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01:30:30 <Gregor> 0x000000000064e2f0: sub $0x8,%rsp
01:30:31 <Gregor> 0x000000000064e2f4: add $0x8,%rsp
01:30:31 <Gregor> 0x000000000064e2f8: retq
01:30:35 <Gregor> DEAR UNIVERSE: THIS CANNOT SEGFAULT
01:30:47 <elliott> ok i need more context i will
01:31:16 <elliott> does it happen without the subs and adds
01:31:44 <Gregor> This is in Fythe, the tests are failing on the server but not the client, so I ran an empty function.
01:31:48 <Gregor> The empty function segfaults X_X
01:32:02 <Gregor> (That is, it's just prologue + epilogue)
01:32:11 <Gregor> Err, heh, sorry, the test server.
01:32:18 <Gregor> And the "client" isn't a client, it's just my machine :P
01:32:48 <elliott> you are a wonderful human being
01:59:18 <pikhq> Gregor: What the *hell*.
01:59:45 <pikhq> Gregor: Well, there is a way for it to segfault.
02:00:03 <Gregor> That's what I finally determined must be happening.
02:00:09 <Gregor> I'm just not sure what changed between this morning and now :P
02:00:19 <pikhq> Gregor: If the stack is fucked up, it could be attempting to return to something bizarro.
02:00:44 <pikhq> Oh, NX bit could do it too. mprotect that shit.
02:00:51 <Gregor> No, it's not a stack issue.
02:01:10 <pikhq> Definitely mprotect.
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02:14:39 <pikhq> Hello, pumpkin of co.
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03:37:27 <pikhq> "A bird in a bird in a bird in a bird in a bird in a pig."
03:49:21 <pikhq> Quail in a cornish game hen in a chicken in a duck in a turkey in a pig. Also bacon. This is a real thing.
03:50:48 <oerjan> well the big question is, with so many birds inside, can the pig fly?
03:50:57 <pikhq> oerjan: With sufficient thrust.
03:51:53 <pikhq> Of course, just about everything flies with sufficient thrust.
03:52:53 <oerjan> fruit flies like a banana
03:55:50 <pikhq> ... Liquid *helium* computer cooling?
03:57:26 <lament> Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies with sufficient thrust.
04:01:40 <lament> Time flies with sufficient thrust, fruit flies with sufficient thrust like a banana.
04:04:17 <oerjan> time always has a thrust of 1 s / s
04:05:08 <pikhq> Oh, so time's thrust is measured in radians/steradians/etc.?
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04:22:53 <Sgeo> Going to take a Tylenol
04:30:32 <pikhq> "Many Japanese Series seem to have a particular structure to their titles: "Adjective Noun Propername", or alternately 'Noun adjunct, Noun, Proper name'. Or they have that basic form with a slight variation. [...] Since the naming pattern doesn't fit into the standard structure of the English language, it can take newcomers some time getting used to."
04:32:57 <pikhq> I suspect Japanese titling has done weird things to my idiolect.
04:34:30 <oerjan> hm what's an example of the latter type?
04:36:53 <pikhq> Hard to find examples that I've heard of. :P
04:37:21 <oerjan> what's an adjunct, anyhow.
04:37:55 <pikhq> I dunno, I was quoting.
04:38:11 <pikhq> "Adjective Noun Propername" is pretty clearly the common case.
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05:01:05 <pikhq> It is literally impossible to make a release of the original cut of the Star Wars films.
05:01:17 <pikhq> Reason being: the negatives are lost forever.
05:01:48 <pikhq> Even the very first VHS/Laserdisc release was not a release of the original cut, but rather something which closely approximated it.
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06:29:16 <pikhq> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75p6TYapIg&feature=related You know it's weird when the Japanese consider it weird.
06:29:25 <pikhq> This was an *actual ad on actual Japanese TV*.
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09:39:30 <cheater99> i think i want this on a tshirt: 221. Because of the restrictions placed on their thoughts and behavior by their high level of socialization, many leftists of the over-socialized type cannot pursue power in the ways that other people do. For them the drive for power has only one morally acceptable outlet, and that is in the struggle to impose their morality on everyone.
