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00:00:03 <oerjan> oren: or spell it hth
00:00:10 <zzo38> Won't it tell you in the dictionary the way of pronounce it?
00:00:36 <oerjan> oren: i'm not absolutely sure i know either, i've been assuming it's the obvious way?
00:00:36 <shachaf> zzo38: What do you think of Raymond Smullyan?
00:01:00 <frecz> to visit Canad ais on my bucket list
00:01:06 <frecz> sooner or later
00:01:07 <shachaf> Canad ais523
00:01:42 <zzo38> shachaf: I haven't read any of those book yet but I should read it, and then I can know.
00:01:51 <shachaf> zzo38: Correct.
00:02:07 <boily> frecz: by the way, let me ask you the The Question: what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh?
00:02:11 <oren> sin kron ick it ee?
00:02:13 <mauris> oerjan: itym: "and wouldn't recognize a synchronicity if two of them bit you in the ass at the same time hth" hth
00:02:26 <oerjan> mauris: darn you got me there
00:02:36 <frecz> boily: why would you be interested in my body weight?
00:02:42 <mauris> -issity, oren
00:02:46 <oerjan> mauris: i think this is synchronistic with the recent banach-tarski event hth
00:02:49 <shachaf> No one asked about your body weight.
00:02:49 <boily> oren: sink cron iss it ee.
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00:03:02 <mauris> `? the question
00:03:03 <HackEgo> the question? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:03:29 <oerjan> `? question
00:03:30 <HackEgo> question? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:03:32 <boily> frecz: it is traditional. it is part of the The Question. also, you don't have to be truthful. in fact, a lot of us are actively unhelpful for that hth
00:04:08 <frecz> boily: I'm a bit overweight but not obese if that is what you were looking for
00:04:09 <oerjan> `le/rn the question/The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master.
00:04:09 <zzo38> I thought it is to calculate the center of mass?
00:04:11 <HackEgo> Learned «the question»
00:04:48 <shachaf> Is there only one The Question?
00:05:02 <shachaf> I thought the The Question boily asks was one of several.
00:05:03 <mauris> zzo38: i thought so too, then dismissed it as being too obvious :(
00:05:12 <boily> it's the The Question. no dualism, no hambiguity.
00:05:14 <oerjan> shachaf: i don't know, maybe should try running it through Banach-Tarski?
00:05:17 <oerjan> *+we
00:05:21 <boily> mauris: zzo38 is correct.
00:05:21 <oren> `1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>?
00:05:22 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>?: No such file or directory
00:05:28 <oren> testing new font
00:05:37 <oren> looks ok
00:05:41 <shachaf> oren: please test new font in your /msg HackEgo window twh
00:05:47 <boily> éèàçù?
00:05:59 <zzo38> There might be other question too that other people can ask too, I suppose
00:06:15 <mauris> §€µ£²³. azerty helpfulness right here
00:06:21 <frecz> ok guys off to quake live
00:06:25 <frecz> take care
00:06:52 <boily> zzo38: yes, but they aren't going to be completely The-y. their The-ness will only be strictly less than the The of the The Question itself.
00:06:57 <oren> OCR A EXTENDED is my new font
00:07:11 * boily mapoles mauris for using the most horrible layout out there. BLETCH!
00:07:21 <zzo38> boily: Yes, that does seem correct
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00:08:04 <oerjan> <shachaf> oops, missed a question mark <-- wait, i think i overinterpreted that missing mark
00:08:17 <oerjan> oh well, it was probably fate.
00:08:47 <shachaf> oerjan: it was meant to be "coincidence?"
00:08:53 <oren> those characters are showing up fine.
00:09:00 <shachaf> and then you interpreted it as the opposite or something
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00:09:55 <mauris> boily: you should like, weight by lines typed!!
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00:14:35 <oerjan> shachaf: yep, ending with your brutal conversion to hasidism
00:14:58 <oerjan> hm, are you at berkeley, or just nearby
00:15:14 <boily> mauris: fizzie does that in his fizziegraphs.
00:15:20 <shachaf> I'm in Berkeley, CA.
00:15:24 * oerjan has recently learned weird things about berkeley
00:15:24 <shachaf> Do you mean the university?
