00:00:31 <fizzie> (Probably won't notice the lag difference between DO's London and what Tilaa's Amsterdam would have been like.)
00:00:47 <Vorpal> Amsterdam should be slightly closer no?
00:01:18 <fizzie> For maybe four more days.
00:01:32 <fizzie> Moving to London myself soon.
00:01:43 <Vorpal> fizzie, where will you work then?
00:01:57 <Vorpal> Also, is it permanent or just for x months?
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00:03:20 <fizzie> Google, and permanently. Well, I mean, it's not fixed-term. I highly doubt I'll be there for more than a century.
00:03:31 <Vorpal> fizzie, JAlbum is shareware?
00:04:24 <Vorpal> Hm, how hard could it be to roll your own album generator?
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00:04:39 <Vorpal> Some scripts using exiftool and such
00:05:47 <fizzie> Vorpal: I think that's new. Probably doesn't have much in common with the JAlbum I used, what, 8 years ago maybe.
00:06:15 <Vorpal> Hard to find the other one then
00:07:05 <fizzie> It didn't do anything you couldn't recreate in a day.
00:07:48 <fizzie> Except maybe it had a GUI/wizard/something else of dubious worth.
00:08:30 <fizzie> Think I'll have to sleep now, still some packing to do. Night.
00:08:51 <Vorpal> I prefer a js free solution too, I googled and found a js library thingy
00:09:20 <fizzie> Oh, by the way, I use feh for selecting album pictures.
00:10:01 <Vorpal> fizzie, where is your album now again?
00:10:40 <Vorpal> And what do you mean by using feh for that? Isn't that just a tool like eog or whatever?
00:11:06 <fizzie> Something like feh -ZFd --action1 ';ln ...whatever to symlink the current image to a subfolder...' and then using 1 to select images for inclusion.
00:11:18 <fizzie> Quite primitive, but works fine.
00:11:51 <Vorpal> This sounds annoying to integrate with my current web site generation code though, which is haskell-based
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00:42:09 <Vorpal> fizzie, piwigo doesn't support postgre? Ouch
00:42:47 <Vorpal> Yet another reason to avoid it
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02:26:10 <zzo38> Why do I get a "No such interface supported" error message in 7-Zip when trying to use the -si switch?
02:28:47 <Solace> Whats it supposed to be doing?
02:29:37 <zzo38> It is supposed to be receiving the file from stdin
02:30:28 <zzo38> The documentation says for example "7z a archive.gz -tgzip -siDoc2.txt < Doc.txt" although I am doing it with a ZIP archive instead
02:31:28 <Solace> ill go see if i get the same error
02:33:25 <Solace> idk what you are doing zzo38 to get that error
02:34:06 <zzo38> My command looks like "7z a \html\rpg\bin\unuselessness1.zip -siunuselessness1.exe < game.exe"
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02:38:01 <Solace> what are you "trying" to do instead of what is it supposed to be doing
02:39:05 <zzo38> I try to add a file called "unuselessness1.exe" into the archive, its contents being the contents of the actual file called "game.exe" except for the filename.
02:39:58 <Solace> so the file you want put in is unuselessness1.exe but its actual name.is game.exw
02:40:43 <Solace> Is it because of the file names conflicting?
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02:41:51 <Solace> sometimes my stuff does that if its sudo name is example1.exe but its actually named example2.exe
02:41:53 <zzo38> No, it is because the program checks its own filename to determine the operation; the local file is called game.exe it doesn't care the other filename, but if it is renamed it automatically check for a file with the same name except .rpg at the end
02:42:36 <Solace> oh well then i have no idea i usually have to manually check that so.it doesnt cause errors
02:42:53 <Solace> god i keep hitting . instead of space
02:46:48 <FreeFull> I shouldn't be trying to debug at 2:46am, should I?
02:48:26 <Solace> being tired makes you code sloppier but faster and more efficiently in my experience
02:49:26 <FreeFull> It's not even something I wrote
02:50:00 <FreeFull> There is a segfault, which is mysterious because segfaults aren't meant to happen
02:53:31 <Solace> but then how did it happen?
