31 <Ilari> Bonus points for writing replacement instructions all inline without using libraries.
19:35:17 <Ilari> Probably the hardest part is identifying all the possible rewrites and making random choice...
19:36:43 <uorygl> That's not necessarily, I think.
19:37:08 <uorygl> I mean, does the Thue spec say the choice is "unspecified", "nondeterministic", or "random"?
19:37:57 <AnMaster> uorygl, optimising compiler?
19:38:09 <AnMaster> sigh... bbs, phone.
19:38:45 <lament> is the choice of the choice unspecified, nondeterministic, or random?
19:40:08 <uorygl> AnMaster: something like that, yeah.
19:40:16 <uorygl> Well, yes, it would be that.
19:40:55 <Ilari> Probably the way to pick random choice with smallest memory usage would be to make first pass over string, counting the possiblities. Then generate random number and do that manyth replacement.
19:46:26 <uorygl> That's unnecessary.
19:47:12 <uorygl> Since it doesn't need to be a uniform distribution; every replacement simply needs to have a positive probability.
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20:17:10 <AnMaster> uorygl, thue -> brainfuck? though you can't optimise much then
20:17:19 <AnMaster> might be better to do thue → non-esolang
20:17:36 <uorygl> Yeah.
20:17:38 <AnMaster> like, say, C (if you want to be portable) or x86_64 linux asm (if you don't)
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20:18:19 <uorygl> C--!
20:18:22 <AnMaster> uorygl, hm thue is self modifying right?
20:18:24 <AnMaster> uorygl, or that
20:18:40 <AnMaster> or do I misremember which one thue is
20:18:46 <uorygl> No, Thue is matrioshka.
20:19:20 <AnMaster> ah
20:20:16 <AnMaster> uorygl, is there any thue interpreter in thue?
20:28:42 <zzo38> Can a generalization of the INTERCAL select operator be used in digital signal processing?
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20:45:40 <AnMaster> hm where is fizzie
20:45:48 <AnMaster> Deewiant, there?
20:45:57 <AnMaster> any idea where fizzie may be?
20:46:28 <Deewiant> Nope
20:46:29 <AnMaster> zzo38, how do you mean?
20:46:43 <AnMaster> Deewiant, I thought you worked at same university or something?
20:46:48 <AnMaster> or maybe I misremember
20:46:56 <Deewiant> I don't work there, I study there
20:47:03 <AnMaster> Deewiant, well okay. but apart from that
20:47:04 <Deewiant> And it's saturday
20:47:10 <AnMaster> Deewiant, ever met fizzie there?
20:47:21 <Deewiant> I went to his master's thesis presentation, but not otherwise
20:47:25 <AnMaster> ah
20:47:46 <AnMaster> Deewiant, I think I beat him at the panorama thing now.
20:48:08 <AnMaster> well not panorama, but close
20:48:11 <AnMaster> HDR-merging
20:48:31 <AnMaster> 42 source images (raw formats).
20:51:24 <uorygl> A Thue interpreter in Thue might be difficult.
20:54:10 <uorygl> Hey, C-- was co-designed by Simon Peyton Jonse.
20:54:13 <uorygl> s/se/es/
20:57:53 <zzo38> AnMaster: I mean you can have a command CAS (Create Address Space) and CTT (Complex Table Translate), and some generaliation of INTERCAL select used to create the address spaces. And then you can have other commands for quick loop and operation on entire memory, etc
20:58:22 <AnMaster> zzo38, mhm
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21:00:20 <zzo38> Do you think they would be useful in digital signal processing, though? (both in audio and video, and others)
21:16:00 <AnMaster> zzo38, I know too little about DSP to be able to answer that question
21:16:37 <zzo38> OK
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21:16:42 <AnMaster> zzo38, I generally use such programs (right now for example, batch converting some 40 RAW images)
21:16:47 <AnMaster> meh
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21:30:48 <uorygl> What are we DSPing, now?
21:46:07 <AnMaster> uorygl, I think zzo was talking about DSP in general
21:46:22 <AnMaster> which is very zzo-ish
21:46:30 <AnMaster> in a special kind of way
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23:19:27 <Guest50560> hi
23:19:50 <Guest50560> is corewar.co.uk loading for you
23:25:37 <Asztal> Guest50560: yes
23:25:51 <Guest50560> :-(
23:26:11 <Guest50560> not for me
23:26:44 <Gregor> Guest50560: Is 213.171.218.196 loading for you?
23:26:58 <soupdragon> is corewar fun?
23:27:06 <Gregor> FYB is fun! :P
23:27:07 <Guest50560> thanks will try when i leave irc
23:27:25 <Gregor> Guest50560: That wasn't a solution, it was a diagnostic.
23:27:27 <soupdragon> what's that?
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23:27:54 <Gregor> http://esolangs.org/wiki/FYB
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23:28:07 <soupdragon> aha
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23:30:15 <Gregor> Good, I'M the only one who can have their first name as a nick 'round here!
23:31:16 <Guest5186> :-)
23:31:46 <Guest5186> stupid dsorganise irc keeps crashing
23:34:40 <Asztal> I prefer IRCds :)
23:35:46 <Guest5186> me too but i recently wiped everything thanks to a software bug
23:38:11 <Asztal> Did DSorganise mess up your file system too?
23:38:47 <Guest5186> i cant remember if it was dsorganise or something else
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23:39:32 <Guest5186> there used to be a decnt list of ds homebrew on wikipedia but they removed it
23:40:08 <Gregor> I wonder what would compel someone to name a piece of software (essentially) "disorganise"
23:40:48 <Guest5186> :-)
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23:46:07 <oerjan> <uorygl> A Thue interpreter in Thue might be difficult. <-- i looked at doing a thue interpreter in /// / itflabijtslwi[sp] but sort of lost interest because thue has such arbitrarily restricted input (only whole lines and no way to prevent input injection by colliding with the program code) so it is essentially _less_ useful
23:51:19 <AnMaster> oerjan, iwc
23:51:23 <AnMaster> oerjan, hours ago remind me
23:52:56 <AnMaster> <Guest5186> me too but i recently wiped everything thanks to a software bug <-- guess: not a linux user
23:53:04 <AnMaster> probably windows
23:53:28 <AnMaster> (at least assuming this is about PCs)
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