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00:55:59 <oerjan> `run ls wisdom/iss*
00:56:01 <HackEgo> wisdom/issues
00:56:13 <oerjan> `run mv wisdom/issue{s,}
00:56:17 <HackEgo> No output.
00:56:20 <oerjan> `? issue
00:56:22 <HackEgo> You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry.
00:56:34 <oerjan> much better.
00:56:47 <oerjan> `run ls -l wisdom/iss*
00:56:49 <HackEgo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Jan 18 00:56 wisdom/issue -> .doorstop
01:05:55 <oerjan> `run ls -l perp*
01:05:57 <HackEgo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 25 Dec 26 18:32 perpetual motion machine -> ./wisdom/perpetuum mobile
01:06:03 <oerjan> `run ls -l wisdom/perp*
01:06:05 <HackEgo> ​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 107 Dec 26 18:30 wisdom/perpetual motion machine \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 24 Dec 26 20:43 wisdom/perpetuum mobile -> perpetual motion machine
01:06:24 <oerjan> `rm perpetual motion machine
01:06:28 <HackEgo> No output.
01:06:39 <oerjan> `? perpetuum mobile
01:06:41 <HackEgo> Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy.
01:07:05 <oerjan> `ls
01:07:07 <HackEgo> ​- \ 98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bi \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ file \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ mind \ paste \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ this \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf \ ,}wolfram
01:07:32 <oerjan> `file ,}wolfram
01:07:33 <HackEgo> ​,}wolfram: broken symbolic link to `wisdom/{stephen'
01:07:50 <oerjan> `rm ,}wolfram
01:07:53 <HackEgo> No output.
01:07:55 <oerjan> `? wolfram
01:07:57 <HackEgo> Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him.
01:08:19 <oerjan> `file file
01:08:20 <HackEgo> file: empty
01:08:24 <oerjan> `rm file
01:08:27 <HackEgo> No output.
01:08:33 <oerjan> `file mind
01:08:34 <HackEgo> mind: empty
01:08:37 <oerjan> `rm mind
01:08:40 <HackEgo> No output.
01:08:45 <oerjan> `ls
01:08:47 <HackEgo> ​- \ 98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bi \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ this \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
01:08:55 <oerjan> `file -
01:09:06 <oerjan> now what.
01:09:13 <oerjan> oh
01:09:17 <oerjan> `run file -- -
01:09:24 <oerjan> `echo hi
01:09:25 <HackEgo> hi
01:09:26 <HackEgo> No output.
01:09:37 <oerjan> `file ./-
01:09:38 <HackEgo> ​./-: ASCII text
01:09:44 <oerjan> `cat ./-
01:09:45 <HackEgo> hi
01:09:47 <HackEgo> No output.
01:10:06 <oerjan> `cat ./-
01:10:07 <HackEgo> hi
01:10:18 <oerjan> `rm ./-
01:10:22 <HackEgo> No output.
01:10:32 <oerjan> `file bi
01:10:34 <HackEgo> bi: ASCII text, with very long lines
01:10:38 <oerjan> `cat bi
01:10:39 <HackEgo> echo -n $@ | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | z
01:10:54 <oerjan> `ls bin/bi
01:10:55 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access bin/bi: No such file or directory
01:11:03 <oerjan> `rm bi
01:11:07 <HackEgo> No output.
01:11:12 <oerjan> `ls
01:11:14 <HackEgo> 98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ this \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
01:11:33 <oerjan> `ls src
01:11:34 <HackEgo> brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ ploki \ ul.emm
01:11:51 <oerjan> `run mv ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 src
01:11:55 <HackEgo> No output.
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01:20:05 <ion> Click “Listen” on the Japanese translation. http://translate.google.com/#auto/ja/..................................................................
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01:23:03 <oerjan> i dotto, i mean did so
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02:16:22 <oerjan> `unidecode ̶
02:16:24 <HackEgo> ​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0336 COMBINING LONG STROKE OVERLAY]
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04:47:11 <Sgeo> "(lalalala my friend is fine, he just has a different drinking issue now lalalalala)"
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05:21:22 <Sgeo> Why are comments on news sites always terrible?
05:26:24 <quintopia> because there are people out there, in the world, who disagree with you, who have different information and influences than you, who have different perceptions and priorities than you, and who believe that news site comment threads are an open forum for sharing their opinions. The culmination of all these factors in a community where speech is not moderated and carefully cultivated gives you the opportunity to judge it, seemingly harshly, and
05:29:27 <oerjan> quintopia: install splitlong.pl thx
05:30:59 <quintopia> oerjan: but it's spammy! better to just get truncated. it's an automatic built-in tl;dr system!