00:15:51 <oerjan> i'm not sure, how far does the weirdness spread?
00:16:19 <shachaf> The city is a nuclear-free zone, the university isn't.
00:16:24 <oerjan> aha
00:16:34 <oerjan> does it have its own reactor?
00:16:42 <oerjan> or five
00:17:35 <shachaf> What's the weirdness you were talking about?
00:18:39 <oren> I'm undecided between OCR A and this font http://postimg.org/image/atjas13rt/
00:19:08 <mauris> help
00:19:23 <oerjan> shachaf: well one scott a blog pointed me to another and suddenly i found myself in a post about polyamorism at berkeley
00:19:31 <oerjan> er
00:19:33 <oerjan> *reading
00:19:39 <oerjan> i wasn't actually mentioned
00:19:45 <mauris> i would stop using computers if those were The Two fonts
00:20:02 <shachaf> oerjan: can you help me parse the beginning of that sentence twh
00:20:10 <oerjan> and eliezer yudkowski was part of it
00:20:19 <mauris> "one Scott A. blog" etc
00:20:28 <shachaf> Ah.
00:20:44 <oerjan> shachaf: scott aaronson has been recently impressed with the content on scott alexander's blog
00:20:51 <oren> eliezer yudkowski is the harem-forming prophet of Transhumanism
00:21:08 <oerjan> oren: i just didn't know he was being so literal about it
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00:22:11 <oren> Overall it seems anyone who starts a religion gets lots of women
00:22:46 <oerjan> oren: i didn't know that applied to uber-geek religions too
00:24:43 <oerjan> *yudkowsky
00:24:51 <oerjan> never can remember how to spell it
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00:28:09 <shachaf> oerjan: which part is the weirdness twh
00:28:44 <oerjan> the way polyamorism was apparently considered completely normal in that community
00:30:05 <oerjan> i would add "not that there is anything wrong with that", but i'd like to give the experiment a few more decades before concluding.
00:30:10 <shachaf> i'm not sure that's a berkeley thing in particular
00:34:03 <oerjan> well obviously i'm overinterpreting things again
00:36:22 <shachaf> anyway there have been better-qualified people than me to comment in this channel
00:36:32 <shachaf> not sure whether there are any around nowadays
00:36:41 <shachaf> probably
00:38:41 <shachaf> `` hg log wisdom/c++ | grep summary:
00:38:42 <HackEgo> summary: <fizzie> echo \'Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people.\' > wisdom/c++ # C already had a good-enough entry
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00:49:52 <shachaf> `wisdom
00:49:53 <HackEgo> tar/The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf
00:50:15 <shachaf> fizzie: Comment support is a good point against mk.
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01:06:13 <oren> The main reason I have contempt for Eliezer Yudkowsky is I can't find a single example of actual code written by him.
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01:20:15 <oerjan> oren: heh
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01:22:25 <oerjan> `bienvenido Yelany
01:22:25 <HackEgo> Yelany: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.)
01:22:42 <oren> Someone should go and find EY and get him to do FizzBuzz
01:23:00 <Yelany> hello
01:23:07 <oren> hi
01:23:24 <oerjan> oren: he'll do it as soon as he can prove that FizzBuzz is Friendly hth
01:23:25 <Yelany> hablan englis
01:23:43 <Yelany> quien habla espan
01:24:47 <oerjan> sorry, only english
01:25:00 <Yelany> no entiendo
01:25:38 <oerjan> "Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español."
01:27:09 <oren> 英語と日本語だけ分かります
01:27:19 <oerjan> oren: ONLY ENGLISH I SAID
01:27:45 <Yelany> hla
01:28:02 <Yelany> able en espaol prfa
01:29:13 <oren> スペイン語分かんないよ
01:30:14 <oerjan> Yelany: Entonces tengo que usar Google Translate, y que se pone rápido molesto.
01:30:24 <Yelany> si
01:31:10 <Yelany> ass
01:31:15 <Yelany> chu
01:31:37 <Yelany> hello
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01:32:19 <Yelany> I have a girlfriend who says
01:32:58 <oren> 青い鳥二匹は空に飛んでる
01:35:13 <oren> what does she say?
01:35:58 <Yelany> I have a girlfriend who says
01:36:32 <oren> 赤い魚を食べたくてる
01:37:09 <oren> You have a girlfriend who says "I have a girlfriend"?
