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00:10:25 <shachaf> kmc: when's your interview
00:10:48 <shachaf> andor flight
00:11:07 <elliott> kmc's flying to andor?
00:11:30 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor
00:11:32 <shachaf> Andor may refer to:
00:11:34 <shachaf> And/or, logical conjunction
00:11:39 <shachaf> oerjan: plz fix thx
00:21:15 <kmc> interview tomorrow @ 11am
00:21:19 <kmc> flight the day after in afternoon
00:22:25 <elliott> how can you do anything at 11 am
00:23:49 <shachaf> kmc: do the trains at at&t park go at 3mph like in palo alto
00:25:34 <kmc> elliott: drugz
00:25:36 <kmc> caffeinez
00:25:52 <elliott> you can't use the caffeinz when you're still asleepz
00:27:01 <shachaf> you can when you have an iv drip hth
00:27:15 <shachaf> hack ur bloodstream
00:28:35 <ion> Great life hacks: DIY IV caffeine drip
00:29:12 <elliott> only kmc is that into drugz
00:30:35 * pikhq_ sputters a bit at Haswell.
00:30:45 <Bike> hm?
00:30:50 <pikhq_> So, they're sticking GPU RAM on-die.
00:30:57 <kmc> i think i can go with almost arbitrarily little sleep, for one night
00:30:58 <pikhq_> It's being shared with the CPU as L4 cache.
00:31:02 <Bike> i have a need for speed
00:31:04 <kmc> nice
00:31:05 <Bike> oh
00:31:19 <pikhq_> That is to say, shortly there will be CPUs with 128M L4.
00:31:50 <kmc> good
00:31:54 <kmc> what's the latency
00:32:21 <elliott> i'd like a job that starts at 2 pm please & thank you
00:32:34 <pikhq_> Um... ~30 ns?
00:33:05 <kmc> i was looking at http://duartes.org/gustavo/blog/post/what-your-computer-does-while-you-wait again
00:33:38 <kmc> "To put this into perspective, reading from L1 cache is like grabbing a piece of paper from your desk (3 seconds), L2 cache is picking up a book from a nearby shelf (14 seconds), and main system memory is taking a 4-minute walk down the hall to buy a Twix bar.... Keeping with the office analogy, waiting for a hard drive seek is like leaving the building to roam the earth for one year and three months."
00:34:28 <elliott> computers, actually based on twixes
00:34:31 <mnoqy> that sounds like poor time management
00:34:41 <kmc> josh has given a review of "Sketches of Spain" by Miles Davis
00:34:44 <elliott> what do you have against twix mnoqy
00:34:45 <Bike> computers have a need to be free and spiritual.
00:34:48 <kmc> "it sounds like how i imagine spain might sound like"
00:34:53 <elliott> ok who is this josh guy you're all suddenly talking about.
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00:34:57 <mnoqy> elliott: well, mostly the roaming the earth part
00:35:02 <Bike> tosh.0
00:35:10 <Bike> i was just wandering the earth before i stopped being afk
00:35:12 <Bike> doyou hate me
00:35:24 <kmc> elliott: a friend of mine who shachaf had the (mis)fortune of meeting
00:35:26 * kmc → afk
00:35:40 <mnoqy> no, i just think maybe you should consider investing your time in something better
00:36:05 <shachaf> Bike: thats a euphemism for "yes i h8 u"
00:36:06 <Bike> btw what's the internet in this analogy
00:36:07 <elliott> mnoqy: i think you'll find roaming the earth is more fun than a job
00:36:10 <Bike> a trip to pluto?
00:36:16 <elliott> Bike: it's the internet
00:36:20 <elliott> the internet is looking something up on the internet
00:36:24 <elliott> but you have a really slow connection
00:36:30 <elliott> so it takes a million years to load google
00:36:32 <Bike> oh no :(
00:36:38 <elliott> and you die
00:36:38 <mnoqy> elliott: yeah but just think of all the twixes you could buy in a year and three months
00:36:44 <shachaf> elliott: oh no
00:36:44 <elliott> mnoqy: i'm seeing your point
00:36:50 <shachaf> elliott: is that what packet loss is
00:36:59 <elliott> TODO: spend a year buying twixes, i bet i could make a popular blog around this concept
00:37:00 <shachaf> mnoqy: how about all the Flakes you could buy
00:37:14 <shachaf> mnoqy: have you ever had a Flake, i have
00:37:20 <mnoqy> i've never had a flake
00:37:25 <Bike> elliott: call it "Instead Of Reading From Disk", confuse everyone
00:37:27 <Bike> except us
00:37:53 <shachaf> mnoqy: want a flake
00:38:00 <elliott> i miss cpressey already
00:38:12 <shachaf> cpressey: i miss you too
00:38:56 <Bike> jsvine is gone too.