09:41:16 <cheater99> pikhq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx2FpqNnidA&NR=1
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12:55:11 <ais523_> hmm, this form that I just had to print out to hand in at a meeting had "PTO" printed on every other page
12:55:19 <ais523_> I think, because all the printers in the department are set to print double-sided by default
12:55:28 <ais523_> there is something a bit disconcerting about this
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13:33:50 <Gregor> The biggest channel I've spawned is #irp.
13:34:30 <quintopia> or, you know, invent something cooler
13:35:44 <Gregor> I've invented cooler things SO HARD
13:37:49 <ais523_> #irp is a honeypot for redditors, of course it's large
13:40:48 <quintopia> ...what cooler thing have you invented that's popular enough for an IRC channel?
13:41:14 <quintopia> and wtf there's only 14 ppl in there...
13:42:24 <quintopia> no, what you have to do is 1) make something so useful that everyone wants to use it and 2) make it so unstable and undocumented that no one can use it without asking for support at least once a day
13:42:34 <quintopia> that's how every other channel on this network works!
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15:53:22 <lambdabot> Phantom_Hoover: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
15:53:47 <Gregor> Hey, lambdabot, do I have messages?
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15:59:15 <zzo38> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Security-by-PostIt.aspx
16:07:44 <Phantom_Hoover> Gregor, elliott has tracked down irrefutable evidence that you are a Homestuck fan: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liwtoypfRM1qiusb3o1_500.png
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17:03:38 <Vorpal> Phantom_Hoover, hey, do you know if elliott read problem sleuth?
17:05:07 <Vorpal> I finished it in about 4-5 hours (it is rather quicker to read than homestuck, not only is it shorter, but there are no flash, and there is *much* less dialogue)
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17:15:27 <Vorpal> Phantom_Hoover, maybe another day. I can't do too much of it in a single day :P
17:19:59 <Vorpal> Phantom_Hoover, I have to say problem sleuth is quite good. Since you linked me to a cool looking thing in the middle I will do the same for you (it probably won't spoil much if you haven't even started the story): http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=000787
17:20:16 <Vorpal> (and even if you knew what it was about it isn't really much of a spoiler)
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17:38:38 <tzxn3> http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/FURscript lol
17:39:20 <Ilari> APNIC: 1k+/32 to Hong Kong, 4x1k+/32+/48 to Indonesia, 2x1k to India, 2x1k+/32+/48 to Japan, 1k to South Korea, 1k to Mongolia, 1k to Malaysia, 1k to Philipphines, 1k+/32 to Singapore, 1k to Thailand
17:39:32 <Vorpal> tzxn3, http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:FURscript
17:39:41 <Vorpal> Ilari, how is RIPE wrt IPv4?
17:40:00 <Ilari> crystal-cola: Oh, I used that faster algo to find all irreducable pairs up to 2^32. Found 102 of those.
17:41:00 <Ilari> Latest bar on weekly graph (25th) is 3.97 blocks left.
17:41:39 <Vorpal> Ilari, hasn't depleted terribly fast then?
17:41:52 <Ilari> Down 0.04 in a week (with APNIC at its wildest, that in a day would have been a quiet day).
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17:42:58 <Phantom_Hoover> From the space-filling structure, I'd hazard a guess that it's a methyl group, but that just raises further questions.
17:43:35 <Vorpal> Phantom_Hoover, why is that
17:43:38 <tzxn3> Phantom_Hoover: what do you want to know?
17:44:22 <Phantom_Hoover> Vorpal, in the abstract liney formula, a methyl group would just be an unadorned straight line; the squiggle isn't needed.
17:45:07 <tzxn3> I've always wondered what the squiggles meant
17:45:49 <tzxn3> wavy lines represent either unknown stereochemistry or a mixture of the two possible stereoisomers at that point
17:45:51 <Vorpal> Phantom_Hoover, maybe this one is a bit easier to see in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Methamphetamine2.png
17:45:54 <tzxn3> according to wikipedia
17:46:09 <Ilari> ARIN has 4.83 blocks.
17:46:48 <Vorpal> Ilari, IMO it should be handed out equally over the world
17:47:23 <Vorpal> plus routing considerations and so on
17:47:50 <Vorpal> Ilari, why? Because then *still ongoing lingering with upgrading* is taking way to much time. APNIC would eat up the remaining bits in a matter of months
17:48:25 <Vorpal> (much faster than africa anyway)
17:48:59 <Vorpal> Ilari, by the way, who allocates IPs to Antarctica? There are a few polar bases down there after all
17:49:37 <ais523_> are there network cables running all the way through antartica?