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01:38:55 <oren> 魚一匹、魚二匹、赤い魚、青い魚
01:41:51 <Yelany> quien tiene novia
01:42:07 <Yelany> busquelo traducido
01:42:12 <oren> 帽子を株った猫が帰ります
01:43:25 <oren>  damn, wrong words.
01:44:00 <oren> 帽子を被った猫はかえります
01:44:26 <Yelany> hay me boy
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01:53:02 <oren> mmm freezie
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02:02:58 <oerjan> `addquote <Jafet> I guess the problem is, the cache size bounds the evilness of the memory bus
02:03:01 <HackEgo> 1248) <Jafet> I guess the problem is, the cache size bounds the evilness of the memory bus
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02:16:46 <oren> Waitm why did go I buy a freezie when I have ice, sugar and a blender available in my house
02:16:54 <oren> I'm dumb
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02:21:34 <oerjan> oren: because adventure!
02:21:38 <oerjan> hth
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02:23:04 <Jafet> Because consumerism
02:23:22 <oerjan> aww
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02:28:55 <oren> Jafet: I guess society has trained me to spend money on things I can make for myself.
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03:07:01 <oren> http://www.colorpicker.com/85cdff
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03:08:12 <oerjan> pizzazz
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04:25:23 <oren> Idea: language in which ansi escape sequences, or some other method of specifying color, form part of the syntax
04:26:23 <oerjan> ...isn't this what colorforth does?
04:27:08 <oren> what's colorforth
04:27:23 <oerjan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColorForth
04:30:26 <oren> Hmm only two colors. I was thinking like using colors to link together elements that would normally require parentheses
04:31:44 <oren> So RED(x)GRN(+)RED(y)+GRN(z) means (x+y)*z
04:31:54 <oerjan> um there's at least also yellow
04:33:02 <oren> Or suppose you have if ... if ... else, you can color the else the same as one of the ifs to link it
04:34:32 <oerjan> fancy
04:36:55 <oerjan> "There are white comments, yellow macros, red definitions with gray instructions and green literal numbers and calls to previously defined (red) words."
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04:38:37 <oren> yeah, there the colors sort of are like sigils. I'm using them like brackets and parens
04:39:08 <oren> ColorAlgol
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04:39:44 <oerjan> oren: that's going to give some complications when your nesting is deeper than your number of colors
04:40:26 <oren> Hmmmmm my terminal supports 256 colors tortal, with some duplicates
04:41:15 <oren> but xterm allows 2^24 colors with ^[[38;2;R;G;Bm
04:41:38 <oerjan> complications now shift to actually distinguishing the colors...
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04:41:44 <oren> Yup
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04:42:19 <Jafet> You're already going to have complications when your nesting is deeper than 256
04:43:11 <oerjan> Jafet: don't be silly!
04:45:05 <Jafet> I think emacs cycles through colours for nested brackets
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04:59:24 <oerjan> TIL the uk has special coins that are only used by the queen for a special yearly charity event on maundy thursdays
04:59:47 <oerjan> (maundy money)
05:00:27 <oerjan> or, it used to be charity, these days it's apparently more of an honor thing
05:04:57 <oren> Look at all these colors!!!! http://postimg.org/image/g6dbw90bx/
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07:13:56 <oren> Why doesn't anyone just generate .h files from .c files?
07:37:53 <zzo38> I don't know if is some program exist for such purposes
07:38:15 <Deewiant> http://www.hwaci.com/sw/mkhdr/ http://invisible-island.net/cproto/cproto.html
07:38:29 <zzo38> Although, sometimes you might want to put some thing only in a .h file anyways
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08:04:58 <Jafet> There are some wimpy programmers who say that you should write the header files first.
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08:32:58 <oerjan> `culprits wisdom/quit
08:33:00 <HackEgo> oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull cpressey
08:33:28 <oerjan> `` hg log wisdom/quit | grep cpressey
08:33:28 <shachaf> `` hg log wisdom/quit | grep summary:
08:33:29 <HackEgo> summary: <cpressey> learn /quit
08:33:29 <HackEgo> summary: <Bike> revert \ summary: <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: <cpressey> learn /quit
08:33:41 <oerjan> ah
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08:42:28 * oerjan wonders if boily and quintopia ever got that game going
08:58:48 <Taneb> oerjan, game?