00:39:01 <Bike> is there nothing left?
00:39:11 <mnoqy> did the interview even really happen
00:39:27 <mnoqy> maybe we all just did a bunch of drugs on an island or something
00:39:54 <Bike> the esolangers interview was later made into a popular TV show, The Prisoner
00:40:09 <elliott> mnoqy: the term is "drugz" now
00:40:16 <pikhq_> Bike: Haaah.
00:40:46 <Bike> I'd rather be in Twin Peaks but i don't think we have what it takes.
00:41:28 <zzo38> mnoqy: If the interview is logged, does that mean the log also did a bunch of drugz on an island or something?
00:42:31 <mnoqy> it could happen
00:45:22 <zzo38> Trip to Pluto? But, which glyph do you want to use for Pluto? (I like the "PL" glyph; the other one is too similar to the Neptune glyph.)
00:47:48 <mnoqy> i don't think i'd want to go to pluto
00:48:13 <shachaf> y would u go to pluto it s not even a planet
00:48:29 <zzo38> It is too far away; I don't want to go there, either.
00:48:38 <zzo38> There are other problems too.
00:48:54 <Phantom_Hoover> wtf, cpressey left
00:48:56 <Phantom_Hoover> ok
00:49:04 <Phantom_Hoover> are we sure the entire jsvine episode wasn't just a fever-dream
00:49:13 <shachaf> can you imagine: pluto became a planet in 1930 and stopped being one in 2006
00:49:25 <Phantom_Hoover> i mean let's face it, it's incredibly improbably
00:49:27 <Phantom_Hoover> *improbable
00:49:37 <zzo38> Well, look at the logs; if it is in the logs, then it isn't just a fever-dream (unless the logs are also a fever-dream)
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00:50:02 <shachaf> that's only 76 years of being a planet
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00:50:04 <zzo38> I don't like the IAU's new definition of a planet; I think both Pluto and Eris should be considered planets too, and so do some others.
00:50:10 <shachaf> raymond smullyan was discovered before pluto
00:50:45 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: well he said he wouldn't be around much post-interview
00:50:46 <zzo38> But even if you follow the IAU's definition and call them dwarf planets and not planets, all the dwarf planets also ought to have glyphs assigned.
00:50:48 <shachaf> now it has to spend the rest of its life not being a planet "how do you think it feels"
00:51:03 <elliott> shachaf: i like the trivia of it not completing an orbit in the entire time it was a planet
00:51:17 <Bike> better luck next time, kuiper belt object
00:51:38 <Bike> and when i say "next time" i mean when humans are dead or whatever and some other species comes along and calls you a planet and then stops calling you a planet
00:51:53 <Bike> TRY TO MAKE IT LAST!
00:52:03 <zzo38> Some of them already do have glyphs, I have seen listed on some webpage about astrology, I don't think the IAU uses them, though (they don't care about astrology). But I think it doesn't matter if you don't care about astrology, you can use them anyways, including astronomy.
00:53:00 <Phantom_Hoover> holy shit jon ronson's guardian columns are online
00:53:04 <Phantom_Hoover> must avoid urge to binge
00:54:24 <zzo38> There are also two glyphs for Uranus; which one do you want to use?
00:55:19 <Bike> second one
00:55:39 <Phantom_Hoover> third one
00:55:57 <zzo38> Second one? Third one? In what list are these the second and third one?
00:56:51 <Phantom_Hoover> "maybe they won't be as good if you read them now", i thought
00:56:59 <Phantom_Hoover> i was wrong
00:57:21 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: the great thing about saying "Maybe" is that you can't be wrong
00:57:24 <shachaf> hth
00:57:38 <Phantom_Hoover> no
00:57:52 <Phantom_Hoover> i realise now that it was a fundamental impossibility for them not to be amazing
00:58:16 <Bike> oh, the men who stare at goats
00:58:20 <Bike> i have a copy and i still haven't read it
00:58:37 <Bike> what's he usually write about
00:58:38 <Bike> is he dead
01:00:03 <Phantom_Hoover> well his guardian columns were just his daily life written up in an incredibly funny way
01:00:16 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/sep/11/weekend.jonronson is the first
01:02:53 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/jan/15/weekend.jonronson oh my god
01:04:28 <Bike> good story
01:08:12 <shachaf> my name is jon ronson, i work in wisconsin
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01:10:19 <TastyToast> So I just posted a new language on the wiki ( http://esolangs.org/wiki/Binaryfuck ), but I'm curious to know if anything similar has been done before. Does this look similar to anyone? I feel like the possibilities that I was the first one to think of something like this would be very slim
01:10:45 <shachaf> now you've done it, TastyToast
01:11:06 <shachaf> get out of here while you still have a chance
01:11:27 <shachaf> there are bricks that you haven't even... you have no idea
01:11:28 <mnoqy> it looks similar to brainfuck and also a billion other brainfuck equivalents
01:11:36 <zzo38> I think someone else has done similar thing
01:11:42 <mnoqy> ook
01:11:44 <mnoqy> fuckfuck
01:11:53 <mnoqy> blub
01:11:56 <zzo38> But it is better than the similar ones, actually
01:11:59 <elliott> there is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Spoon
01:12:04 <Bike> doesn't this exact thing exist
01:12:26 <mnoqy> brainfnord
01:12:38 <mnoqy> ellipsis
01:12:52 <mnoqy> TastyToast: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Triplet the most similar
01:12:53 <Bike> well, Brainfuck/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brainfuck/index.php is best
01:12:58 <elliott> Bike: ty
01:13:12 <Bike> yw
01:13:24 <mnoqy> wordfuck, verbosefuck
01:13:38 <mnoqy> zzz
01:13:42 <zzo38> My own way would be a bit different: The least significant bits correspond to the first instruction of the program, and ] is zero. This way the program ends automatically.
