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00:24:13 <kmc> if Unicode is supposed to encompass every legacy charset, then shouldn't they have compatibility codepoints somewhere for the UCS-2 characters corresponding to UTF-16 surrogates?
00:24:32 <kmc> or is the idea that they don't have to because those codepoints were never assigned in UCS-2?
00:26:36 <oerjan> nah they just have a padded cell in their headquarters for anyone who thinks to long about that hth
00:26:46 <kmc> seems likely
00:30:00 <kmc> https://github.com/mairin/selinux-coloring-book
00:32:23 <Jafet> Aren't those UCS-2 characters also unicode codepoints
00:32:56 <kmc> U+D800 through U+DFFF are explicitly not valid Unicode codepoints
00:33:10 <kmc> there's no clear way to represent them in UTF-16, and there is a clear way to represent them in UTF-8 but it's forbidden
00:33:20 <Jafet> Did anyone use those?
00:33:21 <kmc> though see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CESU-8
00:34:08 <lexande> does myndzi do anything for ꙮ_ꙮ or ꙮ.ꙮ
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00:40:20 <kmc> Jafet: JavaScript has UCS-2 string semantics, so (for example) if you get a string from the DOM that contains an astral plane character and inspect it with charCodeAt() you will see individual surrogates :/
00:45:51 <kmc> http://jsfiddle.net/Wj5DN/
00:48:55 <kmc> this is a massive pain if you want to represent strings in your browser as something other than UTF-16, say, to save a huge amount of memory
01:06:34 <Taneb> So, for the Ludum Dare Game Jam, some of my friends (and I helped!) made a small roguelike, "ColinQuest"
01:06:41 <Taneb> http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-29/?action=preview&uid=20617
01:07:31 <Taneb> It would be really helpful if people could make static binaries for Windows and Max
01:08:19 <elliott> OS X doesn't like static binaries.
01:09:00 <Taneb> What does OS X like and could you help with that
01:09:13 <newsham> http://ecmanaut.blogspot.com/2006/07/encoding-decoding-utf8-in-javascript.html ?
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01:10:20 <newsham> os x likes irony and fixed-speed bicycles
01:10:54 <newsham> osx does not like waiting in line, showing up to work on time, going to clubs that let everyone in
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04:08:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:~-~!]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39430&oldid=38729 * 121.45.207.205 * (+412) /* Getting odd numbers back after ~=~~ (let 1 = 2) */ new section
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06:11:11 <Sgeo> It's not cheating if ekmett guides me through what to do, right?
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06:15:40 <oerjan> Sgeo: you are lost in a maze of categories, all different...
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06:21:30 <Sgeo> (lambda (p) (contramap (lambda (o) (lift p ) p
06:21:39 <Sgeo> ^^incompletely and possibly wrong aieee
06:23:45 <oerjan> ^def ul (I see nothing.)S
06:23:50 <Sgeo> If I want to get to a profunctor that gets an s, I need to contramap with a profunctor that accepts an s
06:23:58 <fungot> echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a thanks
06:24:33 <Sgeo> contramap with a function
06:24:34 <oerjan> i wonder if that got saved anywhere.
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06:31:03 <shachaf> oerjan: how do you feel about covariant and contravariant Setters
06:32:13 <fungot> Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings)
06:32:25 <fungot> echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a thanks tmp2
06:32:43 <oerjan> fungot: those setters are non-euclidean, aren't ther
06:32:44 <fungot> oerjan: all was now ready, and the thinning hair and beard of my friend had laughed, for these fears were of the vaguest, wildest, and most of the palaces the floors were generally thick with detritus, litter, and debris, but farther down this condition decreased. in some places. people sometimes heard the queerest kind of sounds.
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06:34:07 <fizzie> It does not seem to have made it to the state file.
06:34:11 <fungot> https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98
06:35:23 <Bike> so what are we dealing with now? the fungot in the machine?
06:35:24 <fungot> Bike: the first horrible incident of our acquaintance was the greatest. there was a singularity in my fnord hand. this is not to the complete and engulfing fnord of the
06:36:02 <oerjan> Bike: much worse than that, clearly
06:37:03 <fowl> are you serious
06:37:10 <fowl> fungot is written in befunge?