09:01:42 <oerjan> boily was trying to download something from Steam which they were going to play
09:02:32 <shachaf> Haneb
09:03:43 <Taneb> shachelloaf
09:05:16 <shachaf> curses
09:05:26 <shachaf> a hello so convoluted my /hilights don't catch it
09:05:41 <Taneb> I do try my best
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11:23:08 <FreeFull> Any time I get highlighted in here
11:23:13 <FreeFull> It's because someone did hg log
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11:26:09 <Jafet> Better change your name, and maybe burn your fingerprints off.
11:28:01 <Jafet> `cat bin/culprits
11:28:01 <HackEgo> hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs
11:29:40 <Jafet> `culprits bin/culprits
11:29:41 <HackEgo> tswett tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly shachaf
11:30:10 <Jafet> `unicode zero width space
11:30:10 <HackEgo> ​​
11:30:34 <fowl> 👋
11:30:49 <Jafet> I only needed one, but anyway
11:31:24 <fowl> Thats a hello hand i think
11:31:41 <fowl> 👐jazzhands
11:35:44 <FreeFull> `unicode pile of poo
11:35:45 <HackEgo> U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddca9 Decimal: &#128169; \ 💩 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
11:43:43 <fowl> 👉👌
11:46:10 <Jafet> `` sed -i -e 's,$, | sed "s/\\([][{}\\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\\\\`-]\\)\\([][{}\\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\\\\`-]\\+\\)/\\1​\\2/g",' bin/culprits
11:46:12 <HackEgo> No output.
11:46:20 <Jafet> `culprits bin/culprits
11:46:22 <HackEgo> J​afet t​swett t​swett s​hachaf s​hachaf s​hachaf F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly s​hachaf
11:51:52 <Jafet> `unicode 👋
11:51:53 <HackEgo> U+1F44B WAVING HAND SIGN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 8b UTF-16BE: d83ddc4b Decimal: &#128075; \ 👋 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
11:52:10 <Jafet> Bet that's going to be animated in the next unicode standard
11:58:16 <FireFly> I think bin/culprits used to use ZWSP, but shachaf complained about non-ASCII characters
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12:04:54 <fowl> Zswp is a fad
12:08:13 <Jafet> ASCII is a fad
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12:14:30 <Jafet> "These data support the contention that crickets contain quantities of many nutrients that are essential to humans and show that the insect represents a commercially feasible source of food for human populations."
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12:30:56 <FreeFull> `culprits .
12:30:58 <HackEgo> J​afet o​erjan o​erjan o​ren o​erjan s​hachaf o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan b​oily i​nt-e s​hachaf s​hachaf i​nt-e i​nt-e S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​ren o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan T​aneb
12:36:15 <b_jonas> `` culprits . | wc
12:36:17 <HackEgo> ​ 1 5805 66729
12:36:54 <b_jonas> `` culprits . | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tr -s \\n\
12:36:57 <HackEgo> ​ 1 A​ftran \ 1 a​is523unfoog \ 1 B​icyclidine \ 1 B​ike_ \ 1 C​allForJudgement \ 1 c​uttlefish \ 1 d​alias \ 1 d​belange \ 1 E​ldis4 \ 1 e​stin \ 1 |​evilliopttic_PA \ 1 f​ungot \ 1 h​iato \ 1 K​oen_ \ 1 l​ambdabot \ 1 m​rout \ 1 N​ihilistDandy \ 1 n​itia \ 1 n​vd \ 1 o
12:37:16 <b_jonas> `` culprits . | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tr -s \\n\ \
12:37:18 <HackEgo> ​ 1 A​ftran 1 a​is523unfoog 1 B​icyclidine 1 B​ike_ 1 C​allForJudgement 1 c​uttlefish 1 d​alias 1 d​belange 1 E​ldis4 1 e​stin 1 |​evilliopttic_PA 1 f​ungot 1 h​iato 1 K​oen_ 1 l​ambdabot 1 m​rout 1 N​ihilistDandy 1 n​itia 1 n​vd 1 o​onbotti 1 o​rin 1 P​iRSquared17 1 p​uritania
12:37:24 <b_jonas> `` culprits . | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \
12:37:27 <HackEgo> ​ 1446 o​erjan 614 e​lliott 520 s​hachaf 183 b​oily 177 G​reyKnight 172 J​afet 165 k​mc 157 f​izzie 138 R​oujo 132 T​aneb 120 a​is523 101 m​roman_ 98 B​ike 92 n​ortti 90 n​ooodl 85 P​hantom_Hoover 77 i​nt-e 67 S​geo 64 m​rhmouse 63 c​oppro 60 o​lsner 58 F​ireFly 56 m​roman 54 h
12:40:20 <b_jonas> `` ls bin/culprit*
12:40:21 <HackEgo> bin/culprits
12:41:18 <b_jonas> `` o=bin/culprits-c && echo $'#!/bin/sh\n''culprits "$@" | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \ ' > "$o" && chmod a+x "$o"
12:41:22 <HackEgo> No output.