01:13:55 <mnoqy> god damn why are there so many brainfuck equivalents just kill me
01:14:12 <mnoqy> Headsecks
01:14:20 <Bike> basically, toastytoast, it's similar to everything done before, and there is nothing new under the sun. before god we are all but dust. praise be unto him, you vanity of vainness
01:14:23 <mnoqy> pogaack
01:14:39 <mnoqy> ascii art
01:14:39 <Sgeo> I think a binary encoding of BF should specify how to pad to fit into an integer number of bytes
01:14:43 <elliott> hm i find the 2001 claim on triplet's article suspect
01:14:48 <Bike> bytes suck
01:14:53 <elliott> given the username TripletMaker and the "fork" from Ook! article claim
01:14:56 <elliott> suspect it should be 2011 instead
01:15:20 <coppro> if A is a language, what is P(A) and NP(A) again?
01:15:21 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: pls link more jon ronson articles
01:15:26 <mnoqy> oOo code is pretty simialr too http://esolangs.org/wiki/OOo_CODE
01:15:33 <mnoqy> and mgifos
01:15:44 <mnoqy> revolution 9
01:15:45 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/sep/25/weekend.jonronson
01:15:58 <mnoqy> hi Phantom_Hoover
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01:16:16 <TastyToast> well, I knew it couldnt have been similar
01:16:23 <mnoqy> there once was a fish named fred
01:16:30 <TastyToast> freddy the fish
01:16:35 <mnoqy> unary
01:16:45 <TastyToast> So.. Aren't all turing complete languages essentially brainfuck
01:16:51 <Bike> Phantom_Hoover: birth of a weeaboo
01:17:04 <mnoqy> TastyToast: no ☺
01:17:05 <Bike> TastyToast: only in a sense that's less boring than the sense in which all the binary codings of brainfuck are brainfuck.
01:17:44 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/oct/02/weekend.jonronson
01:18:00 <TastyToast> well, we all gotta start somewhere
01:18:01 <TastyToast> :)
01:18:07 <Bike> quite
01:18:14 <Bike> i guess it's like starting out conlanging with a relex
01:18:20 <Bike> ification
01:18:24 <Bike> i don't think that's actually a word but
01:18:30 <elliott> 02:15:45 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/sep/25/weekend.jonronson
01:18:33 <elliott> this one was fantastic
01:18:47 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/oct/09/weekend.jonronson
01:18:59 <Phantom_Hoover> yes, it was
01:20:41 <elliott> wow these are so good
01:21:25 <Bike> Oh, he says.
01:22:34 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/oct/23/weekend.jonronson
01:23:54 <Phantom_Hoover> (have you all figured out how to work the guardian website and can i stop linking these)
01:24:08 <elliott> no and no
01:25:08 <Phantom_Hoover> TastyToast, i hear you made a brainfuck derivative, i hate you, i will brick your brain, etc.
01:25:18 <Phantom_Hoover> back to ronson http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/nov/06/weekend.jonronson
01:30:15 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/nov/27/weekend.jonronson
01:31:59 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/dec/04/weekend.jonronson and on this chilling note i will end tonight's ronson session
01:32:26 <elliott> noooo
01:35:35 <shachaf> ==elliott
01:35:48 <Phantom_Hoover> you realise you can click on the author's name and get a list of all his articles ever right
01:35:53 <elliott> IT'S NOT THE SAME
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01:36:12 <shachaf> ==elliott
01:36:24 <kmc> i went to the 97¢ Store today
01:36:31 <kmc> glad to see the race to the bottom continues unabated
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01:37:08 <shachaf> kmc: did they have pizza
01:38:34 <kmc> no
01:40:39 <Phantom_Hoover> kmc, so is that like poundland but with a shittier gimmick
01:40:45 <Phantom_Hoover> and even shittier wares, i guess
01:41:03 <elliott> i think i once saw something that didn't cost a pound in poundland
01:41:08 <elliott> i think i was scandalised
01:41:32 <shachaf> hang on hang on "poundland"........................................?