06:37:10 <fungot> fowl: may 18, 1934. now, beyond the roof and the tops of great pointed windows, rose boldly above the tangle of gables and chimneys in the violet valley where the many-bridged charles flows drowsily. these things i was very sorry for him, for
06:37:37 <oerjan> fowl: well it was either that or some hideous chthonic language.
06:38:34 <fizzie> As far as I can tell, "^def ul ..." indeed parses as command name "", language "ul", body "...". I don't know yet what happens after that.
06:39:37 <fowl> i learned a word today! im going to go call someone chthonic brb
06:39:55 <oerjan> just be prepared for them to sprout tentacles hth
06:40:12 <fizzie> Oh, I see what's going on.
06:40:26 <fizzie> The end of the command list is also marked by a 0 where a command name is expected.
06:41:09 <oerjan> so it was "saved", but then ignored, and your tmp2 probably overwrote it.
06:42:43 <fizzie> I'm still missing the ^undef command, I think I added that to the TODO list somewhere in 2009-2010.
06:43:26 <oerjan> ^def todo ul (Make a todo list command)S
06:45:41 <fowl> now i want to learn befunge to figure this out
06:51:07 <oerjan> fizzie: maybe you'll get pull requests!
06:51:13 <fungot> Make a todo list command
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06:51:43 <oerjan> has that ever happened btw
06:53:26 <olsner> oh, fungot moved to github?
06:53:26 <fungot> olsner: when i finally found myself fnord and free, i awkwardly clambered down to the sea and fnord down from the fifth story. he had known merely by reputation or not at all.
06:54:07 <oerjan> "and that's how i got to github."
06:55:24 <fizzie> There have been no Github forks or pull requests or issues or any of that stuff.
06:55:27 <oerjan> `addquote <olsner> oh, fungot moved to github? <fungot> olsner: when i finally found myself fnord and free, i awkwardly clambered down to the sea and fnord down from the fifth story. he had known merely by reputation or not at all.
06:55:27 <fungot> oerjan: in less than an hour or two at a time the man left me alone. some new and wild note in the drumming and chanting, perceptible but slightly to me, and at its inner angles, and view the myriad parts of the
06:55:29 <HackEgo> 1190) <olsner> oh, fungot moved to github? <fungot> olsner: when i finally found myself fnord and free, i awkwardly clambered down to the sea and fnord down from the fifth story. he had known merely by reputation or not at all.
06:57:49 <fowl> olsner, i think thats the markov chain part of it
06:58:18 <fizzie> olsner: It's the twitter stuff.
06:58:51 <fizzie> And also contains a Perl implementation of the markov chain stuff.
06:59:02 <fizzie> Though what's doing the blabbing here in IRC is all Funge-98.
06:59:07 <b_jonas> you mean, fungot uses twitter?
06:59:07 <fungot> b_jonas: the lurking fear. the thing came abruptly and fnord a sound animal without psychological subtleties, and probably that by which those others had descended.
06:59:18 <fizzie> b_jonas: Well, it has a Twitter account, it hasn't tweeted in quite a while.
06:59:45 <fizzie> https://twitter.com/fungot "29 Jun 2012"
06:59:45 <fungot> fizzie: if you desire to see him dart purposefully out of the realm of their pets. accordingly, we decided to find a smooth place on the seventh of october, 1928, dr. willett's that the next move. it was when the minds of the requisite sensitiveness.
07:00:05 <fizzie> I wouldn't be surprised if the Twitter-posting parts had bitrotted away.
07:00:15 <b_jonas> how many fungots does it take to change lightbulb?
07:00:15 <fungot> b_jonas: the next day, saying that the stones and altars were as low as those in the sea. for their prehistoric flights through cosmic space, legend said, they absorbed certain chemicals and became almost independent of eating, always curiously like a formality with him, and he knew he must confront his host.
07:01:02 <b_jonas> fungot: like a positronic robot?
07:01:02 <fungot> b_jonas: " you have come to see the high turrets of the onyx nightmare wherein still glowed the lone lurid light of that final horror. i have said, my studies gradually gave me a kind of ophidian animation. everything he saw was abnormal, non-euclidean, and loathsomely redolent of spheres and dimensions apart from ours. now an fnord seaman felt the same anomalous drowsiness which affected me oddly.
07:01:34 <b_jonas> fungot: and ravens circling the tower too, I guess?
07:01:34 <fungot> b_jonas: blake had fnord in the fabulous years beyond history. in the storm
07:01:50 <fowl> fizzie, im sure the api has changed several times since 2012
07:01:55 <fizzie> Oh, there's apparently also a "collect trending tweets" script.