12:41:32 <b_jonas> `culprits-c .
12:41:35 <HackEgo> ​ 1446 o​erjan 614 e​lliott 520 s​hachaf 183 b​oily 177 G​reyKnight 172 J​afet 165 k​mc 157 f​izzie 138 R​oujo 132 T​aneb 120 a​is523 101 m​roman_ 98 B​ike 92 n​ortti 90 n​ooodl 85 P​hantom_Hoover 77 i​nt-e 67 S​geo 64 m​rhmouse 63 c​oppro 60 o​lsner 58 F​ireFly 56 m​roman 54 h
12:41:41 <b_jonas> `culprits-c bin
12:41:43 <HackEgo> ​ 286 o​erjan 175 s​hachaf 104 J​afet 97 e​lliott 80 f​izzie 61 R​oujo 38 k​mc 37 n​ooodl 33 n​ortti 29 i​nt-e 29 F​ireFly 28 c​00kiemon5ter 26 m​rhmouse 26 i​on 25 b​oily 23 a​is523 22 T​aneb 22 m​roman_ 20 G​reyKnight 20 B​ike 19 S​geo 19 o​lsner 19 m​roman 19 b​_jonas 15 z
12:41:46 <b_jonas> `culprits-c wisdom
12:41:48 <HackEgo> ​ 492 o​erjan 170 s​hachaf 103 b​oily 55 e​lliott 50 T​aneb 38 G​reyKnight 32 m​roman 31 m​roman_ 28 P​hantom_Hoover 28 i​nt-e 27 R​oujo 18 B​ike 17 Z​ombieCheney 16 t​swett 16 o​lsner 16 F​reeFull 15 J​afet 12 z​zo38 12 z​ui438s 12 J​Winslow23 12 G​regor 11 n​ortti 10 f​izzie 1
12:43:18 <Jafet> `? statistics
12:43:19 <HackEgo> statistics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
12:48:41 <Jafet> `cat bin/culprits
12:48:41 <HackEgo> hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs | sed "s/\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\)\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\+\)/\1​\2/g"
12:50:45 <Jafet> `` hg log --removed . | grep summary: | sed -n '/`revert/{n;p;}' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs | sed "s/\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\)\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\+\)/\1​\2/g" | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \
12:50:48 <HackEgo> ​ 1 i​nt-e 1 e​lliott
12:51:25 <Jafet> `` hg log --removed . | grep summary: | sed -n '/> revert/{n;p;}' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs | sed "s/\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\)\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\+\)/\1​\2/g" | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \
12:51:27 <HackEgo> ​ 87 o​erjan 56 s​hachaf 24 e​lliott 8 J​afet 7 i​nt-e 6 t​swett 6 m​onqy 5 b​oily 5 a​is523 4 R​oujo 4 P​hantom_Hoover 4 F​reeFull 4 c​oppro 3 T​aneb 3 S​geo 3 F​ireFly 3 B​ike 2 Z​ombieCheney 2 r​anc 2 n​ortti 2 i​zabera 2 h​agb4rd 2 G​regor 2 f​izzie 1 z​zo38 1 Z​omie
12:55:06 <Jafet> `unicode U+0F
12:55:07 <HackEgo>
12:55:17 <Jafet> `multicode U+0F
12:55:17 <HackEgo> U+000F <control> \ UTF-8: 0f UTF-16BE: 000f Decimal: &#15; \ \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral)
12:55:56 <Jafet> `echo 'a\x0fb'
12:55:56 <HackEgo> ​'a\x0fb'
12:56:01 <Jafet> `` echo -e 'a\x0fb'
12:56:01 <HackEgo> ab
12:56:30 <Jafet> It disappears in my client. Spooky.