01:42:23 <kmc> yeah 'dollar store' is a common genre of store and often it's 99¢ store or 98¢ store, and sometimes 97¢
01:43:00 <Phantom_Hoover> ohhh
01:43:10 <shachaf> i remember dollar stores in .il
01:43:12 <Bike> isn't a pound worth likea billion dollars.
01:43:16 <Phantom_Hoover> i was thinking "so what, they don't have dollar stores in america for some crazy reason"
01:43:33 <Phantom_Hoover> "they need to make it 97 cents? for tax reasons?"
01:43:35 <shachaf> they used to have things for ₪4 each
01:43:46 <shachaf> no.....
01:43:55 <shachaf> it was ₪5
01:43:59 <shachaf> and then ₪4
01:44:01 <shachaf> or something
01:44:05 <shachaf> those are the prices i remember anyway
01:44:52 <elliott> 87¢ store
01:45:50 <Gregor> Eventually there's a 1¢ store, and they figure they've cornered the market, but the ½¢ store just charges by pairs of items.
01:46:02 <shachaf> Gregor: did you read that one story..............................
01:46:04 <shachaf> _The Bottle Imp_
01:46:09 <shachaf> @google the bottle imp
01:46:09 <kmc> also not all of the things in the 97/ store are 97¢
01:46:10 <lambdabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bottle_Imp
01:46:10 <lambdabot> Title: The Bottle Imp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:46:16 <shachaf> @google the bottle imp text
01:46:17 <lambdabot> http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/bottlimp.htm
01:46:17 <lambdabot> Title: The bottle imp (1893) by Robert Louis Stevenson
01:46:20 <kmc> usually the full store name is like "99¢ CENTS OR LESS and up"
01:46:25 <kmc> with the "and up" in much smaller letters
01:46:33 <shachaf> ☝ good short story hth
01:46:52 <Gregor> wut
01:47:08 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: i need more articles
01:47:08 <shachaf> 1893
01:47:12 <shachaf> Robert Louis Stevenson
01:48:11 <Phantom_Hoover> no elliott you have to learn to delay gratification
01:48:32 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: no i don't
01:48:36 <elliott> that's a made up thing
01:48:39 <Phantom_Hoover> alternately: bring back news-ham and i'll keep the articles flowing
01:48:45 <elliott> how... how could you
01:49:00 <Phantom_Hoover> how could YOU lose the source???
01:49:00 <shachaf> what's news-ham
01:49:18 <Phantom_Hoover> or allow something so perfect to be deactivated so callously
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01:49:35 <shachaf> Oh.
01:49:48 <Phantom_Hoover> what are the haps my friends
01:50:01 <news-ham> bbc.co.uk
01:50:32 <shachaf> news-ham: hi
01:50:38 <elliott> news-ham: that's not how it works...
01:50:48 <Phantom_Hoover> that's awful
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01:51:06 <Phantom_Hoover> i would retract the articles i have linked if i could
01:51:27 <Bike> news-ham sounds like a job in Hamtaro, the hit children's cartoon
01:52:28 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: Are you asfjad?
01:53:06 <Phantom_Hoover> no
01:53:09 <mnoqy> probably nobody here knows who asfjad is, shachaf
01:53:31 <shachaf> mnoqy: news-ham is asfjad
01:53:40 <mnoqy> no, news-ham is dajfsa
01:54:14 <shachaf> asfjad is dajfsa too
01:54:20 <mnoqy> hm, that makes sense
01:54:40 <shachaf> also this person is..........."mighty suspicious".........
01:54:48 <mnoqy> have we ever seen this "dajfsa" around before
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03:35:50 <zzo38> I have been in dollar stores, the prices usually range from $0.30 to $1.25 and are usually $1.00 on average; sometimes there are more expensive items but they are still usually cost less than those things would ordinarily cost.
03:38:37 <irene-knapp> mostly because the things are made very cheaply :)
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04:52:57 <zzo38> According to Wikipedia, "An axiom system discovered by Jan Lukasiewicz formulates a propositional calculus in this language as follows": (p -> (p -> q)), ((p -> (q -> r)) -> ((p -> q) -> (p -> r))), ((~p -> ~q) -> (q -> p)), (p, (p -> q) |- q). Without the third one, this seems the SK calculus. Did Lukasiewicz invent the SK calculus?