07:02:19 <fizzie> I think I was going to make a ^style twitter, but then forgot about it.
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07:09:02 <b_jonas> fizzie: I have this old quotes file http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/bibul.txt scraped from http://www.lolcatbible.com/ . you could make a style based on it if there isn't one yet.
07:09:38 <b_jonas> that's like five years old though so maybe it should be re-scraped
07:10:30 <b_jonas> fungot, can has you bake a cake in lolcat?
07:10:30 <fungot> b_jonas: i eyed him in silence for a while my chief concern during dreams was to avoid looking down at the top, in order that he might use the silver key. a gate had been that one or some other attribute of a family of short-lived men, i afterward pondered long upon these premature deaths, and began making a noose with the other islanders, or as sacrifices to the other.
07:11:05 <fowl> that. is. awesome.
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07:38:03 <slereah> I hate it when I do something that works because I made a mistake
07:38:09 <slereah> And it ceases to work when I fix it
07:43:24 <b_jonas> slereah: yes, some of our programs work when we make an even number of sign mistakes
07:45:33 <HackEgo> tbftcoin cuycoin bubandcoin caintacoin nhoolemcoin intycoin singcoin helpiteshimlddreimachcoin mouflaufecoin altcoin bilcoin wiecoin sandcoin udecoin stacoin comaascerecoin noortcoin georrelcoin ribulcoin forcoin
07:45:55 <slereah> Welp, I tried two sigmoid functions
07:46:07 <slereah> The usual one solves it in about 5000 iterations
07:46:17 <slereah> The Elliot one in... 3 millions
07:49:25 <Bike> TWO l's TWO t's
07:50:03 <Bike> abs? how boring
07:50:32 <slereah> A steeper gain might work out vbetter
07:55:21 <slereah> But it works even better with the exponential one
07:55:26 <slereah> I wonder about the tangent one
08:01:40 <Bike> i wonder how much faster that can really be. surely exp is just a taylor series.
08:02:08 <slereah> Well it is faster to compute, surely, but slower to converge
08:03:19 <Bike> i'm wondering how many taylor terms you really need. maybe you can just go up to ³ or so and get something inaccurate, but faster than more exp, and converging faster than abs
08:03:47 <slereah> I looked up an implementation of exp once
08:03:50 <Bike> what's the math on how fast a givne transfer function converges, anyway? or is it all empiric?
08:04:33 <slereah> It used the Remez algorithm
08:04:57 <slereah> That's because at that level, the error is < to significant digits
08:05:10 <slereah> Also it didn't compute it directly
08:05:14 <Bike> still just a polynomial, eh
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08:07:23 <slereah> Also the coefficients of the Remez algorithm are pre-tabulated
08:11:05 <shachaf> "Firefox OS lets you live every moment to its fullest and build a brighter future for the Web."
08:11:30 <slereah> I don't want my OS to crash all the time because I have too many things open
08:13:37 <Bike> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15350856/which-method-to-implement-exp-function-in-c stack overflow closings seem weird
08:14:27 <kmc> shachaf: seems legit
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08:26:49 <kmc> shachaf: it's unfortunate that for a &str foo, foo.slice_from(n).as_bytes() is slower than foo.as_bytes().slice_from(n)
08:27:01 <kmc> I guess this is the sort of thing GHC's rewrite rules are good for
08:27:20 <shachaf> aren't those different things?
08:27:34 <shachaf> well, i guess that depends on what slice_from and as_bytes (and str) are
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08:28:41 <shachaf> ok, slice_from takes a byte offset, not a code point offset
08:28:42 <kmc> true, the former will fail in cases where the latter won't
08:28:55 <kmc> hi quintopia
08:29:32 <shachaf> because it makes a new str object thing which is taken apart immediately or something?
08:29:51 <shachaf> oh, because it checks for validity?
08:32:22 <kmc> sorry, the latter
08:32:42 <shachaf> the first one i think is solved by inlining, the second one you can't really solve with rewrite rules because it changes the program
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08:36:06 <shachaf> i sort of like the thing where you have indices into a string that are "opaque", so you get constant-time indexing but can't get an unsafe index
08:36:11 <shachaf> i guess that's an iterator or something
08:36:52 <kmc> iterators are kind of a pain in rust though :/
08:45:34 <lifthrasiir> oh, this channel has much more active discussion for Rust than #rust itself. :p
08:49:20 <coppro> that sounds about right
08:49:30 <coppro> we have more active discussion on any topic than any other channel
08:49:40 <coppro> except for esoteric programming languages
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08:53:04 <shachaf> kmc: where does n come from in your case?