12:57:14 <Jafet> `revert bin/culprits
12:57:14 <HackEgo> abort: unknown revision 'bin/culprits'!
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13:00:54 <Jafet> `` echo -E 'hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '\''{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'\'' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs' > bin/culprits && chmod +x bin/culprits
13:00:56 <HackEgo> No output.
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14:45:41 <oren> My dad says he has eaten locusts with honey when he was in Africa.
14:46:46 <oren> My favorite control character is ENQ
14:47:18 <oren> also known as u+000E
14:50:14 <oren> `unicode ENQ
14:50:16 <HackEgo> U+0045 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E \ UTF-8: 45 UTF-16BE: 0045 Decimal: &#69; \ E (e) \ Lowercase: U+0065 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+004E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N \ UTF-8: 4e UTF-16BE: 004e Decimal: &#78; \ N (n) \ Lowercase: U+006E \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0051 LATIN C
14:50:24 <oren> `unicode U+0E
14:50:24 <HackEgo>
14:50:54 <oren> `multicode U+0E
14:50:55 <HackEgo> U+000E <control> \ UTF-8: 0e UTF-16BE: 000e Decimal: &#14; \ \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral)
14:51:49 <oren> fungot, which control character do you like best?
14:51:50 <fungot> oren: when the rules except when those duties involve acting as the rolebearer for that office.
14:55:09 <boily> helloren. locusts are quite tasty.
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15:01:01 <fowl> `unicode 🗾
15:01:01 <HackEgo> U+1F5FE SILHOUETTE OF JAPAN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 97 be UTF-16BE: d83dddfe Decimal: &#128510; \ 🗾 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
15:01:31 <fowl> `unicode ♨
15:01:32 <HackEgo> U+2668 HOT SPRINGS \ UTF-8: e2 99 a8 UTF-16BE: 2668 Decimal: &#9832; \ ♨ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
15:01:48 <fowl> Looks like javas logo
15:02:00 <Jafet> Hot Spring?
15:02:29 <fowl> For me its three red squiggles out of a red circle
15:03:05 <Jafet> (http://projects.spring.io/spring-framework)
15:03:35 <fowl> Wat
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15:04:33 <fowl> `unicode 💠
15:04:34 <HackEgo> U+1F4A0 DIAMOND SHAPE WITH A DOT INSIDE \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a0 UTF-16BE: d83ddca0 Decimal: &#128160; \ 💠 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
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15:17:13 <boily> hm. only some of these characters display properly. http://imgur.com/GwylgyH
15:17:21 <boily> (and by some, there's only one.)
15:19:01 <Taneb> boily, same for me
15:19:14 <Taneb> Actually I think we're using the same font
15:20:25 <boily> I'm using the powerline-patched version of Liberation Mono.
15:20:57 <oren> I can see most of those characters because I have a bunch of japanese fonts installed.
15:21:15 <oren> I don't see the one with a diamond
15:21:31 <fowl> I have ubuntu fonts on my pc and it shows everything
15:21:44 <fowl> All emojis at least
15:23:08 <boily> font management involves vantablack-grade dark magic.
15:23:08 <Jafet> So, how many other national maps are in unicode
15:24:28 <fowl> I actually thought that was a tear in space time but looking closer it does kind of look like the japanese islands
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15:25:14 <fowl> `multicode 🌎🌏🌍
15:25:15 <HackEgo> U+1F30E EARTH GLOBE AMERICAS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8e UTF-16BE: d83cdf0e Decimal: &#127758; \ 🌎 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30F EARTH GLOBE ASIA-AUSTRALIA \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8f UTF-16BE: d83cdf0f Decimal: &#127759; \ 🌏 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30D EARTH GLOBE EU
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16:12:50 <boily> `wisdom
16:12:50 <HackEgo> piet/Piet is a really colorful programming language.