17:49:42 <ais523_> it seems much more plausible that they use satellite
17:49:51 <ais523_> in which case it'd be based on the satellite company's IP blocks
17:50:06 <ais523_> and given that none of them operate out of Antarctica...
17:50:39 <Ilari> crystal-cola: http://pastebin.ca/2051637
17:50:43 <Phantom_Hoover> tzxn3, ah, right, I realised why the wiggly line is there
17:50:54 <Phantom_Hoover> The methyl group could be on either side of the carbon.
17:50:55 <Vorpal> (I presume the former)
17:51:20 <tzxn3> I was thinking are those two positions equivalent?
17:52:21 <Ilari> crystal-cola: I noticed (but didn't prove) the following pattern: If composite k has solutions, then there exists prime factor p of k such that k/p has a solution.
17:52:49 <tzxn3> I haven't done chirality yet
17:53:04 <tzxn3> I remember reading a suggestion for a chemistry-based language
17:53:20 <ais523_> Vorpal: satellite companies
17:54:34 <Ilari> Hmm... Few weeks old NRO delegated file doesn't list any blocks delegated to antarctica. :-)
17:55:25 <fizzie> There are inetnum-class networks entries in e.g. RIPE whois with "country: aq", but they are from larger non-antarctic blocks.
17:55:37 <Ilari> crystal-cola: 'set logscale y'?
17:57:24 <Ilari> Seems like some sort of power (not exponential) relationship with order.
17:58:37 <Ilari> crystal-cola: What happens if you also set x axis to logaritmic?
17:59:45 <Ilari> crystal-cola: What is the approximate slope?
18:00:19 <quintopia> things following a power law appear most linear on a log-log plot. most things are only somewhat linear
18:04:00 <Ilari> Or actually, what's approximate slope of log(k) vs. log(rank)?
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18:07:42 <Ilari> Seems to be approximately 4.75.
18:08:50 <crystal-cola> I wonder if these pairs could be reduced any more
18:09:12 <Ilari> Would require a new theorem about combining.
18:09:17 <crystal-cola> the way 17 (and other small numbers) keep appearing suggests it
18:09:46 <Ilari> Oh, some numbers require prime powers to "stabilize".
18:11:11 <Ilari> Smallest example is 1 002 541 (17*17*3469).
18:13:04 <Ilari> The current known ways to derive k values: gcd of two valid k's is a valid k (with r_min being maximum of the two). Valid k times any factor of itself is a valid k (with r_min the same as original).
18:14:52 <Ilari> Well, the current best test: Compute 3^k mod k and 5^k mod k, then square them up to log_2(k) times, seeing if you get the same values.
18:15:38 <crystal-cola> modularPower (modularPower 3 3469 3469) (2^k) 3469
18:16:06 <crystal-cola> I suppose I could change 2^k for modularPower 2 k (3469-1)
18:16:19 <crystal-cola> then again repeated squraing is probably faster
18:19:10 <Ilari> Then there's following: If p is a valid prime k, then for any prime p*2^a+1, p(p*2^a+1) is a valid k.
18:19:45 <crystal-cola> that explains why the mersenne primes are there
18:20:11 <Ilari> crystal-cola: The reason why mersenne primes are there is that mersenne primes have phi(p) = 2^x
18:20:41 <Ilari> crystal-cola: Except 3 and 5, they won't appear because of 5^n and 3^n.
18:24:23 <Ilari> BTW: If you have any odd prime p and q (p!=q), then n|p^n-q^n would behave in very similar manner to n|5^n-3^n. k=1 would be there with r_min of 0. Fermat primes (except p and q if those happen to be fermat primes) would be there. And of course, a host of other values (of course different this time).
18:25:20 <Ilari> That n->2n would hold, k1,k2 -> gcd(k1,k2) would hold. f|k,k -> fk would hold.
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18:26:20 <crystal-cola> so it might be worth studying the general case
18:26:55 <Ilari> In fact, those probably hold for any odd bases.