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10:04:39 <slereah> Are there special preprocessing things to tell the compiler "Hey don't sweat it it's okay that it's like that"
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11:42:58 <fizzie> That would presumably depend on the compiler.
11:43:16 <fizzie> GCC has pragmas that can turn off warnings for particular regions.
12:02:33 <Taneb> Are the rationals the smallest field containing the naturals?
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12:04:33 <Taneb> I don't really know what I'm talking about
12:04:36 <Jafet> There are some fields containing N, but not Q
12:06:55 <Jafet> "The rational numbers can be formally defined as the equivalence classes of the quotient set (Z × (Z \ {0})) / ~ ..." ok I think these math guys really really want it to be the smallest field
12:14:57 <int-e> Jafet: what else would you have in mind?
12:15:53 <int-e> (if you start with Z x (Z \ {0}) but don't take that quotient then you won't have a field)
12:16:36 <int-e> where I'm interpreting Z x (Z \ {0}) as fractions.
12:17:48 <Jafet> Oh, that definition is actually much more overcomplicated than I thought
12:19:27 <int-e> we could just use the smallest field of characteristic 0 :)
12:20:09 <Jafet> Well, we might first want to make sure that there is a smallest field of characteristic 0
12:20:58 <slereah> Why do they never teach all basic C features
12:21:18 <slereah> WHAT ELSE ARE YOU HIDING C
12:21:33 <int-e> Jafet: this is in the same spirit as working with *the* complete ordered field.
12:21:48 <int-e> slereah: digraphs and trigraphs
12:22:02 <int-e> slereah: and lots of undefined behaviour
12:22:22 <Jafet> Bitfield compiler bugs
12:22:44 <Jafet> Buggy libc linker scripts
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12:24:03 <Jafet> It should be straightforward to prove that any field of characteristic 0 contains Q.
12:25:05 <Jafet> (When preparing the camera copy, change your \shouldbe macro to "is")
12:25:09 <int-e> Jafet: it contains Z and is closed under division by non-zero numbers, so it contains all fractions.
12:30:03 <slereah> Is there a way to get around some of the compilation of functions
12:30:20 <slereah> I want to do some inline stuff, but by default functions do a lot of things on their own
12:33:22 <int-e> static inline void foo() { ... } // standard way to urge to compiler to inline the function and not provide a standalone compiled version
12:33:39 <slereah> By default, a function of floats load the arguments into the xmm registers
12:34:03 <slereah> Even if I do nothing with the floats
12:35:08 <int-e> inlining should take care of that.
12:35:44 <int-e> (why do you have functions with unused arguments though?)
12:36:48 <fizzie> If you mean this http://sprunge.us/YKLQ then just plain compiling with optimizations on should get rid of *that*.
12:37:11 <fizzie> (That's not loading arguments to xmm registers, though; it's unloading them from there.)
12:37:13 <slereah> int-e : Well what if I want to use them in the ST registers, for instance
12:37:50 <int-e> fizzie: wow that does look awful :)
12:38:33 <fizzie> Assuming regular x86-64 ABI, they're passed in the SSE regs.
12:38:49 <int-e> and what was the point of "rep ret" again? meh
12:38:57 <fizzie> int-e: It's to work around an AMD bug.
12:39:15 <fizzie> int-e: Something something branch prediction something something ret directly at a branch target something.
12:39:27 <fizzie> (It does a simple "ret" for suitable values of -march.)
12:39:30 <int-e> This came up before. http://repzret.org/p/repzret/ was nice.
12:40:15 <fizzie> I don't think I've managed to coax the "ret 0" out of GCC.
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12:46:41 <slereah> Man why does the compiler do movq%rax, -24(%rbp)movsd-24(%rbp), %xmm0
12:46:48 <slereah> rax isn't even anything in this function
12:47:33 <fizzie> Paste some code, perhaps.
12:47:45 <int-e> Is that without -O?
12:47:46 <slereah> I'll return one of the argument
12:48:12 <fizzie> I'm pretty sure %rax is something if it does that.