16:14:12 <boily> `wisdom
16:14:15 <HackEgo> ramen/拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。
16:14:19 <boily> `wisdom
16:14:19 <HackEgo> phantom__hoover/Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is.
16:14:24 <boily> `wisdom
16:14:25 <HackEgo> caps lock/CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR TIRED OLD MEMES
16:15:15 <boily> there was some deep meaning somewhere behind the ramen entry...
16:15:37 <boily> speaking of ramens, I'm hungry.
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16:20:42 <FreeFull> `wisdom
16:20:43 <HackEgo> for further details for futher details./See `? for further details for futher details.
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19:09:15 <boily> @metar CYUL
19:09:16 <lambdabot> CYUL 121900Z 22012KT 15SM FEW040 FEW240 28/21 A2994 RMK SC1CI1 SC TR CU EMBD SLP138 DENSITY ALT 1500FT
19:09:44 <boily> shoo! go away, you moistening TR CU! my laundry needs to dry hth!
19:11:28 <coppro> get a dryer hth
19:11:46 <mauris_> `wisdom
19:11:47 <HackEgo> lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups.
19:11:58 <mauris_> `monoids
19:11:59 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: monoids: not found
19:12:03 <mauris_> `? monoids
19:12:03 <HackEgo> Monoids are the easy version of categories.
19:12:23 <boily> coppro: I can't, there's no dryer outlet in my apartment.
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19:12:48 <boily> `wisdom
19:12:49 <HackEgo> slist/Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck.
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19:38:31 <boily> pikhelloq. temporarily or permanently?
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19:39:09 <pikhq> Current location: temporary (about the next month). In Bay Area: permanently.
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19:47:19 <zzo38> @metar CYVR
19:47:19 <lambdabot> CYVR 121928Z 10009KT 12SM SCT018 BKN030 OVC100 19/15 A3002 RMK CU3SC3AC2 SLP167 DENSITY ALT 300FT
19:49:15 <boily> @metar CYYZ
19:49:15 <lambdabot> CYYZ 121900Z 15009KT 120V200 15SM FEW050 FEW160 BKN250 OVC280 28/15 A3001 RMK SC1AC1CI4CC2 SLP159 DENSITY ALT 2000FT
19:49:41 <boily> @metar CYOW
19:49:41 <lambdabot> CYOW 121900Z 27006KT 160V290 15SM FEW040 SCT180 SCT220 30/19 A2997 RMK CU2AC1CI1 SLP147 DENSITY ALT 2100FT
19:49:59 <coppro> @metar CYKF
19:49:59 <lambdabot> CYKF 121900Z AUTO 24004KT 190V270 9SM OVC050 27/16 A3002 RMK SLP164 DENSITY ALT 2500FT
19:50:44 <boily> CYKF?
19:51:27 <boily> ah, "Region of Waterloo".
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20:54:25 <fowl> Im not going to ask for the thousanth time what metar is
20:54:43 <fowl> I want to though
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20:58:35 <fizzie> MEteorological Terminal Aviation Routine (Weather Report), which looks like a string of words randomly strung together.
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20:59:22 <fizzie> (That seems to be the most popular expansion, anyway.)
20:59:44 <fizzie> @metar EGLL
20:59:44 <lambdabot> EGLL 122050Z 22008KT 9999 FEW020 18/16 Q1017 NOSIG
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21:04:14 <ais523> I'm more interested in how to discover what the four-letter codes are (and what the actual report means)
21:05:39 <boily> fellowl. don't resist, METARs are good for you.
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21:06:12 <boily> ais523: the four letter codes at the beginning are ICAO airport codes.
21:07:04 <ais523> @tell oerjan well system F type inference is known undecidable, so it wouldn't surprise me if the type system were TC; also even in the absence of recursion, simply-typed lambda calculus + imperative constants (variables, while loops, etc.) gives you undecidable equivalence in the presence of free variables
21:07:04 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
21:07:52 <boily> then it's <day of Month><hour><minutes>Z, with UTC time. the next group is <direction of wind (3 digits)><force of wind (two digits)>[G<gusts (two digits)>]KT, with force of wind in knots.