05:31:10 <oerjan> fancy
05:42:11 <zzo38> I tried to make a tape recording on VirtuaNES, but the recording file is full of $70.
05:43:50 <Bike> cashhhhh
05:44:58 <Bike> i didn't know they made seventy dollar bills though.
05:47:01 <zzo38> Neither did I.
05:47:10 <Bike> fortuitous for you then.
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05:49:08 <quintopia> zzo38: teach me how to make $70
05:49:15 <zzo38> quintopia: I don't know.
05:54:09 <oerjan> obviously we are doomed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25780908
06:00:47 <quintopia> so recently after schneier's rant about said lax security too
06:00:51 <quintopia> how timely
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06:33:14 <Sgeo> "SECURITY ATTACKS AREN'T SUBTLE"
06:33:16 <Sgeo> http://www.everestads.net/static/assets/2818/30adddca7a74cd17f454e8ec79323d76_1.jpeg
06:33:22 <Sgeo> Um... that would be nice if it was true
07:06:43 <zzo38> I recently read someone had a dream about chess variant. As it turns out, so did I, but mine is more confusing.
07:19:58 <zzo38> Here is a screenshot of Famicom "Attribute Zone" editor so far: http://zzo38computer.org/img_16/attrzone_201401172309222.png Do you think this is OK?
07:23:10 <zzo38> So far the only functions it works is: HJKL or arrow keys to move cursor; hold shift and HJKL or arrows to move cursor once per frame (1/60 sec); F4 to clear screen; SHIFT+F4 and CTRL+F4 to adjust grid parity; F5 to write to a tape (untested); STOP to go back to title screen.
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09:50:10 <Sgeo> So, just remembered the statement "You can't always get what you want; but if you try sometimes you can get what you need"
09:50:26 <Sgeo> Googled part of that along with tautology, and ended up on some libertarian's blog
09:50:29 <Sgeo> Just... what.
09:50:56 <Sgeo> http://think-and-prosper.blogspot.com/2012/10/tautology-of-self-affirming-concept.html
09:51:12 <Bike> that just ain't as good as the stones
09:51:22 <Bike> or whoever did that song, probably not the stones first
09:51:44 <Sgeo> I think this person has an empathy deficit. E's saying that people don't always get what they need, which is true, but... e's saying so stop trying to force it and just accept it
09:52:19 <Bike> we call it libertarianism
09:52:30 <Sgeo> "So you can't always get what you WANT, but contrary to what the Rolling Stones might say, you can't always get what you NEED, either. You can get only what you CAN get. So accept that and move on, and stop trying to use the strong arm of the State to take from others what you think your deserve but do not have. "
09:53:23 <Bike> yes, the usual douchebag.
09:53:27 <Sgeo> Wonder if this person thinks that everything that happens in nature is good
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10:16:13 <oklopol> "Reciprocal" means "mutually accepted and practiced standards of behavior between human beings" is that really the definition?
10:16:46 <Bike> that's a definition of a noun, not an adjective, so maybe in an especially crapy dictionary
10:16:52 <Bike> but that's a definition of 'reciprocity' sure
10:17:32 <oklopol> but the important part was that it means a standard
10:17:39 <oklopol> because rights were also a standard
10:17:47 <oklopol> maybe i misunderstood what he was trying to say
10:18:06 <oklopol> too complicated
10:21:38 <oklopol> okay maybe i got it.
10:21:53 <oklopol> p deep
10:24:25 <oklopol> i think this guy has some misunderstandings about "="
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10:35:05 <oklopol> i get the impression that he is trying to prove that abortion is wrong using logic or something
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11:47:11 <Sgeo> http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/images/3/33/Blue_Hurricane.jpg
11:47:21 <Sgeo> I assume that that's still green if actually played
11:47:56 <Sgeo> Wait, green direct damage?
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12:46:34 <quintopia> helloklopol
12:51:45 <quintopia> wow
12:53:01 <coppro> Sgeo: yes to both questions
12:54:00 <quintopia> that's a neat card actually
12:54:51 <quintopia> if you have less damage than all opponents and enough mana, you can instantly win. wonder what the best counters are.
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14:51:43 <fizzie> "[transcode] critical: Video frame size out of range (max 2500x2000)" soooo laaaame
14:52:18 <fizzie> (Had some 2576x1449 images to process.)