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03:05:56 <Solace> dont you find that one episode of pokemon where ash saw some fish and he ran up and you could see on his face he was thinking "What the fuck are these"
03:06:20 <elliott> that was an interesting moment to switch to this channel
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04:24:55 <elliott> Lymia: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~jrose/values/values-0.html looks relevant to the multiple value returns you wanted to do in Java
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05:18:17 <zzo38> What I did is just make the batch file to rename the file before putting in the ZIP archive and then change back the name afterward to game.exe
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06:00:29 <oerjan> this stupid email spammer has sent me 14 spams on the same day
06:04:07 <elliott> so when are you immigrating
06:04:47 <oerjan> i have no interest in moving to the us
06:05:30 <oerjan> it's like the Land of Exactly the Kind of Opportunities I Don't Want
06:06:51 <oerjan> of course that also describes this entire planet.
06:07:25 <Taneb> My family essentially told me that I'm not allowed to immigrate to the US in case I get murdered
06:07:58 <oerjan> did you tell them you're not black tmh
06:08:12 <Taneb> Yes, but they insisted
06:09:05 <oerjan> just tell them "OK I was wavering between the US and Mexico, but you've convinced me."
06:09:36 <Taneb> If I do emigrate somewhere it'd probably be to western europe or the antipodes
06:09:51 <Taneb> (does Australia count as emigrating? I have citizenship...)
06:10:25 <oerjan> yeah tell them you're going there for spider research
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06:12:13 <Taneb> I think part of the reason my family doesn't want me to work abroad is that my dad decided to do that for a couple of years and then he got married and lives there
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06:14:04 <Taneb> And that's how my parents met
06:14:17 <oerjan> that's what i thought but i was afraid to ask
06:14:56 <oerjan> which makes me confused how you got to england
06:15:09 <Taneb> My dad's Australian by birth
06:16:09 <Taneb> Although if I emigrate and have children, my children will have migrants for three generations of the male line
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06:18:17 <Taneb> (my grandfather was Dutch whose family emigrated to Australia when he was young)
06:20:37 <oerjan> i don't think there were any immigrants in my family for several generations, but further back there are some dutch
06:20:49 <oerjan> those people got around
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06:29:40 <Solace> and im constantly scared for my families life and my own
06:30:04 <Solace> since America treated irish immigrants like shit for a long time
06:32:10 <elliott> yeah I'm sure you're going to be murdered for being white irish (get real)
06:33:22 <Solace> because living in a racist country and just cause im white? makes me not prone to murder?
06:34:04 <elliott> I retract my unintended initiation of this conversation.
06:35:08 <Solace> That get real comment makes me mad i wouldnt have to worry for safety of my family if the city i lived in didnt hate everyone who is an immigrant
06:36:07 <Solace> Dont just say that my family is Completely fine just because we are the same skin colour as everyother white person :l
06:36:55 <Solace> Anyways back to that there code
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08:36:09 <Sgeo> "Queen+King vs Rook+King turns out to be a forced win for the advantaged player with the Queen, but takes >50 moves to materialize. A later ruling had to allow an exception to the 50 move rule to account for grandmaster play that could force a win from the position, but required more than 50 moves to succeed."
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08:37:06 <zzo38> Maybe there is a better way to fix it?
08:41:30 <zzo38> What is this later ruling exactly?
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08:44:12 <Jafet> Clearly once a game reaches seven pieces, the result should be determined automatically
08:49:32 <zzo38> The game should be played unless one player resign, it end in a draw, or if you run out of time. If one player has time trouble maybe they cannot think of the way to win in a few seconds even if you have a forced win; in such a case you should try anyways, and probably you will lose.
08:50:19 <zzo38> However, for the reason specified above and for other reasons, maybe the fifty moves rule should be abolished. (You still have a draw by repetition rule, which probably is working good enough.)
09:06:04 <Jafet> Draw by repetition alone may not resolve a perpetual check, if the player under check can move pieces in a way that avoids repetitions.
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09:08:42 <fizzie> Vorpal: It does, actually. It's just slightly experimental, so they don't advertise it.
09:08:56 <fizzie> Vorpal: FWIW, IIRC Gallery2's PostgreSQL support left something to be desired too.
09:14:18 <fizzie> Vorpal: (I run a copy of MariaDB for Piwigo.)