12:48:26 <fizzie> If not, you should report a code generation bug.
12:48:30 <slereah> Maybe outside the function
12:48:55 <int-e> anyway, hard to tell without code.
12:49:55 <slereah> I'll just return one of the argument
12:50:06 <slereah> At least I know where they are stored
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13:08:43 <slereah> Is there a site that has like
13:09:03 <slereah> In a bit more readable format
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13:30:33 <`^_^v> what are basic c functions, the ones that are included in the standard?
13:31:00 <Jafet> The ones written in basic
13:31:42 <slereah> The non-library functions in the standard
13:32:15 <slereah> There always seems to be some hidden one that I discover
13:39:18 <slereah> Basically a list of all features of C that isn't a tutorial
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13:52:47 <fizzie> I think that's called a "book".
13:52:53 <fizzie> Something like the K&R.
13:53:34 <slereah> Most if not all don't have said list!
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13:56:00 <fizzie> Well, K&R is reasonably thin (274 pages, according to Amazon) and if you read through it once, there shouldn't be all that much left to discover that could be called "basic features". I guess.
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13:57:40 <mroman> src\System\Plugins\Consts.hs:39:23: lexical error in string/character literal at character 'P'
13:57:51 <mroman> There are syntax errors in hackage packages?
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13:58:39 <mroman> that's also a good question
13:59:20 <`^_^v> you should just read the standard, because the language has changed a lot since k&r, and even k&r does not have everything about the language
13:59:31 <`^_^v> it's just as boring as you would expect, but you learn a lot
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14:00:26 <`^_^v> then you can join ##c and start being very pedantic
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14:03:50 <mroman> I hate how some packages can't be compiled on windows without cygwin
14:04:01 <mroman> and as it seems now... they even don't compile with cygwin
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14:05:27 <mroman> haskell platform isn't really made for >Windows XP
14:05:59 <mroman> Yeah.. I see... I'm gonna need a Unix again somewhere
14:06:25 <mroman> If you update cabal stuff get's broken due to AppData\Roaming
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15:39:42 <fizzie> Today's spam: http://sprunge.us/ZFCH
15:39:55 <fizzie> I assume that list of names is culled from competing spammers.
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15:58:19 <int-e> fizzie: it's so nice to finally find an honest person out there.
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17:57:57 <myname> wtf is up with boardgamegeek
17:58:06 <myname> {{data.config.moduletitle}}
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17:58:54 <myname> what the hell, that is supposed to be like this with disabled js
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19:13:42 <`^_^v> http://java.metagno.me/
19:14:47 <nortti> `^_^v: you sir/madam/something else have the best nick I've seen yet
19:14:48 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v:: not found
19:16:34 <nortti> `run { echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo "echo '^_^v'"; } > bin/^_^v; chmod +x bin/^_^v
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19:18:55 <nortti> `run { echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo "echo '^_^v'"; } > bin/^_^v; sed -i bin/^_^v '2s/^/`/'
19:18:56 <HackEgo> sed: can't find label for jump to `in/^_^v'
19:19:34 <nortti> `run sed -i '2s/^/`/' bin/^_^v
19:19:57 <myname> `^_^v: that thing is brilliant
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19:20:19 <HackEgo> chmod: missing operand after `+x bin/^_^v' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information.
19:20:32 <nortti> `run chmod +x bin/^_^v
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19:24:03 <FireFly> I can't wrap my head around ICFP. I can't find anything on icfpconference.org about registration, attendance fees, attendance eligibility and so on, but I guess I'm missing something
19:24:26 <FireFly> Knowing this channel, I'm sure you know everything about ICFP (and more), so what am I missing?
19:31:25 <kmc> fungot: Yes I'll tell you, I'll tell you why I'm lying here... but God forgive me... and God help us all... because you don't know what you ask of me.
19:31:25 <fungot> kmc: weary moon on the river of the sky like the men from the plains would scale the slope homeward in the dusk as the stars came right again. to this man iranon spoke, as to only a few, since fuller accounts and records are at the disposal of the prisoners. no trials, or even proved to exist. the farther he went the fnord it was clear, and devastating significance nearly fnord to the fiend has ever had.
19:32:16 <FireFly> I knew it, I should've asked fungot for advice instead
19:32:16 <fungot> FireFly: the next i racked my brain over the problem. what had happened. he did, however, a giant, muscular body, stark naked, was found upon boarding to contain one survivor in a fnord state like a true man and fnord.
