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00:17:38 <quintopia> what's the way to use subscripts on the wiki
00:18:07 <callforjudgement> quintopia: <sub>text</sub>, like in HTML
00:18:49 <quintopia> ok
00:19:26 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Wigner's Fuckbuddy Is A Superposition of Top And Bottom]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40479&oldid=37791 * Quintopia * (+254) /* Computational Time Complexity */
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00:19:39 <Bicyclidine> thank you
00:20:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Wigner's Fuckbuddy Is A Superposition of Top And Bottom]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40480&oldid=40479 * Quintopia * (+131)
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01:50:06 <shachaf> int-e: Could you make @info a no-op or something?
01:50:13 <shachaf> Getting corrected to @undo is worse than nothing.
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04:35:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Splinter]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40481&oldid=25375 * AndoDaan * (-1) /* Example */ link fix
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09:00:03 <mroman_> Getting into FRP still looks way too hard :(
09:00:42 <ais523_> hmm, what programming paradigm do spreadsheets (like Excel) uses?
09:00:55 <ais523_> a sort of "everything is defined in terms of everything else"
09:01:02 <ais523_> I guess it's behavioural, like VHDL
09:02:52 <fizzie> You might call it declarative.
09:03:46 <mroman_> Well, an example doing excel like stuff would be nice :)
09:03:51 <mroman_> but can't seem to find one
09:04:12 <shachaf> So minä and sinä and so on are implied in "minä olen" and what not, but hän is never implied that way?
09:05:09 <mroman_> Somehow it should be possible to have foo t = print t
09:05:22 <mroman_> which prints t everytime t changes
09:08:43 <fizzie> shachaf: I... think all the personal pronouns can be implicit, in suitable circumstances. Like if someone asks "onko hän täällä?" you can answer just "on." But maybe that doesn't count.
09:09:01 * shachaf guesses "is he here?"
09:09:09 <fizzie> Yes. (Or "she".)
09:09:20 <shachaf> Right.
09:09:25 <ais523_> mroman_: you can do that sort of thing in the WIP esolang I was discussing yesterday
09:10:34 <fizzie> (Or "mitä hän tekee?" "syö." -- "what is he doing?" "he's eating.")
09:10:49 <shachaf> (Or "she".)
09:11:30 <fizzie> Can't think of a not-an-answer-to-a-question example right now.
09:12:11 <shachaf> But you would say "hän on täällä", not e.g. "on täällä"
09:12:18 <shachaf> As opposed to "olen täällä"
09:12:57 <fizzie> Yes, I guess so.
09:13:20 <fizzie> Same does apply to "he ovat täällä".
09:13:39 <mroman_> ais523_: hm.
09:13:50 <mroman_> I'd still like to be able to do that stuff in Haskell ;)
09:14:02 <ais523_> mroman_: in fact, the only way to do a method call there is to set a property in order to cause a method to run
09:14:10 <mroman_> somebody could make a system dynamics library out of frp I guess
09:14:12 <ais523_> I decided that in some respects, the language is the exact opposite in Haskell
09:14:24 <mroman_> If such a library doesn't already exist
09:14:24 <shachaf> And you wouldn't say just "puhuu suomea", right?
09:14:35 <ais523_> because all operations are mutating (although scoping an identifier has no side effects if you don't do anything with it before it descopes)
09:14:44 * shachaf tries to figure out what "puhuu" etc. means on its own.
09:14:58 <mroman_> ais523_: does it have a wikipage?
09:15:53 <mroman_> also wth is that Fuckbuddy thing o_O
09:15:57 <ais523_> no, because it's a WIP and I haven't worked out the details yet
09:16:17 <ais523_> luckily, so far I haven't run into anything as intractable as Feather
09:16:26 <fizzie> shachaf: Right, at least in general. I'm sure in conversational speech it'd be acceptable. Like, you're describing a potential hire to someone over the phone, you could say "puhuu suomea" as a part of a list of qualifications if it's implied by context who it's about.
09:16:28 <ais523_> *as I have in Feather
09:16:45 <shachaf> I guess that's the same as in English.
09:17:03 <mroman_> aivika...
09:22:16 <mroman_> Who writes lhs that can't be run :(
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10:33:11 <fizzie> `run echo 'const char main[] = "1\xc0""1\xff""1\xd2\xff\xc0\xff\xc7H\x8d""5\n\0\0\0\xb2\x06\x0f\x05\xb0<1\xff\x0f\x05hello\n";' | gcc -o /tmp/t -x c - 2>&1 && /tmp/t # I know we already have one of these, but I didn't want this one to go to waste
10:33:12 <HackEgo> hello
10:33:58 <fizzie> Also: doesn't work with `runc for some inexplicable reason.