09:18:28 <oerjan> Jafet: _eventually_ it does.
09:18:54 <oerjan> the time could conceivably be exponential in the worst case, though.
09:23:01 <Jafet> But still a constant
09:24:08 <AndoDaan> Anyone feel like playing a round of chess?
09:24:18 <oerjan> > exp (exp (exp (exp 1))) -- constant
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09:51:34 <elliott> oerjan: am I to assume 111 is not at all enticing for you :p
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09:53:03 <AndoDaan> I kinda meant on chess.com, but I'm up for it like this.
09:53:04 <coppro> abuse of mod authority right there
09:54:54 <coppro> AndoDaan: I would be up for a game if I didn't need to go to sleep
09:55:07 <coppro> (also I would have opened d4; I much prefer queen's pawn openings as white)
09:58:40 <b_jonas> sorry, I don't play chess, it's not my kind of game
09:59:23 <AndoDaan> Not a fan of boardgames in general, or particularly chess?
09:59:45 <b_jonas> Not a fan of games where I have to think.
09:59:54 <b_jonas> I like fun boardgames like Settlers of Catan.
09:59:57 <oerjan> elliott: well for both your version and oren's, i'm not sure how convenient length prefixes and no internal escaping is to handle
10:00:19 <b_jonas> But not serious boardgames like chess or go or backgammon, nor other serious games like bridge.
10:00:50 <oerjan> but your version has the additional annoyance that the prefix is as long as the string itself
10:01:10 <AndoDaan> I'd think Settlers of Catan can be played as seriously as Chess.
10:01:26 <oerjan> while his of course has that 256 length limit
10:01:36 <b_jonas> Yes it can, but I play it more like a party game, not a serious game.
10:01:48 <oerjan> anyway it's somewhat interesting, but i haven't thought hard about it
10:02:59 * oerjan has a feeling from his stomach that he's drunk too much cola over christmas
10:03:44 <Taneb> I'm gonna try to give up cola
10:04:30 <oerjan> well it's seems i have to cut down a bit until my stomach improves
10:05:20 <oerjan> b_jonas: hm i feel the same way about chess but i still like solitary puzzles - i think it's that NP vs. PSPACE split i've remarked on before
10:05:54 <oerjan> which becomes extra hard if i have to compete with someone else too
10:07:39 <Taneb> I enjoy chess but I'm not very good at it
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10:13:46 <Taneb> oerjan, are the IWC fora down for you?
10:14:47 <b_jonas> which is bad news because dmm is on summer vacation
10:15:25 <b_jonas> the message is "A database error occurred. This should be temporary. Please try again later. Do not notify me about this - there's nothing I can do about it."
10:16:01 <b_jonas> only the iwc main page is down
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10:16:20 <b_jonas> Taneb: try http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/draakslair/index.php directly
10:18:10 <J_Arcane> I think I'm gonna write a program that generates my resume in Markdown format.
10:18:47 <b_jonas> J_Arcane: make sure to convert it through a dozen intermediate formats, Markdown being the middle one
10:20:21 <oerjan> make a resume that is an ourobouros program hth
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10:31:54 <Vorpal> fizzie, hm. Yeah I'll roll my own instead
10:32:26 <Vorpal> To make something basic shouldn't be THAT hard
10:37:05 <Taneb> I did a horrible thing
10:37:05 <Taneb> http://lpaste.net/117410
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10:37:53 <b_jonas> Taneb: um, what does that do?
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10:38:04 <Taneb> b_jonas, computes collatz length
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12:28:59 <fizzie> Vorpal: We have a dynamic thing mostly because we wanted to have at least some sort of nominal user account thing to hide pictures of people behind. (Though I guess regular .htaccess would've been fine.)
12:29:20 <fizzie> elliott: My wife wanted me to tell you that these computers (esp. the SGI monitor), them be heavy. Just so you know.
12:29:50 <b_jonas> fungot, are these computers heavy?
12:29:50 <fungot> b_jonas: you may be holding haley's-- fort, seven days to the east. our food shipment is four days late, and all that.
12:49:00 <J_Arcane> Markdown's handling of newlines is dumb.
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14:35:56 <oren> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_hid_the_facts
14:36:25 <oren> what were they thinking?!