19:32:19 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
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19:32:58 <int-e> FireFly: it's more than 4 months away, and notifications are next week, so I think not having registrations open yet is normal.
19:33:18 <FireFly> fungot: the giant, muscular, stark naked body contained a survivor?!
19:33:18 <fungot> FireFly: " but the whisperer seemed not to notice this, and its colour was that same nameless intrusion which ammi had come to the bad end he deserved, is at once the horrible eyes, blacker even than the moss-grown castle walls. these ancient turrets, stained by the storms of generations and crumbling under the slow yet mighty pressure of time, safety, direction, or definite object? there is something queer and unholy about the
19:33:30 <int-e> FireFly: that's speaking in general, I don't know about ICFP in particular
19:34:27 <int-e> Though hmm, some idea of what fees to expect before submitting papers would be nice.
19:35:01 <Bike> one MILLLLLLION dollars
19:35:34 <FireFly> I guess I'll wait and see what happens
19:37:57 <FireFly> I'm expecting it to be more expensive than PyCon Sweden's student rate, at any rate :P
19:38:07 <coppro> a conference I want to go to this summer hasn't even gotten their website up yet and it's two months away :/
19:38:19 <FireFly> (which amounts to $20 or so)
19:40:19 <olsner> but which four, and how many of them?
19:41:01 <FireFly> I guess I'll forget about it then, at that rate
19:41:57 <coppro> more importantly, is there a decimal point?
19:42:28 <coppro> (ICFP is sponsored by ACM which means that it is cheaper for ACM members and too expensive in any case)
19:49:18 <fizzie> "crumbling under the slow yet mighty pressure of time, safety, direction, or definite object?"
19:50:47 <int-e> http://icfpconference.org/icfp2012/registration.html seems the most recent data on the web. Some of the tutorial prices don't make sense.
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19:51:09 <fizzie> That's not much of a member discount.
19:52:01 <fizzie> ICASSP 2014 costs €705 for IEEE non-members, €520 for IEEE members, and €470 for IEEE SPS members.
19:52:59 <fizzie> (I'm paying the student price, which is €225 for non-members, €150 for SPS members, and IEEE+SPS membership for the rest of the year was something like $15.)
19:53:57 <int-e> "professional" ACM membership is $99 a year, a discount of half the membership fee sounds reasonable.
19:54:43 <int-e> but who am I to judge
19:54:46 <fizzie> IEEE dues are such that it's always cheaper to join than to go to the conference as a non-member.
19:54:57 <fizzie> (I think they get a lot of members that way.)
19:55:53 <olsner> hmm, just noticed that I've forgotten why I dislike ACM, but I have some idea that being a member is somehow bad
19:56:09 <coppro> olsner: because they don't actually offer anything useful?
19:56:51 <coppro> there was a time when they did. now all they do is spam members
19:56:58 <FireFly> They arrange ICPC, at least that's something I guess
19:57:22 <coppro> no, their members do, and they would be perfectly able to do so if not for the ACM
19:57:31 <coppro> it's how many other major disciplines do it :)
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21:17:21 <Slereah> http://i.imgur.com/NUZoY4G.png
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21:20:11 <kmc> No one should be a cock to a stranger, ever!
21:21:02 <Slereah> Dicks are very important for figures of speech though
21:21:24 <Slereah> One of my favorite is "I wouldn't fuck her with a stolen dick!"
21:21:32 <Slereah> Because of the sheer absurdity of penis theft
21:21:45 <kmc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4
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22:46:31 <kmc> #ifdef DEBUG
22:46:32 <kmc> mHandles[mHandlesUsed] = (nsIContent*)0xC0DEDBAD;
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23:19:52 <Bicyclidine> http://coq.inria.fr/distrib/V8.3-beta0/refman/Reference-Manual025.html i think coq should be used to verify a lack of encoding errors >:
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23:25:02 <kmc> "Remember, the C++ type system and the XPCOM type system are really two independent things. Because XPCOM interfaces are expressed as abstract C++ base classes, you may be tempted to let C++ handle the differences, or to use C++ casts to navigate between interface types. This is wrong."
23:25:34 <Taneb> This evening I wrote some sort of data queue server
23:25:40 <Bicyclidine> what is the relationship between XPCOM and X-COM: ENEMY UNKNOWN
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