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04:55:34 <zzo38> Could it be replaced with the "fantasy rule" to make lambda calculus?
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05:13:40 <zzo38> Which keys and mouse do you use and don't use?
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06:23:42 <zzo38> Do you know if there is any command in SDL to figure out the directory that the program is in?
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07:22:51 <zzo38> My Z-machine interpreter "Fweep" is now completely working (I think), so now I am making another Z-machine interpreter "Aimfiz", for use with SDL.
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08:53:37 <kmc> TIL that the band Orbital is named after the M25
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10:19:07 <elliott> til that kmc is named after i was relying on thinking of a punchline by the time i typed this far
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10:39:48 <shachaf> `pastequotes mnoqy
10:39:55 <mnoqy> hi
10:39:57 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27447
10:40:03 <shachaf> uh
10:40:08 <shachaf> why isn ' t that text/plain
10:40:13 <mnoqy> because of a bold
10:40:26 <shachaf> or is it
10:40:29 <mnoqy> (it is)
10:40:47 <shachaf> why is my browser offering to download
10:40:50 <Jafet> Cobold
10:40:53 <mnoqy> because of a bold
10:41:00 <mnoqy> ther'es only one mnoqy quote and it;'s the one you added with the bold in it
10:41:05 <mnoqy> yesterday or so
10:41:25 <shachaf> `quote mnoqy
10:41:27 <HackEgo> 1044) <mnoqy> the theory's probably not bad, but calculus is one of those things that's so dang applicable that everyone only ever talks about how to apply it and compute with it and uuuuurgh(barf) <mnoqy> so i stay away from it
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12:26:12 <xantrixo> How could this be done in an esoteric lang? :D http://pastebin.com/eGqD0f16
12:27:33 <Taneb> xantrixo, esoteric programming languages are very diverse, did you have any particular one in mind?
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12:28:02 <xantrixo> Taneb: Your choice :) just interested to see how it would look.
12:28:36 <xantrixo> http://pastebin.com/bTh7Ttfe
12:28:41 <xantrixo> Is what my program does
12:29:30 <Taneb> Well, in some languages this is impossible (for instance Bitwise Cycling Tag and HQ9+)
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12:30:46 <Taneb> I wouldn't like to implement it in a primarily numeric language like Piet
12:31:07 <xantrixo> I see.
12:32:24 <xantrixo> Bitwise Cycling Tag would be interested ot see it in that
12:32:42 <Taneb> xantrixo, it's impossible because BCT lacks any form of IO
12:33:04 <xantrixo> Oh sorry, I misread and thought you said it is possible
12:33:11 <xantrixo> My bad.
12:33:39 <xantrixo> Taneb: How about in J?
12:33:54 <Taneb> I don't know anything about J
12:34:37 <xantrixo> What do you know?
12:35:03 <Taneb> Some things
12:35:14 <Taneb> For instance the capital city of the US state of Montana
12:36:07 <xantrixo> Taneb: What esoteric language do you know, is what I meant.
12:36:52 <Taneb> Piet, brainfuck, Befunge, Fueue, Underload, Thue...
12:37:43 <xantrixo> Taneb: How could it be done in underload?
12:37:56 <Taneb> Well, Underload can't do input
12:38:04 <Taneb> Or string equality
12:38:13 <Taneb> So it probably can't
12:38:15 <xantrixo> And befunge?
12:38:26 <Taneb> It could be done in Befunge a LOT easier
12:38:52 <xantrixo> Would be interested in seeing this.
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13:22:54 <boily> good humid morning all!
13:23:48 <Taneb> Hi
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14:55:12 <boily> Taneb: seems that there are only the two of us today. any Great News about Intelligesoteritsia?
14:58:11 <Taneb> Not really
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14:59:06 <boily> not even an update on the II?
14:59:26 <xantrixo> I have been here waiting a while for my solution
15:00:13 <boily> xantrixo: o hai! what is the Original Problem pertaining to your The Solution?
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15:00:40 <xantrixo> <xantrixo> How could this be done in an esoteric lang? :D http://pastebin.com/eGqD0f16
15:00:50 <xantrixo> http://pastebin.com/bTh7Ttfe
15:00:56 <xantrixo> Is what my program does
15:03:56 <boily> oh hm. you could transcompile what you wrote into brainfuck. maybe some sick^W twisted^W alternatively minded person from this fine channel has already done the job (or part thereof).
15:05:51 <xantrixo> and befunge? :D
15:05:55 <xantrixo> or golfscript?