14:37:49 <oren> utf16 is a terrible idea
14:39:02 <oren> specifically, using utf16 along with ASCII is a terrible idea
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18:32:36 <oerjan> today: the great trinity of rain, sleet and ice
18:33:20 <lambdabot> LOWI 291820Z 09003KT 060V120 3000 SN SCT005 BKN020 M04/M05 Q1027 R08/19//95 TEMPO 1500 BKN009
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18:48:06 <lambdabot> EFHK 291820Z VRB02KT 5000 IC SCT002 M20/M23 Q1026 NOSIG
18:48:29 <fizzie> Don't think I've seen "IC" before.
18:48:45 <fizzie> Maybe it has something to do with ice.
18:48:50 <lambdabot> EGLL 291820Z 28002KT CAVOK 03/01 Q1042
18:48:58 <fizzie> Now there's a delta of 23 degrees.
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18:55:05 <oerjan> did you just pack fungot
18:58:14 <oerjan> istr runs on one of fizzie's physical boxes, so if he is moving...
18:59:07 <int-e> I missed the "moving" part, thanks.
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19:13:54 <fizzie> oerjan: I just moved the box from our extra room to the "staging area" in the living room.
19:14:32 <fizzie> oerjan: We're leaving it here until we have a permanent address, at which time the movers will come pack it up.
19:14:49 <oerjan> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
19:15:00 <fizzie> oerjan: My prognosis is that the box will go inexplicably offline somewhere between two and six days after we've left, but at least we've tried.
19:15:25 <fizzie> (Anyway, I'll be taking a copy with me, so I can set it up temporarily elsewhere when/if that happens.)
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19:20:21 <fizzie> fungot: How are you feeling?
19:20:22 <fungot> fizzie: where is perl6? hmm. maybe the snake has no interest in ant wars, ant ids are given on the anthill, generating several kill pockets.) ( 200 0.)
19:20:31 <fizzie> Business as usual, I think.
19:20:57 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
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19:33:07 <Solace> How do you do that ghosting command that kicks a person off your account
19:33:33 <elliott> /msg nickserv ghost nick password
19:33:41 <elliott> (no need for the password if you're identified to an account that has nick linked)
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19:50:38 <int-e> Ah, good comment about "slur": "'The same data may not be offered twice.' -- Oh please, you're targeting psychopaths, so why bother with setting up rules that you can't enforce?"
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20:06:59 <fizzie> elliott: You're in luck. In a cardboard box marked "pots, pans and textiles" in our basement, I found a piece of buried treasure: an extra fast-SCSI cable, the "webcam" (they didn't call it that) for the Indy, and (most importantly) an actual 13W3-13W3 monitor cable, which should be good enough for connecting both computers to the monitor so that you can actually see things.
20:07:00 <int-e> Oh well. It's an evil idea that deserves to fail; but it might actually work on a smaller scale (trading celebrity photos, incriminating information on politicians, and the like. I don't expect anything on the state secret level; more day-to-day blackmail material.
20:07:39 <fizzie> Oh, and what I think is an actual SGI three-button mouse, though IIRC that thing eats regular PS/2 keyboards and mice.
20:07:59 <fizzie> I haven't actually booted any of that stuff up yet, that's next on the list.
20:08:23 <int-e> Hmm, a mouse-eats-mouse world
20:08:53 <elliott> fizzie: is it extra fast, or just extra?
20:12:53 <oerjan> <int-e> Ah, good comment about "slur" <-- would you like to be swatted for referring vaguely to obscure things with ungoogleable names?
20:15:15 * oerjan gets the bright idea of adding site:reddit.com to the search
20:15:25 <int-e> oerjan: only if you take on google for 'go'
20:16:27 <oerjan> int-e: that's not ungoogleable it's the fourth hit hth
20:16:48 <int-e> oerjan: on google!
20:17:33 <int-e> "Go.com is the top-level home on the Internet to the online properties of The Walt Disney Company."