10:38:54 <fizzie> Oh, right, `runc is using echo -e so that you can put in \ns for newlines for preprocessor stuff.
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11:21:08 <mroman_> Dependency tree exhaustively searched.
11:21:15 <mroman_> that's something new I havent seen before
11:21:58 <b_jonas> fizzie: I made one of those work (not necessarily correct) in a geordi prompt once, though I didn't write the main function, just an aux function I called.
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11:25:55 <fizzie> http://sprunge.us/AMWj - boily's chickens
11:26:09 <b_jonas> (didn't do anything useful either)
11:26:44 <fizzie> What's a "geordi prompt"?
11:27:05 <b_jonas> fizzie: geordi is a bot evaluating C++ on irc
11:27:13 <fizzie> Oh, I see.
11:27:19 <b_jonas> so I mean I wrote something that fits in one irc line and it could run it
11:27:31 <b_jonas> (after dozens of tries which led to segfaults and similar errors)
11:27:33 <fizzie> The above was done for candide, and also an auxiliary function, because I couldn't get around the auto-main.
11:27:56 <fizzie> http://sprunge.us/gbEF like that.
11:28:25 <fizzie> If you specify something that looks enough like main it doesn't add its own, but I couldn't do that and the char main[] at the same time.
11:28:41 <fizzie> Perhaps it could've been fooled by suitable macros, though.
11:28:53 <b_jonas> fizzie: I see
11:36:09 <fizzie> [14:35:56] <fizzie> ,cc #define main(args) dummy(args) \n const char main[] = "1\xc0""1\xff""1\xd2\xff\xc0\xff\xc7H\x8d""5\n\0\0\0\xb2\x06\x0f\x05\xb0<1\xff\x0f\x05hello\n"; int main(void) { return 0; }
11:36:13 <fizzie> [14:35:58] <candide> fizzie: [warning: 'main' is usually a function [-Wmain]] Function "main" not defined. hello
11:36:16 <fizzie> Ha.
11:36:42 <fizzie> I don't know where that one message comes from.
11:43:14 <mroman_> That's not a warning
11:43:17 <mroman_> That's an info.
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12:06:55 <ais523_> oh well, at least this explains why I got sent 2/3 of a P45 tax form for no apparent reason
12:07:34 <ais523_> I think there's a blog called mainisusuallyafunction, isn't there?
12:07:51 <ais523_> not sure if it's an actual #esoteric member who runs it, or just someone who's interested in similar topics
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12:19:48 <fizzie> Links to it have been posted on channel, but I don't think it's run by any regular here.
12:21:38 <fizzie> Oh, wait. Is it just kmc's thing?
12:21:48 <fizzie> There's the posting about the x86-no-registers thing.
12:21:57 <fizzie> "Posted by keegan" okay then.
12:22:05 <fizzie> Memory: never trust it.
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13:06:34 <ais523_> huh, kmc was talking about using fork() to implement continuations some time after I actually used INTERCAL's fork() equivalent to implement continuations there
13:06:43 <ais523_> the code was horrendously inefficient, ofc, but did seem to actually work
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14:52:21 <DootBot> DOOT DOOT!
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15:11:50 <TieSoul> !unefunge98 y$#> #;>:#,_#; #$< lol this outputs environment variables
15:11:53 <mroman_> @hoogle forever
15:11:54 <DootBot> TieSoul: ;<CTCP><CTCP>8<CTCP>ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\ProgramDataAPPDATA=C:\Users\thijsel\AppData\RoamingCOMPUTERNAME=THIJS-PCComSpec=C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exeCommonProgramFiles=C:\Program Files (x86)\Common FilesCommonProgramFi (Execution timed out.)
15:11:55 <lambdabot> Control.Monad forever :: Monad m => m a -> m b
15:19:43 <mroman_> man
15:20:52 <Bike> > forever [9]
15:20:56 <lambdabot> mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
15:20:59 <Bike> noice
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15:24:40 <fizzie> > forever []
15:24:42 <lambdabot> []
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16:26:35 <mroman_> And we have a new leader with 11B for Fibonacci Numbers :)
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16:56:05 <J_Arcane> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8318879
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20:37:31 <oerjan> <mroman_> @hoogle forever <-- good sentiment there
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21:08:31 <shachaf> oerjan: would you prefer that i don't tell you about wikipedia problems that i encounter
21:09:06 <oerjan> i would prefer that you get a bloody account and use it. what else do you expect? :P
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23:52:41 <oerjan> a less grave Gregor
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