15:06:22 <boily> xantrixo: after the first step, you just write a bf interpreter into your esolang of choice :D
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15:46:07 <boily> http://www.haskellforall.com/2013/05/program-imperatively-using-haskell.html ← shmock bait. another fine and interesting blog article, that will leave me in a temporary state of enlightenment followed by incomprehension and frustration when I try to grok lens by myself afterwards.
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17:15:16 <boily> `quote sprocklem
17:15:18 <HackEgo> No output.
17:15:23 <boily> `relcome sprocklem
17:15:27 <HackEgo> sprocklem: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
17:15:53 <boily> hmm... `relcome lacks enough blue tints.
17:15:57 <boily> `relcome chicken
17:16:01 <HackEgo> chicken: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
17:16:05 <boily> ah! better!
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17:40:16 <quintopia> i wish this keyboard were capable of backticks
17:42:07 <boily> quintopià: what layout are you using?
17:42:42 <quintopia> android
17:42:46 <boily> oh hm.
17:44:34 <boily> if you have an HTC, you can do backquotes with the various chinese input methods.
17:45:49 <quintopia> hah its a moto
17:46:20 <boily> d̀àr̀ǹ.
17:46:37 <fizzie> I've installed that "Hacker's Keyboard" thing from the market to my Android thing. But maybe it's not all that combattible.
17:52:38 <zzo38> I have found that the SDL headers use a similar trick than I did to enforce that types have a certain size.
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18:06:13 <boily> ~metar CYUL
18:06:15 <metasepia> CYUL 031700Z 24013G19KT 15SM SCT030 BKN045 16/08 A2984 RMK SC4SC3 SLP104 DENSITY ALT 300FT
18:06:18 <boily> ~metar EFRO
18:06:18 <metasepia> EFRO 031750Z AUTO VRB03KT 080V150 CAVOK 21/15 Q1014
18:06:28 * boily sighs...
18:06:35 <boily> WHYYYYYY!
18:22:10 <oerjan> <Sgeo> AW citizenship is goinf free <-- this discrimination of goinfs has to end!
18:22:27 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/dec/11/weekend.jonronson RONSON TIME
18:22:53 <boily> ~duck goinf
18:22:53 <metasepia> --- No relevant information
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18:23:20 <oerjan> <shachaf> crossing the runway on a bride?? <-- is this kind of a dual competition to that wife-carrying thing finns love so much?
18:23:53 <oerjan> i suppose that would a mpetition
18:24:38 <oerjan> i guess technically the finns are crossing on grooms
18:26:47 <oerjan> <elliott> I DONT HAVR ONE <-- this is like not having, except more vikingish
18:27:09 <oerjan> i sense an underlying theme to today's logreading
18:27:25 <olsner> I'm not really sensing it, what's the theme?
18:27:28 <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/jan/01/weekend.jonronson (i am mostly doing this to spite elliott)
18:27:49 <oerjan> olsner: to sense it properly, find a mispletoe
18:28:06 <olsner> a mistletoe?
18:28:16 <oerjan> no, a mispletoe.
18:29:14 <olsner> an misspelltoe?
18:29:29 <oerjan> now you're thinking with puntals
18:30:05 <oerjan> <elliott> its insensitive to ask for pics of my nonexistent imaginatinon kmc <-- if elliott can have no imagination, then kmc can have no sense hth
18:31:40 <olsner> hmm, I wonder what I've learned during the last half decade or so, suspect it's not a lot
18:32:00 <oerjan> haskell!
18:32:08 <oerjan> (you have learned haskell, no?)
18:32:51 <olsner> yes, but that might have been mostly longer ago ... not entirely sure when I was learning haskell
18:33:05 <olsner> or when I last learned more haskell
18:33:06 <oerjan> did you learn to eat sushi? (i haven't.)
18:33:48 <olsner> quite sure I still do it wrong, but I'm entirely fine with eating sushi the wrong way
18:34:20 <quintopia> there is no wrong way to eat sushi
18:34:49 <oerjan> maybe there is no wrong way to eat sushi. if someone tries to invent one, the japanese make it into a tv show and then it's not wrong any more.
18:35:18 <quintopia> she doesn't like to be eaten at all, but i suspect she's fine with being eaten out
18:36:10 <Phantom_Hoover> :wat:
18:36:11 <oerjan> eating out is all the rage.
18:37:50 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: angkor
18:37:53 <quintopia> you are talking about my friend @sushimustwrite correct?
18:38:14 <oerjan> i'm sorry i do not know your friend.