20:17:35 <oerjan> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qb6q6/wikileaks_introduces_slur_a_torbitcoin_based_open/ looks relevant
20:18:06 <int-e> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qb5wf/introducing_slur/
20:18:24 <int-e> I thougyht those people were not affiliated with wikileaks
20:18:34 <oerjan> int-e: it's not my fault google can cheat with googleability hth
20:19:20 <int-e> also the language has been around for a couple of years
20:19:33 <int-e> and anyway, you did find it
20:19:53 <fizzie> elliott: Just an extra, and fast.
20:20:01 <fizzie> The Indy makes a sound reminiscent of a chainsaw.
20:20:03 <oerjan> int-e: well yeah but i had to think laterally enough to realize it would be something that reddit would grab onto
20:20:06 <fizzie> I don't think it used to do that.
20:20:16 <fizzie> At any rate, it successfully booted up to a login screen.
20:20:32 <fizzie> I have absolutely no recollection what sort of usernames or passwords it may have had.
20:22:35 <int-e> (a user name is easy)
20:23:10 <int-e> did those things come with guest accounts for showing off the cool 3D stuff?
20:24:30 * int-e recalls playing forever with some deep menu built from rotating blocks
20:24:43 <fizzie> I know you can reset things with the IRIX installation media, which I don't have.
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20:25:44 <fizzie> I think you can also netboot it.
20:30:21 <fizzie> All these password lists I have are too new, too.
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20:32:08 <fizzie> I think I'll postpone further thinking when that stuff arrives. I'm sure something can be figured out.
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20:39:31 <fizzie> Heh, I seem to have a "unidirectional" SCSI cable here.
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20:39:58 <fizzie> In the sense that only one of the connectors fits the SCSI disk box, while both fit the SPARC.
20:40:15 <fizzie> (I seem to have used a knife to trim some extra plastic off the other end.)
20:45:22 <pikhq> Hooray, root canal.
20:45:29 <pikhq> (rarely used sentiments)
20:46:17 <fizzie> On the "bad news" side, there's no picture out of the SparcStation. But it might just be because the SGI monitor is incompatible. I don't remember ever using the SPARC with it, just with my old PC CRT (with the 13W3-to-4x-BNC cable).
20:46:35 <int-e> brilliant ... https://code.google.com/p/blockchain/source/browse/trunk ... 350k source code, 350k binary, 750k visual studio configuration (garbage) and a 127MB test data file... very economical
20:47:01 <fizzie> Could try the serial console, but don't have so many serial ports around here either.
20:51:56 <fizzie> I think I'll postpone that too, since there's other things to take care of.
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21:25:24 <fizzie> In the insurance form, I'm supposed to list all this stuff and how much it would cost to replace them.
21:26:23 <pikhq> That sounds hard to quantify.
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21:35:44 <TheM4ch1n3> Walking everywhere to get vibes from the spirit of God (Jesus), is cool, breathing in on plants and out on where people are looking where they are going is better.
21:36:29 <int-e> Wrong kind of esoterics?
21:37:31 <AndoDaan> I don't get the breathing out on people bit.
21:37:50 <TheM4ch1n3> just some research I am into, by avoiding churches, then mimicing the lord's behavour to re-aquire the knowledge he left physically within humanity itself
21:38:07 <vanila> Ccool TheM4ch1n3 Nice to meet you
21:38:45 <b_jonas> fungot, is breathing in on plants and out on where people are looking where they are going better?
21:38:45 <fungot> b_jonas: " this means that i'm probably the only way you can have fnord on the gay sex moved there instead of
21:38:57 <TheM4ch1n3> yeah, after talking to over 1000 people, in my lifetime (I imagine) - one realizes that most institutions suck.
21:39:13 <int-e> fungot: stop making sense!
21:39:13 <fungot> int-e: well here's my code...
21:39:23 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: esoteric: not found
21:39:28 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
21:39:51 <TheM4ch1n3> b_jonas: well it works through karma, shared vision = temporil boosted thought
21:40:31 <int-e> temporally? temporarily?
21:41:02 <TheM4ch1n3> my research has lead me to believe that when he was around, he had been boosting hes thinking power using the people - literally
21:41:45 <AndoDaan> Some sort of telepathy, or shared brainwaves?
21:41:49 <int-e> AndoDaan: maye? doubtful.