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15:03:35 <Gregor> fizzie: transcode is for losers. Does ffmpeg handle it?
15:03:55 <Gregor> (Note: It might not ;) )
15:12:41 <fizzie> For context, I was trying to use http://public.hronopik.de/vid.stab/ which was built-in in Debian's transcode, but not in ffm.. I mean, libav. (I guess I'll just build ffmpeg on my own, or something; will get a newer version anyway.)
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16:33:55 <ion> More: http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1vgb8a/google_translateim_so_happy/
16:35:43 <fizzie> Gregor: ffmpeg seems to be okay with it, but vid.stab doesn't like the height: "vsFrameInfoInit: Assertion `width%2==0 && height%2==0' failed."
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17:15:28 <FreeFull> fizzie: I wonder why it only likes even ones
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17:50:01 <Gregor> fizzie, FreeFull: It's probably just a side effect of the particular encoder. You might be able to use a video filter to pad it to an even size.
18:26:38 <fizzie> Gregor: It was from the vid.stab filter, actually.
18:26:59 <fizzie> (I cropped one line off with a filter in front of it, yes.)
18:28:06 <fizzie> What I don't really know is why a video stabilization filter would be restricted to even heights, but such is life.
18:34:40 <Gregor> Oh, you said that X-D
18:34:59 <Gregor> Anyway, yeah, easy enough to fix. Why are you using a video stabilization filter if your input is photos...?
18:35:08 <Gregor> (Or did I misunderstand that too)
18:36:39 <fizzie> Oh, it's a single set of time-lapse photos.
18:37:31 <fizzie> That I would like to encode into a video, but there's a bit of movement of the phone that was used to take them.
18:38:03 <fizzie> Apparently my coffee-cup-and-books based phone-at-the-window-holder was not quite perfect.
18:38:54 <fizzie> I guess it's a matter of opinion whether they're photos or a slow video.
18:49:52 <fizzie> (And for the record, the phone doesn't have such an odd sensor size, I had just cropped a 16:9 aspect slice out of a 2576x1936 frame. In retrospect, not such a great idea, given this stabilization attempt.)
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20:21:22 <Gregor> fizzie: Ahhh, OK, I get it. Just as a general note, I've historically had much better luck just using ffmpeg than using any of the various tools that ultimately just use its codecs and filters.
20:25:00 <oklopol> ion: what's that supposed to sound like?
20:25:09 <oklopol> i mean the dots
20:29:57 <ion> A melodic “dotta dotta dotta dotta dotta…”
20:30:12 <ion> The melodic thing makes it funny.
20:31:53 <oklopol> i wonder what i'm doing wrong
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20:34:29 <ion> oklopol: A number of people have had it not work despite other text working.
20:34:46 <ion> So it seems to be “i wonder what Google is doing wrong”
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20:40:42 <oklopol> i c
20:41:40 <int-e> ion: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-vendors-buy-chrome-extensions-to-send-adware-filled-updates/ ;-)
20:41:54 * int-e is completely ignoring all context.
20:42:26 <ion> nice
20:44:21 <FreeFull> Malware vendor buys esoteric languages to trick people into installing adware
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20:46:52 <Taneb> Evening
20:48:49 <Sgeo> I gather that Mox Saphhire is considered bette than the other Moxes? But Mox Pearl is prettier
20:50:10 <fizzie> Gregor: ffmpeg seems to be doing all right here, though the command lines are getting a bit on the absurd side. Cf. http://sprunge.us/EHPX (I'm prefixing it with a "sped-up" average-N-stabilized-frames version.)
20:50:38 <Gregor> Yup, that looks like an ffmpeg command line.
20:54:43 <fizzie> (It's also missing all encoding options for the mp4 output, I'm not that far yet.)
20:58:02 <Gregor> Where are you sending your output file? Direct distribution or something like YouTube?
20:58:27 <fizzie> YouTube; I've got a "summer" and "autumn" clips of the same view there already.
20:58:42 <fizzie> I guess there might be some YouTube-optimized settings somewhere.
20:59:11 <fizzie> (There seems to be at least a ffmpeg wiki page about it.)
20:59:18 <Gregor> Not to my knowledge. When I'm YouTubing I'm just less careful about the quality (make it high-quality and huge, YouTube will recompress)
20:59:40 <Gregor> I usually just do -c:v libx264 -crf 19 for the video part.
21:18:36 <pikhq> That's basically the way to go about it in general.
21:18:48 <pikhq> x264 defaults are basically "very good" in general.