18:39:06 <Phantom_Hoover> wat
18:39:26 <oerjan> is your friend bad at english grammar
18:39:29 <quintopia> well she is the internet
18:39:33 <quintopia> do you use the internet
18:39:39 <oerjan> it happens
18:39:52 <quintopia> she is for porn
18:40:09 <Phantom_Hoover> wat
18:40:18 <oerjan> good, someone has to balance out all those against it
18:40:18 <Bike> oh good, it wasn't just me.
18:40:31 <quintopia> she knows she is for porn, tho. she's cool with it.
18:40:44 <oerjan> so she doesn't think the job blows?
18:41:00 <quintopia> well she's not just a big truck man
18:41:10 <quintopia> she's not something you can just dump something on
18:41:11 <Phantom_Hoover> wat http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/feb/05/weekend.jonronson
18:41:36 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: watt
18:41:54 <boily> ouate.
18:42:07 <Phantom_Hoover> NO i will not have the name of watt dragged through the dirt by association with this conversation
18:42:12 <Bike> hm, maybe it's not so bad that they went out of business.
18:42:25 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: but we were just building up steam...
18:42:26 <Phantom_Hoover> who
18:42:41 <Bike> Borders.
18:44:14 <oerjan> borders without doctors
18:45:24 <boily> `quote screaming fternooners
18:45:26 <HackEgo> No output.
18:45:34 <boily> :(
18:46:08 <quintopia> can't spell eh
18:46:49 <boily> I can spell, eh.
18:50:39 <quintopia> what's a fternooner
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18:52:52 <boily> quintopia: it's a nordic delicacy. according to ørjan (or olsner, I always get the two confused), it screams.
18:52:58 <boily> `pastlogs fternooner
18:53:00 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found
18:53:04 <boily> `pastelogs fternooner
18:53:28 * boily whistles while it whiles away...
18:53:41 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17995
18:54:14 <shachaf> oerjan: hi
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18:57:04 <oerjan> jó napot
18:57:19 <boily> ~duck napot
18:57:19 <metasepia> --- No relevant information
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19:00:57 <boily> ~duck napot, I said.
19:00:58 <metasepia> --- No relevant information
19:01:05 <boily> ~duck taneb
19:01:06 <metasepia> --- No relevant information
19:01:11 <boily> stupid duck.
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19:17:24 <olsner> boily: aah, fternooners!
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19:17:40 <olsner> (it's danish though)
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19:22:56 <oerjan> en smuk ftensang
19:24:23 <boily> oerjan: "a beautiful ftensang"???
19:24:39 <oerjan> it is, isn't it
19:25:49 <boily> I can't deny that assertion.
19:27:33 <shachaf> oerjan: did you finish logreading
19:28:05 <oerjan> no
19:30:02 <zzo38> Are some of you good at quantum computing?
19:31:10 <boily> zzo38: I am, and I am not.
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19:39:43 <zzo38> What is a portable way to tell what directory the running C program is in, in a program using SDL?
19:43:11 <oerjan> that is not quantum computing hth
19:44:24 <oerjan> <Phantom_Hoover> TastyToast, i hear you made a brainfuck derivative, i hate you, i will brick your brain, etc. <-- wait does it really count as making a bf derivative if it's identical to an already existing one hth
19:45:38 <Phantom_Hoover> yes
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19:51:39 <boily> I knew it! http://whatsdifferentincanada.tumblr.com/post/51726269607/the-dentist
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19:54:30 <Phantom_Hoover> boily, in canada do you all have awful teeth because of socialised medicine
19:55:47 <boily> Phantom_Hoover: quite the contrary. dentistry is a very private affair here, but usually covered by your dental plan.
19:56:02 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, a few hours ago
19:56:08 <Taneb> There were 8 van Doorns in one room
19:56:29 <Taneb> In the UK
19:56:53 <Taneb> @ping
19:56:53 <lambdabot> pong
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19:58:45 <boily> around christmas, there tends to be a lot of boilys (or is it boilies?) together, which gets very passive-aggressive year after year because of my cousins' lack of imagination.
19:58:55 <boily> (they tend to name their kids the same)
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20:00:27 <oerjan> the octodoorn. we are all doorned.
20:00:45 <shachaf> Taneb: You should've gone to that room!
20:01:01 <Taneb> shachaf, I was in that room!
20:01:09 <Taneb> That room was my dining room!
20:01:15 <oerjan> jean-claude and jean-claude, stop harassing jean-claude!
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20:05:09 <boily> oerjan: no jean-claude yet, sadly. but we do have multiple adams!
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20:05:53 <Taneb> My dad was named after his uncle
20:06:02 <Taneb> As was one of his brothers (a different uncle)
20:06:38 <oerjan> my uncle was named after his dad
20:06:53 <oerjan> only half the name though
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20:41:06 <boily> neat, I can track back my tree up to the settlers who came from France.
20:41:54 <boily> I'm a twelfth generation quebecker.