21:41:53 <vanila> TheM4ch1n3, sometimes, souls discard certain energy types from themselves
21:42:05 <TheM4ch1n3> int-e: yeah - temporarily - ispell, is one command I should use more often
21:42:56 <TheM4ch1n3> AndoDaan: more like, the spirit of God living within humanity at some level of evolution of GOD
21:43:04 <b_jonas> a spell checker doesn't help when I'm confusing similar words (dilate, dilute, delate, delayed, delete, delight, delude)
21:44:17 <AndoDaan> I mean, perfection must stretch back to infinity, otherwise it loses its meaning.
21:44:57 * pikhq just thinks there's no such think as a god or gods
21:44:59 <int-e> phew, "delate" is uncommon.
21:47:14 <b_jonas> but being uncommon doesn't help if you're trying to spellcheck stuff
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21:48:44 <int-e> AndoDaan: perfection evolves over time
21:49:25 <b_jonas> fungot, does perfection evolve over time?
21:49:25 <fungot> b_jonas: but it's always in the same timezone doesn't mean your day/ night at work, they just do
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21:49:34 <b_jonas> `8-ball does perfection evolve over time?
21:49:55 <b_jonas> `8-ball do you usually give more useful answers than fungot does?
21:49:55 <fungot> b_jonas: which code exactly? " both take a list like ( a. 3)),
21:50:24 <roasted42> erm, sorry - what was my last line ?
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21:53:58 <int-e> `8-ball is the sky blue?
21:56:02 <nycs> it is pretty cloudy
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21:57:12 <int-e> cloudy, predominantly nlack though.
21:58:13 <int-e> I didn't make the qwerty layout.
22:00:52 <TheM4ch1n3> AndoDaan: also, my research shows = he had been using the good karma from crowds of people - to bring heaven on Earth to those people, then use said return karma to do other things - like raise the dead
22:01:49 <int-e> that's the weirdest definition of "my research shows" that I've ever seen.
22:02:09 <TheM4ch1n3> AndoDaan: then realizing hes diciples where not normal people, they had been living with God - it all starts to make sense
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22:04:33 <AndoDaan> Not normal, like, some divinity got imprinted on them?
22:04:34 <TheM4ch1n3> int-e: well it is based on concepts of karma out = karma in - do good, and good returns - if it builds up to high and pulls in an 'evil - do-er', invert them infront of you, hate->love - cursing->blessing ... etc ...
22:08:20 <AndoDaan> Their share of the divine didn't strech far then, considering your view of the institution they had set up.
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22:11:23 <roasted42> AndoDaan: exactly, he had been "turning on, and turning off peter" using yes and no, before returning to himself(back then)/father(future??)
22:23:36 <roasted42> AndoDaan: is a short private message ok, my lag issue with multiple pingouts, rejoins is upsetting me
22:25:36 <fizzie> elliott: Here, a teaser trailer: https://www.dropbox.com/l/ibHE53Yl1CFHHO9yhQ7Jeu
22:27:16 <AndoDaan> Ah. Though I'm having fun, I can't afford to get my head back to thinking about God. It drove me insane a while back. I'll have to pass. :)
22:27:20 <fizzie> elliott: And as a bonus, boot-up sounds: https://www.dropbox.com/s/azl00sxqvi70ix0/indy_boot.ogg?dl=0
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22:39:21 <roasted42> AndoDaan: well it is a standing invitation to correct any insanity, as I've already been there and done that ;)
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22:52:44 <Solace> I need that unaffiliated thing
22:52:52 <Solace> I dont need this ip showing
22:53:12 <Solace> Wheres that um? chat with all those mods?
22:54:13 <Solace> Ok ill just use my phone app for dis
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22:55:10 <roasted42> yeah, I've still gotta run around telling people there phone can go onto IRC, I think I will phrase it so: "IRC, has been around since before facebook!!"
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23:41:42 <AndoDaan> Thx, roasted42, I'll keep it in mind. :). Cya, guys.
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23:43:05 <int-e> Ok, I got to watch the the Derren Brown clip discussed yesterday. I like how he says "I haven't touched the paper" while holding onto one of its ends...
23:44:01 <int-e> And I wonder how many of the players he had to bribe for their post-game interview ;-)
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23:57:38 <zzo38> Is there Magic: the Gathering card to grant tapped creatures Exalted ability?