21:08:29 <boily> after that, it gets a little bit funky. the only common group between all national standards is <temperature>/<dew point> in celsius.
21:08:34 <fizzie> Sometimes the direction is VaRiaBle (VRB).
21:09:18 <ais523> @metar EGBB
21:09:19 <lambdabot> EGBB 122050Z 31007KT 9999 SCT036 19/10 Q1015
21:09:21 <boily> cloud coverage is pretty much the same the world over, but Canadian METARs add in cloud types.
21:09:22 <ais523> looks like that's my local one
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21:10:11 <ais523> or, well, Birmingham Airport and the NEC basically form a region of their own
21:10:19 <boily> ais523: for you, 9999 means "nothing to signal about visibility", there are SCaTtered clouds at 3600', it's 19°C outside and air pressure is 101,5 kPa.
21:10:20 <ais523> they're not that close to the heavily populated areas of Birmingham
21:10:39 <boily> (can't remember if the Q group is airfield or sea level pressure.)
21:11:16 <boily> (ah, Qxxxx is QNH, therefore sea level.)
21:11:21 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
21:11:21 <lambdabot> KOAK 122053Z 27014KT 10SM FEW015 BKN250 24/12 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP175 T02390122 58000
21:11:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[EsoAPI]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43464&oldid=41868 * 70.190.164.6 * (+79) /* External resources */ fixed my site
21:11:50 <ais523> boily: wouldn't make too much difference here, Birmingham isn't particularly high-lying (although it contains tons of small hills; there's a carpark in the city centre where you can go in at ground level, go up 8 floors, then after using a series of bridges come out at ground level)
21:12:06 <ais523> err, maybe only 7 floors actually, not sure whether the bottom floor is numbered 0 or 1
21:12:36 <ais523> hmm, that IP has no idea how links work in MediaWiki
21:12:37 <boily> @metar CYUL
21:12:38 <lambdabot> CYUL 122100Z 24011KT 15SM FEW040 FEW240 30/20 A2991 RMK CU1CI1 CU TR CI TR SLP128 DENSITY ALT 1800FT
21:12:44 <ais523> how long shall we take for them to notice before fixing it?
21:13:42 <fizzie> @metar EFHK
21:13:43 <lambdabot> EFHK 122050Z 32006KT 9999 FEW035 11/09 Q1008 NOSIG
21:13:52 <fizzie> Good old Finnish summer going on there.
21:13:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[EsoAPI]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43465&oldid=43464 * 70.190.164.6 * (-2) trying that again
21:14:18 <ais523> fizzie: I thought 19/10 was humid, but 11/09 seems much worse
21:14:32 <fizzie> Admittedly it's past midnight.
21:15:12 <fizzie> 81% relative humidity, says my normal weather website.
21:15:58 <int-e> @metar LOWI
21:15:59 <lambdabot> LOWI 122050Z 16005KT 120V190 9999 BKN075 FEW075CB 25/11 Q1018 NOSIG
21:16:25 <fizzie> ais523: Heathrow had 18/16.
21:19:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Hanoi Love]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43466&oldid=43408 * 70.190.164.6 * (+80) fixed my site
21:20:53 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Hanoi Love]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43467&oldid=43466 * 70.190.164.6 * (+4)
21:21:09 <int-e> `somebody needs to learn about the preview option
21:21:10 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: somebody: not found
21:21:55 <fizzie> They seem to have gotten the link syntax, but I'm not sure why they didn't remove the old link that time.
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21:40:34 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Linguine]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43468&oldid=13253 * 70.190.164.6 * (+3) fixed my site
21:44:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Boolfuck]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43469&oldid=43451 * 70.190.164.6 * (+17) /* See also */ add BitChanger
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21:51:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Hanoi Love]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43470&oldid=43467 * 70.190.164.6 * (+83) include link to programs
21:52:08 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Linguine]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43471&oldid=43468 * 70.190.164.6 * (-9)
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23:08:01 <boily> @metar CYUL
23:08:02 <lambdabot> CYUL 122300Z 26009KT 15SM FEW040 BKN240 28/20 A2991 RMK CU1CI6 CU TR CU E SLP127 DENSITY ALT 1600FT
23:08:28 <boily> ha ha ha, you won't get me you obnoxious CU! fphptptptptptp :P
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