20:44:55 <Taneb> I'm a first generation Hexhamer
20:46:54 <boily> of course. you're all part of a collective hive mind, and split and form clones. so, counting generations would be a little bit awkward.
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20:49:21 <nooodl_> Taneb: the plural form of "van Doorn" is "vans Doorn" hth
20:49:25 <oerjan> objectivist hive mind
20:49:47 <Taneb> nooodl_, but "van" is a preposition!
20:49:59 <oerjan> nooodl is of course the trial of nodl
20:50:22 <boily> ~duck trial
20:50:23 <metasepia> A trial is, in the most general sense, a test, usually a test to see whether something does or does not meet a given standard.
20:50:38 <nooodl_> the plural form of "van Doorn" is "der Doorns" hth
20:50:58 <boily> nooodl_: are you standardized?
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20:51:36 <boily> I disagree. the plural of "van Doorn" is "les Doornes", but we should still ask our Plural Expert, namely fizzie, for confirmation.
20:52:52 <nooodl_> the plural form of "van Doorn" is "van Stengel" (complicated dutch joke imo)
20:53:17 <oerjan> the joke is quite simple imo
20:53:24 <boily> ~duck stengel
20:53:25 <metasepia> American baseball player and manager, most notably of the New York Yankees, a team he led to ten American League pennants and seven World Series championships.
20:53:39 * boily scratches his head in incomprehension
20:53:42 <nooodl_> imo ~eend for dutch word lookup
20:53:53 <boily> noted!
20:54:13 <Bike> ~eend stengel
20:54:13 <metasepia> --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi
20:54:14 <boily> (that means I should also add ~鴨)
20:54:16 <Bike> bullshit.
20:54:25 <boily> Bike: noted, not implemented.
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20:54:34 <Bike> notimplemented
20:54:35 <nooodl_> ~yi
20:54:36 <metasepia> Your divination: "Diminishing" to "Polarising"
20:54:41 <nooodl_> i
20:57:36 <oerjan> it's 2013 and they _still_ make heating systems without thermostats?
20:58:30 <Koen_> I hear Germany has a super green plan to replace all nuclear plants with coal plants.
21:00:20 <boily> uhm... coal plants irradiate more than nuclear plants...
21:03:05 <Bike> i'm sure it's clean coal!!
21:03:39 <Gregor> Koen_: I shall cry for them :'(
21:04:09 <Koen_> I'm hoping they will replace their nuclear-powered submarines as well
21:04:59 <boily> what do you need a submarine for nowadays, except for scientific research?
21:05:11 <Gregor> lol, coal-powered submarine.
21:05:42 <Phantom__Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/feb/12/weekend.jonronsonhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/feb/12/weekend.jonronson did i link this because i should have
21:06:10 <Bike> twice even
21:06:35 <Phantom__Hoover> fucking copy and paste
21:07:19 <Phantom__Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/feb/19/weekend.jonronson this is even better somehow
21:09:17 <boily> ............................................................................................
21:09:26 <boily> and a ; too, just because you really deserve it.
21:10:12 <Taneb> ...
21:10:23 <Taneb> I just realised that in my head all punctuation sounds like "uh"
21:10:40 <Taneb> So that 'a' really weirded me out
21:10:50 <Taneb> Even though it makes perfect sense and is absolutely correct
21:12:41 <boily> those were French dots. they sound more like [œ〜ə].
21:13:02 <Taneb> I was really talking about the semicolon
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21:14:42 <boily> he... he disappeared! nooooooo!
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21:18:57 <boily> anyone here that can reasonably impersonate Taneb?
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21:32:56 <olsner> anyone know which values I want in which registers?
21:34:24 <olsner> (one of them is now "1" and that's wrong because that's not mapped anywhere in memory)
21:36:33 <oerjan> surely you want 42 somewhere hth
21:38:29 <olsner> Surely. But where? r12?
21:55:21 <myndzi> hey guys. no game of thrones s3e9 spoilers here: http://i.imgur.com/SbKfThn.gif
21:55:22 <myndzi> just thought i'd share
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22:53:19 <Koen_> experience tends to show that if you've had your nose broken less than four years ago and suddenly spend more than fifty hours without sleeping, you should be very careful while blowing it
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23:46:53 <Phantom__Hoover> http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/feb/26/weekend.jonronson i wonder if elliott is even listening
23:49:01 <Bike> Omen had a sequel? Why?
23:50:27 <Phantom__Hoover> because it was a horror movie and that's one of the fundamental rules of the world
23:51:53 <Bike> was there like a sequel to The Thing
23:54:49 <Phantom__Hoover> no
23:55:46 <Bike> WRONG! The video game was a sequel. You've failed.
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