18:29:13 <Ilari> Wonder if 5^n-3^n has any sophie-germain primes. 9^n-7^n definitely has (5*11)
18:29:43 <Ilari> Actually, if lower prime in such pair is hit, then it will "stabilize" the upper one.
18:30:49 <Ilari> Hah. n|9^n-7^n will hit k=5, which will "stabilize" a huge array of diffrent primes.
18:32:07 <Ilari> Something like 238 irreducable ones below 40M.
18:33:03 <Ilari> Well, I mean primes that can't appear there alone, such as 137 ("stabilized" by 17) for n|5^n-3^n.
18:34:18 <Ilari> Could be interesting to prove or disprove that term-removing stuff (you can always remove some prime factor from any valid k and get a new valid k).
18:42:11 <Ilari> At least it is true for all k less than 2^32, but is there larger k for what it fails?
18:43:05 <Ilari> Also, if it fails for any k, it fails for some irreducable k (and the smallest k which it fails is actually irreducable).
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18:57:53 <Ilari> Well, looks like that prime factor removing actually holds (a slightly stronger version: The largest prime factor can be removed).
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19:33:00 <oerjan> <Phantom_Hoover> Hey, lambdabot, do I have messages?
19:33:16 <oerjan> interestingly, there's a @messages? command for that purpose
19:33:52 <oerjan> @tell oerjan Testing...
19:34:15 <oerjan> @tell lambdabot You fiend of science!
19:34:34 <fizzie> @tell oerjan something interesting; I mean, assuming you wanted to actually test something else than that yourself-thing.
19:35:00 <lambdabot> oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
19:35:45 <oerjan> i wanted to test if /msg lambdabot without a command would trigger the message thing
19:36:46 <lifthrasiir> unfortunately "@tell \0 hello?" will be stripped from the server
19:36:56 * oerjan now wonders how many age old unread messages lambdabot has stored...
19:38:09 <Zwaarddijk> I'd leave backdoors to some kind of searchable log of all messages
19:38:27 <oerjan> obviously the messages are stored _somewhere_
19:38:29 <Gregor> Good to know, for future reference, that you're an asshole :P
19:38:31 <Zwaarddijk> and make the masonic ritual for getting through that backdoor highly arcance
19:38:57 <Zwaarddijk> is the right designation for you then?
19:39:07 <olsner> just connect the message service to the quote service, plobrem sloved
19:39:10 <Gregor> No, I think "vaguely honest person" is closer.
19:40:05 <oerjan> lambdabot already has a backdoor anyway... it doesn't check whether you are faking the nick
19:40:50 <Gregor> I was about to test that :P
19:41:00 <Gregor> @tell NobodyImportant EVIL SECRETS!
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19:41:13 <lambdabot> NobodyImportant: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
19:41:18 <lambdabot> Gregor said 17s ago: EVIL SECRETS!
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19:41:25 <oerjan> obviously it cannot do that without prohibiting messages to unregistered people
19:41:41 <Gregor> It could work by hostname *shrugs*
19:42:10 <fizzie> It could also probe NickServ to find out whether a nick is registered in general, and then do the is-identified check only for registered names.
19:42:14 <fizzie> A bit overcomplicated.
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20:05:20 <ais523> hmm, I wonder if NobodyImportant from #esoteric knows NoOneImportant from BlogNomic?
20:06:48 <oerjan> maybe there is a huge conspiracy of unimportant people
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20:42:11 <Phantom_Hoover> [[So I'm not saying college does not have a use, I'm just saying that if you're the type of kid who, at 18, hasn't quite formed a complete and detailed plan for the next sixty years of your life, then you're probably not majoring in Esoteric Quantum Engineering.]] — Cracked
20:44:41 <oerjan> you _do_ know cracked articles use humor, right?
20:45:14 <Phantom_Hoover> I do, but equating intelligence with practicality is... hardly grounded in reality.
20:45:53 <oerjan> yes. especially for people such as me who are hardly grounded in reality.
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21:36:23 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover, please read http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml .
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22:07:01 <Ilari> Hah, LHe cooling reminds me of that AMD demo about extreme overclocking. I'm surprised that the extreme cold didn't crash the system.
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22:09:17 <elliottcable> 21:29:03 Phantom_Hoover : elliottcable, please go away.
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22:11:31 <Ilari> I mean, the cold surely alters the carrier mobility and thus transistor parameters a lot.
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