21:18:54 <ais523> Sgeo: it's blue, blue is always better
21:19:07 <pikhq> Sgeo: Island is the best basic land.
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21:19:13 <ais523> the next best is Mox Jet because black can do the most broken things with one mana
21:19:54 <Sgeo> I assume we're talking in environments with these sorts of cards? Blue isn't monotonically better today, is it?
21:20:20 <pikhq> Blue is still generally better, just not as undeniably.
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21:48:10 <ion> http://youtu.be/AxJXtF3FQCM?t=14s
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21:58:06 <fizzie> "Input link in3:v0 parameters (size 1920x1080, SAR 1431:1430) do not match the corresponding output link in0:v0 parameters (1920x1080, SAR 1:1)"
22:03:20 <int-e> > 1431/1430 == (1/1 :: Rational)
22:03:21 <lambdabot> False
22:04:03 <int-e> how does one get a 1431:1430 aspect ratio?
22:05:25 <ais523> I think you can set a video of any dimensions to any aspect ratio you like
22:05:34 <ais523> you just end up with rectangular pixels
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22:07:21 <fizzie> It's presumably something to do with the scale filter.
22:07:26 <int-e> Sure, but those specific numbers look ... odd. I don't believe anybody could tell the difference between a rectangle with dimensions 1431x1430 and a square.
22:07:32 <fizzie> "The scale filter forces the output display aspect ratio to be the same of the input, by changing the output sample aspect ratio."
22:08:41 <fizzie> I'm trying to crop 2544x1431 rectangles (that's a 16:9 image with square pixels) but apparently something's going wrong somewhere.
22:09:36 <int-e> ah, then it must be scaling by 1430/1431 in the vertical dimension.
22:10:17 <fizzie> Though I can't quite see why "..., crop=w=2544:h=1431, scale=1920:1080" would end up with a non-1:1 sample (aka pixel) aspect ratio.
22:10:50 <int-e> (well. "must" is too strong.)
22:10:52 <fizzie> Because the result of the crop is already 16:9, and so is 1920x1080, so scale shouldn't do anything.
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22:11:26 <int-e> didn't you mention using h=1430 somewhere?
22:11:46 <fizzie> h=1448, before the video stabilization, yes.
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22:12:14 <int-e> odd.
22:12:22 <fizzie> But that shouldn't affect the pixel aspect ratio, just the display aspect ratio.
22:12:35 <fizzie> Maybe there's some filter I can add in a chain that will print some debugging information of the stream at that point, in case the vid.stab filter is doing something strange.
22:13:12 <int-e> > floor (2544 * (1080 / 1920))
22:13:13 <lambdabot> 1431
22:13:32 <int-e> > floor (2544 * (1080 / 1920 :: Float))
22:13:33 <lambdabot> 1431
22:13:36 <int-e> pity.
22:13:39 <fizzie> That should be exact, in fact.
22:13:59 <int-e> ... right, 9/16 should be exact
22:14:08 <int-e> > floor (2544 / (1920 / 1080 :: Float))
22:14:10 <lambdabot> 1431
22:14:23 <int-e> > floor (2544 / (1920 / 1080 :: Double))
22:14:24 <lambdabot> 1431
22:15:46 <fizzie> I can probably "fix" it with a setsar=sar=1/1 filter, but that doesn't explain what's wrong.
22:22:21 <fizzie> Ah, "showinfo" was the kind of filter I was looking for.
22:23:54 <fizzie> Ohh, I think I get it. For some reason, the pixel format for this one stream is yuv420p, so the crop=h=1431 gets rounded to 1430, because of subsampling.
22:25:20 <fizzie> Though I don't quite understand why one .jpg input is yuv420p and another is yuvj444p.
22:26:05 <fizzie> (Is there even chroma subsampling in JPEG files?)
22:26:28 <fizzie> Apparently there is.
22:32:09 <fizzie> "vsFrameAllocate: Assertion `fi->planes==1' failed."
22:42:43 <fizzie> http://sprunge.us/eNRZ well, that wasn't complicated at all.
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22:50:36 <b_jonas> fizzie: yes, there is, and it's variable
22:51:27 <fizzie> Apparently so. I'd've appreciated a warning from crop that it's cropping something else than what was specified, though.
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22:58:00 <quintopia> fizziello
23:10:14 <zzo38> There is single-static-assignment with PHI nodes, but another possible format could be, register forwarding format; each termination of a block must indicate which registers are forwarded to the next block.
23:28:21 <zzo38> Are there programs using such a forwarding format, and to convert between these two formats?
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